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Someone requested arms and, lo, there are arms. Dropped myself in this one because none of the cast have skinny nothing arms. And the dryad ( minus her wings, since they wouldn't fit on the page ) because nobody's got chubby enough arms.However, movement ranges change for Transformers proper. You could get away with a 360 degree vertical range. However, if you've got G1 blocks instead of Beast Wars ball-joints, you've got a more narrow horizontal range, especially since the back is horizontally rigid.
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Flyby-Stardancer [2009-07-26 01:11:19 +0000 UTC]
Ooo, neat one.
I match you with the arm-folding. I tried to cross my arms the other way and it took me a few tries to even figure out HOW. And then the next time I folding my arms I automatically did it with my left hand tucked. *headdesk* Though it's uncomfortable to fold my arms that way.
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OokamiAya [2009-07-23 06:09:03 +0000 UTC]
Arms! Thank you. Arms are troublesome. I tend try crazy semi-tube-arms and then not understand why it looks wrong for some time...
Oh, Quickstrike. I love his little cameos.
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thatsongperson [2009-07-19 07:04:29 +0000 UTC]
I can get both my arms past the twelve o'clock vertical point, but I'm one of them crazy flexible people. They do go out at about a ten degree angle, though.
I cross my arms with the right under and spent about ten minutes trying to figure out how to do it the other way. I kept getting confused.
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evilkillerpoptarts [2009-07-19 06:38:10 +0000 UTC]
Yay dryad! Love for the voluptuous ones. ^_^
I really, really ought to volunteer to pose for an art class. I'd give them all sorts of crazy practice...
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WaywardInsecticon In reply to evilkillerpoptarts [2009-07-19 07:19:26 +0000 UTC]
Pose for meeeeeee! Every class I take, we always seem to end up with the skinny ones and nothing else! Biggest one I had wasn't even Size Tarantulas.
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evilkillerpoptarts In reply to WaywardInsecticon [2009-07-19 17:16:13 +0000 UTC]
*snrk* Might be weird seems how we know each other, but it would definitely be an exercise in "Poptarts has no shame. None whatsoever." XD
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azure-ocelot [2009-07-18 20:45:15 +0000 UTC]
Those shoulders seem a bit too small to me, like the arms are too heavy to be hanging off of them. Then again, how often do I actually look at shoulders? (My models usually have four legs and fur, or else exist entirely in my imagination. I didn't actually figure out how to draw human beings until after high school. So you probably know better than I do.)
As with ankles, I notice you overemphasize elbows slightly, with a kind of raised triangle bump. This seems to me a useful way of making the detail clear in relatively simple lineart. Otherwise it would be near-unnoticeable and the arm would succumb to Tube Effect. I think a lot of what my lineart lacks is necessary exaggeration like this. I'm trying to emulate what I see here because it seems to work. (My arms look horrible. Ugh.)
Oh, I'm right-handed and usually (though not always) tuck my left arm under. My husband is ambidextrous (but prefers his right hand) and is comfortable with either, though he has a slight tendency to more often tuck his right arm under. So... I'm thinking it's an individual thing? Or, as Koi suggested, subconsciously learned from our role models. I don't remember ever having to think about which arm to fold.
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MBlackwood [2009-07-18 16:36:13 +0000 UTC]
This is very valuable info, Wayward. Very useful and well-thought-out. Thank you again!
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Statri [2009-07-18 11:38:56 +0000 UTC]
I'm not too sure about the arm-folding thing -- I'm a lefty and felt more comfortable with my right hand tucked under.
Thanks for posting these. I still can't draw anything worth posting myself, but these are really helping.
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Koilungfish In reply to Statri [2009-07-18 12:27:36 +0000 UTC]
I'm left-handed and I tuck my left hand under my right arm when I fold my arms. I guess it's just variation ... or possibly something we learn from out parents? Both of mine are right-handed.
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almightyhat [2009-07-18 08:52:32 +0000 UTC]
I'm doublejointed! No really. I bend in ways that should be uncomfortable but mostly feel like a good stretch. It was easier to get my arm from twelve o'clock to three o'clock going up-and-over than by going down-and-around. Granted, my arm wasn't perfectly even with my trunk the whole time-- it veered out a bit about twenty degrees into the up-and-over swing. (I knew a guy in junior high who could do it that way, though.)
And your arm-folding may be actual science-- I folded my arms a couple of times and ended up with the right one tucked under.
Yay for the return of the dryad!
Now, when you say You could get away with a 360 degree vertical range. However, if you've got G1 blocks instead of Beast Wars ball-joints, you've got a more narrow horizontal range, especially since the back is horizontally rigid, does that mean in terms of drawing the characters or in terms of posing the action figures?
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WaywardInsecticon In reply to almightyhat [2009-07-18 16:42:18 +0000 UTC]
I was going by a combination of 'internet says so' and what I can do ( I'm flexible, but not unusually so. )
I stick with that 'rule' because years ago I noticed an Andy Capp comic and one character switched the way her arms were folded from panel to panel and cheesed me off with the inconsistancy.
She is Helpful Model. ^_^
Drawing. The toys are generally less flexible.
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almightyhat In reply to WaywardInsecticon [2009-07-19 03:41:34 +0000 UTC]
I've always been unusually flexible. I use my powers to confound people who think someone shaped like a dryad shouldn't be that limber. And to make people tell me I'd suck at archery cos my elbows hyper-extend. Apparently that's a good way to scrape the hell out of yourself with a bowstring.
Most natural for me when I just go to fold my arms is right-hand-tucked. Left-hand-tucked feels weird to me. Both-hands-tucked is for when it's cold. Neither-hand-tucked looks like Morticia Addams and is surprisingly comfortable, but not a natural motion.
I have a soft spot for her. Or soft spots in the same places as her.
I figured, kinda, it just seemed like it could've gone either way.
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WaywardInsecticon In reply to JZLobo [2009-07-19 04:08:22 +0000 UTC]
Not on purpose. I compulsively read all the comics on the page.
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JZLobo In reply to WaywardInsecticon [2009-07-19 04:14:40 +0000 UTC]
Oh okay. That restores my faith in your sense of humor.
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HotRod-302 [2009-07-18 07:47:37 +0000 UTC]
I tell ya, if you wanna see how the arms and back all work together watch boxing. I was watching a match recently and was marvelling at it and they're usually pretty defined.
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