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One should not fight the freedom of speech with terror. One can not fight art with suppression.
I hereby wish to offer my compassion to all the people out there, supporting the protest against the horrible terror act which took place at the newspaper office of "Charlie Hebdo" in France, Paris.
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Okay, but it was a corrupt magazine that issued racist and homophobic stuff.
What happened to them was really terrible but personally the company was awful.
I hope they rest in piece but to be honest I don't have much respect for them. Their "humor" was downright disgusting. Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you use it to hate people. Same with how the terrorists shouldn't have preformed the attack just because they could.
This has also caused a tag going around called #killallmuslims . If you're reading this anyone, please do not cast all Muslims as terrorists it's really disgusting. It's like saying all Christians are the KKK, a terrorist organisation that get's zero coverage because they are all white Americans.
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"This has also caused a tag going around called killallmuslims."
What is "this" ?
What is your subject refering to exactly?
Your comment is absolutely stupid and you clearly know nothing about the magazine itself and their ideas.
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No need to get offensive, but the tag has been going around for a while now. It got a lot of hype when this attack happened.
I'm just saying please don't attack Muslims just before some crazy people in their culture did something awful.
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We don't. Most French people are well aware of the situation and we spread a message of tolerance and respect. I've spent the day with my pupils working on the subject and telling them the unmistakable difference between Muslim people and extremists. There's no link to draw between murderers and peaceful believers.
About the newspaper itself, you have to know that Charlie Hebdo attacked political and religious extremisms of all kinds, far-left/right wings groups, religious intolerance, fanaticism etc. It has never even been a "corrupt magazine that issued racist and homophobic stuff" (moreover, those two elements are illegal in France). We're all proud in our country to have writers, illustrators and caricaturists who have the guts to express their ideas and to highlight all the threats to our free and democratic Republic.
If I appear to be offensive, it's probably because you're talking nonsense on a topic you know nothing about. In these moments of grief and meditation, you should have taken the time to read and gather information about what happened here instead of insulting these people who were killed because of their humanist opinions and their courage.
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I was talking about french people don't worry! It was more of a global thing an people are doing it in the UK when it's none of their business.
I didn't mean to highlight those two topics but that they have produce many offensive illustrations. I was in no way offending your country don't worry dear! uvu
I was just talking about how the death was awful but the art exactly wasn't the best thing to focus on since it has caused a lot of diversity in views and lack of respect for certain religions. I myself am an atheist but I still see the sense of being offending by the magazine. The people themselves were said to be nice but the stuff produce was a little far fetched.
Again, you are saying I don't know anyway when I'm just talking about a different side to the incident. I wasn't insulting the people, but the stuff they have produced. It's not the most couragous thing to draw something that can be deemed offensive since they have targeted all kinds of people in terms of serious situations. I won't deny they tackled some issues well but a lot of the time they went TOO far
They weren't the best company in the world but in no way did they deserve to die.
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[Try to prove they're the only ones to mock those kind of things though.]
#KillAllMuslims exists because of some assholes. And it's not only due to what happened yesterday (and today).
Aaand this is why I hate humanity.
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A lot of it was trending Australia's attacked happened too now that I think about it, a lot of this just ends up causing more hype is what I'm getting at.
It's pretty disgusting how because of what a few people did, a whole subset of people have to suffer because of racist views.
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it's not really the company that matters, it's the assassination of the freedom of speech
few people actually care about Charlie Hebdo, it is the symbol that matters
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Here's something I found on an article -
"I know a lot of people are jumping on the "free speech!" bandwagon, but this really has to be into context. It's not really so much about free speech and "blasphemy." The discourse in Europe towards Muslims/Arabs/immigrants/etc. (they're all the same for many Europeans) has taken a very uncomfortable turn for the worst and we're seeing a strong backlash against Islam and immigration in many places in Europe. Islam/Muslims/non-withes/immigration are represented are being a "problem." This is in spite of the fact that Muslims/non-whites/immigrants will face intense discrimination and lack of opportunity from the broader (white) society. So you have millions of Muslims/Arabs/Turks/immigrants/etc. seeing that the political discourse has turned to them "being a problem" when they know that a huge part of it is that they really aren't being allowed to integrate by the broader society.
Those cartoons aren't simple drawings of Muhammad. There is a distinct political message behind them, and they border on being outright racist (the Jyllands-Postencartoons of Muhammad are). It really doesn't matter that the magazine is an "equal opportunity" offender, Catholics aren't a disenfranchised minority in Europe. The cartoons just added flames to an already very volatile fire. They are being willfully and purposefully offensive to an already marginalized and disenfranchised group of people in Europe."
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You think they killed Charlie Hebdo because they made mean cartoons? Come on. They did not attack Charlie Hebdo, they attacked France as a whole. Charlie Hebdo was going bankrupt, nobody reads newspapers anymore so don't tell me that they were making the society more racist.
Not to mention, their cartoons mention islamists, not muslims. Oh and, by the way: One of the their major cover showed Charlie Hebdo and a muslim kissing, above "Love stronger than Hatred"
You tell me that's racist? Okay.
The reason why they chose Charlie Hebdo and not another journal was because it was going to talk about a novel that is depicts France if it were to fall under the influence of Islamist, and as you can imagine, it was not a nice portrayal.
And anyway, even if they were racist, you think this justified a cold-blooded execution?
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Islamists and Muslims are the same thing dear. Islam is the particular religion, and a Muslim is one who follows that faith.
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Oh dear, look it up. Islam is the Faith, Muslim the average believer, Islamism political (and fanatic) Islam, and an Islamist a fanatic. It's because of people like you that Muslims are discriminated so harshly, educate yourself will you.
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dear I am educated on it. Islamist and Muslims are the same, you are confused about Extremists, and for you to accuse me of being discriminatory is ridiculous, I find their faith to be beautiful, and I sympathize with them when ignorant people discriminate against them just because of their faith.
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Great for you to be tolerant, it'd be perfect if more people were to think like you, but to settle the argument how about we just set some definition right, as they are in the English dictionary:
islam: A monotheistic religion characterized by the doctrine of absolute submission to God and by reverence for Muhammad as the chief and last prophet of God.
muslim: A believer in or adherent of Islam.
islamism: An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt toimplement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
islamist: supporting or advocating Islamic fundamentalism.
And an explanation of what Islamic Fundamentalism is can be found here: www.patheos.com/Library/Islami…
Hence the distinction I made. I support the freedom of faith and therefore, Muslims. But freedom is not compatible with the world islamists imagine, so I do not support them. Neither did Charlie Hebdo. And I think they were quite right.
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I can understand where you are coming from. However it is not for us to decide whether Islam is compatible with freedom or not. That is for the followers of Islam to decide and work out. We all have our thoughts on what should and shouldn't be.
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I used the word islamism, not islam! Stop mixing them! They are as different as "religious" and "despotic" or "fanatic"!
Islam is compatible with freedom, so long as it's not enforced: which it is in an islamist state.
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No one deserves death, I don't know HOW many times I've said that.
It still doesn't justify the amount of damage his cartoons have caused in certain cases.
No, it was expected that they targeted that one company, there are people crazy enough to do it sadly. Disrespecting religion IS a serious crime to certain people. A lot of muslims take their religion VERY seriously so that would cause an attack sadly. But of course these weren't any normal muslims, they were psychopaths.
I feel bad people have died and what happened was disgraceful. You can make racists cartoons while not being claimed as a "racist". A lot of this stuff has caused people hating on muslims and lack of wanting immigration, painting them all as crazy murderers. I'm sorry for offending anyone but what they did produce caused a lot of stress but they DID NOT DESERVE to be killed.
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they were not racists who were amalgams! they loved provocation!!
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I've seen a lot of people talk about how the company just went too far with jokes. The humour was sickening just to get a laugh out of people they targeted all sorts of things. If they made a joke that was racist, then they were racist. And they made many apparently.
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it is a satirical newspaper! So the cartoons may be a little risque but this is the very purpose of the satirical! They have attacked other religions, men .... some of their caricatures made me laugh, I do not call myself a racist, on the contrary!
however, the religions that is the burning of these cartoons were Islam, I think that's why they pretty caricatured the top! But in any case they were the amalgam!
it is interesting to have another point of view it ^^
PS: sorry for my english
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Don't worry about your english dear!
I didn't mean to offend anyone! Just that we should pay respects to the dead and not the art that caused trouble and how no one should die over something silly but at the end of the day don't say silly things in the first place. Just try and not make jokes about topics that can offend people since it can cause conflict between many.
That's for understanding! Sorry if sounded rude before. ;v;'
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Don't worry, the homage to those men and woman (artists, police, surface technician) takes place, we will not forget! everyone has the way we did (for me I burned candles in their honor)!
For my part I am someone who laughs and I accept all the differences (I am an atheist) is that this newspaper did, does and will do! but unfortunately everyone does not agree ...
And I think a lot of French is understood that one should not mix the Islamists and EXTREMIST. if there are those who make the mistake and well is that they are idiots and the racist shot
And you are not rude! just the desire to understand and share your opinion, in such times, you must!
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You are an idiot and so are all people who waste their lives in this enlightened age to look forward to the 'afterlife' i.e. those who believe in ancient religions that were created by the unenlightened people of the day. Just STFU trying to find some explanation why people who use satire to expose this ancient nonesense for what it truly is, are breaking some 'laws' for certain uneducated unenlightened people. Religious people of all faiths would belong in mental institutions in a future truly enlightened age.
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A lot of people made fun of jesus but you dont see Christians killing people for it.
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Have you heard of the KKK and westboro baptist church????
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have you ever heard of socrates?
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je suis Charlie aussi!!! What happened yesterday is so insane so "déguelasse"(dirty)...I'm deeply shocked now...I use to read this newpaper almost every week...
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Ideals and self expression cannot, should not and WILL NOT be suppressed!
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Danke German girl for your words ! ♥ You're so kind ! ;w;
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I don't know how people can support it (even the teacher do in my school) . There is a difference between saying the own opinion and making fun of something. Even when I'm an artist myself I really hate caricatures because they are mostly an attack of a group of people, religion, ethnical group or another thing. And to be honest- if I make a joke about someone's behavior or religion because it's against my moral, it's no surprise to get punished.
That DOESN'T mean that I support terror but I understand it. The primary culprits are of course the terrorists but the second culprit is the offices itself. To defend something like that it not better than the incident. Innocent people are dying because someone is stubborn and wants to publish stupid criticizing stuff and people defend the death of innocent people with their own opinion? They said "No matter how many people will be killed, we won't change our course" I mean what the hell is wrong with those people?
They don't write intilligent, high niveau articles with their opinion like "I'm /My team/ We (with source!) are against those /now insert a random person/religion/behavior/ because ...." no. They have to make jokes about other without any knowledge in a way, that can't be serious.
I know the persons here from DA don't read carefully and they will surely attack this statement because it doesn't fit to the rest but I will never support people like that, if you provoke someone, you will get your punishment or you'll live in danger
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Provoking is a way of making people think, awakening their minds
Killing someone is the apotheoses of terror and stupidity, blinded dogmatism
Charlie Hebdo criticized everybody, and made fun of everybody, including themselves
You don't like the journal? Fine, don't buy it. Art and humor are not for everyone to enjoy. You are entitled to your opinion about satyre, but how dare you say that "it's no surprise to get punished"?
Last time I checked, France was supposed to be a free country, in which your liberty only stopped when you stepped on other's freedom
How is making a newspaper, that no one is forced to buy, stepping on the freedom of others?
You know what? Fuck Charlie Hebdo. It's not about Charlie Hebdo. The newspaper was going bankrupt and nobody fucking cares about Charlie Hebdo.
It was about the freedom of speech. One of the principles we fought for during centuries, main aspect of the Human Right's Declaration.
And it states that one can think, say and write whatever he wants, so long as it does not incite violence or hatred.
Now tell me. How is a newspaper that provokes everyone and makes fun of society as a whole to shake our ideas a bit, how is a newspaper no one is forced to read, incite violence or hatred?
It's murder we're talking about. And not of those 12 men and that policewoman who died this morning of her wounds.
It's the death of our republican values that we mourn.
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"And to be honest- if I make a joke about someone's behavior or religion because it's against my moral, it's no surprise to get punished."
- In my opinion you s h o u l d be surprised if you were punished for it, because it is not
rational or healthy to expect to be punished for drawing a caricature or making a joke about someone's behaviour or religion.
I know that it is the reality we live in right now, that it might happen, a person might be punished for those things, but that does not mean that a person should expect it or that it is okay for people to punish others for what they draw or say.
A rational and healthy reaction is to start a dialogue/debate with the person who made the drawings/jokes/caricatures and see if they can reach an understanding with the person.
An irrational and unhealthy, most would say insane, way to react would be to start shooting the people who made the drawings/jokes/caricatures.
"Innocent people are dying because someone is stubborn and wants to publish stupid criticizing stuff and people defend the death of innocent people with their own opinion? They said "No matter how many people will be killed, we won't change our course" I mean what the hell is wrong with those people?"
- I wholeheartedly disagree. Innocent people are dead, in this case, because some people are "too stubborn" about what they believe is not okay to draw and what they believe is not okay to criticize.
To ask a question like you did: What the hell is wrong with those people who k i l l other people, because they feel offended or disagree with them?
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manchmal wünschte ich echt man könnte kommentare liken
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I'm deeply shocked that you understand the fact people were killed because they draw/say something. That you honestly think a slaughter is the response to some jokes, even if they are offensive. That's positively horrible.
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How can someone be shocked about empathy? What do you think do psychologists and psychiatrists do? Every person should be able to see a situation with empathy.
So if it's not, why did they do it? Just because they were bored or (best reason ever) because they are just crazy?
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Yes they are crazy. No sane person would kill an other human being because he doesn't not agree with him.
How can you feel empathy for the murderers but not for the killed one ? I have every reason to be shocked.
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That means nearly all countries are crazy because nearly all modern wars are started because of that. I have empathy for those , too. Empathy isn't mercy. I know why they are doing it but it's not logical in my opinion.
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I am not going to attack you but I am saddened that you walk that slippery slope. Humour is another form of art. It in fact can point out great foibles of power institutions more effectively than ranted anger or tired philosophical debate. They all have their place. To so fear the bite of potential truth that may be hidden in satirical humour, well those extremists called out their own weakness and ignorance and declared it true. It is not moral to say "face not the bully or you will be beaten". It is how humanity bastardizes and distorts religious power that is the target. Not any faith in god nor prophet. Those brave souls did not deserve this. I hope there is a god and the cowards one day face the reckoning for their crime against both god and humanity.
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