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Published: 2012-02-18 21:23:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 9276; Favourites: 365; Downloads: 9
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Why should a woman be forced to carry the child of somebody who raped and disgraced her? It's her body, she should be allowed to do whatever she wants with it.Related content
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I am against selfish (non-rape, non-medical) abortion.
No. I don't know who that is.
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lol @ your signature.
No it's not legal to kill a dog, but if your dog was pregnant, it's completely legal to have a vet abort the fetuses with no questions asked.
Dogs have free will and consciousnesses, fetuses don't.
What's wrong with a "selfish" abortion, why does the fetus suddenly have no right to life if it was the product of rape? Seems you care less about the fetus and more about punishing women for having consensual sex.
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That's because people are even more fucked up when it comes to animals than they are when it comes to human fetuses. I certainly don't condone it.
You need to look up fetal development, because after a few weeks (not even MONTHS) they DO.
A selfish abortion is one done for no medical or psychological reason, one where the woman kills the baby just because she feels like not having a baby- what isn't wrong with that level of selfishness? I never said rape babies have no right to life. Simply put, the woman's rights trump the fetus' here because A- the pregnancy was out of her control, unlike with selfish-abortion. In all honesty I'd prefer if they'd not abort either- but if I were against abortion there too, people would jump my shit even more for that because of how oversensitive everyone is about rape and rape victims here- no doubt some dumb fuck would think I condoned rape or something (I don't). Our country makes frames rape like it's the worst possible thing that could ever happen to a person, and it just is not. But, people grow up believing that hogwash anyway, and so when they get raped, they end up more fucked in the head than they should be and would probably do something incredibly stupid and dangerous to both themselves and the baby once the it started developing anyway. =/
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I did, and yes, she should have had an abortion. She didn't have to die.
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Yeah, she should have. The fact that pro-lifers think she died because of some infection and think her story is propaganda sickens me.
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Oh dear. I don't support abortion, but I think that's a pretty damn good reason for keeping it legal.
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You don't have to support abortions to be pro-choice. Pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion, but more like "give the woman the rights to make her own medical decisions."
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So you support pinning a girl down, physically abusing her, make her feel like nothing, and then make her feel that dirty guilt that rape victims suffer from, essentially ruining her life, all because you think that she'll 'find an easy way out' via abortion? I fucking hope you never get a girlfriend/wife.
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I feel no sympathy for women who abort. NONE.
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That's like saying, "I have no sympathy for people who practice this specific method because I don't like it and everyone else shouldn't like it either."
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Yeah, because you fucking know how it is to carry a dommed child that you don't even want. + the child will be much happier when it isn't born than knowing that your mother never wanted you and that your dad is a rapist.
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And no, I wouldn't know what it is to have a child on the way- because I'm not a lazy, irresponsible, shit for brains.
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Are you saying rape victims are lazy and irresponsible for being raped?
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Nope. I'm not mentioning them at all.
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Are you seriously calling future moms lazy and irresponsible? IT'S HER CHILD. What's irresponsible about that? And throwing up and all the stuff with pregnancy shouldn't be called being lazy, dipshit.
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No, dumb ass. I'm calling women who get pregnant on accident lazy, irresponsible shit for brains because they fail at proper contraception.
Please stop, you're making an idiot of yourself in like every comment you make to me because apparently you can't bother to understand what I'm saying before you try to disagree with it.
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How is that lazy? I told you that if you can't gt a morning after pill or something you're basically screwed. And accidents are accidents. Do you know what it means? It means that it isn't a mistake they made by purpose.
I understand what you're saying. I understand it very, very much. That's why you're a dipshit.
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It's lazy because they were too lazy to PROPERLY use contraception. Using a condom alone. Using the pill alone. Using only one method is not enough, as pro-choicers LOVE to point out, the methods are not 100% effective- individually. So only a lazy idiot would use them individually. Anyone can get the morning after pill, you can get it without a prescription if you're over 17 (if you're under 17 you have no business having sex anyway, and only a fucking idiot would) and costs at MOST $50- which is a hell of a lot less than the $500+ you have to throw down for an abortion.
There is no such thing as a pregnancy accident. There is negligence. If you are smart, you will not get pregnant on accident- period. If you are not smart enough to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, you have no business having sex.
Obviously you don't, or else why would I have to keep repeating myself?
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So what if the woman is very sick, and it is affecting her and the baby. What if she would die delivering a sick child.
What would you do?
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What am _I_ supposed to do?
Now look, I've stated REPEATEDLY that I am only against abortions by stupid floozies who get pregnant during consensual sex by failing at birth control. I am NOT against rape-baby abortions, and I'm NOT against abortions to save the mother's life. I never once said I was against those kind, now formulate a valid argument or move the fuck on.
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In other words, you don't give a shit about the rights of fetuses, you just want to punish women who enjoy sex. After all, if you were really "pro-life" you wouldn't only value the right of a fetus when its mother wasn't raped.
No you can't kill a live dog just as you can't kill a live infant. But if your dog was pregnant you could have a vet terminate its pregnancy if you wanted, and the dog has no say in the matter unlike a human, so no, dogs do not have more rights than humans. Your analogy fails and just proves what an idiot you are.
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No. Idiot. Learn to read before you reply to me again.
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All your arguments are invalid because of "I feel no sympathy for women who abort. NONE."
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It seems that age does not determine your maturity...
Your reasoning is sickening...
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Dude, just ignore him, it's obvious that he has no sense in his brain....
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Absolutely not.
That's not the only reason, imbecile.
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Using such words is very immature. (in a bad way)
Can you not be civilized about things...?
At any rate. Saying what you said automatically makes you my enemy.
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Duh. i never claimed to be mature, or that being mature was a goal I have (it isn't).
I can, I choose not to.
Your "enemy"? Are we gonna duel with swords? Lol
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That is why I said that you are immature in a bad way.
I do not need to fight such primitive enemies.
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And I should care what you think because...?
You're hilarious. "Enemies" XD
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It does not matter.
Yes. An enemy of low priority, but still an enemy.
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Those who say that do not know what a "life" is.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Why though? What if (like me) they had tokophobia? Why should they be shunned for aborting something they cannot handle mentally/physically? Do you not think that a woman in danger of suffering a terrible condition or faces death in childbirth should be permitted to abort (or for that matter, get sympathy)? I recall seeing somewhere that you believe in such cases you don't think of abortion negatively. Has that now changed?
Not every woman who aborts a child is irresponsible, a slut, or evil. Some women cannot bear to give birth to a child that may be born with an STI or a defect, for fear of a possible shitty life for said child. Those people may try again for a child that would fair better. Maybe the woman cannot support the child and does not want their child to live a life in poverty. The adoption system is shit in the first place, so simply suggesting it isn't helpful.
In the cases of rape where the mother wants to abort the child, have you not thought of the emotional scar the child has left? No, it's not the child's fault, but being reminded daily of a horrific event such as rape can be too much for a rape victim. If you were abused or raped, and your assaulter cut you with a knife in a very visible place (forehead or cheek visible), would you like glancing in the mirror and seeing that every day? I have a scar by my eye where a fish hook got embedded in an accident, and even though it has healed and faded a bit since then, I can easily recall the fear and pain I went through that day. I can hardly imagine how such a mark can affect a victim of abuse or rape. To some women, that mark might just be the pregnancy they didn't want.
A mother that gets pregnant and gives birth should love that child and be able to take care of it. Willing and able. Take away either of those, and you find parents that shouldn't even have kids in the first place. Some parents go through with it and find they cannot take care of their kids, or something happens and they go South, spiraling down into an abusive attitude towards their children. My sister-in-law is a bitch to my 6-year-old nephew. She was young when she had him with my brother (~20-22 iirc), and was too immature to know how to fucking raise him. She only had him to seal her relationship with my brother, and has since had a daughter that she lavishes her love on. My nephew? He's a complete brat because he wasn't/isn't being brought up right. My sister-in-law shouldn't have had him because of her being a bitch. Some people aren't fit to be parents, and should have abortions to avoid being dicks to their kids. Some of those dick parents might have been denied abortions, and took their frustration out on their unwanted kids.
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You've made the mistake of assuming, that I'm against ALL abortions. I'm not. I'm against unneccessary ("convenience") abortions. Adoption is the option for them.
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Are you willing to adopt any of those kids?
No?
Then shut the fuck up about adoption. You clearly have NO IDEA how bad the foster care system can be for a kid.
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YES, actually, you thick as a brick fuck.
Shut up with your stupid assumptions about me. They've all been wrong so far, and it just makes you look like a jack ass. I have a cousin and a sister who went through the foster system, I think i have a decent idea of what goes on.
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You forget that you have said specifically none would get sympathy from you if they abort, and I have mentioned that you were ok with medically necessary abortions.
Also, my response, if you had read it, was not centered around such cases. Let's review, shall we?
-Second paragraph was about other reasons (not necessary ones) that an abortion would be done. And I quote, Some women cannot bear to give birth to a child that may be born with an STI or a defect, for fear of a possible shitty life for said child. Those people may try again for a child that would fair better. Maybe the woman cannot support the child and does not want their child to live a life in poverty. The adoption system is shit in the first place, so simply suggesting it isn't helpful.
-Third paragraph goes into detail about the emotional turmoil a rape victim might experience.
-Fourth paragraph talks about how some people should not have children in the first place, and had they gotten abortions, their shitty parenting skills would have been avoided. Of course, I do not condone forcing an abortion, but some people really should if they're going to turn out to be terrible parents. Also, some of those shitty parents might be shitty out of spite of not getting an abortion.
-And once more, the adoption system is full of shit. Kids shouldn't be put into it, and instead be taken out of it. Even if I wasn't sterile, I'd try to adopt a child, because a child already out of the womb that wasn't wanted by anyone after birth is more important than an unborn fetus that doesn't have to be born into the same situation.
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Blah blah blah, if I disregarded it before, what makes you think I wanted to read it again???
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For a 28 year old, you sure don't act your age.
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What fun would that be?
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The feeling that you are above the immature because you don't stoop to their levels. The ability to win debates or arguments because you refrain from petty insults. It's very fun to be the mature one surrounded by the immature- kids flail about calling you names, insult you for your opinion and amass an army of children that only cry to you about petty things. From your comments, I feel like you're that type of kid to a degree, with the name calling and such.
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Besides, I don't need to feel better than other people to feel good about myself.
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Not really. I've babysat before, being the most mature one in a given situation is boring and miserable.
No, I simply feel no need to restrain my language in any way, shape or form. If I feel like someone is being an ass, why would I call them anything but an ass? I am polite to people I respect, and there is no one on this website who has earned my respect. *shrug*
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