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First off, I want to say sorry to everyone who came across a christian who certainly did not live up to the name. I know alot of people have been hurt by political figures, church goers, historical figures, people on the street, raging preachers, sheltering and smothering parents or family members, etc. who claimed to be people of God. It's my job as a Christian to take responsibility of apologizing. It's never right for someone to go through harassment for their beliefs.Now. It's also my job to point out ANYTHING that goes against the word of Christ.
I find that many who profess to be Christians are not technically Christian at all. They either get so deeply involved in religious teachings and that their plentiful "good works" (or just plain faith) alone have put them in good standing with God. This gives them the delusion of freedom to feel like they are justified in hurting non-believers or those who go against the word of God, or even against them as a person.
Or even yet, they just use the title CHRISTIAN as a way of using fear for their goals. Let's take Hitler for example. Many people think of him as a Christian, who did some TERRIBLE things. In fact, these statements back up the fact that he was a Christian who felt justified in his actions:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter." Adolph Hitler, 1922Alot of believers who have read into their history about Hitler couldn't even believe he was a Christian in the first place, since his actions certainly did not reflect on what the bible teaches of how Christians should be.Well, turns out, he was just wearing the title as a way to gain supporters or something of the like, and wasn't truly Christian at all.
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941. "So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.There are SO many examples I could point of for today, but I don't want to make a novel. Let's get back to the point.
These kinds of people complacently remain convinced that all is well with their soul. Sadly, many will live their entire lives believing they were Christians only to one day hear these words from Jesus Christ: "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" (Matthew 7:23).
A true born Christian will strive to bring glory and honor to Christ by living a life that is pleasing to God. True saved faith will produce works or Fruits of the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer (James 2:17,26). So if there are no works of love that reflect Christ in one's life, a careful self-examination is certainly called for.
"Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?" (2 Corinthians 13:5). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, and does not reflect on Jesus's teachings, he does not belong to Christ (Romans 8:9). Thus, the term "fake Christian"is a misnomer. You are a Christian or you are not a Christian; one is either with God or against God (Matthew 12:30).
So if you are a Christian like you say you are, then show it the way Jesus intended you to.
EDIT: Now, I have to note that this does NOT mean we Christians have to be perfect. As the Christian matures in their faith, they will exhibit more and more evidence of their true Christian nature. This does NOT mean that Christians are not able to sin. The apostle John makes it clear that we deceive ourselves if we think otherwise (1 John 1:8). And when Christians do sin, rest assured there are multitudes just lying in wait to use their βslip-upβ to further denigrate the true body of believers. What Christians will not do, however, is engage in repeated or habitual sin (1 John 3:6). One who engages in deliberate and habitual sin is simply proving that he does not know Christ and therefore cannot be abiding in Him even though he may live his life under the vast umbrella of religion and is thought, therefore, by many to be a Christian.
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I know a guy who draws crosses all over himself, has a binder with bible verses, and even has a hat with ''I LOVE JESUS.'' on it, though he treats me like crud whenever I be nice to him...
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I wish Tim Tebow, Focus on the Family, and the guy running 700 Club would read this stamp
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I can't STAND false Christians!! They drive me up the wall more than disrespectful Atheists! *growls in disgust* Makes me wish I could reach through the computer screen and knock some sense into them.
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(Clap) Well said. Yeah, most people who claim they're Christian don't really live up to name. You know what's funny about the fake Christians? They're the very people that Christ himself warn us to watch for in this very day and age. In Matthew: 24 and Mark: 13 where Christ tells his disciples about the signs of the end. The very first thing he warn his disciples (and us of this day and age) "to watch out, for no one can deceive you, because there will be many that would come in my name. And boy he wasn't kidding about that first warning. Today there are many people out there who claim to be Christian, but don't act like don't act like one. Alot of them act like those Self-righthous, hypocritical Pharisees and Sadisees that keep trying and harassing Christ and his disciples. They also tend to be very mis-inform when it comes to the Lord's word too. Because of their lack of knowledge of the Lord's word, they tend to preach out crap they pull out of their butts and try to claim that our Heavenly Father or his Son said these things, but in reality, they didn't. The biggest example of the crap that these fakers preached would the wide spread false doctrine known as "the rapture".
Like you, I too got more examples of these guys... but that would be a very long explanation. Again, well said. Many people need know this.
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Hitler also had something called "the Nazi master plan" that was going to persecute Christians and to gain encouragement from the people of Germany through manipulation was part of it, he was going to wash away all Christian teaching, beliefs, etc. out of Germany and replace it with old German rituals, cultural beliefs, and ideals. And if you did go away from Christianity he would've had killed you too, he just didn't have the the chance. His problems with Christianity: the roots of it and the Almighty being from Judism, the roots of the people of the bible, and how Christianity is so multicultural having something to do with so many people who aren't just white. He wanted his own "purely raced religion" and to him the German culture, old rituals, etc, are just that. There was even a large amount of proof gathered by the Office of Strategic Serices but these
days no one cares if Christians are and were persecuted or if you place a bad person who wasn't Christian on them.β¦
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Faith in humanity = restored
I am not Christian but I adore real Christians who follow the teachings of Christ because they are some of the best people I've ever met. Hateful, bigoted, willfully ignorant fundementalists are not real Christians in my eyes.
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They are just humans, just like you and me. They want to better themselves just like everyone should.
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Hm, this reminds me of a picture I did : [link]
Anyways, Your messages&Stamps are awesome!
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I instantly faved it
Thank you!
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Usually I don't like blatantly religious stamps (*points to previous comments*), but you hit the nail on the head with this one.
Sometimes it feels like I have to steer clear of any sort of religious/spiritual discussion because somebody's going to bible-thump me out of sheer irritation for not praising God or Jesus every third sentence. Honestly. You're either a good person or you're not.
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What would make us Christian-Atheists to you? Unworthy?
Christian-Atheist - someone who believes in God, but lives as if he doesn't exist.
A true born Christian will strive to bring glory and honor to Christ by living a life that is pleasing to God.
The only person I will strive to bring glory and honor to is myself. It's hard to work for someone's ego that doesn't help you. I mean, what has God done for me? Bring life to my body? No, that was my parents and the air in the atmosphere.
If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, and does not reflect on Jesus's teachings, he does not belong to Christ
Ah, I get my answer to my first question. Even though I was Baptized in a Protestant church, I'm not a Christian. I'll go around to my family members and apologize to them for wasting their time that day.
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Unworthy? No, I think we are all imperfect.
Actually, there is a book [link] you could probably look at. Very interesting read. Made me realize all the mistakes I have made and gave me ideas to prevent them in the future.
The real deal is the need to self-analyze yourself with Christ's teachings, and if you don't match up with Jesus Christ's teachings, can you really call yourself a true Christian? That's the whole idea. If that doesn't appeal to you, tough, because it never was about you in the first place.
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The problem with fake Christians is that they've forgotten why Christ came to Earth. He didn't come to condemn people or loudly proclaim his superiority over them. He came to forgive. He came to heal. And most importantly of all, he came to redeem us all.
It's not that hard to remember.
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Most of people who call themselves Christians are arrogant and narrow-minded... But There's christians who really are caring and warm and always cheerful, like they have found happiness... Like my confirmation school tutor :3
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I find it funny that there are people saying you're wrong for calling assholes fake Christians. They use the Bible as evidence of them being right just like *GASP* those very same 'Christians" you're talking about.
So according to them the only way to be a 'True Christian' is to follow an ancient book word for word. Well I guess I better put this shrimp skewer down then huh?
There really is no pleasing some people.
A fake Christian is obviously someone who warps and contorts religion to fit their own needs. It's a person, who in their own eyes can do no wrong.
Lovely stamp by the way.
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Sorry but I have to ask this because it's a matter that I believe is important whenever someone makes the claim of "True" or "False" followers of religion; how do you know that what you do and what you believe is the actual "true" version of your religion? Certainly your version seems like the nicest and sweetest, save for the whole eternal damnation awaiting those that do not believe, but how can you be sure that it's actually the true path?
When you consider the hundred or so denominations and the thousands of points of contention with matters of interpretation, aren't you just just evoking God as an excuse for you to judge everyone else according to your personal beliefs? After all I'm sure there are tons of Christians that think you're wrong on certain matters and could pull passages out of the Bible to validate their beliefs too, so what makes your version special?
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I have to disagree somewhat.
You cannot label people 'Fake Christians" because to them, you are the fake Christians XD
If someone today burned woman that they thought were witch's they would be labeled as 'fake Christians' Right? so Historically were all the people involved in the inquisition fake Christians?
Someday people are going to say Anti-homosexual Christians are 'fake Christians'
No Christians are 'fake' Christians. They are just as Christian as you, they just interpreter their beliefs different. You know what God wants just as much as they do.
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People should not be allowed to interpret beliefs the way they want, at least not in a harmful way (e.g. believing jews are bad people just because you don't like them). And by your logic those who consider themselves good yet do evil are just as good as truly good people.
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People can believe in whatever they want, belief with faith means reason and fact is not needed. Also the 'Fake Christians' actually have biblical evidence to support most their bigoted views, hating homosexuals for example, and at one point having black slaves.
I do not care if someone thinks Jews are the devil, as long as they do not act on it or try to get laws passed. Why try to make stupid people hide their bigotry? I want to know a resist douche when I see one.
I am not talking about good or bad, Christianity does not = Good. We have definitions for good and evil, Christianity has a wide definition that involves huge sects of beliefs. When it comes to what Christians are, both good people and bad people can be Christian.
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Got lazy (I need to work on that) and didn't read the whole reply. Anything can be twisted to justify doing evil, one way is finding loopholes.
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Yeah, anything can be. But religion does not need to be twisted, it clearly is in support of some of the most violent acts ever done in history. Read the bible or ask the pope, the two 'leaders' of the religion support horrible things.
The only reason your religion is turning its back on things like marrying a rapist, keeping slaves, or murdering people who question your God is modern morality, not religious morality.
P.S I am not saying religion is Evil or Good, I am saying if someone wanted to do evil the bible would support it. Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but if you want a good person to do bad things then you need religion.
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Politics is another way to get a good person to do bad things. In fact politics and religion are the most easily corrupt systems there are, still some of those who work in politics or religion are capable of doing good. And jsyk I have no religion, but I do believe in a higher power.
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That sounds like moral relativism to me.
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You're wrong why don't you actually read the artist comment.
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Hitler was just as much Christian as you.
You focus on the good words in the bible, like loving your neighbor, and other focus on the bad things in the bible, like bashing children heads off walls. Both beliefs are Christian and in your holy book.
About Hitler pretending to be Christian, does that help your case at all?
He had to Pretend to be a part of your religion in order to get in control and kill people? XD
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You can believe what you say if you want even though it isn't true, whatever floats your boat. Not following Christ isn't being a Christian, you can't be Christian just saying you are and yeah him promising good and not telling of the sorrow he want to inflict does mean he did so. Your point? I would've been one in the camps if I was there at the time, his racist arrogant white god isn't mine just because you want him to be.
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I will believe what I say until you prove me wrong by supporting your own thoughts with a proper argument
Why do you get to decide what makes someone a Christian?
You do not know what your God wants, neither did Hitler, it is the same God you just have different opinions on what his teachings were.
Hitler read the bible and thought, Kill the Jews.
You read the same bible and think, Treat others how I want to be treated.
It is the same way with Peaceful muslims and Alkida, same God different interpretations and beliefs on that God.
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I don't the bible does. Yeah Hitler so thought that when Jesus is Jewish, and he so loved the idea of worshipping the same God as the Jews. And to me you don't follow the same God as me when you make up stuff, changed the God's ideals and teaching, and say Jesus and other prophets were white/caucasion. That being said Allah isn't my God either.
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Allah is just the Arabic word for the Abrahmic God.
Just thought you should know.
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I know that and?
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Hitler never changed the bible God ideals or teachings, he just listen to different passages then you. The bible says some bad immoral things, and some nice things. You listen to the nice, he listens to the bad, Same God, different lessons.
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Purposely misinterpreting is changing it. You can tell me who you think my God is even though you're wrong. Whatever makes you happy.
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'The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). '
All the bible references I gave you now, you purposely misinterpret, or ignore. So are you not a true Christian?
BTW, I am not saying your God is bad or Evil, like I said no one knows what God wants, no one can know, but Hitler and you think he wants two completely different things, Although you do not know what he wants, but they are still the teachings from the same God from the same book.
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God never said He or Christ were white. He never said kill everyone who wasn't white. He never said kill all the Jews especially when Jesus is Jewish. He never said white people were above everyone else. He never said a person who is with sin could cast the first stone when all mortals are born with the original sin making everyone born a sinner. Giving us and no one else reasons to cast stones.
And in the book of Judges obviously meaning when you make a vow to God you keep it. And she may have been his child but that doesn't make her a child ( a 40 year old man is an adult but somewhere out there he is someones child) meaning no child abuse and she went willing. And if he didn't do his vow it would've been his sin not hers.
And about Pslams 137:9 God didn't say to do that did he? Israel was taken captive with their children by the Babylonians in several different invasions. God was giving judgment upon Babylon for its great sin in showing no mercy when it destroyed Jerusalem and led the Jews captive. And the destruction they bestowed will be done to them by there own and his prediction being fulfilled being stated in Isaiah 13:15-16.
Hosea 13:16 hopefully you at least know Samaria is not a woman, but is the capital of the ten-tribe kingdom of Israel, and the the inhabitants of the city engaging in idolatry and failing to live up to their covenant obligations, the people revealed themselves as rebels against God and kingdoms and tribes who did so brought apon there own self destruction. Where in that does it say we could do what they did? God fortelling them what would happen and they would do it anyway.
Exodus 21: 1-11 why don't you read more? Slave in biblical use is a worker and any worker. Not someone who is only forced to work.
"He who kidnaps a man and sells him, or if he is found in his hand, shall surely be put to death." Where does that say that you have a kidnapped person and have them be your slave?
"If men contend with each other, and one strikes the other with a stone or with his fist, and he does not die but is confined to his bed, "if he rises again and walks about outside with his staff, then he who struck him shall be acquitted. He shall only pay for the loss of his time, and shall provide for him to be thoroughly healed."
Sounds like God is telling you to respect the ones who is working for you and cater to them when you harm them, when you weren't even aloud to do that.
"And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, so that he dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished."
I pretty sure thats obviously saying you can't kill them either.
"If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. "But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life,"eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, "burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."
So obviously you could use your free will to hurt a pregnant woman but God says its wrong and you have sinned.
"If a man strikes the eye of his male or female servant, and destroys it, he shall let him go free for the sake of his eye. "And if he knocks out the tooth of his male or female servant, he shall let him go free for the sake of his tooth."
This passage obviously saying that if you harm them they are free to leave.
And you never gave me those verses you said yet you say I misinterpreted before you even asked...
So you saying what Hitler and others preached throughout history is nothing but lies to me. And obvious ones, so no his god isn't mine.
And thank you for quoting mainly the Torah (old testement) to me ( you only did one new testement out of all of those verses) when the old testements is what Jews follow. But I am happy to help out my older brothers and sisters.
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I would recommend you ignore this one. She's posted the same strawman arguments on several other comments.
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I see that. I think I will take your advice, nothing seems to be getting through :/
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You mean your views and opinions aren't getting through. What are you tryng to prove exactly? That our God is who you simply want Him to be and not who we beleive Him to be?
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No, I am saying that your God IS the same as Hitlers,LIKE IT OR NOT. Same Bible, same you just look at different teachings.
But of course you do not want to admit your God is Hitlers God so you talk yourself in circles and use strawman arguments.
Ohhh and you bring up things I have never mentioned in any arguments (Such as Jesus or God's skin colour)
So arguing with you is pointless (Dammit, I am doing it again)
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I know that God's skin color etc. had nothing to do with what you said but it did with what Hitler preached. And I explained the verses from the torah you gave and you didn't even say how they would justify those actions at all. So how would it not be be misinterpreting? According to you a person is anything they say are when it could be a lie so I guess I can say I'm Hindu and believe nothing about it and worship a different god but still really be Hindu just because I say so and bring them up. Yeah you saying "your God is the same as Hitlers, LIKE IT OR NOT" totally isn't saying that you believe my God is who you want him to be and not who I believe Him to be all.
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LOL U SO RITE.
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On the bright side, it's quite hilarious.
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haha I am entertained.
but damn she keeps pestering me now XD
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Really? Where?
I'm so tempted to just go, "LOL U SO RITE," and see if it actually makes her think someone agrees with her. But it's fun spectating.
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She is responding to my response to you XD
If you do let me know what her reaction is lol!
She is probably reading this convo now -.-
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