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'What the deuce is this. I do -not- forget anything.''Really, Holmes? Where's your Transfiguration homework?'
'Don't be silly, Watson. I know precisely where it is: between pages 214 and 215 in my Potions book.'
'...Holmes. We have Potions to-morrow. We're on our way to Transfiguration right at this moment.'
'...Summon spell, Watson. Quickly.'
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Yeah, so. I found a LJ prompt about a Holmes crossover with Harry Potter, though Watson was in Hufflepuff and Holmes was in Slytherin. I was appalled at the latter so I took a Sorting Hat quiz with their mindsets. Watson was placed correctly, but Holmes was tied between Gryffindor and Ravenclaw, right where he should be.
I deliberated for a while, and I figured that Watson, while portraying Hufflepuff-like qualities, was loyal and brave (soldier, come on?) and would definitely be the Ron to Harry with Holmes (though more brave at points, but still the 'Ok dude, let's do it' kind of guy). Holmes, while very intelligent and manipulative at points, is still the curious guy that just loves solving the unsolvable. He loves people and London and will not discriminate against anyone. That's why I just couldn't see him in Slytherin... he would be shunned for life. xD Also, I could picture Holmes being the brilliant student, but the really.. REALLY quirky one.
It was weird drawing Watson without his moustache and Holmes with his hair down.... It took forever for Watson to -cooperate- and in the end they still look more 20ish than 17-18, but oh well.... Also, after I did the background, the heavens parted and showed me that the Burn and Dodge tools were my friends for life. I don't know I tried giving them up. I had to go back and burn/dodge all the coloured layers for the boys. I'm really satisfied with the results, even if I just used the sketch layer for the outline. I just didn't want to spend -too- much time on this. I think it turned out alright in the end, yes?
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The dialogue in the description made the picture for me. I love that their both in Gryffindor.
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I'm personally of the opinion that different iterations of Holmes and Watson could be sorted into different houses. For instance, I think Brett!Holmes would be a Ravenclaw, but I also think BBC!Sherlock would be a Slytherin. (Granted, he would be rather shunned, but that's the perfect opportunity to meet BBC!John, isn't it?)
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OKAY, John looks VERY smart in his outfit thar. VERY NICE. Personally I think Holmes would be in Ravenclaw, but I also would love them to be in the same house so they could be roommates. X3
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Thanks a lot! xD
Yeah, Holmes is very difficult to separate between Ravenclaw and Gryffindor as he has the main traits of both Houses. However, I usually picture him as more of the Hermione character of Harry Potter: he's exceptionally smart, but usually seeks knowledge to quench his curiosity and to do justice. His bravery and morality kind of overrides his quest for learning, unlike his brother, Mycroft, who I would readily place in Ravenclaw. Hermione had to be coaxed into breaking the rules initially, but Holmes would have no qualms with doing so if it meant doing what was morally right, much like a Gyffindor. xD And yes, him being roommates with Watson is always a plus, haha.
Thank you for the comment!
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I'm pretty sure I have read that story too.
Appalled? Really?
The primary trait of Slytherin is ambition, not discrimination. You can have a plethora of ambition and not be a bad person or have it alter your moral compass. Just because the founder was a jerk doesn't mean all of the students sorted in are going to be. Some of them are, yes, and I am not excusing that, but there are "bad people" in the other houses as well. Besides, out of the generations to pass through Hogwarts it is statistically improbable that there have never been muggleborns sorted into Slytherin because despite past/current conceptions it has nothing to do with the house you are placed in.
Aside from that, the story was written from the modern BBC take on Sherlock, yes? Not the classic version. While I can see some of your points with the more classic takes, I think ambition is a high driving motivation of that particular incarnation of the character. He has bravery in him, but it's not what makes him do what he does, especially before he met John/when he would have been sorted. There are different types of bravery of course, but based on the characterization of the Gryffindors in the HP book series I can not see the Cumberbatch version of Sherlock being in that house. Ravenclaw, yes. Slytherin, more than plausible. Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, not so much.
That being said, the house people sort him into for these crossovers is based on the actor that they are picturing while writing it. Would the RDJ Sherlock be in Slytherin? No, probably not. And that's because the actor and director took a more action based approach to the incarnation where his bravery is placed in the forefront, because they were trying to attract a certain audience.
However I do agree that John shouldn't be in Hufflepuff, although the argument that he should be in Gryffindor just because he's a soldier is flimsy and I feel marginally (marginally) offended on behalf of every other house because that implies none of them have the capacity to be brave enough to fight for what they believe in/what is right. I do believe that putting him in Hufflepuff was an artistic choice the author made because she wanted the character to seem unimportant and fall into the background until he met Sherlock and that is unfortunate what the grand majority of Hufflepuff does. Fall into the background.
This is not an attack on your opinion, I just get bothered when people dismiss all Slytherins because of the actions of a few and like throwing in other viewpoints.
Btw, I like the picture. The attention you gave the cheekbones is very nice.
Also, the dialogue makes it.
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Thanks, I suppose. I'm really tired at the moment, so excuse me I sound a little bitchy or whatever. I was talking about a prompt that I read in passing. I may have read the story you're talking about, but I'm not entirely sure it was written at the time I made this picture. If it was, I definitely read it afterwards, but this was mainly a response to a prompt. This was also made like... a month before 'Sherlock' even came out so I didn't even take Sherlock into consideration because he didn't exist to me yet.
I didn't put Holmes in Slytherin because of the traits. If you read the original poems, Slytherins are cunning, ambitious and power-hungry. Holmes might have been the first two, but he certainly wasn't power-hungry. If he were, he would have followed Mycroft into the government and taken all the credit for the cases he solved with Scotland Yard. Mycroft Holmes, from the books, would more than likely be in Ravenclaw, though if you're basing it off of 'Sherlock', he would more than likely be classified as a Slytherin due to his power. The Holmes from the actual books is a lot more caring and less socially awkward than Sherlock from the TV series. I don't give much thought to the Robert Downey Jr!Holmes because I don't see him as a Holmes. I didn't look at any actors for this picture, it was based off what I thought of the characters when I read the books.
I don't know where you got the whole 'muggle-borns' thing out of this picture... I didn't exactly give either of them backgrounds, but they -generally- looked down on muggle-borns. I don't remember a single person from that House not sneering at the idea. I really honestly can't believe I'm fucking saying this, but I'm not objectifying Slytherins. It's been years since I read the books and I'm honestly not even that big of a fan of the series anymore. I put Holmes in Gryffindor more also for his sense of admiration for his country, his bravery and love for the people and how he absolutely hates assholes with money who look down on others simply for being who they are. He really does, trust me. Read 'A Scandal in Bohemia', near the end where the King said Irene Adler wasn't up to his class. Holmes basically agrees with him, but says it in a way that he sees Adler as being higher than the King because she gave the King up for love.
I didn't put Watson in Gryffindor merely because he was a soldier. He portrays the main traits of both Gryffindor AND Hufflepuff, being loyal, brave and hardworking. He was both chivalrous and kind. It would be very difficult to place him, but I put him up there with Neville from the Potter series. He displayed many traits for Hufflepuff, but it was his bravery and sense of justice that made him the person that he is. That isn't to say many Hufflepuffs weren't brave or didn't have justice, but I cannot see Watson being in that house. I only used the soldier line because I didn't feel like writing much more in my artist's notes because I thought it would be a waste of my time.
I don't really care if this wasn't an attack on my opinion, but I honestly don't know what points you're trying to make. I drew this months ago, but I'm glad people still appreciate it. Thank you~
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I didn't look at the dates beyond the fact that it had been a while since you posted, so that part of my comment was irrelevant I suppose.
Honestly I think the word vomit I posted was for much the same reason as you stated in your second sentence. I was tired, my day was wonky, and all I wanted was to ramble/rant about something to help clear my mind and had no one around to do it to in person. I apologize if it seemed snippy, that's my English major nature rearing it's ugly head (I over analyze everything and love doing it, so...).
I agree about RDJ and my rant on Slytherin was mostly based on two people I know ripping on the house like it actually exists and I got so sick of it that I now systematically break down every one of their arguments every time it happens. You appear to have gotten the brunt of my frustration with other people and my belief that the original poems are subjective to the society's cultural views and not necessarily accurate.
And now I'm going to stop myself because if I don't I'll address every one of your points and that's just verging on ridiculous.
And I wasn't implying that you looked at any actors for the images itself, it was the character trait interpretation I was referring to.
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Lol, that's ok. I was mainly just confused at the time, wondering what was going on. xD Thanks though!
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Just wanted to say this is absolutely brilliant! I came across the link on sherlock kink meme while reading a HP cross over and I'm so very glad that I did!
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Thank you! I'm glad you like it! (Also, I <3 that story~ ;w; )
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omg yes. i love it. XD i wasn't sure what on earth this was, but your little dialogue MADE this picture! XD
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Haha, yeah~ I love the little dialogues in my head, they just add to the pictres. xD
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The entire concept of this just makes me giggle like a silly school child. I love it!
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Hahah! Yeees, I'm so glad you liked it! xD I kept laughing in my head during it (after I cried from frustration, but yaknow).
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