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Being the history geek that I am, I guess it is kind of surprising that I haven't really done a "historically accurate" animation series before, but after seeing that awesome Buzzfeed Disney Princess video, and of course all the amazing art on here, I was inspired to make my own. I guess it is better late than never!
As I've said before elsewhere, from an artistic standpoint, I'm not at all bothered by the animated designs of the characters in Disney and Dreamworks films. They weren't documentaries after all so in most cases they didn't need to be accurate, and in animation in particular, it is more important to convey character and style in the designs. I am not trying to "fix" anything because I don't think there is anything to fix! That being said, it can still be fun to learn how your favorite characters might have looked if they had existed in real life.
For my series, I am trying to be as accurate as I possibly can. I'm taking the country of origin, the social class, the culture, and the specific decade into mind (instead of just a general sweep of multiple decades), and also adapting the colors and styles to fit what was available and worn everyday. I will try to keep the characters recognizable where I can, but I want to make my pictures realistic and so some elements of the original designs might be altered in the process.
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Wow, it is hard to believe it's been nearly 6 months since my last historically accurate drawing! And who better to continue the series than our lovable nerd Milo Thatch from Atlantis: The Lost Empire, with some great turn-of-the-century fashion!
I’m assuming Milo originally comes from a somewhat wealthy family since he was able to go to Oxford and since his grandfather was a world traveler with millionaire friends. At the very least he would be upper middle class and as such, he would be a well-bred young man. During this time your clothing and behavior was largely influenced by your social circle and upbringing, so Milo would never dress as sloppily as he does in the film, nerdy or otherwise. After all, as a professor there’s really no reason to roll up your shirt sleeves and unbutton your vest, the way a hardworking manual laborer might do – in fact that would probably be like a modern teacher taking his shirt off in class! At most Milo would need to take off his jacket while he was working, and when he is visiting Preston Whitmore he would remember his manners and wear his full suit.
In 1914, fashionable suits were starting to have longer lapels and lower cut vests. But I imagine Milo is a bit of a lazy dresser, who would buy conservative suits and wear them for several years before bothering to get a new one. So I decided to draw his suit as a slightly outdated version from the late 1900s instead, with a high collar and 5-button waistcoat. Usually all three pieces of the suit were made from the same material, so I picked a greenish-gray color that is correct for the time period and which also mimics Milo’s color palette in the film. Shirts stayed pretty much the same throughout the Edwardian period, with stiff high collars that could be removed for laundering. I drew Milo wearing a bow tie like he does in the movie – and like Buster Keaton has here ! Interestingly, most of the “shoes” men wore during this time period were actually boots that helped fill the gap created by the somewhat short trousers. Sometimes they buttoned up, but I drew Milo wearing a plain pair with laces, like these educators at Tuskegee University. In most circumstances Milo would also wear gloves and a hat , probably a derby or Homburg considering his profession.
Milo’s hair is a bit more 1990s than 1910s, most Edwardian hairstyles were actually quite severe and men usually had short hair that was parted and slicked back with grease. But when you watch silent movies from this period it seems like their hair becomes a bit more disheveled after some activity, and you sometimes see the same thing in photos. So I let Milo be a little careless with some hair hanging down over his forehead – but he’ll need to slick it back before going to work in the morning!
Of course Milo’s most distinguishing feature is his huge round glasses! But no one would wear huge glasses in 1914. During the 19th and early 20th centuries, bespectacled people were stereotyped as nerdy weaklings, so glasses were designed to look as invisible as possible. Teddy Roosevelt started to change that stereotype since he was so active, but most frames in the 1900s-10s were still small, oval, and often rimless. It seems that the pince-nez kind were the most popular, but the kind with armpieces were also worn, as you can see in these photos of a young Harry S. Truman.
Even though his everyday wear wasn’t very accurate, the clothing Milo wore on his expedition was actually pretty spot on WWI style military wear: www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploa…
– and check out their sweaters!
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For that I have to give Disney thumbs up!
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megaspartan3456 [2025-02-06 23:22:59 +0000 UTC]
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UnicornRose4U [2020-03-10 07:52:34 +0000 UTC]
I would imagine being stuck working in the boiler room of all places despite his credentials and not being particularly well respected by his peers might have had an impact on how he presented himself. That and I get the feeling his upbringing was far enough out of the ordinary that it likely didn't leave much room for social norms in general, enough to skirt by maybe, but only when he has the frame of mind to actually remember them in the first place. Also while Milo may have been raised in the upper-middle class circle, he may have actually gone DOWN the proverbial ladder since his house seemed kinda small even for someone living alone during that time period (or maybe I'm just misrepresenting a detail or two, its been awhile since I last saw it).
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trollking01 [2017-03-27 23:33:52 +0000 UTC]
This is actually prettty close to the movie so I guess they did their homeworl somewhat
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LoverofUnicorns96 [2017-03-05 02:47:27 +0000 UTC]
After Looking over all off your historically accurate fashion designs for theses characters, they are totally amazing and very detailed. I'm feeling inspired to draw my OC, Sandy from Dumbo in Historically Accurate, 1941. (My OC is a Wiccan)
Keep up with the good work!
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Wickfield In reply to LoverofUnicorns96 [2017-03-05 02:53:26 +0000 UTC]
You totally should! I bet it will turn out great.
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LoverofUnicorns96 In reply to Wickfield [2017-03-07 04:22:59 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, in fact, I'll do it tomorrow!
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LoverofUnicorns96 In reply to Wickfield [2017-03-09 06:11:58 +0000 UTC]
I'll let you know soon, I did some research on the fashion to make it similar to Sandy's outfit.
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NathanArtDumpGround [2017-01-02 04:39:21 +0000 UTC]
Overall the same design in the realistic history as in the film...
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EIRivero [2016-08-28 00:53:50 +0000 UTC]
Grease or brillatine debut was in the world fair of France in 1900, so is probably that Milo, conservative like you said, would still stick (no pun intended) by pomade wich is made from bee wax... or bear fat. is very long lasting but it stick in your hair forever.
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Wickfield In reply to EIRivero [2016-08-28 01:02:03 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I was thinking bear's grease or Macassar oil...I believe both of those were originally used in Victorian times but would have lasted until the Edwardian age. (I think.)
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EIRivero In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-28 01:09:50 +0000 UTC]
are you a historian balchelor or similar?
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Wickfield In reply to EIRivero [2016-08-28 01:35:24 +0000 UTC]
No, I actually got my bachelor's in business. But I've been a history nerd since I was a little kid, so I've learned a lot over the last 15 years.
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EIRivero In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-28 02:17:57 +0000 UTC]
Mine is in history, so if you want to know some detail i could advice a little. Oddly enough, the history career builds you to be more of a investigator and searcher off problems of cultural and social kind.
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Wickfield In reply to EIRivero [2016-08-28 02:21:50 +0000 UTC]
Well I guess the importance of history is to understand how issues of the past have shaped (and continue to shape) today's society. After all if you don't know your history you are doomed to repeat it! Did you specialize on a particular focus in your studies?
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EIRivero In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-28 02:41:39 +0000 UTC]
I am triying to specilize in cultural problems, or history of ideas. economy is good but I am not really interested in that being just my focus, more like a tool to explain some and just some, cultural changes. It will sound weird, with hollywood depictions of mexicans but for mexicans, religion is a taboo thing to speak of if you are an academic. worse if you are politician, because you could be mocked or lose an election if you show any religious leaning wich is cultural detail that is worth studing. teorical i am not really into marxism like some of my classmates and to be honest, not to fond of positivism or neo positivism as a theoric tool, i lean more in Hegel and idealists.
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Code-E [2016-08-21 05:29:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh wow! I honestly wasn't expecting Milo. He kind of looks like Indiana Jones when he's in his professor clothes.
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Wickfield In reply to Code-E [2016-08-21 14:16:08 +0000 UTC]
Oh wow he does! I admit I've never seen much of the Indiana Jones films, but the early turn-of-the-century fashion is pretty common in movies. In fact that was why I wanted to draw Milo, apart from the awesomeness of his movie, he is one of the few characters whose time period is actually specified in the film!
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FanaticPassion [2016-08-19 11:53:22 +0000 UTC]
with the bowtie and the ouftit, he reminds me a fictional character of a serie, the Doctor from Doctor Who ^^
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MoonyMina [2016-08-18 06:41:06 +0000 UTC]
brilliant!!
I love Milo and what you've done with him to make him historically accurate is spot-on!
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Wickfield In reply to MoonyMina [2016-08-18 13:01:20 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I had the plans for him forever...I just had to sit down and draw it!
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SceneDemonz [2016-08-18 03:20:44 +0000 UTC]
I also realized that he kinda looks like an actual US president here lol
Look up Woodrow Wilson
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Wickfield In reply to SceneDemonz [2016-08-18 03:21:29 +0000 UTC]
Yep! I also referenced Harry Truman in my research, he was about Milo's age in 1914 and wore glasses, too!
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SceneDemonz In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-18 03:25:42 +0000 UTC]
Wow, that's actually really smart and brilliant.
Keep up the good work!!
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Wickfield In reply to SceneDemonz [2016-08-18 03:13:21 +0000 UTC]
Yes, Atlantis had some great designs but I like to see Milo as more of a gentlemanly type, like he would have been in real life!
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SceneDemonz In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-18 03:19:44 +0000 UTC]
In a sense I can see that, though I do like the outfit he's wearing
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dattebayogirl [2016-08-18 01:07:55 +0000 UTC]
Are you doing any more? I'm just curious because I like historical fashion as well.
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Wickfield In reply to dattebayogirl [2016-08-18 01:25:42 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I have a ton of these in my gallery! I plan on doing a few more before finishing the series up.
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TaraRaeStrider [2016-08-17 22:49:23 +0000 UTC]
Oh my goodness. I love him. He's such a nerd, and adorable.
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Wickfield In reply to TaraRaeStrider [2016-08-18 03:12:49 +0000 UTC]
Hehe, in realistic fashion Milo looks like a perfect absent-minded professor!
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TaraRaeStrider In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-18 05:36:55 +0000 UTC]
That he is. It's nice to see someone so bookish want to go on an expedition.
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Wickfield In reply to TaraRaeStrider [2016-08-18 13:00:49 +0000 UTC]
Yes, Atlantis is a very underrated movie.
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TaraRaeStrider In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-18 23:35:26 +0000 UTC]
One of the most. I think it has something to do with the lack of singing. Which I actually enjoyed.
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meLessia [2016-08-17 21:55:50 +0000 UTC]
Man you research so much for these!
They all look great btw, and this is no exception : P
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Wickfield In reply to meLessia [2016-08-18 03:20:24 +0000 UTC]
Actually, this was one of the periods I knew more about due to my Harold Lloyd addiction familiarity with silent films, but I had to make sure I got all the little details correct. After drawing so many tunics and draperies something structured like a suit is kind of tough!
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meLessia In reply to Wickfield [2016-08-18 21:37:37 +0000 UTC]
I see! Well that still counts as research
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