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Warcry31 In reply to ??? [2012-01-07 00:04:23 +0000 UTC]

Really? My goodness I'm honoured! Heh yeah I'm inclined to agree. He looks like a ponified lemon meringue pie...
Oh dear I'm afraid to tell you but if you're already confused it just gets more convoluted from there. Still though it's quite rare to find someone who isn't confused by the chaotic netword of perplexity that is Homestuck, so welcome to the club!

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-07 00:20:13 +0000 UTC]

It's just...so many colours clashing. D:
Oh. WELL, AINT THAT GRAND.
Thanks to THIS (and a few others), I can't get Homestuck out of my head...so I'll probably be reading even if my brain turns to mush.
At least I'll have an excuse to draw fanart.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-07 03:18:20 +0000 UTC]

So many rules of colour theory are being broken here. All of the rules, in fact. All of them. :::; )
That's the best thing about it!
I'm not sure whether to thank you or apologise for that. Heh well if you ever get too confused feel free to ask. I've been told that I'm rather good at making sense of convoluted shenanigans. Actually many veteran readers are pretty good for that. Then again, some people enjoy having a mush brain...
Hehehe indeed. Anything can be an excuse to draw fanart!

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-07 17:22:04 +0000 UTC]

I wonder, if he even needs 3D glasses at the movies?
Ok, don't think I won't take advantage of you.
Is the spy/hitman chapter relevant? The one with Spades Slick and all that? 'Cause it sorta came out of nowhere and I don't even know what's going on.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-07 21:31:18 +0000 UTC]

He's usually too busy at his computer to go see 3D movies, but when he does he get's two pairs.

No worries. I'm here to help!

The Midnight Crew section does definitely have some relevance. A lot of people skipped it but it gives you a good bit of information about the relationship between Jack and Snowman. The convoluted time shenanigans and the felt themselves aren't really important, but Snowman and their leader are. It's worth a read to get those parts, but if the action doesn't make much sense to you it won't damage your understanding.

Oh the other bonus about it is that it gives you a first peek at a troll (though if you've been looking at fanart you've probably already seen them...In fact I usually recommend that new readers avoid the fanart until they're up to speed, since there are so many spoilers).

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-08 01:17:26 +0000 UTC]

...Sounds like my brother.


I sorta imagine it's a tad like Sherlock Holmes and Irene Adler? Enemies, but still don't want to finish each other off?
I already saw that one, where someone looks at Karkat trough a screen? Well, I think it was him.
I shoulda taken that advice...when I saw Homestuck everywhere, I searched it on dA...now I know pretty much everyone who dies. And comes back to life.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-08 02:09:14 +0000 UTC]

Hehehe. Sounds like a lot of people I know.

It does have some similarities to that but not quite. They genuinely hate each other, but their hate is so strong and passionate that it becomes romance. There's actually a term for it in Homestuck that will be revealed later on into act 5.
Yeah that would be the one. Some people who got into Homestuck because of the trolls find it to be a refreshing teaser, especially considering how much of the story they have to read through just to get that glimpse.
Unfortunately the Homestuck fandom is one of the worst for spoilers. Heck even some of my gallery is spoilerish if you're far enough. Though there are a lot of red herrings out there so you might still be surprised. It really depends on which things you choose to believe from the fanarts. Also NEVER touch the MSPA wiki until you're fully up to date. It's even worse than the fanstuff.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-08 02:18:24 +0000 UTC]

...Hatemance? I don't know
Wait, Jade also talked to someone once, right? Again, I think it was Karkat, and I think Dave talked to..Tavros?
...Yeah...
Bit too late for that. I already went there, saw all their outfits, from which I could guess what happened.
I saw this one sentence by accident "..and Karkat witnessed the last moment Sollux-" I stopped reading there.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-08 04:57:49 +0000 UTC]

Yeah pretty much. The term is kismesissitude. Troll romance is represented through the card symbols, so where love is represented by hearts, hate is represented with spades. There are also ones for diamonds and spades but that's less romantic and more mediation. In case you were ever wondering why those symbols were showing up everywhere, that's why.
Yes Karkat was the first one you would have seen (grey text, all caps). Tavros (brown text, inverted caps and lots of hesitations) is another one of the early introductions. You should get a few more glimpses before everyone is introduced properly in Act 5.
Oh dear. Well that only gives you some idea. Methods and whatnot tend to be a bit more complex, so at least the surprises won't be completely ruined. Good idea to not read any more of that. Let's just say Sollux is a special case, so you may still not expect what's to come. ; )

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-08 13:58:15 +0000 UTC]

Good luck with remembering that, me.
So that's what all the squares and stuff was about? I did wonder about that.
Oh, is it bad if I ask what the Bucket thing is about? If it spoils something major, I don't want to know.
Right. ..Tavros sorta sucks at trolling, doesn't he?
It's almost ridiculous how much the outfits give away. 'dead' 'crippled' 'ghost' and stuff.
I'll make sure to stay away form the wiki from here on.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-09 00:21:24 +0000 UTC]

It's pretty easy to get the hang of after a while. Like I said you'll get the in depth explanations later, but this should give you the general idea:
Hearts = Matesprit = Love
Spades = Kismesis = Hate-love
Diamonds = Moirails = Supportive Friend / Pacifier
Clubs = Auspistice = Relationship Mediator

The bucket thing isn't much of a spoiler, but if you want to wait for the troll relationship segment (which comes after about 10 troll introductions) then skip this next paragraph.
Essentially, in troll reproduction, rather than one impregnating the other directly, both trolls (well not exactly but that's not important right now) fill a pail with their genetic material, which is then supplied to a creature that produces the offspring from that. It's sort of the human equivalent of genitals, which is why trolls consider them indecent (seeing a kid with a pail out in the open is pretty much like if they were walking around without pants). It's particularly awkward when you remember that the characters are about 13 years old, though the fandom tends to exaggerate it for comedic purposes.

Yes. Yes he does.

Yeah they really don't help. Though you never know, some might be misleading.

Good call.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-10 19:00:14 +0000 UTC]

Whoa.
I got to the point where Karkat sorta explains, and then so does whoever that brown-haired dude is, I'm guessing it´s the maker of Homestuck? I'm on Act 5 part 2, by the way.
So, if someone stops being a Moirail (Feferi, I'm looking at you) do you just become acquaintances, or are you just neutral, kind of no-emotion towards your ex?
(Sorry I bother you so much. I swear I'm almost done. Maybe.)
Well, that bucket business sounds...like nothing I want to know the details of. I wonder if he chose it because BUCKet sounds a lot like a certain word...?

Also, goddamn, Vriska is horrible.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-11 19:01:05 +0000 UTC]

By the way I'm terribly sorry about the giant mass of text I'm about to hit you with. It's a terrible habit of mine...

Alright you appear to have passed the point in time where Homestuck exploded; the dawn of the shipping era. Be warned, soon you will be approaching the "shit-flipping" era. Act 5 Act 2 (which is quite massive by the way, but given your statements I'm assuming that you're near the earlier part) is quite intense. Have fun!

Yeah the brown haired dude is indeed the infamous Andrew Hussie (Aka the Huss of Lips. Do an image search if you don't understand). He pops in every once in a while. Shenanigans almost always ensue.

Breaking off a moirallegiance pretty much works the same way as breaking up with someone is any other sense, with all those awkward feelings left over. Since her job as a moirail was to keep Eridan pacified and stable, breaking it off with him was essentially her saying "I'm not putting up with your crap anymore. Sort out your own issues." You can still be friends and all that, but she isn't responsible for keeping him in line.

By the way I checked it and as it is the Troll relationships page of the wiki is more or less spoiler-safe, provided you don't go further down than the "Friends" subsection and you DON'T CLICK ANY OF THE LINKS (also don't read any of the examples but you will have seen the grand majority of them by now and most of the others are either vague or aren't really surprises). If you think you can manage that (or wait for Act 6), then it can be really helpful in explaining the quadrants: [link]
(Don't worry about it; I quite like responding to such queries. I find that there's something gratifying about sharing information. Now if only I didn't make such big walls of text to supply them...)

Yeah pretty much. Inter-species cultural and biological disparities can certainly lead to some...awkward situations. (Oh just wait until you reach some of the more recent updates. Shenanigans abound...) As for the phonetic implication, it is quite possible (the comparison has certainly been made), though it's worth noting that while the word "bucket" is used more in common discussion among the fandom, trolls usually refer to it as a "pail".

On that topic however I will say that as a general rule I tend to avoid speculating on how Andrew comes to make his decisions. If ever you begin to look at the fandom more actively (Hussie's tumblr and the speculation threads in the MSPA forums being excellent examples), you'll find that Hussie is quite an evil genius. He is able to conduct his story so well and keeping some elements so vague that the fandom goes crazy and at times trolls itself.

Which leads me to the next point: for your own good do not bring up any opinions on Vriska ANYWHERE in the fandom. It is probably the most heavily dividing topic of Homestuck. In fact you may want to wait a while before saying anything on the matter. You'll know when you get there.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-12 16:50:17 +0000 UTC]

That IS a giant wall of text. I really appreciate this wall, though.
Also, I wonder if you talk a bit like Rose on purpose...?

Shipping era? If by which you mean suddenly everyone is in love with everyone, then yes. Yes I am. Tavros and Vriska?! Do not want!

Did an image search...still don't get it. Is it because of that super dramatic Peter Pan-esque revival scene? That one made me laugh.

Ironically enough, before I actually read Homestuck, I thought Eridan was a real nice dude. So I was kind of pissed at Feferi, but now...
Well, she got hers.

That sounds like treading on enemy territory. One wrong step and you're doomed. I think I'll wait for Act 6, I'll know they're in Spades/Hearts when they start kissing. Which happens a lot.
I heard there'll only be seven Acts... not praying for more or anything, not at all....

Then I have no idea why buckets are made to be perverse. Andrew Hussie sure has some imagination.I keep hearing about his Tumblr, and I feel obligated to check it out. I swear, he's the Master of Trolls. In fact, that's what I'll call him from here on.

I think you just may have saved my ass there. I'd be trampled dead by enraged fans if I'd commented about Vriska ANYWHERE.
So, she's this person you hate at first but then find out she just has a sad past, so you sorta just feel bad for her? (I'm guessing so, since I've passed her conversation with John, about killing.) Damn, I liked her all evil and crazy. Made everything way more fun.
Well, I guess Gamzee has the crazy covered now O_O.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-12 21:36:54 +0000 UTC]

Ah good I'm glad that I didn't deter you too much.
Hm I think that is the first time I've been compared to Rose, though I usppose it would be accurate. Normally I'm compared far more to Kanaya or Doc Scratch (and in reality I do fit the both of them disturbingly well). Granted I'm keeping my bizarre speech mannerisms to a minimum in this conversation, however. I shall take it as a complement. Thank you.

Yes, though the eras I mentioned refer more to the fandom itself. When the quadrants were revealed everyone started making Homestuck pairings like there was no tomorrow. Based of your other comments you're now in the shit-flipping era where everyone was going crazy over all the sudden deaths and people going crazy. Well I think by now you've already seen what happened to the spiderbull ship...

Ah I should have clarified I meant looking up "Andrew Hussie". "Huss of lips" strangely enough doesn't return nearly as many indications. Basically, it's because he is in possession of the most insanely magnificent lips in existance. [link]

Hehehe well so much for that preconception. I was always mad at him because he shared so many of my interests, but then he turned out to be a tool with no self-respect. He does get a far worse reputation than he probably deserves, however. Do you mean to say by that second message that you still think Feferi was in the wrong? I'm not disagreeing with you myself, but just to alert you it's an unpopular opinion (not nearly as dangerous as the Vriska one but in any case).

Yes fair enough. I commend you on your ability to resist such temptations from the wiki of knowledge.
Yes, and supposedly act 6 and 7 will be progressively shorter. Going by Hussie's record with expected lengths that may not be the case, but it would be difficult to recreate the massive scope of act 5. I agree having this tale go on indefinitely probably would not be a great idea, though I fret to see what will happen to the hoards of fans who have conglomerated on this webcomic when it does end.

Simply put, aliens have different reproductive methods, for which the use of a pail is needed. When another race is observed using pails without the reserve attributed to reproduction, it seems perverse, just as it would to us if the trolls were seen putting up pictures of semi-anthropomorphic horses impaling people with giant erections as if it were a completely common practice. I wouldn't say it's the strangest cultural disparity, but it is silly.
Ah but he never actually trolls us. That's the beauty of it, he makes the fans troll themselves. He just keeps some matters so vague that people fight over the answer, when in fact the answer doesn't actually matter (see: the "Just" debate). You certainly wouldn't be the first to call him that (in fact he did write a response on that very topic, I think as one of the first posts on his tumblr).

You're welcome. It's certainly not a risk worth taking.
Yes that's pretty much it. Yes she killed legions of trolls in the past, but it was to feed her mother. Yes she tormented a weak-willed boy, but it was her way of trying to toughen him up. Yes she caused the creation of Bec Noir, but it was because from her perspective it already happened, so she just wanted to participate in his creation and destruction as a means to prove herself. All her actions follow a sort of misguided logic, but they aren't done out of simply being a "huge bitch". Therein lies the paradox.
But yes admittedly a lot of people really did prefer her old self in the interest of fun. There weren't so many feelings and emotions attached.
Yes indeed. It's a shame you weren't there when that was first revealed. In fact you still have people who flip out whenever they hear a honk. Nobody expected the evil clown.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-13 14:18:39 +0000 UTC]

Doc Scratch? Really? You must be an excellent host. I have to say I don't see the resemblance..

I'm kind of paranoid now, I keep expecting everyone to die and/or go nuts. I just know that if someone dies for good, it'll be one of my favorites.
Tavros and Gamzee; I shipped it before it was cool. *hipsterglasses* Not really, but I did before I knew it was pretty canon.
But Vriska and John? Not sure. I have to say I lost it when Vriska sent her last messages to John. Why is Homestuck so sad!?

Oh WOW. Those are magnificent! Why did he not draw them on his Homestuck self? It would have looked..
incredibly stupid. But still!

I sort of want him to be good. If he wasn't hung up about the blood-colour thingy, I may actually like him.
I'm not sure about Feferi. I mean, yeah, he's a total douche and probably a handful to be a Moirail with, and Feferi seems to nice for all that. But he still just comes off as lonely (and pretty desperate) to me, and I do think she was kinda hard on him? I don't know really.

Goddamnit, why, WHY must I always join the fandom when it's too late?! "Oh, I just found something awesome to be obsessed with, I hope this will be a fun thing to follow- ah shit, it's already over." Living in the middle of nowhere is horrid to fandoms.


Oh wow, you just put the strangest image in my head. Thanks for that, now I can only picture giant horse dongs.
A troll that trolls without even actually trolling? he trolls by NOT trolling? MY HEAD.
He's Genius.

I still think she shouldn't have crippled Tavros. And (if I understand it correctly, it was hinted, anyway) using Sollux to kill Aradia? That's dark. But in those last moments of hers, and the conversations with John, she seemed kind of ...nice?
And now she's dead. At least until she comes back to life, like people seem to do a lot.
That was genuinely scary. And mildly disturbing, what with the severed heads and whatnot...
Now, unfortunately, whenever I look at my brother who's a capricorn, I can only picture a deranged clown.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-15 08:40:56 +0000 UTC]

Goodness these conversational receptacles do seem to be increasing in magnitude!

Ah, but that is because I have made a point to communicate with you in a very particular manner. In fact it's probably for the best that you haven't been communicating with that facet of my personality. It can be a tad unnerving for some. And yes as a matter of fact I do consider myself to be an excellent host. But in any case that's enough about me.

No one is safe, not even now. And you never know just how death is going to function for them either. It's all rather silly, but also wonderful.
Nice. In fact that is one of the amusing cases where a ship was made canon because of the fandom. Hussie is aware of what goes on in there. That's why you'll find references to Fedorafreak becoming the Gent of Piss and "Pantskat aka bearer of the righteous leggings". Those were spawned by the readers. And on behalf of them I'd like to say that I'm so sorry.
These ships are as unstable as sailing a large ball of Francium balances on top of a ten squared centimeter piece of plywood, and the results are significantly less predictable. But yes, Homestuck does get quite sad at times. Tragic even. A story like that is hardly going to last so long without making it's readers experience a full gamma of emotions. Hussie simply does not do it halfway.

They are. My theory is that he did not display them for fear that it would cause a widespread frenzy across lesser beings incapable of handling such beauty. He had to censor himself for the good of us all. Not to mention no one would pay attention to the comic with those there to distracting them.

I'm not sure how far you are exactly, but I think at this point it's rather clear that he won't be changing his ways anytime soon. But you never know...it's not impossible.
Personally I think Feferi was well-intentioned, but their relationship was doomed from the start. Eridan couldn't respect Feferi as a moirail because he wanted her as a matesprit and Feferi was too preoccupied with other matters, too lighthearted, and too hooked up on Eridan's obsession with the hemospectrum to actually be a supportive or address any of his real emotional problems, sort of like someone who tells a dog whining about it's broken leg to stop crying. It doesn't actually solve the problem. She saw it as a duty and he saw it as someone who cared about him. Quite honestly I can't say that I was a huge fan of either.

Admittedly you are rather late to the Rainbow Rumpus party, but there's still a good ways to go! In fact if you catch up soon you'll probably adjust perfectly with the rest of us. I shan't spoil anything, but you could say we've reached a sort of new beginning. Also in some senses it's not too bad. As great as the fandom can be there certainly is a lot of drama, not all of it worthwhile. Trust me those painstaking periods when there weren't daily updates right after major developments could get a little unnerving for some.

Well you did see Equius' hive didn't you? What did you think all those blurred out bits were?
And that's what I like to call masterful manipulation. It is quite beautiful, I must say.

I agree with you. Granted she did those things at least in part because she was being manipulated by Doc Scratch (for someone who can control minds, she is very vulnerable herself). And yes she did in fact mind control Sollux to kill his "girlfriend". That was true. As for the later bits, you could say that she was finally maturing. She was definitely in need of personal development. As for her death (now that I know you've read it), the idea that it was considered "just" and as such permanent was THE dividing line in the Vriska debate. Most people assumed that the clock was meant to show that Vriska's death was just, but in a Formspring answer Hussie stated that the clock did not necessarily have a baring on god-tier deaths, so it could have been anything, which Vriska lovers used as proof to claim that her death was not just. Hussie never actually said if her death was just or not, only that it was open to interpretation. And that's how Hussie split the fandom like troll Moses.

Oh boy Gamzee. What fun, what fun. He scared the crap out of me too at the time, though don't worry more things will happen. Also you may soon have a new favourite thing to do to your brother quite soon hehehe (my only hint will be this: pap).

These walls just keep getting bigger, don't they...

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-16 16:04:25 +0000 UTC]

I know, sorry, my thirst for information has been pretty much quenched, so you'll be released soon. I tend to get kinda chatty..

If you talked to me anything like Doc, I'd probably have gotten someone else to decipher it for me.

Well, spoilers already told me my favorites die/are dead, so at least for now I'm in depression.
Hussie has risen to a new level of respect, if he actually listens to fandoms.

And he'd look kinda like a tranny, since lips usually only exist on women in his world.

Yeah, I don't exactly care for those two. They just seem kinda unimportant? Unless of course some huge plot twist comes along, which I don't find unlikely at all...

I still think I'd have liked to be a part of the shocked group, ranting about Gamzee and whatnot. Now it's all old news.

Blurred bits? What blurred bits?

Her death was definitely fitting, being stabbed in the back by a former friend. But for John to find out, that's gonna be hard on my tear ducts.

My favorite scene thus far; Shoooosh pap. It was just magnificent. My brother will hit me if I do that though.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-17 18:35:57 +0000 UTC]

Really, there's no need to apologize! Regardless of how chatty you may be I can assure you that I'm probably worse.

Oh dear. Good that I chose to employ my more familiar dialect then.

Well don't be too quick. There was a time when I mourned over Kanaya, but look at her now; she's positively glowing with health! (I'm sorry that was terrible. Puns are my other bad habit.)
Hm I'm not too sure about a tranny, but he does certainly look like a...hussie. (Two for two. Pardon me while I go asphyxiate myself.)

In the interest of avoiding spoilers I shan't comment on anyfin (I have a problem). I will say though that Eridan has gained quite a reputation as a joke character though. Poor cod can't catch a break.

My condolences. It was a pretty fun, albeit terrifying, experience. Though you still have plenty of time to catch up with the story. It won't be going anywhere for a while still.

[link] See those paintings in the back? Those blurred bits.

There is a sting of poetry in such an end. Ah as for John...well I'll refrain from comment.

It was probably one of the most glorious moments of wtf we've had to date (I put it right up there with the Kanpire nut shot). Though at this point I think we now will forever be unable to take a single SHOWDOWN COMBO page seriously ever again. They always end in shenanigans.
Hm that's not very good. Perhaps you need more powerful shooshes.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-18 20:32:27 +0000 UTC]

Double chattiness? That'll end in a disaster. A long one.

That first pun was...yeah. Second one made me laugh, though. Puns are an addictive thing.
Ok, I won't give up just yet. Waiting is going to kill me.

Yet another pun?
Eridan is almost impossible to take seriously, what with the constant flirting and hipster look.

I hope. If it ended sometime soon, I'd probably see the spoilers before I could even take cover.

Oh. OH! Holy hell, how did I not notice these?! Oh my...Equius just became 20% stranger.

I kind of feel for John, all this discreetness is trying. Not that I'm imploring you to do otherwise, in fact, thanks for keeping me from the danger of my curiosity.

I won't mind those shenanigans at all. It's kind of thrilling not knowing what to expect, like shoosh-pap. Maybe next time, everything will be all light-hearted and then BAM! Some drama-bomb drops down.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-19 21:24:14 +0000 UTC]

It is the longest train wreck. Miles of thought train will collide and fly off the rails while they release their cargo of words. People would congregate in masses to witness the devastation, and subsequently talk about it to no end.

"Puns are the most tasteful of insults." That's my quote for them(it was from a dream...don't ask). But yes I'll try to avoid those for the duration of this response. You are certainly not deserving of such punishment...Damn.
Good. As for waiting...well I'm afraid it's just part of the game. Patience will save your sanity.

Of course.
Indeed, though March Eridan certainly didn't help his case (if you've seen pictures of March Eridan and remain confused, it started with this image in the Homestuck calendar: [link] ). On a side note, hipsters...*shakes fist at hipsters*.

You certainly would. Though according to word of God, act 6 could very well end up becoming the size of act 5, so you're probably safe. That said, the faster you can get past Cascade (when you get to that page, make sure you have some free time. Also it very well raise a bunch of questions for you, and if so don't worry I can help) and make it to act 6 the better. Who knows you might find something interesting in the newer developments... ; )

Really? They were brought up rather often...But yes Equius certainly has cultivated an...interesting collection of fine art.

Yes poor John, but you shouldn't pity him too much just yet. Ah dear it really is a challenge walking on all these eggshells to not spoil anything. I can only hope that the proverbial omelet that is being made with their contents will be good enough to be worth the effort! Fear not I shall maintain my precarious position atop these embryo receptacles as best I can.

It's very hard to not be okay with such shenanigans. After all they are so wonderful. Hehehe your last comment is quite unintentionally hilarious, albeit in the wrong order...I won't say anything but you'll see soon enough.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-21 23:23:01 +0000 UTC]

Hah! Do tell, are you a poet? If not, you sure have the potential.

A dream? What dream? (yes, tell me to not ask and I definitely will.)
Why would puns be a punishment? A well-made pun is like a tasty nut in a truffle, makes the whole thing tastier.
I'm kind of stuck at being the parents/grandparents/other kids now. Somehow I can't muster the patience to keep reading it.

No, I certainly had NOT seen that! Poor Eridan, he just can't catch a break,can he?

God meaning Hussie? I honestly hope both last arcs will be longer than the China wall, anything to delay the end.
Cascade, that sounds heavy. I have to make sure to stay away from anything fan-made with that word in it.
You do realize I take your offers of help very seriously? I'll be bombarding you with countless questions of pondering. I really appreciate it, though, make no mistake.

I must have somehow missed the giant horse dick fandom. Such interesting conversations those must have wrought.

I now have about seven scenarios that I somehow conjured from your hints. All of them probably dead wrong.

Wait, what? I somehow said something canon? Make that 20 scenarios. It's a bit strange and very perturbing how easy it is to braid horrid events into the lives of thirteen-year-olds.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-23 08:59:07 +0000 UTC]

Before you read this message I feel obligated to inform you that I was slightly more tired than usual at the time of writing. As such you may find that I gradually delve into my slightly more heavy handed and verbose method of parlance near the later parts of this correspondence. My apologies in advance.

Hehehe. Thanks, but sadly no, I am simply well versed in the field of over-elaborate metaphors. It does help me play a good Karkat however.

It's a rather long story, but essentially I had offended the king by making puns about him or something and then at the trial that was said. I avoided the death penalty but did have to fight zombies in a sort of Rancor pit. Dream me is a badass though so he made it out just fine.
They are a punishment for the same reason pundits punctually use them for their punch lines, because they're puny. No puns are more like those pungent cream filled truffles that nobody likes and when you take a bite first you taste the chocolate exterior and it's fine but then you get a mouthful of the nasty goop inside and the whole thing becomes awful and you feel ashamed for hearing it. Each one is a puncture wound to the soul of comedy.
Ah yes the alpha session. Well I'm sorry to hear that, though I can certainly tell you that there is something you may find interesting if you reach the latest (S) page (Sleepwalk). As for what, spoilers, though you could theoretically find the one chat between Nepeta and Jaspersprite to give you a pretty big hint. How you choose to address the situation now is up to you.

Oh dear I'm sorry to be the one to initiate you to that then, though if ever you look around the fanarts you'll know the origin of that abomination. Clearly he cannot. My theory is that Vriska stole all his luck.

Word of God is an expression meaning "the author said so" (I use tropes sometimes in my communication). Hehehe indeed. I think many people will agree with you on that.
: / Your statements are beginning to puzzle me on the matter of your present chronological placement. Given your earlier assertion of having reached the "new kids", I can only assume that you've already encountered Cascade. It can be identified as that one really long (14 minutes 13 seconds to be precise) flash that occurs near the end of act 5. The nearest thing you could find of that scope is the Rex Duodecim Angelus project, which is still in development (an attempt at creating a video for one of the most beloved songs from the album AlterniaBound, set as the battle music when the trolls fought their black king), and that's less than half of Cascade's length.
I am in fact acutely aware of that fact and I assure you that I make the offers just as seriously as you perceive them. I quite enjoy responding to such inquiries and the thought of them being appreciated makes the idea that much more palatable.

Oh yes the cultivations on the matter were quite entertaining. Needless to say many towels were subsequently required.

Oh dear that is quite an extensive list of scenarios. Sadly probably so, as my wording, while accurate, may have insinuated that there was speculation to be had on the matter. The truth is far more uneventful. Though for reference I can say that as of the present moment the last time John's situation has been updated from the current perspective is through a message he has sent to Karkat via less than conventional means. Once you reach the "Karkat: Have Mental Breakdown" video you will be up to date with John and Jade.

Allow me to elucidate on the matter: assuming you have not reached the flash mentioned just now yet, there will be a period during which matters will become quite tense, only to be dramatically interrupted in a manner that is significantly more silly. Needless to say these things will perturb Karkat rather profoundly, which will then lead the video regarding mental breakdowns. I believe that is sufficiently vague to permit you to continue your speculation on a slightly more enlightened track.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-25 18:04:29 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so you roleplay then?

Your dreams sound...fun. Maybe a tad unsettling, but definitely fun. And holy hell, I did not know you were a guy. Maybe it's because I imagined you as a somewhat older version of Rose, but that comes as a surprise to me.
I can't even begin to count all the 'pun' that're in that one sentence.
I quite like cream truffles. In fact, they gooey mess inside them is so repulsive, it actually tastes good to me. Of course, that means even just one too many is going to make you stay away for the rest of the month.
You mean the deal with Nepeta's 'secret' crush? Noooo, they'll be taking my ships away!

Well, he does dress in black and purple simultaneously. That's just bound to bring bad luck.

Oh. Always adding to my English vocabulary on DeviantArt. By the way, I blame any inadequacy of wording on my less-than-good English classes.

Honestly, I don't remember half of the titles, I just click whatever comes next in an eager display of excitement. I took a gigantic risk and youtubed it, and you're right,I have seen it. I can't even imagine how I'd forget something like that. Sorry if I'm not making sense, my memory would put even a goldfish to shame.
Well, I'm very glad I'm not being as much of a bother as I first thought, then.

...I suddenly get why I saw so many horse-kink related pictures of Equius. I thought people were just being perverts.

I also youtubed that one, and I can't remember if I saw that already or not... I laughed, anyway. And it does takes quite some talent to make necrophilia funny.

I think I might just have to re-read some of Act 5 again, since I seem to be forgetting half of it. I may be the youngest person so far to have Alzheimer's.
Oh, and I saw somewhere that Hussie said that Homestuck was "a build-up for something much bigger". Could this be true? (please say it is.)

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-01-30 09:55:34 +0000 UTC]

On occasion yes. It is a hobby I have only very recently adopted, but it seems to have grown on me quite a bit as of late.

Hehehe. Why thank you, yes they are. My goodness really? Granted I can accept that my demeanour is not always indicative of gender, but evidently you have not visited my main profile page then: you may find it difficult to imagine that a female individual could possess such a furry upper-lip (unless they were one of the elusive bearded women, though I assure you that I am not one such individual). I hope that does not come as too much of a shock to you.
That is probably for the best. You see, I have this compunsion that causes me to produce puns with punishing punctuality...Stopping myself right now.
That's a rather interesting reason to enjoy cream truffles but alright. In any case for the purpose of maintaining the metaphor I will avoid from consuming such truffles before I get pun indigestion.
There were actually two things in that conversation that were recently explained. Well I'll let you find out what's going on there soon enough. For now...Spoilers u_u.

Well now I'm not so sure about that. If it's done properly black and purple go together quite nicely. What it requires however is subtlety. Poor use just leads to one looking like a pimp or a sleeze. Eridan quite evidently does not know how to properly utilise his colour palette.

Well that's less something one would learn in English class as it is something one would learn through tvTropes or random internet browsing. Don't worry. Your vocabulary still appears to be quite adequate despite your disadvantage, though it's good that you are still cultivating new terms to add to your repertoire.

Hehehe that's quite alright. For the most part the only ones worth noting are the [S] pages. I assure you your memory is not the worst I have seen. I just hope it doesn't impair your ability to do anything such as follow the story.
Good since you shouldn't be. I always enjoy providing a good little exposition, and adding in a good chat to the matter is just swell! : )

Nope...Well they are ( : P ), but there is indeed a reason for the horse-kink things. On a completely unrelated note, have fun with Bro (the alpha session one aka teen Bro)'s introduction.

Wait really? Goodness your memory really is terrible... Assuming you say the right one I assume you are referring to the split second mention of Tavros' corpse's puckered fish face, in which case yes I agree. It's not too surprising though, considering this is from the same man who indirectly created sadomasopedorobonecrobetiality (that's a thing. Look it up on Youtube. Surprisingly it's SFW).

Hm yes definitely if you're missing chunks like that. Ignoring the fact that that's not really how Alzheimer's works yes this is indeed cause for concern. That or you are simply just being silly. For that matter perhaps for good measure in the future you can simply check the page number you are currently on and provide that in your message so I will be able to assess where you are in the story without having to guess.
As for the "something bigger" issue, I seem to vaguely recall that message though I really couldn't tell you what his true intentions were (because Andrew Hussie has a horrible habit of inconsistency in the veracity and clarity of his statements). I do know that he's said that he'll be doing something new after Homestuck and it will be fundamentally different from it however (in fact I believe I remember him saying that for the most part it would be on a smaller scale). What that is and how different it will be I'm afraid only time will tell...

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-01-31 17:02:23 +0000 UTC]

I never developed the taste for it, myself. Do you do the costume kind or just the internet one?

No, I have to say I slacked on actually looking at your profile (immidiately corrected that, your profile is now viewed). I also took your Troll personality quiz, resulting as Feferi.
...I don't like Feferi.
Hah! I have such trouble believing you aren't somehow involved in writing, poems or otherwise. I'm onto you.
Fair enough, I suppose the puns I've been provided so far will have to last me for the winter.
SPOILERS. Man, I have to start catching up.

I guess a splash of purple on black will be okay if the person pulls it, but he wears a cape. A purple cape. With a purple streak of hair. Eridan needs to take lessons from Kanaya.

I actually did learn my basic English from TV. Thank God for the Simpsons. I'm glad my English isn't too insufficient, I feel like I'm at such disadvantage compared to most.

Useless, maybe, but I enjoy those the most! I can't even count all the times I've re-watched some of them. If you know a person with a greater disadvantage in memory than I, I would be glad to meet him/her. Maybe, for once, would be the one doing the reminding. My lack of it won't discourage me from the story, though, I have sworn an oath to stick by it 'til the end.

I'm started to think there's a subtle reason for everything in Homestuck that I up to now thought was just lewdness or crack.
I did hear about that, something about...molesting. Or maybe people are just being people.

Yes, I kid you not. I am that bad.
I feel for Tavros. Even in death, he's made to be comical and disrespected. Dear God I hope I don't start singing that when I zone out. It would raise some questions.

Act 5 has now promptly been re-read.
And, I just finished Act 6 Intermission 1. Literally, just finished. Just when I was done being happy about Sollux being not-really-dead, he still gets sort of cut out of the big picture. Damn you, Andrew Hussie!
I wonder just how much the supposed future project will differ from this, because honestly I think I'd miss bucket jokes and stair warnings.
If he does eventually start a new project, and you happen upon it (and if it isn't too much trouble), PLEASE alert me so that I can actually get with the fandom before it's over.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-02-05 09:35:55 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough. I primarily stick to the internet one, where I play Kanaya, Doc Scratch, & Karkat (usually. I can play others too) on Trollmegle (Homestuck version of Omegle: a site where you can get into random text conversations with strangers) and more often as of late on Pesterchum (a group of fans on the forums actually made a working version of the Homestuck chat client & a bunch of fans use it, for roleplay or otherwise. Actually it's pretty neat). I did have the intention of trying out the costume variant when I go to Animé North or something (I haven't attended a convention before, but I hear such an activity is quite amusing. I'd probably just play Diamonds Droog or Doc Scratch)...That was a lot of arbitrary information to provide to someone, interested in RP or otherwise...My apologies.

No worries, though thank you for doing so. : ) Hopefully that will serve to maintain clarity on some matters. Ah you did? Thank you once again.
: / well as far as personalities go she's not that bad...
Ah well writing I most certainly do partake in, so you are somewhat correct. I write essays (personal and non), official documentation, unwieldy responses in text conversations, and some fiction. I have admittedly done some poems though not very many. I do quite enjoy them however.
Ah good. I wouldn't want to risk continuing when I have such an unfortunate record of escalation on such matters. I'm warning you now. I'm telling you, dawg...
Indeed you do!

Yes I Have Made It My Personal Goal To Educate Him On How To Properly Attire Himself As He Does Not Seem To Be In Possession Of The Proper Faculties To Make Adequate Fashion Decisions
Such A Travesty A Clear And Present Danger That Poses An Immense Threat To The Future Of Our Race

(I'm assuming you did catch it, but if not to clarify tvTropes is a website, and unless you frequented it or spoke to someone who had, you probably wouldn't hear several of the terms I use.) Yes it's quite good. I've certainly seen far worse, and that's even from people who have it as their maiden tongue!

There's certainly nothing quite like some of those flash pages. Hm I can't say that I know anyone with memory quite like that, though I do know some people who have the worst prioritization. I have one friend who could recount in detail the most mundane and arbitrary things, but can't remember what he did yesterday. I'm certainly encouraged by your determination. An oath even! Oh my.

In some cases there is, but don't get the wrong idea; there's A LOT of lewdness and crack out there as well. It's a strange fandom...
No; let's just say Bro has a few quirks that would make him not too dissimilar to Equius. You'll see soon enough.

Tavros really can't catch a break, it's terrible.
Yes it most certainly would. Still, it's catchy (perhaps even more than the song it's based off of).

Ah excellent. I imagine you might have read more since (it took me way too long to get around to responding to this, sorry).
Yeah...though I'm not making any assumptions about it just yet. Things still need to happen to the trolls as you'll find out soon (the sleepwalk flash, which you'll get to soon I believe). They are things that require answers. Also congratulations on becoming a full-fledged Homestuck fanperson (official admittance is attained when an individual shouts out "Damn you, Andrew Hussie!", so welcome! : P )
Running gags are a thing that have been around with Hussie for the longest time. I doubt that we won't get some when the new thing comes around. And for that matter the Homestuck stuff will certainly continue for a good while after. The fandom is simply too big to disappear overnight. Bucket jokes and stair warnings will live on through them.
I'm sure as long as you keep yourself even slightly aware of the MSPA site and/or fandom, you will hear about it. News will travel very quickly on the topic.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-02-09 22:17:32 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I'd heard about the Trollmegle and the Pesterchum. I can't believe someone just up and made a replica of Pesterchum. What an age we live in. A lot of RolePLaying info is quite alright, it just tells me you enjoy it all the more.

Couldn't continuously talk to a person whose gender I don't even know, right? Although it's still registering in my head.
I suppose not, she's actually quite nice...which is probably why I don't like her in Homestuck, she's too normal. At least I was halfway Nepeta, too.
Just out of dense curiosity, how does one write a personal essay? I don't believe I've heard of that. But I did have something about you right, score for me.


Oh yes, the entire life of future grubs will be ruined if his dastardly fashion style continues to soil the ground he walks on. Such a travesty must be avoided. (Did I just get a whiff of roleplaying there? Nice.)

That is one thing that has baffled me about many people of the US. Their grammar is sometimes borderline horrendous. Possibly I just saw the worst of it, but it never fails to surprise me when the ' is completely irrelevant to some.

That's pretty common for most of the people I know. It's excruciatingly hard to remember what you had for dinner, sometimes.
Well, quitting on Homestuck simply wouldn't do. Wondering how it ended would surely drive me around the bend.

People in general are getting more perverted by the year. Drawing "adult" things isn't as uncommon-and-therefore hushed down as it used to be, and people certainly take advantage of that.
Wait, the puppets? It's the puppets, isn't it. Or the puppet horses, which I honestly find blatantly creepy.

I think I'll memorize the title anyway to sing in front of someone, make him or her feel the urge to google the absurd sexual term...and by result introduce them to Homestuck! Brilliant plan, me.

Oh, don't worry the slightest bit about it, I tend to forget replying myself (as in now).
Yeah, that one did definitely make me think about things, like "holy shit is that Karkat in a Godtier outfit" and "who the hell is this Uranium-something person, dear God I must know".
Well, uh, thank you? That seems like an admittance of the worse kind...
Yeah, times like these I thank the gods I don't believe in there'll always be fanfiction. There's even a comic called Horrorstuck on tumblr, did you know? If Homestuck did suddenly vanish, I'd probably delude myself and do something similar myself (if I could ever work the internet, that is).
Well, fandoms are hard to ignore when they practically take over Deviantart. I'll just have to pounce on every clue I get.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-02-10 07:58:11 +0000 UTC]

Yes it really is quite a wonder that such a thing can and will be done. It's a true testament to technological advancement and human ingenuity & dedication. Hehehe well yes I suppose so...

Hm yes it could certainly be odd. Good that it's clarified now rather than through my need to awkwardly correct you at some point, though it may have been humorous.
Normalcy? Oh dear yes that certainly won't do. Yes unless you had a significant lead with her there's little to be concerned about.
When I say a personal essay I essentially mean a regular essay or just plain long text written for personal reasons. For example if I were to write an essay regarding my personal opinion on some random topic simply because I felt like writing about it. Sort of like a formatted rant, if you will.
Indeed you did. Congratulations.

Absolutely (And yes I believe you did hehehe.)

I suppose it really depends on where you look, though there is certainly a steady rise in the prevalence of less than stellar grammar as of late. In some cases it's purely for convenience (shortening words to save on letters, mostly caused due to texting habits), but there does seem to be a general ignorance/apathy for proper language formatting in the younger population. Summary: dang kids!

That's not too surprising. We do have a lot to store in there after all, and things like that are rarely essential to remember. I for one just make a habit of writing things down instead. In fact I keep a daily journal just for the purpose of keeping track of things in case I need to verify for future reference.
Indeed. It is awfully hard to interrupt a good story, particularly one with as many loose ends as this.

Ah yes that's very true. I could go into a long rant on the topic of how society has been trending through the past century away from sexual taboos, and how this is mostly in correlation with population and development trends in this time, along with the added catalyst that is internet anonymity, but I'll stop myself there because I could easily write a very large essay on the topic (a personal essay, as it were).
Oh the puppets are certainly still a thing, though that's not quite it. Equines is what I'm referring to here. A very particular sub-genre of human-animal representation, actually.

That is without a doubt a wonderful plan. How very devious of you hehehe.

Ah good then. And no worries. Our correspondance shall simply have to be a bit more long term then hehehe.
So many questions to be asked...Well as for UU, well lets just say a very slight hint in the most recent updates has helped to narrow things down quite a bit. Nothing too revealing, but many theories have been quashed.
Oh don't worry. All it means is that you're involved enough in the story to feel a dramatic emotional response is necessary when Hussie tugs at your heartstrings or plays with your mind. You've simply been brainwashed like the rest of us! : D ...Okay maybe that wasn't the best explanation...
Ah yes, fanfiction. I must say I find it rather amazing how effectively enthralling they can be. Hehehe yes I'm quite aware of it (I do follow Guttyworks here, after all), among the many other great works out there. In fact I keep a rather impressive collection of various fics in my bookmarks for whenever I have free time. Hehehe well if ever that happened I would certainly read it. I'd need my fix, after all!
Oh yeah. Hehehe welp. Though believe me this isn't even a fraction as bad as tindeck. It is literally impossible to find a page there without coming across at least one Homestuck song or recording. Best of luck finding them! If I may make a suggestion, Hussie's tumblr is probably your best bet there.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-02-13 15:47:44 +0000 UTC]

Soon people will have made a video game similar to Sburb, with imps and sylladexes and strifing. I would spend all of my money on that, all of it.

Maybe I should simply refer to you as 'it'. (;
Phew, a huge weight has been lifted off my chest, now that I know I'm not all a bubbly mermaid.
I suppose that would be a nice way to vent, especially if you have a thing for writing, but I can't imagine ever doing it myself. Just the word essay brings the dread of due dates and homework to my stomach.

It might just be the websites I visit, I'm sure there are people perfectly capable of good, adequate grammar that I've yet to bump into. Or my standards may just be too high, seeing as how I'm a bit of a grammar Nazi.

I somehow can't help but think you would either be very easy to interrogate in case of being a suspect, or very annoying for the same purpose, if you write things down. Just...a fleeting thought.
I can just imagine seeing Homestuck fanart in maybe two years, after I'd quit, and suddenly there are whole other characters and nothing makes sense anymore.

I can tell you're very well read in those matters, as well as others I bet. Getting the feeling of inferiority here.
Ah. Not sure whether my less-than-observant mind just skipped these parts like with Equius, or whether I just didn't think of the strange animalistic things. I must somewhat agree with his love for Rainbow Dash, though.

Isn't it? Soon I might actually have someone to share puns with. It's hard to contain the "I warned you about stairs, bro!" when the opportunity presents itself.

Was there a recent update just now, or did my computer glitch? I could have sworn that page 6465 was the end of the road for now, at least I didn't see an arrow to proceed to the next one. Or was that just technology making fun of me again?
Considering how much tugging Hussie does, I think I'll live to condemn him many times in the future. I doubt he'll ever run out of ways to make us rage.
The gallant team of fiction writers, how I praise them. I even found two new websites just recently to occupy my time. Maybe not the best way to spend out-of-school hours as has been pointed out to me, but I do not give a fuck, pardon my language.
Tindeck? What is that and why have I not heard of it?
I would follow a lot of people's tumblr, but I can't be arsed to become a member. I already have more accounts on various sites than I know what to do with.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-02-19 09:27:54 +0000 UTC]

Admittedly I have pondered the mechanics of such a game previously. It would be complex, but depending on how far people were willing to go with it, it would be doable. We'd probably have to wait a good while before a world altering version like the one we have now is created though ( : P ). A fixed storyline would be much easier though (perhaps a jrpg style story focusing on the actual Homestuck plot). If any of these games were made the revenue from it would be so ridiculous...

: / But...I'm a male...
Ah yes you'll find that not being under the pressure of the deep ocean waters is significantly more comfortable.
Personal essays are more akin to writing a letter to someone or just ranting about a topic, so it is significantly less awkward, but I can certainly understand why some would have an aversion to it.

It's quite true there is a noticeable lack of grammatical appreciation these days but they are certainly around. Oh don't worry, base standards for acceptable grammar are quite low these days in any case compared to what they could be, so in most cases grammar Nazi's are actually being quite lenient.

The trick there is that I am careful about what I write down. I may make notes of my activities but there are certainly tactical omissions. Not to say that I ever plan to be in a position of interrogation, of course. Hehehe.
Well if anyone quit after reading during the first year that is exactly what would have happened to them now so it really wouldn't be surprising.

Well read may be the wrong term there, since I've actually read very little on the topic. I will agree that I'm quite knowledgeable about it (or at least I like to think that I am), as I'm sure others are as well. No need to feel any inferiority though, it's just a single field of study, after all.
They're relatively easy to miss if you aren't paying full attention. They never really come into play as a primary factor in any case. Ah yes everyone seems to love Rainbow Dash...

Indeed. They are addictive after all. I should let you know though, it's a dangerous process. You have to go step by step. ; )

I'm a bit late to respond to this, but there were certainly updates since then. Including a flash and a rather big reveal just a moment ago. More road is most certainly being made.
Ah yes indeed. In fact at this very moment people are scuffling a bit. Why? Well let's just say the Scorpio symbol is involved.
Oh goodness. Yes I see quite clearly that the amount of fucks you give is quite minimal (language of course pardoned). They are quite great artists of procrastination measures, these writers. I'll refrain from mentioning any since I'm sure you'll find them quickly enough, but I have no doubt that you'll end up on ArchiveOfOurOwn more than a few times on your journey.
[link] It's a music file site. These days it's pretty filled with Homestuck stuff. There are actually a few really good gems on there.
Ha, I know what you mean. I just keep some of them in my bookmarks and check them every so often instead.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-02-20 20:38:07 +0000 UTC]

I picture it with multiple possible endings and paths, kind of like Oblivion. Depending on what you choose to do, different storylines unfold. Of course that might be a bit too complex for a fan-made game, or even a pro-made one.

I know, I'll try to remember that, but then you'll have to forgive me an occasional slip up.
So, it's kind of like keeping a journal, only it's significantly longer and more professional? At least ranting is all I ever used a journal for.

One good thing is that when the internet is correcting grammar, it's much more assertive than a teacher. If you write something wrong on a public website there are bound to be grammar Naziz that assault you, whilst a teacher only gives you a red mark.

Then...I'd say annoying rather than easy, if I had to pick. Possibly a very good criminal as well.
I'm currently on the mission to get a friend into Homestuck, but she's stopped reading because of the tedious beginning. I hope she sees it around and keeps reading eve if just to see who the hell those grey people are.

Well-read is a thing that works in my language in this context... I suppose not so much in English? Damn. Hardest thing about English is acquiring the sense of when things fit and when not.
Just how many of those little Easter eggs are in Homestuck, I wonder? Seems the pages are packed with them.
Well, I don't love her per se, but liking a cartoon pony speaks volumes about ones character.

If anyone asks what I mean by what I say, I'll simply don a pokerface and act like nothing at all. Most effective method.

I seem to be in the middle of things now, then. Finally I understand how this works. That flash made me utter some very inhuman sound at the sight of Her Imperious Condescension. It also seems the Homestuck team is giving music out just as rapidly as always.
I know what you mean. Was that Mindfang, though, or Vriska? Or they're the same person, it wouldn't surprise me. Time Shenanigans.
It's too late for me...I already made an Archive account. And bookmarked things. And submitted stories.
Oh my. I only clicked the link and spot Homestuck right away. This fandom certainly is stretching over the internet quite a bit.
I keep links in my Notes, well hidden away from wandering eyes.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-02-23 20:30:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah a near proper version would be impossible to recreate, since accommodating for player actions (both in single player with ai for the others or multiplayer) would be incredibly complex, especially when each decision would have a much greater impact (and that isn't even accounting for the role and land randomisation or however you want to manage that to create enough interesting conditions for each play-type). Quite simply the game-changing nature of choices in SBURB would be too heavy to calculate for more than a very small set of choices, unfortunately.

That's fine. I shall in turn strive to not make my gender a detail required for the purpose of this correspondence.
Yes that's more or less exactly it. It doesn't even really have to be longer either. It can quite simply be boiled down to just writing your thoughts about things.

Yes indeed. *Subdues the urge to point out that you misused a z to pluralise Nazis but in the process of mentioning it did so...darn.*

I would say that it depends entirely on what I wanted to divulge. Heh perhaps, though I think I'll put my abilities to better uses than crime.
Ah yes, that big initial roadblock. I wish you the best of luck with convincing them! If you need to give them a little sort of incentive, you could link them to WTF is Homestuck ( [link] )(Actually it's a good read just in general. You might want to give it a look sometime as well). Grey people is certainly a good incentive.

Yes in this context the general sentiment is correct (or at least it is generally used as such in English as well), though that's more me being technical over the fact that strictly speaking well-read should apply when someone has read or studied a good deal on a topic (after which naturally they would be knowledgeable about it), whereas I used other means to acquire my knowledge.
Oh yes indeed. It's easy to miss some but there are so many that you're guaranteed to catch at least a few.
Like then. Well it would at least indicate that you aren't so closed minded that you cannot accept a good character design when you see it, which is certainly a good thing. There is far too much hate bred from willful ignorance that it's a relief to see this many people forgo such petty obstinacy, even if it is just a kids show.

That is certainly a brilliant plan, though personally I quite like the one word summation technique: If they look at you funny, all you need to say is "Homestuck". That way the ones who kind of know about it will accept it and those that are ignorant may be effectively coerced into reading it out of simply wanting to know what you're talking about.

Wonderful! I can finally discard my concern for possible spoilers! Ah yes she certainly does leave an impression. Goodness those eyes. If you're referring to the music in "[S] Prince of Heart: Rise up.", then I'm afraid to pop your dream bubble but that's actually quite an old song (Time On My Side from the album Strife [link] ). Quite soon though the music team could be out of the job with this new fan-made album coming our way. I'm honestly quite exited about that, considering how good Land of Fans and Music was (and that wasn't even directly MSPA sponsored).
Scratched Mindfang seems to be the general opinion. Personally I prefer to avoid speculation, though there does seem to be a lot of evidence to support this. I suppose we'll find out soon enough.
Oh dear. Well in that case I guess your set there. I must say now I'm a bit intrigued.
Tindeck wasn't a particularly large site before the Homestuck takeover, so it was rather easy (especially since so many of the big fanartists put things there, including popular voice headcanons like Von Fawn and Teleharmonic back in the day). MSPA certainly has spread it's wings however. There are irons in very many fires. Perhaps even all of the fires. All of them.
Wandering eyes? My my the implications of such secrecy...

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-02-27 18:59:19 +0000 UTC]

Not even mentioning the time shenanigans and all following complications. If the game ever were to be created, it would take a full-on genius, and even then it might not do the original comic justice.

I fear that if I were to take a leaf from your book (ha, ha) I'd end up throwing it away the week after in a fit of embarrassment. It wouldn't be the first time.

Oh, damn. No, by all means, do tell me these things. I can't stand grammatical errors, much less my own that other people's.

Good call, I'd hate to be the one to inspire the next Moriarty.
I fear I may have lost her for good, but she had asked me to explain the concept further so if I can adorn the summary she might fall victim to it. That blog seems similar in complexity and massiveness to Homestuck itself...I'll have to spend some time navigating it.

So if I were talking to a less precise and literal person (GUY), no comment would be made? Well, at least I'd manage in most English-speaking countries.
I only now found one flash page where rose rides a pony? I wouldn't have come across it if it weren't for Youtube. That thing is guaranteed to spoil things, no matter how careful you are.
The internet is quite the pack of predators when it comes to likes and dislikes. I've always had a soft spot for ponies due to my childhood obsession, but it's nice to see so many people bond over them as well, despite being grown up manly men. But if someone dares to utter a word about enjoying Twilight, he's calling hell upon him.

Making private jokes with myself seems a bit degrading, in my mind. Not saying your method is in any way ineffective, but most people I'm familiar with would simply throw a "whatever" and give it no more thought.
If I had someone with me, however...

Isn't it grand? No more tip-toeing.
I only recently found out about all the miscellaneous albums Homestuck has to offer. Silly as it sounds, I thought the flashes were the limit. I haven't gone through them all yet, so the song seemed new to me.
Are there no qualms about that? Putting the Homestuck name on something fanmade, I mean. I thought there were standard copyright issues against that, but then again, I'm not exactly in my element here. I can't decide whether Hussie would be completely fine with it, or would do something about it.
History doomed to repeat itself? I keep forgetting Jake isn't John's guardian, but Jade's. Well, not guardian, but connected to her through complications.
I do wonder what you mean by intrigued. I daresay I hadn't heard of Archive before Homestuck either, but that's surely just me. Tindeck seems to owe the fans of Homestuck quite a bit, however. I'm not certain whether that's a good thing or not so much.
Can you imagine what would be said if someone found all my links? I am but a teenage girl, there would be much awkward talking if a family member found a collection of short stories with trolls in them.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-03-04 02:35:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah getting such a thing to work would be basically impossible. Maybe some day in the future we'll discover the secret to making such a thing in some ancient ruins, and then we shall reap the rewards as our planet is torn to pieces. It will all be very dramatic.

Oh dear. Well sometimes such things are even meant to be disposable, so you are free to drop them like it's autumn.

Well I'm not usually one to make a fuss with such things. For the most part as long as I understand the message I don't bother. If you really do want me to however I'll mention that it should be "much less my own than other people's" rather than "much less my own that other people's". Still I feel kind of dickish for pointing out such an irrelevant typo.

Yes that...would be unfortunate. No worries, though. I still have ample empathy and little boredom so such a thing is unlikely to occur.
Well in that case I wish you the best of luck in succeeding with that. As for the blog, it really isn't that difficult (even if you aren't familiar with the tumblr format, using the chronological post system provided in the link helps to keep that in order).

If you were speaking to someone (or indeed a guy as the case may be) less picky, saying that they're well-read on a topic would be the equivalent of saying they know a lot about it. That expression is correct, just the connotation is more specific than what is used in common parlance. And yes you most certainly would.
Ah, though for the most part those side things aren't too spoilerish. The trick with those particular flash vids is to look at the bottom right corner of the screen after the video. A button flashes for a moment (you can still notice it if you put your mouse over that area). Clicking will always lead to a silly bonus. For that matter I'm not sure if you're aware, but you should try that with Frigglish's recent flash (hint hint. And fun fact if you check the url for both Rose's and Roxy's bonus vids, you'll notice that it's the same except for an added 2, which you can add or remove to view either one on a whim).
It is indeed a very curious situation. A full analysis there could perhaps clarify things somewhat, but it would take quite a while for a proper explanation (at least if I were to conduct it). In general, it goes like this: The internet likes surprisingly good things, easily referable/editable jokes (aka memes), adorable things, and nostalgia. It does not like things that are highly popular or in tune with popular culture, young adolescents (which for the most part ties in with the first thing), and restrictions of any kind. MLP:FiM has surprisingly high production values, has many easily quotable lines, and caters to the sense of nostalgia for Saturday morning cartoons (& is adorable). Twilight is highly popular with young teenage girls. Using the aforementioned guidelines, it's not too surprising why each is in it's current predicament.

Oh yes I did fail to mention that for the most part it does indeed work significantly better if you're with someone else who is familiar with the material. On your own it certainly is a bit soul-destroying and the whole process would be hit or miss. I'll save the psychological reasoning explanation because I don't think it's really necessary. For the most part though not many people will give Homestuck & its references much heed unless they are already predisposed to curiosity or they are genuinely bombarded with it (in the past that happened a lot with the fanart, though these days art is a much less reliable introduction to the series, as you would probably know).

Indeed. At long last I can get my boots and stomp on all these eggshells.
Oh my really? Well then depending on your tastes you may very well have been missing out! Regardless, it's great that you can still discover such things. Just try and hurry up before the new album comes out (from Hussie's comments and other indications, it will likely be rather large).
For the most part he's quite fine with people making fan things and distributing provided that it's non-profit. He did once make a message addressing people who sold such things for profit, however (in fact since then there's been a good bit of elaboration, including the creation of this FAQ [link] .) Essentially original works using the Homestuck theme are fair game while remixes and hings depicting the characters or more concrete elements of the comic have certain rules. Hussie and Homestuck follows basic practical US copyright law , but is just slightly more lenient about enforcing it. As for the new album, it's organised by Hussie himself so it's rather clear that he's alright with it.
Quite possibly. Then again, both the newly revealed troll kids (not the UUs, mind you) have the blank eyes indicating that they're dead, so I'm not sure what that tells you... Ah yet another thing forgotten momentarily? Perhaps you should take a cue from Jade and put little bands on your fingers to remember things (remember those reminders of hers way back when? I wouldn't blame you if not; that was quite a while back.)
Intrigue is a natural reaction for me when anyone tells me that they've submitted things. I quite enjoy seeing things that people have made. As for the archive, it's not that surprising; unless you actively go around looking for fanfiction without staying in niche locations it would be easy enough to miss (especially since there are others like tumblr and livejournal that have such things). Personally I find AO3 to have a nice comprehensive format and a rather good library, but everyone has their own opinions and preferred locations. I can't say that I know much of Tindeck from before the Homestuck takeover (I didn't follow the fandom nearly as much back then), so I can't really say what it's taken from/given to them, but it has certainly made them quite a hub for fandubs and fanmusic. Let's just call it a gray area and leave it at that.
Goodness me. It's like the stories of the infamous "porn folder". I think in this case though confusion would be the first thing that would reach their minds. Strange alien fanfiction is not something most people come across in their day to day lives (unfortunately).

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-03-12 19:07:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes, I'm certain the secret to making complex video games lies in ancient ruins...this only makes me think of time shenanigans and how the future is simultaneously the past, etc.

>Bam tum Tsssh!<

Ah, that one must have been due to my frantic typing. When I don't have red squiggly lines to tell me my mistakes, I tend to skip over them when I scan my text. There's no need to feel dickish, I'll just feel better about my English if I know what I do wrong.

Maybe that's exactly what a future Moriarty would say to draw suspicion away from himself.
Yeah, the instructions were pretty helpful, I got the hang of it after a little while. Tumblr remains my nemesis, however.

I'll use the phrase with care, then, and if someone hesitates or gives me a look I'll be sure to change the subject so fast his/her head will spin.
I'm started to think they're mostly silly things for fun. Those two Maplehoof-related ones are a prime example. I have to say I felt outstandingly amazed when I found out about the trickster mode. I know it's not a flash per se, but I had no idea of its existence. Once again, I thought it was just a fandom thing.
It's a good thing most people on the internet share pet-peeves and favorites, or I think it would be chaos. No matter what you enjoy, you're never alone with it on the internet.
I'm afraid you may have misunderstood me when I said Twilight (if not, sorry). I wasn't referring to Twilight Sparkle, but the vastly popular (and hated) movies about vampires and werewolves. I can't say I enjoy them either, the acting isn't exactly sublime.

I bullied myself into reading on mostly because I was curious to see what all the hubbub was about, and to see what my Zodiac sign was like. Maybe if I tell my friend her zodiac sign looks cool...
Another friend of mine thought it was Anime (and she hates that), mostly and understandably because of all the fanart. NO amount of it can quite capture what the real story is.

Stomp to your hearts content, nobody likes them anyway.
That will definitely take a while. I used to tell myself I would never like computer-made music...oh, past me, if you only knew.
Hussie seems to work quite well with his fans. A lot of images for the flashes are fan-made, aren't they? I'm going to childishly assume he's a fun guy to know. That FAQ is really friendly, too, even if I'll never need it.
Whatever assumptions I make, I'm sure I'll be completely wrong. I thought UU (uranianUmbra) was Lord English, at first. This is something I've been very curious about; what do you think the relation between Jake and Lord English is? (I definitely remember the colored strings. Funny how selective my memory is.)
I tend to pounce on things as soon as I find out they exist. Happened with reading fanfiction, creating it, and DeviantArt too. Most of the time I regret it. I would surf Livejournal to no end but I cannot, for the very life of me, figure out how to work it! Archive Of Our Own, however, I figured out easily (part of the reason why I didn't delete my account right away).
Unfortunately, there's a lot of prejudice towards new things where I live. A lot of people assume all Japanese cartoons are either about Pokémon or tentacles and school girls in short skirts. The lengths I have to go to divert attention...

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-03-13 00:46:21 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely. It's a little known fact that this is how all complex choice games are made via unearthed ruins. All game designers are actually archaeologists who work towards finding these hidden codes and converting them into interactive entertainment. We simply need to wait for the one great discovery that will launch us into our glorious and/or terrible future.

Frantic? Oh dear I hope there wasn't cause for such dramatic methods. No worries though. It's a perfectly acceptable reason for errors. Thanks, I'm relieved to hear that my feelings are unnecessary. Likewise, I don't think you need concern yourself quite so much with proper use of the English language. You are in fact doing a remarkable job at it. Then again that concern may be the reason for your skill. Either way, you should know that your skills in the language are excellent.

Hm perhaps. Ah well, for now I shall remain the only one aware of my true intentions. Everyone else can wait to find out in good time. Besides, what fun would there be in just telling?
Ah good. And yes to those that it has not already indoctrinated, tumblr does seem rather insidious. Distrusting it may indeed be wise.

Good to know, though I doubt that it will turn up often, and you almost certainly won't be called out for it regardless. I do hope for everyone's sake that cranial rotations remain at a minimum then.
Yes that pretty much sums it up perfectly. Shenanigans may not be important story-wise, but they are the life-blood of MSPA. Though some things did originate from the fandom itself (GamTav as a ship, for example), the grand majority of popular jokes for it originate from the comic itself. How deep you are in the fandom depends heavily on how attentive you are to such hidden details.
Yes indeed. In a sense, it's true of humanity on a whole. It's good to know that even in places of rampant anonymity and near-anarchy a form of social collective can still form.
Oh no I did in fact understand you. I was mentionning FiM and Twilight as separate entities entirely, though they both have reasons for being so popular/controversial. We can certainly agree there. I could provide quite an impressive list as to the things I find wrong or unpleasant about those films. In terms of acting Robert Pattinson's character at least has an excuse (he hates Twilight, which is rather hilarious), but for the most part...Well there isn't much to be said.

Hm that's an interesting reason, but if it worked and you enjoyed it after all, I guess I can't complain. Hm perhaps another tactic would be to compare people to their patron troll (in case it hasn't been mentioned, your patron troll is the troll who has your sign). People tend to get curious about things if they are said to share a resemblance. Just...try to avoid recruiting anyone who's an Aquarius with that method.
Ha! There are all sorts of reasons for which that sort of misconception are funny. Ah perhaps you missed it but there is a history with Andrew Hussie and "the animes" (There was in fact a subtle reference to it all here [link] ). The gist of it is that other people thought that Hussie got much of his inspiration from anime, but he was quite adamant in assuring everyone that he doesn't know the slightest thing about them. There are certainly simillarities which I can understand being misconstrued, but indeed Homestuck is more difficult to define than as "just another anime".

Excellent. I'll go grab my cleats.
I think it is quite nearly a universal constant that all people growing through adolescence will find themselves disappointed with their past selves' taste in music.
Yeah. He does tease quite often and people do get up in arms or overly sensitive sometimes, but for the most pat it's a good relationship. Yes in fact. The art and sound teams both contain a heavy dose of fandom (in fact the Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff movie poster was made by a good while back). I can't say much on his character in person, but yeah he seems like a pretty cool guy.
Hm UU as Lord English. That would have been...interesting *Imagines Lord English with UU's personality*. Don't worry though, having your speculations be defenestrated is a regular occurrence with Homestuck. Asking my opinion is a dangerous thing... Quite honestly I genuinely couldn't tell you much to that effect. I know there are a lot of theories about it, but I haven't really thought about it myself. My first guess would be that there isn't really an connection other than LE subtly placing his influence on some minor things like the Condesce did just for the purpose of further illustrating their control over their universe, but then again many of my initial guesses have been completely off the mark as well. Time will tell...
Hm I see. That explains quite a bit actually...Hm well I hope you haven't found yourself regretting it too much. Enthusiasm like that should be counted as a good thing! Hm admittedly I'm on the same boat as you with respect to Livejournal and AO3. Perhaps it's a good thing you didn't get immersed too quickly; you might just have gotten yourself trapped in a temporal void if that happened.
Ah I see. That is unfortunate. Well perhaps with time such ignorance will be dispersed. It always does eventually. I just hope for your sake that it's quick this time.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-03-18 22:17:18 +0000 UTC]

Everything suddenly makes so much sense. I cannot believe I was so blind up to this point. My eyes have been opened and I see the light; this knowledge must be kept secret or its power will be abused.

Just my own impatience. Even if I type like a slightly advanced monkey, once I've been at it for some time I type more rapidly and much more clumsily.
Thank you! That actually feels quite nice to hear, coming from someone as vastly adequate as yourself. Glad my incredibly bad English classes don't have an effect on me.

If I hear any news of random disappearances or murders unaccounted for, I'll be sure to be on the watch. Or I would if I wasn't squared off on an island.
It's a shame, those who actually know how to work it seem to enjoy it quite a lot.

Saluting some aspect of the fandom is a double-egged sword, though. For an example, a large amount of people like Gamzee/Tavros, and Hussie said let there be PBJ. But then more people might start supporting Jake/Dirk and Hussie would sink their ships so brutally there wouldn't even be wreckage left.
I try to tell that to all those people who say computers are bad, the internet infect kids' minds, etc., but they never listen.
There's a reason it's probably the most hated movie on the internet, if not in the non-artificial world as well. It's just so insanely dull. I have new-gained respect for Robert Pattinson after hearing his view on the movie, at least he's well aware it's bad.

Thank God I don't have any Aquarius friends. I don't know how I'd even begin explaining Eridan to anyone. Equius might be a tough one, too. But yes, people do tend to take interest in anything having to do with themselves, it's the egoistic nature of humankind.
I'd forgotten that one, but I did notice it at the time. (actually, how did you get that page? I can imagine it took a while to find...?) Plus the deal with Bro's incredibly fashionable shades and the feeling surrounding the Striders. In fact, I've heard some phrases in relation to them multiple times. Hmmm.

That's why I avoid certain songs or band like the plague. All sorts of unwanted memories arise.
I probably can't fathom how silly and unrealistic I sound, but that sounds incredibly awesome, having your work featured in Homestuck itself.
That's exactly what I found so scary. Can you imagine, Lord English writing Smut on humans? It's terrifying in a way.
I'd hate to see there being any more sinister relation between the two. If there's one thing I hate more than a favorite character dying, it's it turning evil. (was it right to put 'it' there?)
Oh? What does it explain? So far I've made some good choices, but in between I've made bad ones too. LiveJournal is one thing I don't think I'll ever sink myself into. There isn't a line between a nice fanfictional read and disturbing, kink-related stories.
Maybe I should just stop caring. Easier said than done, probably.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-03-20 17:40:20 +0000 UTC]

Good, the ignorance has been cleansed. You are nearly ready to join our Complacency. I trust you will remain discreet on the matter.

Well, in a sense we all type like slightly advanced monkeys, so there is nothing strange about that. Admittedly I do the same in instant message conversations.
I assure you it is a very much genuine sentiment. And likewise thank you! Heh I have yet to see a good English class. Coming from a French education we only covered the very basics and from there it was just a lot of literature, much of which was Shakespeare. He isn't exactly the best choice for grammar lessons...

Oh don't worry. If things do come to pass they will be discreet. You won't hear of them for a long time...
Hm yes that might hamper your abilities to monitor such activities. I'll be sure to find some way to...acomodate. Once things are revealed, you will certainly know of them.
Indeed. Then again, some people enjoyed using myspace too.

Indeed. The shippers in particular are affected deeply. People who make fanworks as well (like that time Hussie declared all fantrolls canon, then remarked on several rules that effectively broke many of them, like the blood colour limitations; and let's not forget the story-oriented fanfictions).
Indeed. That's been the case of almost all major technological and sociological innovations. Some will always resist change (and to be fair their arguments aren't entirely without merit).
There is a large number of things that are unsettling about it. I think my main gripe is that the books essentially amount to poorly made self-insert fiction full of Mary Sues and self-loathing. Yes in fact I think Pattinson has managed to explain his views on the story better than most.

"An aristocratic hipster fish-person with dreams of world conquest, genocide, and romantically engaging with his best friend." is what I can think up off the top of my head, though it hardly does him justice. I don't think it's a matter of being able to explain Equius as much as it is wanting to explain him. He's...fanatically devout to the social hierarchy, to the point fetishism...Yes it's probably best to leave that one be.
Indeed.
Ah good (I simply used the search option at the top of the site. If you know the general area and a word or so of the page you're looking for, it's really easy to find things). Yes there are a lot of comparisons people are making there. The glasses, bladed weapons, and flash-stepping are to blame for the anime comparisons there. Overall the similarities are far scarcer than most people seem to portray it, though.

I most certainly know what you mean. I can't even listen to some songs on the radio without being overcome with crippling embarrassment.
Not that silly or unrealistic at all. Every once in a while it does happen, and when it does it's pretty great. Also you get all sorts of publicity as a consequence, which is nice.
I just had a mental image of LE sitting over a desk fanatically writing out slash fics. It is rather disconcerting...And now I want to draw that...
Hm yes I think it would come as a huge shock to many people, especially when Jake's made himself out as so likable. Agreed.(Close. Since you're referring to a person you would use "them" so "it's them turning evil.")
Well I won't go into too much detail, but it does explain how you've managed to join the Homestuck community so readily, how this conversation (which in retrospect has grown quite impressively), and a few other miscellaneous details. Primarily it's simply fuel for my psychoanalytical disposition (don't worry, it's nothing too serious). I think in terms of choices that's the case for everyone, though I do hope the former outweigh the latter. Fair enough, though sometimes lacking a line can be the most fun part (mileage varies significantly from person to person with respect to tolerating more deviant variations of smut but there are some undoubtedly skilled writers in such categories).
Sadly there will always be at least some people who feel the need to oppose such things. If it's really too much trouble to make them understand then a position of apathy is certainly a viable option. If you do get the opportunity to make headway with them though it's often well worth the effort.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-03-27 20:54:46 +0000 UTC]

You have my bow- I mean, word.

I actually have a pretty strange typing quirk; I use a single finger, the main one, on my left hand while I use two of them on my right hand, the main and middle. I haven't the faintest clue why I do it, but I probably should try to stop it.
Well, unless you want to play Yorik with the cashier in an English grocery store, I don't think it'll be much use in day-to-day talk, probably less so on writing. Or, people might just think you're a pompous douche.

I guess that's...reassuring?
No need to think of me while slashing innocents, I'd hate to be a bother. I'm sure the standard internet news will suffice.
Oh, that old thing. Is it still around? Even the crickets must have evacuated by now...

A good example is John's latest change of heart. So long, Vriska/John ship (although I doubt the shippers can be stopped by something so trivial).
I didn't know about the fantrolls. It doesn't exactly fit, though, if all of them are canon Alternia probably would have been doomed to end over a hundred times, and likewise would have a hundred 'chosen one' savior trolls.
I think I can safely say my English would be horrid if not for the internet, and several video games as well. Seeing movies rated for ages above me never did me any harm. ...That I know of.
What I find the most mind-boggling is the fact that Bella Swan is supposed to be easy to relate to, for any teenage girl. I can't even begin to point out the flaws in that.

Not to mention that he's been friendzoned more often than any character in (sort of) animated history. I might have really liked Eridan if he just wasn't so desperate. Never mind him dooming trollkind. Equius would be a delight to sum up, although it might drive people away from Homestuck rather than to it. Now I really want to explain everything to a Sagitarius.
There's a search engine? ...GOOD GOD, why didn't I notice all this before?! I've been saving page numbers in my trusty notes!
I think some aspects of the Flashes may have done their part, too, especially in the End of Act 5. I think Anime culture has claimed a lot of things for itself, such as bizarre eye colour that often seems to make people think of it, even if a lot of cartoons use it.

At least I know for certain I'm not alone, so it blunts the embarrassment some.
I can imagine how famous the person would feel. Suddenly; DeviantArt spammed with messages.
Oh, by all means, don't let me hold you back! It would make for an interesting concept. Who says evil green skull monsters aren't shippers?
Which is exactly why I don't find the idea extremely unlikely. (that is the one thing I can never get used to...thanks.)
I now feel a little bit naked, and I hope I haven't said anything to make your analysis negative. Maybe I should watch my tongue. But, yes, I somehow tend to lengthen conversations into oblivion, though I have no idea how that happens.
It does...so far.
There are definitely good stories there, some really make you think, not to mention Fanfiction. net, LiveJournal and AO3 often share stories and writers. I'd just like a bit of a warning before I see little innocent John turn into a dubious-content monster.
I can always call the 'racist' card, that often makes people think twice. I'd consider myself a hero if I managed to erase someone's apprehensiveness on this or that subject.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-04-03 09:15:48 +0000 UTC]

Excellent. Now let me just grab this ring...Wait. No. Wrong fandom.

Hm. Well that's not too strange. For a time I did the same, except I do use my left ring finger every once in a while now. It's funny how many people don't type properly, even in this day and age. Meh, whatever works, I say.
Yeah pretty much. Though if you're one of the VERY few people who can play it right being able to quote good literature or Shkespeare can be a useful asset it the pursuit of looking classy. It's a very fine line before reaching douchedom though...

Yes. That is how you should feel. Good...
Of course. Regardless, I am certain that you will hear of it when the time is right.
Indeed it is. Apparently it's a moderately popular hub for music groups.

Yes indeed. And then we end up with things like this latest End Of Act. The tides fans must sail are quite strange at times...
Yeah, logic is generally something set aside for the most part in such situations. Though there are some justifiable ways to go about it. The humans technically had a bunch of people playing the game aside from the kids (since they had an open beta as opposed to the trolls secret ruins, though that could be worked around easily enough).
Ah technology, spreading knowledge undiscerning of general appropriateness across the globe!
Oh goodness yes. Actually it's even worse in the books, but for various other reasons. It feels like Bella is Stephanie Meyer and she's flogging herself repeatedly every chance she gets. It's kind of unsettling...

Indeed. Each and every one of them can be quite interesting if you take the time to analyze them. But it probably is for the best that they be avoided when dealing with newcomers.
Yep. It can come in handy quite often if you're like me and you like referring to older pages. Notes are still useful too though in case you forget what you're looking for exactly.
It seems that Animé is yet another one of those all-encompassing super-genres people group things they don't quite know how to identify. It certainly makes some things easier for the general populace, but it is tough when you want to break down general prejudices...

Oh yes you definitely aren't. It's one of those unspoken general truths. Everyone's experienced it to some degree.
Yeah provided it's for something you're proud of, it can be pretty great.
Heh, a friend of mine went even further the other day and suggested that LE killed Hussie in retaliation for Vriska. Don't get me started on the implications and roads of logic that went into that...
Yeah I agree, overall that would be a pretty big leap of faith for most. It's not really the sort of thing I would see Hussie pulling. (I'm sure you'll get a hang of it with practice. At least it's not French. Then you'd have some real trouble to deal with there).
Ha, fear not. I don't analyze for the purpose of judgement. Observation is my only goal, and you would provide that regardless of what you say or don't say. Clearly then we share a common ailment...
Good. Let's hope it stays that way then. : )
Actually you do have a good point about warning. Not everything is tagged particularly well. Admittedly I've stumbled into a few such traps.
Hm. The race card is usually best to save unless absolutely necessary. It tends to lead to a great decrease in respectability in the long run. It would certainly be grand of you, as it would anyone! Best of luck on your noble quest!

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-04-07 16:20:47 +0000 UTC]

"I will take the ring from the Black Queen!"

As long as I can type the way I do now, I guess I don't care all that much. Until my hand starts hurting, that is.
That fine line is pretty easily crossed. If someone quoted Shakespeare to me in a normal, mundane chat I'd give them a funny look and relentless teasing. I am a very nice person.

I'm sleeping with one eye open from here on out.
I think I'll start walking around with a sign on my back now, maybe get discriminated for a few years, but eventually I can say 'I TOLD YOU SO' to the entire world. Go, me.
I will lose respect for any musical group that uses it. I just googled it for some reason; "Myspace is the leading social entertainment destination powered by the passion of fans". How ironic.

Hussie sure has a lot of irons in the fire. Homo-erotically interested in his fans, in love with all his characters, and awaiting a reply from Vriska.
Well, I guess Homestuck itself does defy logic. Frequently and in every manner possible, almost. So a few illogical statements form Hussie would be like a drop in the ocean.
I'm almost inclined to read the books now, if only to see the variety of badness. All the things the movie must have been forced to skip.

I suddenly thought of Rose now, the trigger word probably being 'analyze'. I think every single character, kids included, would be a source of material like a compost heap is for flies. Charming metaphor there, too.
This opens up a whole new world to me. I can read and re-read my favorite parts all over again without spending ages looking for them.
Ah, people and their need for labeling things.

It's a vital part of childhood, one of the bad ones.
And if you're not proud of it, well. Suck it, I guess?
It would make as much sense as anything else. Your friend has a great, great mind.
He's wicked, but maybe not that wicked. Everything seems to have reasons and roots, though, I can't wait to find out. (Difference is, in Icelandic we have male, female and neuter words, fx. cat is a male word. Is french worse?)
If you start getting wary because of something I say, which I somehow doubt, I suppose I can always call the Moriarty card on you.
I suppose did dig my own grave when I agreed to being 18 years old...that should teach me, but it won't.
I don't think anyone would take it seriously, anyway. Such a thing has been joked about so much it's made people almost apathetic to racist-calling.
Thank you, good sir (see? I remembered!).

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-04-08 16:37:45 +0000 UTC]

And now in my mind an AU is forming where the plot of the LotR trilogy is actually that of a group playing Sburb. They found the Black King or Queen's ring and now must depart on a journey to throw it into the session's forge...Goodness...

If your hand starts hurting, you're either doing it quite wrong or you've been doing it too long. Most likely it's the latter.
Indeed you are. Well of course there would have to be some context for it. Without suitable context it loses all the inherent class of subtlety.

I commend you on being one of the few who will know what is to come...Even if you don't quite. It's better than most can claim.
Oh wow you weren't kidding. Heh that is actually pretty ironic (also congratulations on using the word "irony" correctly! You've outdone perhaps 80% of the world's English-speaking population!) I honestly have no idea what mySpace can do so I'll just assume that their site works in a way that makes bands have an easier time doing things that they would want to do.

The fandom's ships are just tiny paper boats compared to Hussie's massive cruise liner. Sadly he seems to really enjoy driving that cruise liner into icebergs for some reasons.
Indeed. The laws of chaos are paramount in the land of Homestuck.
Don't. Just...don't. It's not worth it I promise you.

I won't deny the thought ran through my head as I wrote it as well. Yes certainly. Thankfully in general their personalities aren't quite as "shitty".
Excellent. I'm glad it has helped.
It certainly makes it easier to find things in one's folders.

Yes. It is a common hardship that brings us all closer together.
Yeah pretty much. Admittedly it does kind of suck when it overshadows your other things though.
True, but then again, let's not go there. Hehehe, she would agree.
I agree. Adventure awaits, no doubt! (hm that's actually not far from French. The main differences with English are that all nouns are either male or female, which affects how you spell the adjectives and other modifiers, some strange grammatical practices such as double negatives are used, and you get several more verb tenses. I don't really know enough about Icelandic to properly assess the differences but given the historical origins of each language I imagine Icelandic would be very different from both, but English would still be easier to learn than French.)
Oh dear. Well then I'll keep that in mind. I wouldn't want that, now would I?
Being 18 can certainly be troublesome. But don't worry, I suspect you'll grow out of it. (see what I did there?)
Hm yes, all the more reason to avoid it.
You are most welcome fair madam. (so you did! Nicely done!)

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-04-14 23:25:57 +0000 UTC]

It actually wouldn't be all that unlikely. People to meld just about anything with Homestuck, after all. Now I wish I could advertise this fantastic idea.

Either way, I bully on, most of the time. "What doesn't kill me" and all that.
I can't really conjure any realistic context for it, probably due to a lack of Shakespeare knowledge in my life. All I imagine is theatrically holding a skull.

I consider myself a very lucky possible victim.
I did? Huzzah, I actually feel very accomplished now! I can only imagine what Striders would say. I actually never did understand the fundamentals of MySpace. You make your profile, get blatantly annoying wallpapers and silly-looking cursors...then what?
No ship, canon or character is safe from Hussie's tyranny. Not even himself. (The man just managed to murder himself, comically.)
I probably won't, unless it'll be assigned for school some day. Dear lord, I hope not, though it would be typical.

See? I was right about you being Rose. (I did say that, right? I can't remember all that well.)
Ohohoh, I see what you did there!

I think I'd be rather willing to endure that. It might also bring more people to one's gallery out of curiosity.
It's always adventure with the Homestuck kids, and wow, that sounded like a quote from a Saturday morning cartoon.
This topic has outgrown brackets. The brackets have been dropped. I can't say I've actually noticed female and male words in English. As much as I enjoy the language, it always got on my nerves a bit how everything was 'it'. If there's actually a rule to the gender of words, it must have evaded me something fierce. Icelandic is mostly Nordic, so I can only imagine the difference between it and French.
No, you certainly wouldn't. It could damage your life in ways you cannot even comprehend.
*Bam Dum Tssh!* I see it quite clearly. And here I thought I would be starved of puns.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-04-15 00:46:13 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. I'll put the fellowship on my list of characters to make Homestuck Sprites of. Maybe I'll have some time to do them (sprites don't take very long to make), which may just be sufficient advertisement...

Hm, not really the best approach, but as long as the harm isn't significant I guess that's fine.
There are some quotes I can imagine as being relevant in some places (if someone you didn't like said they were "taking their leave of you", responding with "You cannot, sir, take from me any thing that I will more willingly part withal" would be quite clever, for example). Though it would certainly be heavily contextual. Hehehe oh that skull. Funny how that one little bit of a single play has come to encompass so much of the theater's identity.

Perfect.
Indeed you did. I'd offer you this large extravagant congratulation ceremony, but that may be too excessive so I shall simply resort to the most fundamental forms of coolkid praise
I guess stuff happens? Probably aids. Social networking aids, which is the worst kind of aids.
Most certainly not. I will say though it really does show that Homestuck has taken a life of its own when it can continue without an author...
Nope not gonna happen I will plug my ears and hum loudly if such a thing occurs. I've read some bad books because of classes but that's just too far.

I will admit that I have my moments of intense Lalonde-dom. It seems to be a bit stronger in this stream of conversation in particular... (Yes you did, no worries.)
Excellent, then I commend you on the functionality of your vision. : P

I wish I had more data with which to identify the rate of attention/overshadowing caused by popular individual works, though I imagine there are many subtle factors to be accounted for. I do suspect however that the gained attention is generally more significant.
Hehehe why yes it did.
Those brackets fell as though they were carrying a large pile of video games near a flight of stairs. English does indeed not have genders in it's words. It's one of the things that separates it from many other languages. It might just be me since I grew up with a lot of English influence, but I rather prefer it that way. It saves one from having to remember if the table is a male or a female. Yes given their histories there are bound to be many differences. There might be a couple Latin-based elements that made their way into both but I would suspect that they are few and far between.
And even if I could, then I'm certain the answers I find would be no less unpleasant...Very well I'll try to behave and keep myself preoccupied.
Oh I assure you puns are never something you will find lacking with me. They just keep happuning.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-04-22 20:31:32 +0000 UTC]

Oh gods, yes. I'm going to have to keep a close eye on tumblr and other fan-riddled websites to see if someone takes the bait. It would be so very epic.

It works. I just pretend I'm giving my hand a good workout.
That's kind of deep. And someone who says "take my leave off you" is probably the most likely person to know Shakespeare to begin with. Imagine explaining yourself to someone who has no idea what you're talking about.
People never seem to get the quote right there, though. It's always "to be or not to be".

The legendary coolkid thumb?! I think I might faint from sheer honour.
I'm kind of glad I never had anything to do with it. I don't like the sound of those kind of aids.
Oh lord, it's alive! RUN FOR THE HILLS.
If I ever become a teacher -heaven forbid that suffering to ever take place- I will assign that book for reading, just out of spite.

I bring out the Lalonde in people. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.(Lalonde-dom should really be a legitimate word.)

I checked on one of the images for the Showdown, the one with the Psiioniic. It does seem to be really popular, but the person has other Homestuck-related works with as many comments and attention. ...That probably didn't help you at all.
To be fair, we did warn them.
It does sound convenient when put that way, but somehow it's just trouble for me. I was once accused of being a sexist when I used 'he' when talking about a president.
I think that's for the best in every case. You chose well.
I won't stop you, I find them quite punny. (this is literally the only pun-insertion-based joke I know. Feel free to bask in its badness.)

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-04-23 21:35:54 +0000 UTC]

Fingers crossed.

Excellent, carry on then. Also might I say that I feel bad that I needed to go back several replies to remember that the topic of this particular line was typing practices.
Hm yes. Alright shall we retcon Shakespearean it to "can be used as a secret code language" then?
Indeed. Most people can't even get the relevant quote right. It's "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio;", not "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him well.". Silly people...

It's all good. Just keep it cool...
They really are unpleasant. They aren't even the helpful kind of aids that help you with stuff. They are just sadness and misery and infections.
I should warn you, those hills are pretty steep. You might want to take the stairs. Then again, if you do that you've already lost.
Goodness me let's hope that never happens then. I would pity the children that are forced to consume such drivel.

Are you suggesting that within the subconscious of all individuals lies a small fictional girl with a profound interest in psychoanalysis and the arcane arts? Hm well if that's the case she must be writing notes furiously right now on the topic. (indeed. Better yet Lalonde-dom should be something measurable so that we can calculate the lalondity of things or people.)

Oh do you mean the one by ? Yes that wouldn't be surprising considering they're on the Homestuck art team. Much of the HS stuff she's done is either in the comic or in merchandise such as the Homestuck calendars.
We told them, bro.
Things like that will always take some getting used to if you've spent your life following a different set of rules. Okay I can't really think of a situation where such an accusation would make sense...For the most part if you're referring to a person and they aren't specifically identified as a woman he is an acceptable word to use ("they" is more neutral, but "he" is more of a default than "she"). Unless it was a very specific context the other person was probably just being silly and/or a bit of a douche.
Thanks. I'll proceed with not being evil then...for now.
In the interest of safety it's probably best that you do. Puns are something that I can get punishingly bad with, so much so that it sometimes feels like a punch to the gut, almost as if I punctured a lung in the process. Seriously let's not open Pundora's Box with this one.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-05-01 19:52:27 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry, I've had to click the picture that started all this a few times to see if I'm getting things right. It's really unpractical how narrow the walls end up when you look at the whole thing together.
The classiest of all classy secret codes. I don't think there's a lot of those, actually.
I actually did not know that. I'm glad I didn't say anything before now. I probably would have googled it first, though, like a smart, petty person.

I've never had helpful aids, I could probably use some for my finals. Know any available people currently infected?
But there's no catchy song called "Run for the stairs". Doesn't sound very appropriate, either.
No worries, I doubt I'll ever have the motivation to inflect my misery upon children. My career lies elsewhere.

Yes. That is precisely what I'm suggesting. Either that, or a good-hearted, sassy, alcoholic cat-lover. Even the machoest of men have them, lying in wait for a chance to strike. I say we make Lalonde-dom a thing. Based on vocabulary, eyebrow-wiggling and interest in all things Lalonde.

...Yeah. Boy, I was no help at all there, was I? In fact you just told me more than I knew. I'll just get back to my seat then.
I don't know, the argument the other person used was that presidents did not necessarily need to be male, and I was ignorant for assuming it right away, yadda yadda. I'll go with the douche option.
I do hope you realize I'm writing all of this down? ...Okay, not literally, but I will be taking mental notes to use for bestowing puns upun people.

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Warcry31 In reply to Perinel [2012-05-02 02:29:15 +0000 UTC]

Yes indeed. It is a tragic flaw with DeviantArt that it starts becoming highly impractical to maintain good records of extended message conversations (none of the three message display formats work well: one shrinks the box into oblivion, another only shows two messages at a time, and the last doesn't distinguish messages by conversation). Notes aren't much better either...
Indeed. Oh there are, it's just that most of them are, well, secret.
Excellent. Hehehe, yes how very wise & prudent of you.

Couldn't we all. Sadly it isn't nearly as easy to spread as the bad kind. I think South Park mentioned that Jared the Subway guy had some, but no one really knows what happened to him.
Sounds like a cover band will have to be made. Also, it will be an ironic cover band.
How very encouraging. I feel as though I must ask then, where does it lie?

Oh dear. One would have to be most prudent with that then. This thing (yes it is definitely a thing) seems like a thing that could sneak up and strangle you at any time...Or perhaps even stab you in the eyes with knitting needles then ride you down a waterfall.

Heh, no worries. You have given me the topic for research in the first place, which is more than enough. And yes it is funny to think now but this entire chat began on the premise of me informing you of things didn't it...
Yeah I can still only see a very small number of contexts where such an argument could be made reasonably, and many of those lose their credibility when used to criticize someone. It's an easy assumption to make (and I doubt that you were the one being adamant about presidents all being men). So yeah, douche it is.
Thank goodness. For a moment I was worried that I would need to tell you to go acquire a writing implement for all of these notes. Hehehe good one. Yes do be sure to punder up a good few before dispuncing them out. Pundits will surely speak of the day a new puntiff had arisen.

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Perinel In reply to Warcry31 [2012-05-16 23:28:43 +0000 UTC]

It's really a pretty relevant con. As much as I do love DeviantArt, the loopholes it does have are kind of critical. I'm not one to hate, though, it's worked well enough for me so far. I don't have much experience with notes, no one ever sends me one
Secret secret codes? That makes no sense whatsoever.
I can't be known to be /gasp/ wrong, now, can I?

Good aids probably killed him. At least he died happy.
I take this mission upon me. There was actually made a cover for this song in Iceland. It was a christmas song. It sucked.
I haven't the tiniest clue. Away from kids, preferably. Also well paid. I'm sure I'll find something.

At least it would be a pretty epic way to go. Better than dying of heart failure at age 89. Can't you just imagine what would be said in the afterlife if there is one?

Yeah, back when I had no idea what I was even talking about and only knew Sollux-pony violated colour arrangements. Oh, how the time flies.
The world is just filled with them, isn't it? I recently learned just what a douche really was. Can't quite take it seriously anymore.
Writing implement? I have a laptop. I've got everything I need right here.
Wow, okay, I'm in over my head here. I can't even keep up. I'm doomed to love puns but fail at using them. Tragic.

(Sorry responding took even longer than usual, Finals zapped all energy out of me.)

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