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First off, I want to say sorry to everyone who came across a christian who certainly did not live up to the name. I know alot of people have been hurt by political figures, church goers, historical figures, people on the street, raging preachers, sheltering and smothering parents or family members, etc. who claimed to be people of God. It's my job as a Christian to take responsibility of apologizing. It's never right for someone to go through harassment for their beliefs.Now. It's also my job to point out ANYTHING that goes against the word of Christ.
I find that many who profess to be Christians are not technically Christian at all. They either get so deeply involved in religious teachings and that their plentiful "good works" (or just plain faith) alone have put them in good standing with God. This gives them the delusion of freedom to feel like they are justified in hurting non-believers or those who go against the word of God, or even against them as a person.
Or even yet, they just use the title CHRISTIAN as a way of using fear for their goals. Let's take Hitler for example. Many people think of him as a Christian, who did some TERRIBLE things. In fact, these statements back up the fact that he was a Christian who felt justified in his actions:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter." Adolph Hitler, 1922Alot of believers who have read into their history about Hitler couldn't even believe he was a Christian in the first place, since his actions certainly did not reflect on what the bible teaches of how Christians should be.Well, turns out, he was just wearing the title as a way to gain supporters or something of the like, and wasn't truly Christian at all.
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941. "So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.There are SO many examples I could point of for today, but I don't want to make a novel. Let's get back to the point.
These kinds of people complacently remain convinced that all is well with their soul. Sadly, many will live their entire lives believing they were Christians only to one day hear these words from Jesus Christ: "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" (Matthew 7:23).
A true born Christian will strive to bring glory and honor to Christ by living a life that is pleasing to God. True saved faith will produce works or Fruits of the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer (James 2:17,26). So if there are no works of love that reflect Christ in one's life, a careful self-examination is certainly called for.
"Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?" (2 Corinthians 13:5). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, and does not reflect on Jesus's teachings, he does not belong to Christ (Romans 8:9). Thus, the term "fake Christian"is a misnomer. You are a Christian or you are not a Christian; one is either with God or against God (Matthew 12:30).
So if you are a Christian like you say you are, then show it the way Jesus intended you to.
EDIT: Now, I have to note that this does NOT mean we Christians have to be perfect. As the Christian matures in their faith, they will exhibit more and more evidence of their true Christian nature. This does NOT mean that Christians are not able to sin. The apostle John makes it clear that we deceive ourselves if we think otherwise (1 John 1:8). And when Christians do sin, rest assured there are multitudes just lying in wait to use their βslip-upβ to further denigrate the true body of believers. What Christians will not do, however, is engage in repeated or habitual sin (1 John 3:6). One who engages in deliberate and habitual sin is simply proving that he does not know Christ and therefore cannot be abiding in Him even though he may live his life under the vast umbrella of religion and is thought, therefore, by many to be a Christian.
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haha, beautiful!
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Why thank you.
Oh, you meant the comment.
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haha very clever
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I think it worked.
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we need would like this out to the people rather then to here a preacher say that anything we do that makes us feel good is evil and sick if it's not pleasing to god =.=
i'm sick of hearing that my religion is a restriction of exploration of the mind and that i'm afraid of death for believing in life after death.
forgive me for refusing to believe that what i see is it!! that there is nothing beyond this point!
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Your words are kindof mingling together, it's kindof hard to make out in some places 
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so the first line was supposed to read "we need more words like this..."
the rest is a result of crap i get from others outside of my beliefs due to misunderstandings about it.
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There's no such thing as a fake Christian, just like there's no such thing as a fake White person or fake Black person or fake Arab or fake anything else.
You can't just point to these people and say, "Look, they're not really Christian, so that means that there's nothing wrong with this at all!"
Well, you can, but it doesn't mean they're not.
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Actually, according to the Christian's own religion, there are fake Christians.
We have no right to judge who is fake and who is not. That is entirely in the hands of God.
But there are fake Christians.
Fake Christians are those who call themselves Christian but do not act with kindness, humility, respect and forgiveness.
They are also those who spread bigotry, false prophecy and blasphemy.
You could argue that nobody is perfect. But one is judged not only on thier actions, but also on their intent and on their culpability.
And we can't tell who God decides is worthy of salvation of not. So we have no right to say, "I am worthy of salvation," or "You are going to hell."
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True, religion is based on culture.
But to claim that it is not a belief system would be stetching things pretty far.
To claim that there are no fake Christians would be like me saying I could call myself a Muslim and suddenly be a Muslim.
If I don't believe the Muslim theology, and I don't live by the Muslim morals, then I'm not truly Muslim.
Being born into a religious family doesn't make you part of that religion. It just inclines you to stick within the realm of what you know.
To truly be part of that religion, you must have faith, diligence, and commendable morality. And that's not something that everybody has.
Even if somebody believes in Jesus, they aren't true Christians if they contradict his teachings. It's that simple.
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I'm not having this conversation anymore. It just pisses me off, and unfortunately for you, you're within rock-chucking distance.
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Fine. Stone me, if you will.
But if you don't mind me asking, why is this topic in particular so sensitive for you?
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It's not so much the topic as the fact that it's a subject where depending on how you view it, the answer is different. I'll note you the rest.
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That doesn't make any sense, do to the fact that beliefs are a billion times different than your race...
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As far as I'm concerned, religion is part of your ethnicity. Maybe not the defining feature, but it's part of it.
I'm sick of this excuse though.
Were crusaders all fake Christians? What about the Spanish inquisition?
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Don't focus too much on so called Christians that have done evil. And the crusades and spanish inquisition were politically motivated. Also humans are capable of doing terrible things regardless of religious beliefs or lack thereof.
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When I said this, and it was a very long time ago, I meant:
Address your problems instead of dismissing it as people who follow their religion poorly. If they're using religion as an excuse, the system needs to be looked at for a reason WHY people may justify murder with their religion.
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I know it was a long time ago. And I responded because it seemed you were focusing too much on bad so called Christians. And I intend to convince as many people as possible that just because some Christians are bad doesn't mean they all are.
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The only reason I focus on it is because there are currently very many christian groups working very hard to deny people civil rights, in third-world countries and first-world countries.
And even then, I don't focus on the "good christians" because the ones who aren't bothering anyone aren't my concern. They can just keep doing what they're doing. :U
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Christians aren't denying people civil rights, and if you did your research you'd know it's the other way around.
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You're an idiot.
GOOD DAY TO YOU MA'AM/SIR.
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Looks like an insult is all you have left which can only mean you have no proof to back up your claims.
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No, but you were using this: [link]
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No I wasn't using that, that's just how you see it cause you fail to comprehend what I'm saying.
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That's because what you're saying is a) implying oft-recreated strawman arguments will ensue b) idiotic.
Don't make me get my slapping fish.
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Alright now you're just being ridiculous and desperate.
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You're really ignorant if you believe that...
You choose what to believe and you choose your actions. You don't choose your ethnicity. Your ethncity doesn't choose your beliefs. You just want to categorize people to you your liking and not to reality. Have fun with your artificial ethnicity that is full of nothing but weak minded misothimeitic arrogance.
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That's another thing. People expect certain behaviors from certain ethnic groups, but not everyone fits into those molds. Why would it be different for religious groups or nationalities? You choose to behave a certain way. Growing up you really don't choose your religion, so I consider it part of your ethnicity. Later in life you can change it, but most people do not.
I'm not categorizing people specifically, I'm saying that you can't just point to a person you don't like that still associates with you and says, "No, they're not really one of us."
Religion does not count as a belief. It's an affiliation with a group that holds a system of beliefs. Quite frankly, by the logic that someone must follow their religion one hundred percent, Christians and Jews should all be stoning people who sleep around or are homosexual.
If religion is, as you put it, beliefs, you have no way of proving that these people don't share your belief system.
And, again, explain the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition. Explain the Jewish ghetto.
As a Jew, I consider my religion an ethnicity rather than an outright belief system. I celebrate those holidays [the vast majority], and I go to synagogue, but I am also agnostic as are most of the Jews in my congregation, including one of the rabbis.
Also, trying to insult someone doesn't strengthen your argument; it's a logical fallacy.
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How much denial are you in to say you don't choose what fo believe in?
Yes you are categorizing just to please yourself but whatever floats your boat, you do that. And before you say bs about Jews and Chrisitians why don't read the Torah or bible and actually understand it. Because you're nothing but wrong. Religion is beliefs and beliving in nothing is beliefs. If someone does something I don't believe in they are not in my belief system, just because you want the to be. U mad? Oh I really have to explain a bunch of white people using a God a lot of them didn't believe in, money, politics, etc. to harm people to you how sad is that. Well miss sense you think so much about etnicity being a part of a group of people are and what you believe you have no room to talk. Your people were Nazis, slave owners, and have some of the worst people in history and Jews weren't to liked hun. Sense white/caucasion is your belief system you know sense its a ethnicity, why don't you go kill millions of native american, enslave the blacks, go to africa for blood diamonds, and rape and experiment on minorities? And sip tea afterwards with your buddies like it was a beautiful sun shining day. 
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Could you repost this without making it a giant block of text rife with emoticons, ad hominem, and internet memes?
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Calling you on your bs is ad hominem now? And was that to much for you to understand completely that I should dumb it down for you? Well to bad, you don't have a brain but you have google, do it yourself.
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I believe the trope is Goodwin's law.
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When it had to do with stamp? Whatever makes you feel special.
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Godwin's law means as soon as you bring up Hitler you lose.
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Yeah if you believe in childish logic.
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Calling me an idiot, saying 'go kill millions of native american[s], enslave the blacks, go to africa for blood diamonds, and rape and experiment on minorites,' telling me I do not understand my religion, comparing me to Hitler [which is incredibly offensive and a logical fallacy], are all examples of ad hominem.
Let me explain my logic:
Culture and Ethnicity are often linked. However, so are culture and religion. As a result of my religion, I have been brought up in a Jewish culture, celebrating Jewish holidays, and knowing that there is no "J" sound in Hebrew so it's ironic that we're called "Jews." I decided after some time that I was agnostic because religion is not my first priority in life, especially a religion that promotes stoning gays in the letter of the laws.
Perhaps you would prefer if I referred to nationality, as that is something you can change as well. If I am born in America, and I move to France and become a French citizen, does that mean I'm a fake French person? If I embrace French culture and live in France for many years, I most likely would eventually consider myself French rather than American. Meanwhile, if I moved back to America, lived in America and did not embrace American culture, would that mean I am not a real American? Even if I am a citizen?
And once again you ignore my point of the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades. Were all of those people fake Christians, since they murdered people in the name of god?
PS. It's "too" not "to."
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Believing in God doesn't make you Christian. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, no mortal is without sin so yeah what the Spanish did was wrong and not in the name of God just because they said it was, and you sit there and act as if beliefs is your ethnicity when it isn't. Since those white/ caucasions believed what they did and the things I said was right and caucasion being an ethnicity would be saying anyone caucasion believes that as well. And I don't care if it pisses you off to me you are Jewish if you don't believe in Judaism. A lot of Atheist celebrate Christmas that doesn't make them Christian or part Christian. And comparing your logic to Hitler when it was got you offended? Oh well.
* and spoting a typo aren't you special.
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You know, I wrote out a response, but then I realized something.
You don't read.
Try again after you learn to read at a third-grade level.
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I read just fine, why don't you think before you type something that is illogical. Than I won't talk to you on a third grade level, but right now I don't think you're ready.
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*Then
*End questions with a question mark
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Like I said you're not ready. But you hang in there, you'll get there.
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You should also learn to separate clauses with commas.
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See you're improving.
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You did it again.
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Your shift keys are located beneath your caps lock on the left and beneath the enter key on the right.
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And I should give a damn, why?
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It's ironic that you're calling me stupid, yet you're unable to type properly the vast majority of the time.
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