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This isn't a bashingI'm being serious: It's very seldom that I see any of them bashing about Lucifer.
It's always attacks on something about God and Jesus Christ, or religion in general.
I wonnnndderrrrrrrrr....
ATHEISTS Y U NO BASH LUCIFER??
Have fun with that l3
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CoronetV8 [2013-01-26 17:54:57 +0000 UTC]
A) Because only a few people praise them.
B) Because they are.
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The-Ironic-Monster [2012-12-17 04:40:03 +0000 UTC]
I like to mess with Christians by saying things like, "hey, what if Jesus was the deceiver and Lucifer is being quieted by god the false god and everyone is worshiping the false god as predicted in the bible?" or "have you accepted Lucifer as your Lord and Savior?" I like them all the same Way I like Voldemort and harry: very interesting fictional characters. Plus, apparently, Satan is more reliable then god due to the fact that he actually does what he apparently is supposed to do.
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gdpr-19335497 [2012-12-11 02:48:49 +0000 UTC]
It boggles my mind. Why would anyone want to root for a pathetic loser? It's interesting that mankind is more powerful than satan, a pathetic little ghost, and yet satan is smart enough to convince all of us to do stupid and evil things.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to gdpr-19335497 [2012-12-11 19:32:02 +0000 UTC]
Makes me want to see some savage trolling towards Mr. Lucifer XD
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Ask-War [2012-11-15 10:48:28 +0000 UTC]
That's because, in my opinion at least, christianity is pushed down their throats more often. If satanism was doing the same thing, you would see the same response.
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GuineaPigDan [2012-11-12 03:29:26 +0000 UTC]
Well, if a Christian were to critique Buddhism, would it make more sense to focus on what the Buddha said or what Mara said?
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Rivermask13 [2012-11-05 13:10:14 +0000 UTC]
I have done research into Satanism, most notably LaVeyan Satanism, and I see no reason to bash it.
Most Satanists don't believe in the Christian ideal of Satan at all. As such, I haven't found anyone imposing dogma on others in the name of Satan. What you refer to as Satanism is actually a relatively secular group.
Also, it seems to me that the Lucifer in the Bible is much less of a tyrant than his buddy Yahweh.
Comparing the thousands of people killed by the latter and the ten killed by Satan is a good start.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Heraus [2012-11-04 01:56:30 +0000 UTC]
That didn't make sense whatsoever, because there is such a thing as "Satanism", so...
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Heraus [2012-11-04 02:09:28 +0000 UTC]
Nope, I'm saying why don't they criticize Satan's position and existence as much as God or Jesus's position and existence, since Satan does claim to have his own religion and such.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Heraus [2012-11-04 02:15:11 +0000 UTC]
I'm afraid the matter of quantity and influence is not what I'm looking for. It's not just satanism, but he is also a big part in Christianity, Satan plays a big role in the foundation and world, so I don't see the answer yet.
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DreamsphereINC [2012-09-21 13:34:30 +0000 UTC]
"because Satan doesn't exist?"
Some of you also believe god doesn't exist yet you still "bash" him.
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elyet123 [2012-09-07 21:21:00 +0000 UTC]
I don't beileave in eaither...atheist dun beilieve in this or atleast some of us...so why would we bash it?
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Atheist-Brony [2012-08-17 02:29:34 +0000 UTC]
Personally, I'd prefer Satan over God. When God rejects us for being human, Satan's the one who takes us in. When he (disguised as a snake) told Eve to eat the fruit from the garden, he told her to have free will and not act based only on what God said. Seems like a cool guy B)
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Atheist-Brony [2012-08-17 02:56:54 +0000 UTC]
Based on my study on the topic, Satan doesn't sound like a cool dude, he is actually just a prideful and suave douche who keeps thinking he will become God over us by seducing us into thinking he's a so-called victim.
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Atheist-Brony In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-08-17 14:45:00 +0000 UTC]
Nonetheless, he's not insisting we get up every Sunday morning and apologize for being human. I just have a lot of issues with such a murderous being having dominion over us. However, I don't completely rule out the existence of some higher power that caused the universe to be. If there were, we would likely not know because such a great being would pay little attention to a minuscule speck of dust called Earth in an obscure corner of the galaxy. Even though my parents are religious, I never have been, and researching further into religion caused me to dislike, almost hate it. What's your view?
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Pencilartguy In reply to Atheist-Brony [2012-08-18 13:54:15 +0000 UTC]
Maybe you should read my comment.
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Pencilartguy [2012-08-11 11:55:51 +0000 UTC]
Good point. In fact, some of them make him to be the victim or the good guy. They make God to be a mass murderer but they exclude the fact that God only punished nations that did evil, nations that had sex with and sacrificed children. This wasn't recorded in the Bible but according to a guy I listened to named Michael Voris there was a temple in Palestine that practiced child sex acts and when the Jews invaded they thought this to be so horrible they utterly destroyed the temple and turned it into a garbage dump. A fire was lit there and was to be kept burning. They named this place "Gehenna". Jesus referenced Gehenna when he was talking about hell.
The Bible says Satan entices man's desires. Considering the grave sexual immorality in today's world it's no wonder why they show sympathy for the devil even if they don't believe in him. It's kinda funny how they sympathize with nations guilty of pedophilia and child-murder but make God to be the bad one for punishing them. They're not looking at the entire picture.
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Atheist-Brony In reply to Pencilartguy [2012-08-18 15:28:19 +0000 UTC]
Interesting. However, if he destroyed evil nations then, why doesn't he now? Why didn't he prevent the Holocaust or similar genocides? Why do many catholic priests molest children, if we want to go into the topic of pedophilia? If God was really that intent on punishing the wrongdoers, I'm sure the world would be a much better place than it is now. I'm genuinely curious, being an atheist myself it's interesting to hear what the other side has to say.
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Totally-dead [2012-08-06 12:00:32 +0000 UTC]
Simple: God is the one we are supposed to love, and believe in. A lot of you guys do not believe in satan yourselves so he is hardly a priority over god.
That and comparitively he does seem kinda cool.
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gdpr-19335497 In reply to Totally-dead [2012-12-11 02:47:09 +0000 UTC]
Satan is going to lose in the end. Does it make any sense to join the losing side just because it's "cool"?
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Totally-dead In reply to gdpr-19335497 [2012-12-11 07:45:28 +0000 UTC]
Oh my smart little pumpkin. Aside from the joke in that post, what makes you so certain Satan will lose in the end?
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LovePikaNizzy [2012-07-21 07:42:29 +0000 UTC]
Well, I think it's because..
We mainly tell people about God and Jesus.. not about satan. So maybe they don't even know..
And those who praise him are owned. And it sometimes gets me to wonder if their only reason to praise satan is that he doesn't like God..
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zarhx [2012-06-29 01:13:06 +0000 UTC]
Because Satan killed 1 person in the bible while God killed millions. (;
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LovePikaNizzy In reply to zarhx [2012-07-21 07:48:01 +0000 UTC]
And the reason why they were killed and what kind of a person they were, of course, doesn't matter.
God may be Love but he is also Justice. Would you bash a court for judging a serial killer to die? For judging a lot of serial killers to die? I guess not, or am I wrong?
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Totally-dead In reply to LovePikaNizzy [2012-08-06 12:08:16 +0000 UTC]
Millions. Most were hardly discriminate. Mass genocides, women being stoned to death for not crying out while being raped, I believe at one point there was an invasion where people killed women and children and cut out unborn babies and dashed them against rocks. Justified in the glory of god. Are you trying to tell me that a however many month old foetus is a bad person? Aren`t you guys completely against abortion anyway?
Explain better than that if I was you, or stop trusting your bible so preciously.
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LovePikaNizzy In reply to Totally-dead [2012-08-09 10:37:50 +0000 UTC]
Well, if a woman was happy to be raped and actually liked it.. She wasn't much better than the person who raped her.
As for the mass things. Let's say you had a field. And someone secretly puts a bad seed in the field. The plant that grows of the bad seed reproduces, and bad plants take away the space of good plants and don't let them live. When you see this, you decide the bad plants have to be taken away. But if you only pull out the fully grown bad plants and leave all the bad seeds that fell on the ground, and all the young bad plants, and all the bad plants that grew too close to some of the good plants, you haven't removed the problem at all. Sure, you made it smaller - but as time passes, you will again have the same problem as you did before, so you didn't do anything.
And when it comes to humans, a kid may not be bad at first, but depending on how it's raised, it may become just as bad, if not worse, than its ancestors. And it happens very rarely that a kid grows up to be good even though it was raised to be bad, and people who are bad (unless they want to change that), will not attempt to make their kid a better person than themselves.
Also, times were different back then. I highly recommend you to read the New Testament. Jesus changed some things. Including that there was no more killing in the name of God. Well, people might have claimed they are doing it in the name of God, but they really had different reasons and said it was in the name of God just to justify themselves.
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Totally-dead In reply to LovePikaNizzy [2012-08-09 10:54:48 +0000 UTC]
A. God is omnipotent. If he can use spot check plagues for killing the first son of every family why can he not kill en mass all those in a civilsation who ARE bad?
B. And this explains the murdering of unborn children does it? Or young children? They could have absorbed them into their own culture you know. Taught them how to become whatever it is was considered "good". If I remember they also used to kill all men, women and children but the virgin girls in some cases. Funny that.
C. Seriously? A guy has a knife at your throat. You are terrified. You scream, it is quite evident that you will die. But, thanks to a crazy religious book, if you do NOT scream you will be stoned later. Talk about the hammer and the anvil.
The New Testament is more of a mellow read, yes. But you just defended the old testament. It should be one or both. If both, then your moral position crumbles.
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zarhx In reply to zarhx [2012-06-29 01:16:22 +0000 UTC]
This is a dumb fucking question loooool.
God is the one you guys run around talking about.
You say he did EVERYTHING! and made me and made this and did that!
You never talk about satan, why should we?
Let's talk about the guy you think is running this joint,
not the guy you think is sitting underground waiting for me to die so he can poke me with sharp things for eternity.
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Deathwood [2012-06-16 05:59:40 +0000 UTC]
That's because Christians don't like Satan, and Atheists don't believe in him and probably don't like the idea of him (and if they liked the idea of him they wouldn't bash him). So if an Atheist would say "I HATE SATAN," then a Christian would say "Me too" so it'd be more of an agreement than a bashing.
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Sotkettu [2012-05-05 10:44:18 +0000 UTC]
Many atheists know really much about Christianity because most of the loudest religion critics are ex-Christians. Maybe because of that they criticize God, Jesus and other characters of the Bible. The Bible does not tell much about Satan so maybe because of that it is difficult to tell an opinion about Satan. If the atheists would read for example Anton LaVey's The Satanic Bible maybe they would also start criticizing Satan.
'Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!'
- LaVey: The Satanic Bible
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Rook2Pwn [2012-05-05 04:11:18 +0000 UTC]
Because god has a bigger kill count than Satan/Lucifer. I mean the flood alone killed estimates in the millions. Not to mention all the towns and cities he had raided in his name. Oh and then there are the plagues of Egypt, the dude didn't even kill the pharaoh but all the first borns. For crying out loud the guy killed children. Compared to god the "Prince of Lies" is a freaking saint.
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ceresite In reply to Rook2Pwn [2012-08-02 15:38:24 +0000 UTC]
Or because most Atheists that have half a brain don't bash anyone
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LovePikaNizzy In reply to Rook2Pwn [2012-07-21 07:44:33 +0000 UTC]
So, it's the number of killed people that matters, not why they were killed and what kind of a person they were?
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Rook2Pwn In reply to LovePikaNizzy [2012-07-21 21:21:25 +0000 UTC]
Well can you say all those people, including their children, were in the wrong. I don't know about you but there's no good reason for killing children on a massive scale. That and god, being an all knowing, all powerful being, could have you know figured out a better way to solve a problem than just killing people. It's not just how many but who did the killing. If you were a god would you solve all your problems by having people murdered in your name or murdering them yourself? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't.
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LovePikaNizzy In reply to Rook2Pwn [2012-07-23 08:15:14 +0000 UTC]
If nothing else worked, I maybe would.
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Rook2Pwn In reply to LovePikaNizzy [2012-07-24 18:11:52 +0000 UTC]
That's scary. You'd really kill your own children, as that's what god refers us as, or your own creations if they didn't obey you? I know it's funny on the sims but we're talking living breathing people, not video game graphics on a screen.
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LovePikaNizzy In reply to Rook2Pwn [2012-07-24 20:18:11 +0000 UTC]
If they were bad and causing pain or were harmful in any other ways to others, then I'd have to take them away. BUT, when it comes to use and God, there's also Jesus and the 'you have to be sorry and try to be better and you will be forgiven' stuff, which also counts. I'd probably apply that as well.
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Rook2Pwn In reply to LovePikaNizzy [2012-07-25 06:48:03 +0000 UTC]
But there are so many other things that could have been done. Like I don't know, instead of talking to one guy in a secluded place away from everybody else why not just talk to everybody. That would make so many things easier. And oh yes Jesus, that's always a good point to make. Because nothing says forgiveness like send your son/yourself to be sacrificed to yourself to forgive the human race for something you could have prevented in the first place. Forgetting the fact that raising from the grave kind of nullifies the whole martyr thing, because it's not really a sacrifice unless the dude stays dead, how about the fact that God could have done this at any point in time. Why wait hundreds of years, sending hundreds of thousands of people to the void (Because the jews don't have a heaven and not really a hell either, least in those days. Now a days I think they do, I don't know, I've never been jewish and I can only say what I've read.), only to send down a "savior" to forgive them of their sins? And on the topic of sins, why is eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil a bad thing? Why is being knowledgeable a bad thing? I would think god would want that, you know so we could comprehend his rules and what not. And on that note, why the fudge would god put a tree he didn't want people to eat from in the vicinity? The bible just reeks of plot holes, you can't go five pages without finding something wrong.
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LovePikaNizzy In reply to Rook2Pwn [2012-07-25 09:24:06 +0000 UTC]
About the tree, take it as a challenge. If you were good only because you had no opportunity to be bad, it wouldn't be the same as if you were good even though you had a lot of opportunities to be bad. There was given one opportunity, and Adam and Eve took it.
There are some things you are better off not knowing - things you'd be ashamed of, scared of, or things that would make you cry. God wanted humans to be happy. And he told them not to eat from that tree to test their obedience. And they failed the test.
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Rook2Pwn In reply to LovePikaNizzy [2012-07-25 19:17:55 +0000 UTC]
You know what, I could argue on and on about this. But I'm not going to, I'm going to walk away because neither of us are going to change our minds. It's a pointless debate, one that I've tread too many times to care to count.
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TeamShikaIno [2012-05-05 00:36:39 +0000 UTC]
Hmm.. I never realized that til I saw this stamp. It's so true, Atheists really do never bash on Satan. I wonder why....
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RainbowLitwickPlz [2012-04-10 15:39:47 +0000 UTC]
But..... people who believe in God bash atheist more than Satanist.... actually I never seen a Satanist bash an atheist before.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to RainbowLitwickPlz [2012-04-10 16:00:50 +0000 UTC]
I'm a Christian, and I don't bash on atheists. :l In fact, alot of atheists I know bash on either me believing in God or God himself most of the time. They even tell me that it was HIM who created sin. It's like Satan never existed to the atheist.
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