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Blunell In reply to OreoAlmighty [2019-08-03 23:07:31 +0000 UTC]

That's what I was thinking when I saw the artwork in full size. The concept is basically the same in both deviations.

But the execution differs greatly: Yuumei's version is more impactful than mine, because the haunting atmosphere and striking perspective in hers really help conveying the dramatic mood needed for that kind of work.

(And my art was really crappy back then. I improved ever since, thanks goodness! )

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Nickstah In reply to JWiesner [2019-08-03 06:20:47 +0000 UTC]

Silver lining though: in Western countries, population is declining due to secularisation and growing individualism, and in third world countries, people are having fewer and fewer kids every year due to massive improvements in quality of life. Estimations are that the world population will cap at 9-10 billion. So, according to most models, at least we won't grow indefinitely. Like I said, silver lining.
By the way, I think the problem is not just overproduction, it's the MASSIVE amount of pointless waste. A quarter of food produced in the world doesn't even reach the supermarket due to bullshit cosmetic standards, and large amounts of food are thrown away due to arbitrary sell by dates, bad portion control, wastefull cooking, et cetera. That's a quarter of the animals we wouldn't have had to feed, a quarter of the land we wouldn't have had to deforest. There was a TED talk about it once called 'The Food Waste Scandal', it was pretty eye-opening.
Same goes for plastic and other non-recyclable materials. I sometimes see plastic packaging and think: why the f*ck couldn't this be packaged in cardboard? Plastic is too cheap and too easy to produce. It is also reused way too rarely. Again, if we wasted less, we wouldn't have to produce more to make up for it.
But yeah, good luck telling the CEO/CFO of a multinational company to implement cleaner but more expensive solutions for their products...
Anyway, this turned into a rant, didn't it? Yeah...

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JWiesner In reply to Nickstah [2019-08-03 11:26:55 +0000 UTC]

You are absolutely right!

What also pisses me off is people's "garbage mentality". Not only the plastic story, which is super terrible, I also mean how people just disrespect their own homes by littering like assholes. No matter what garbage it is. Plastic, glass, cans, aluminum, metals, everything.

I'm currently working as a part-time city cleaner, and just today I was working with a colleague who was just as upset as I was about the amounts of littering- and also upset about people setting garbage cans on fire, or putting whole fireworks in them, making them explode. Like I said, assholes.

I told him about how I heard that in Japan, they teach their young children respect in primary school already, instead of the "normal" school subjects. And how there are no public garbage cans because everyone knows to take their own garbage with them. And how that system WORKS, how Japan is one of the cleanest countries in the world!

My friend said he knows about this, and then mentioned he also had a friend from Thailand come over here to Switzerland once. "She was absolutely SHOCKED to see garbage just laying around. She asked 'Don't you have cameras? (Security against littering?)' And I said 'No because that's against our privacy laws.' "

And that's what you get if you have no cameras in public places, people doing whatever they want and getting away with it. I'm all YES for cameras in public places because PUBLIC PLACES ARE NOT PRIVATE PLACES. And if you think acting like an asshole in public is okay, we better give you a fee with a proof video. Have you noticed that shops without cameras are more likely to have shoplifters? The logic should be easy to understand. If you can have a security camera for thieves, you should also be allowed to have a security camera for straight vandalism. You are poisoning the environment by littering!

Apparently, in parts of France they have both cameras and security standing around, and you get a fee for littering anything. Especially cigarette butts. Which, honestly, is what I see EVERY FUCKING WHERE AROUND HERE. 95% of our cigarette butts don't land in ash trays, just everywhere else. Even in wells with drinking water!

You know what's also sad? We got such an overwhelming amount of "small garbage" (cigarette buts, loose beer bottle lids, small pieces of broken plastic, etc), that our company GAVE UP picking those up. The rule became "Pick up the big things. If we pick up everything, we're gonna stay here forever." And you can bet your soul that the same amount of litter will be there again tomorrow. By the time we are 50% done cleaning every little thing, the same amount gets re-littered on the road we've just cleaned, and it will look the same as before.

I'm disgusted by people and I have given hope for a better tomorrow. Now that I am a city cleaner, I feel like vulture who tries to clean up the mess of others, who is looked down at, who is rarely said "Hello" or "Thank you" to, who is treated like the garbage that people leave everywhere. Even though cleaning up is so fucking important for literally everyone's life. But how many people are truly respectful and clean today? And how many people are clean and respectul WITHOUT the presence of security people against littering?

But I still appreciate people who believe in silverlining and happy endings. If I get 100% depressed, I'm only gonna commit suicide. So I must not be more than 99% depressed about all this bullshit going on in the world, haha.

Yay, this turned out to be a rant too. :'D

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SwitchetO In reply to SwitchetO [2019-08-03 01:37:36 +0000 UTC]

Because of the guilt not the art itself, the art is fantastic and depressing 

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