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2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-25 23:24:50 +0000 UTC]

Awwwwwwwwww!! ^_^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-26 11:21:23 +0000 UTC]

I know right, she's absolutely adorable.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-27 04:51:12 +0000 UTC]

So snuggly looking! ^_^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-27 09:42:48 +0000 UTC]

Yep, Tails certainly would snuggle with her, considering she's his girlfriend in my fan fiction canon.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-28 04:45:30 +0000 UTC]

Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog? Hopes she's as old as he is.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-28 11:25:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh don't worry, she's about the same age as him.

Whether that be 8 or 9?

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-28 16:38:40 +0000 UTC]

8. Just making sure. Because some fans tend to make pedophilic ships... Like Shadamy or Knuxouge.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-28 16:50:33 +0000 UTC]

How is Knuxouge pedophilic? Knuckles is only 2 years younger than Rouge, also I think I actually like Knuxouge to an extent.

Shadamy on the other hand really doesn't make sense, Shadow is like 50+ years old.

Ok, 8 is a decent age for Lily.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-29 02:36:28 +0000 UTC]

8 is perfect! ^_^

Yeah, like I said. Shadamy = bleh. Oh and Shadow might be 50+, but his alien DNA makes him physically and adult that's around... I'd say about 18-20ish, physically.Β Β 
At least it's not as bad as Shadria. :barf: Maria is Shadow's sister, and like 12. And Maria as a hedgehog... Maria was brought back as a hedgehog using Shadow's DNA. Making her his daughter/sister...

Knuckles is 16, technically a child. And Rouge is 18, an adult. Legally it's pedophilic.
But in all seriousness, they might have small crushes on each other, but they'd never be able to be who they really are with each other.
Knuckles is dedicated to a life of duty and solitude, Rouge is a free-spirited treasure hunter. The only one that lets Rouge be herself is Shadow.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-29 09:00:09 +0000 UTC]

lol, I disagree, Knuckles and Rouge don't have that far off of an age gap to be considered pedophilic but something like Tails x Rouge is definitely pedophilic.

But what I do agree on is that Knuckles and Rouge don't really get on that well with each other despite being a popular ship, perhaps your right that Knuckles would never fall in love with anyone, the Master Emerald is too important to him. I might as well give up on Knuxouge, it wouldn't work anyway.

The main ship I do is Sonic x Fiona, I really love that ship.

Hmm, yeah I would say Shadow and Maria are really more like brother and sister really.

Well I didn't like any of the main Tails ships that exist, Tails x Cosmo just seems weird to me, Zooey from Sonic Boom is perhaps the most bland girlfriend character ever, Tails x Cream I really don't like at all, Tails x Fiona has the awkward age gap, sure they made him 11 in that comic but if they kept him at 8 then that's even worse, hence why I prefer Sonic x Fiona. That's why I decided to go for my own fan character to be Tails' girlfriend, this is Lily's old design.

She was originally meant to be the girlfriend character for my raccoon character Rudy for my Rocketeer Raccoon story but I scrapped her in favour for a snake girlfriend instead but I didn't want to let go of Lily, that's when I soon realised she'd be perfect for Tails.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-29 21:52:05 +0000 UTC]

Fiona? You mean the gal that turned out to be evil and mistook sonic for Scourge?

A snake? I'm just going to stay silent, because I hate snakes.

As for Tails, I think it's cute when he has a crush. He's only a child, so crushes don't mean much (especially since he's prepubescent); but they're still cute. ^_^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-29 22:33:58 +0000 UTC]

Nothing wrong with kids having little crushes and falling in love, considering they did just that for Tails in Sonic X and Sonic Boom.

Now then, let me explain about Fiona, she wasn't originally evil at all and she was happy with Sonic, for Fiona to turn against the Freedom Fighters and dumping Sonic for a low-life douche-bag just doesn't make sense really. Basically what actually happened was that the writer Ian Flynn largely favoured Sonic x Sally and he wanted them back together which is odd because Ian Flynn actually wrote a fan comic called Other M which has Sonic x Fiona in it, encase you were wondering it was Ken Penders that had previously ended Sonic x Sally and made Sonic x Fiona official in the comic just like Ian Flynn's fan comic but I guess Ian Flynn got annoyed with this. So Ian Flynn decided to kill Sonic x Fiona off by turning her into an evil character while also killing off Tails x Fiona at the same time, all that just so he could get Sonic back with Sally... I know Sonic x Fiona ain't a popular ship but I love it more than any other Sonic ship (Tails x Lily is logically my second favourite), I made my own fan group for it, got a good small amount of members in it and I plan to make a fan fiction story (into a comic if I ever could) set in my own alternate universe where Sonic and Fiona are a couple, along with friends to have world saving adventures together.

Mind you, I'm not sure what to call this series really, I suppose you have any ideas for a cool series title? For the moment I can only think of "Sonic & Fiona".

Aww, I love snakes, I think they are beautiful creatures and Ball Pythons are my favourites but that's understandable, not everyone likes them. I haven't really come up with a clothes design for her yet but this is Sarah.

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By the way, what you said about Knuxouge before, do you think it's a bad ship? I don't know if I should stop liking it myself considering that they are not always on good terms.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-31 05:08:39 +0000 UTC]

*Giggles* Kid crushes do make for cute TV.

Really? Huh.... Yet another reason to just ignore the comics. They can get LAAAAZY. I thought it was pretty dumb when suddenly they used the old "alternate universe where everyone's moral axis is flipped" cliche. But now I learn they used it to get Sonic back together with Sally instead of actually coming up with something deep and convincing, or at least, having Fiona meet a tragic end? Wow....
You can keep shipping Fiona and Sonic for all I care, then.

Skunks and snakes don't get along. That's why skunks are immune to their poison. And that's I'm I going to say.

As for Knuxouge. First: Knuckles' name SUCKS for ship names. Honestly, "Knuxouge" or anything with "Knux" in it sounds terrible. Except Knuxsu.
Second: Crushes are fleeting.Β 
Third: Rouge is too smart, calculating, free-spirited, and morally dark for Knuckles. Shadow is capable of understanding her logic, and her logic prevents his brashness from killing him. She's also a great leader of Team Dark because Shadow and Omega (a couple of tough-guys) are balanced by her mind. Knuckles is a bullheaded idiot that literally doesn't know left from right, can't read or write, and ate a napkin without realizing it. And finished eating it when he learned he was eating it.
Fourth: Shadow's morals are as dark as Rouge's, Knuckles could never get behind the shady things Rouge does (as long as he's aware she's doing something shady). And Knuckles hates her for being a thief. Shadow doesn't care that she's a thief. In fact, Shadow does something that NO OTHER Sonic character does. He knows she's a treasure hunter/jewel thief but DOESN'T judge her for it. He DOESN'T label Rouge as a thief. Omega ignores her thievery entirely because it's irrelevant to him, and he's a robot. And Eggman USES her for her thieving skills. Everyone else, especially Knuckles, labels her a thief. (Even goody two-shoes Sonic).Β 
Here's my theory: Rouge, a bat who's passion is treasure hunting, isn't afraid of following her passion. But this passion is misjudged, and results in EVERYONE labeling her a thief. She has no friends, and though she's strong enough to hide it, she's lonely. Then she learns about "Project Shadow" and what he is from G.U.N. G.U.N., being the backwards government agency it is, LABELS Shadow as just "and experiment and nothing more." And G.U.N. decides to raid The Ark and shoot up Eggman and Shadow like they did 50 years ago. BUT Rouge, knowing what it's like to be labeled, puts her career on the line by wagering that she can get The Ark-Eggman-Shadow situation under control by sabotaging Eggman's plans and persuading Project Shadow. But what she really wants: To show Shadow that he's NOT just an experiment, and show him what friendship is. Why? Because she not only knows what it's like to be labeled, but that Shadow doesn't know she's a "thief" and therefore can get to know the real her, and not judge her. He does that, and so much more. He challenges her like no one else. And she clearly loves challenges, that's probably why she's a treasure hunter. And Shadow forces Rouge to be genuine, or else he won't listen. Her tricks don't work on him, and she likes it. Rouge does indeed give Shadow companionship that he desires, even if he won't admit it due to the trauma of having no childhood and then seeing his sister murdered in front of him.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-10-31 11:38:49 +0000 UTC]

Aww, definitely agree with the kid crushes thing.

Yeah, ignoring the comic is the only way around it, you should see the Sonic x Fiona commissions I got made like this one.


Well yes skunks are similar to mongooses although the king of being the bane of all venomous snakes is the Honey Badger, it doesn't give a damn about anything.
Speaking of snakes, I'm interested in also having the Egg Bosses in this Sonic fan fic as well such as Clove and Cassia, Maw and Thunderbolt but I'm not sure about that one that's a snake, Lord Mordred Hood because I'm not sure if he is considered overpowered and he could make anyone scared of him?

Hmm, I've never really been quite sure about Knuxouge (or Knouge as it's otherwise known as) but now I just don't get it, you can't love somebody you don't like, despite that one scene in Sonic Adventure 2 where Knuckles saves Rouge from falling but Knuckles dislikes her while Rouge is just flirting. So I'm thinking of dropping Knuxouge from my liked ships because of it, I guess it always felt off to me.
Also now you mention it, I'm really not sure why some people like Sonouge, Rouge is pretty much the "fatal femme" of the Sonic series. For the labelling thing, that's probably why Shadow and Rouge are friends.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-31 23:51:52 +0000 UTC]

Aww! ^_^ That pic is so cute! ^_^ And sonic is so muscular.

Your fanfic, you do you.

Yeah just drop Knuxouge. Sonic Adventure 2? Rouge could have saved herself, that was just a scene to screw with fans.
Sonouge? Really? I know they don't have much tension between them, but their moral axises are way too off.
It's also because Rouge and Shadow balance each other. ^_^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-01 00:07:15 +0000 UTC]

Sonic isn't supposed to be muscular looking but whatever but thanks, I'm glad you think it's cute too.

Exactly, it's my fan fic, I'll do what I want.

I only see Shadow and Rouge as just friends so that's how I prefer to see them. So I take it that Knuckles shouldn't romance with anyone at all?

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-01 01:34:30 +0000 UTC]

Well Knuckles has Julie-su. He may not have anyone in the games, but in the comics there's Julie-su. ^_^

They're friends only because Sega is against relationships. And Shadow is locked up in his shell. He never had a childhood, was born an adult, and saw his sister murdered in front of him. He's not ready yet, but Rouge is making progress.
Clearly Rouge wants them to get closer though. She tries getting him to socialize about stuff that's not work-related, she's with him in EVERY game that she's in, he doesn't judge her, she goes out of her way for him (especially in Sonic Brawl), she got him to help her in Sonic Free Riders (and probably gave him his glasses ), and she DID want to see their future together by using Eggman Nega's device. After Shadow rejected her offer to look into their future, she tried to get him to go treasure hunting with her too. Then there's this:Β img00.deviantart.net/9802/i/20…

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-01 13:20:02 +0000 UTC]

I don't really like Julie-su and this isn't set in an Archie universe, it's more of a mix of different Sonic universes into one. There is Shade though from Sonic Chronicles if I wanted to go with an alternate love interest but I don't think so, it wasn't a very good game as far as I know. Ah so your into Shadouge, personally Shadow isn't the romantic type.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-02 00:57:44 +0000 UTC]

Your thing is set in a mix of universes. Including the Archie universe evidently.

Shade?

Did you not JUST read what I said about Shadow? Β Shadow is locked up in his shell. He never had a childhood, was born an adult, and saw his sister murdered in front of him. He's not ready yet, but Rouge is making progress.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-02 01:01:44 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I'm going to ignore your suggestion of not liking Knuxouge and I'm sticking with it.

What I mean is there's characters from Archie, the Sonic OVA, the games and whatever else I want.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-02 02:25:27 +0000 UTC]

What? Why?

Ok! ^_^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-02 10:42:04 +0000 UTC]

Well I don't know why you think the two don't completely get along because they can be seen in Sonic Generations talking to each other in a friendly way. This is what my friend Lawman09 said to me on the matter. "They get along pretty well in Sonic X. Β Knuckles just isn't open with people at first in Sonic X. Β But he slowly begins to open up. Β Don't forget, he always had his Master Emerald duties at first in his mind.

"As for the games, they're able to get along pretty well. Β Colors 3DS, Rouge invites Knuckles to Eggman's space amusement park. Β Generations, we see the two casually interacting and eating together. Β Forces, Rouge smacks Knuckles from the back, but neither of them show any ill will in their expressions. Β With that said, it was just a friendly smack."

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-03 05:29:47 +0000 UTC]

I didn't say they don't get along. I just said that in a LONG RUN they'd never work out. For starters: Rouge lives in the city, has "Club Rouge," works for G.U.N., and is overall tech savvy. So she's very modern, social, and lives around tech.
Knuckles lives on an island that's taken over by nature, has ruins, has quiet, and has only him and the master emerald. So exactly the opposite of Rouge's comforts.
So while they can be friends, how would they live together?
I got more reasons why they'd be friends, but nothing more.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-06 23:42:45 +0000 UTC]

So you'd think Knuckles and Rouge wouldn't last long together?

At least Tails won't have that trouble now he will have Lily.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-07 00:06:41 +0000 UTC]

YES! I've been saying the this entire time!

Hope not.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-07 00:17:36 +0000 UTC]

Not to worry, Tails is in good hands.

For what I think, Knuckles x Rouge has to be the most complicated Sonic pairing, in the games they appear to have become friends but in Sonic X it's the love/hate cliche where Knuckles wants to smash up Rouge will she's flirting and toying with him.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-07 20:40:11 +0000 UTC]

Yay! ^_^

Really? Because Sonic X seems to portray them exactly as they are in the games. But due to it being a show, you can focus on the details more, and it has more details. Do you think that the game designers would put the same level of details and dialog in their games? Or would they go with more of the gameplay players want?

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-07 21:17:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, this scene is probably the biggest proof why they shouldn't that I found. youtu.be/07D_xfu0Gkk?t=5m47s

Usually gameplay is the top priority for Sonic games.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-08 00:10:17 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. Regardless of the end of that scene, Knuckles is never going to change his attitude. He NEVER thinks before he speaks, he doesn't acknowledge Rouge's intelligence, he thinks he has intelligence, and he'll never stop calling her a jewel thief. Rouge resents being called a jewel thief.
And she thought Shadow was dead in that scene, so Knuckles was sloppy seconds.

Exactly.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-08 11:05:34 +0000 UTC]

Knuckles in Sonic Boom is even more stupid... I wished we could have a proper animated Sonic TV show again instead of this pointless comedy.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-08 23:59:37 +0000 UTC]

I actually think Sonic Boom is funny.
But forget about that. Let me ask you: How easy is it for anyone to fool Knuckles? And how easy is it for anyone for fool Rouge?

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-09 10:00:33 +0000 UTC]

Knuckles is definitely a character that is easily fooled no matter which canon your talking about, since Sonic 3, Eggman tricked Knuckles into thinking it was Sonic who was trying to steal the Master Emerald.

Rouge I don't think gets fooled like Knuckles does, not that I know of though.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-09 23:54:37 +0000 UTC]

That's my point. Rouge has a much sharper and more skeptical mind. Such minds don't go well with blunt, gullible minds like Knucklehead.
However... well... actually I'll save this next point for the notes. It's a bit private.Β 

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to 2SkunkySkunks [2017-11-10 00:00:24 +0000 UTC]

Ok, sure. Funny how we're debating on Knuckles and Rouge on the comments of something that has nothing to do with it. I bet you'll love to see more of Lily in the future and with Tails.

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2SkunkySkunks In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-11-10 00:14:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh I will! ^_^ Foxes and skunkies are so cute! ^_^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-25 19:25:29 +0000 UTC]

Aww, she's cute.

Well I have to say this is completely different from what I was actually expecting, while real skunks don't have white cheeks on their face but most people seem to draw Anthro skunks that way so I'll let that slide. Also she's alternatively known as Lily Bloom but Lily the Skunk works too.

Other than that, she's absolutely adorable.

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xchaosangel In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-25 19:54:39 +0000 UTC]

Ahhh I'm glad you liked it! Honestly I did give all black a go but it really didn't look like a Sonic character, and I wanted to stay loyal to the original design as much as I could ;;; though I did take a bit of artistic liberty here and there.

And whoops, slight oversight, sorry about that! oAo

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to xchaosangel [2017-10-25 20:01:25 +0000 UTC]

What's the oversight?

Ok, that's understandable that you did that to keep her in the Sonic style as well as being loyal to the original design. Overall it's lovely.

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xchaosangel In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-25 20:03:37 +0000 UTC]

The name lol! I've changed it on the title now~ Thank you for commissioning! ^v^

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to xchaosangel [2017-10-26 22:10:43 +0000 UTC]

By the way, that line on the middle of her above the skirt area, what's that? I'm just curious.

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xchaosangel In reply to Rocketeer-Raccoon [2017-10-26 22:41:17 +0000 UTC]

Just a crease! Some skater dresses have it, where the skirt connects the top half.

Looked super plain without it tbh, in comparison to the gloves and boots. It balances the outfit out~

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to xchaosangel [2017-10-26 23:17:22 +0000 UTC]

Ok, good to know.

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Rocketeer-Raccoon In reply to xchaosangel [2017-10-25 20:06:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh you didn't have to do that, in fact both names can work, the other name was fine but I'm also fine with the change you did.

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