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Hancock Tower. Boston Massachusetts.Related content
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zandrfoo [2005-06-21 03:00:55 +0000 UTC]
border: tried about 20+ different ideas (including those mentioned) and hated them all. mostly i hated the aesthetic of it but also it messed with the concept (as i see it) way too much.
as for the rest: it seems that every one who has seen this and commented has taken a different meaning from it and all of them different from mine. though this was not my original intention, i think it is fascinating. to me, that makes this an overwhelming success.
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sonofsanta [2005-06-21 01:08:44 +0000 UTC]
First things first: my border recommendation would be a super-thin black line, cos youve got a few of them in there anyway, and personally I think a border would add to the message, that while success is all well and good it does trap you, contain you, limit you - you're no longer your own person.
Love t3h sharpness, feels like it needs more grain though, perhaps it's just cos I hate all the smooth architectural stuff floating about, but grain gives things more of a reality, more of a texture. In a way, it almost represents the tiny little tasks that make up each little step on the way to success.
I like the big black trench, just waiting there for people to fall into, climbing up the ladder but failing when they think they're safest. The fact it ends at the top almost shows how at that level, failure is virtually impossible - by that time, you know what you're doing. At least, I'd like to think you do. I suspect a lot of people who are successful don't.
The orange in the sky bugged me at first, but it kinda represents the next step, the ascension if you will, you can only go so high along the path that society builds, you have to make that final leap yourself, and there are few that do. As you'd pretty much have to jump off the building to an impossible height to get there too, it adds in an element of self-belief that you need for success.
Cripes. All that from a yellow building.
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zandrfoo In reply to sonofsanta [2005-06-21 03:02:36 +0000 UTC]
man, i know i should go to bed when i cant for the life of me hit the damned reply button.
anyway here it is:
border: tried about 20+ different ideas (including those mentioned) and hated them all. mostly i hated the aesthetic of it but also it messed with the concept (as i see it) way too much.
as for the rest: it seems that every one who has seen this and commented has taken a different meaning from it and all of them different from mine. though this was not my original intention, i think it is fascinating. to me, that makes this an overwhelming success.
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sonofsanta In reply to zandrfoo [2005-06-22 03:21:50 +0000 UTC]
It takes me forever to reply to stuff sometimes
If a border doesn't work, it doesn't work, so sod it.
Seeing what everyone else sees in the photo is the good part of dA, definitely because, as I say far too much, art needs context - and depending on your circumstances, you're gonna see different things. I think looking at other people's photography tells you as much about yourself as your own does.
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isuandrew [2005-05-04 01:21:23 +0000 UTC]
Great shot, I love the lines. It is a great perspective. Itβs very clean and I like the color a lot. It gives it a futuristic look.
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sucadu [2005-04-13 14:59:45 +0000 UTC]
cool perspective. it makes me feel so small...
well, I am small...
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Alter8Ego [2005-04-11 00:18:53 +0000 UTC]
One knows they have completed the cycle of deviatization once they encounter a photo like this and go :"oh wow yet another perfect example of fine architetural photography with deep conceptual connotations of sublime meaning" .
Cynicism aside, I actually do enjoy this capture greatly, because it is oddly well exposed and composed. There are highlights on the verges of clouds in the sky, and yet there was no loss in detail on the fasade of the building.
The perspective was very well aimed, eliminating all surroundings, which makes it all about the concept, rather than the subject matter itself.
The golden tone associated with the title, unquestionably implies the visual symbolism of an ascending pyramid of accomplishments, piercing the sky, each new row of the exactly identical cubicles, stacks up another perfect milestone of this pillar of success.
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zandrfoo In reply to Alter8Ego [2005-04-11 00:57:40 +0000 UTC]
when i took this i figured it would be pretty clichΓ©, and in fact that is what made me take it. the clichΓ©-ness (i think) is that last finishing touch that makes the concept whole. there are admittedly some framing detail issues that make me very much want to march right back downtown and shoot it again though. i actually chose the sepia for its dirty industrial tone and didnt think of that bronze age agenda that you point out. it always fascinates me when other people see meanings in my work that i neither intended nor was previously aware of but that are perfectly valid. thanks
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gewitter-im-anzug [2005-04-08 10:59:12 +0000 UTC]
i like it even without a border.
i think a border makes it too small for something that is borderless. cities have no border. and so this pic doesn't need one, i think.
i'm not sure about the colours. i like the orange, but i'm more into this anti-photoshop-thing. i like, if something looks real, without adding tragedy and melancholy through colours.
but it's the decision of each one who takes pictures, how to handle with them.
and so, your choice. after all: it looks good.
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zandrfoo In reply to gewitter-im-anzug [2005-04-08 12:26:32 +0000 UTC]
i definitely hear you on the anti-photoshop thing, for a long time i woulnt even touch color film forget about digital manipulation but lately i got bored and decided to experiment a bit...
still, a lot of the stuff i end up doing in photoshop i'd do in the darkroom (if i had access to one) for example this one just has some contrast enhancement and a sepia tone (both of which are darkroom-able techniques) which was (i think) conceptually necessary.
Again though, i totally agree with you in regards to photoshop... i havnt really been liking the results of most of my experimentations... granted ive only been poking around at it for a couple weeks... i should probably be more patient...
anyways, thanks for the input, definitely apreciated.
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epylesdotcom [2005-04-06 01:26:50 +0000 UTC]
nice, good perspective, would look nice with a black or white border i think too, looks like film too so props for that.
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zandrfoo In reply to epylesdotcom [2005-04-06 01:36:22 +0000 UTC]
t'is film indeed and yes i do agree about the boarder thing... tried a black one, tried a white one, tried ones that fade this way and that, different sizes, etc. but i just couldnt come up with one i liked so i compromised and just left it boarder-less... plus i think it kinda gives it a sense of infinite space... i dont know, maybe im just rationalizing
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DevilMayCry2550 [2005-04-06 01:13:44 +0000 UTC]
thats tall....but id agree that the best object to represent achievment is a tall skyscraper. kind of like how you have to make it to the top. cool stuff.
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charris [2005-04-06 01:10:37 +0000 UTC]
The yellow adds something to the picture, but what about if it was blue instead of yellow? Or orange...
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zandrfoo In reply to charris [2005-04-06 01:31:48 +0000 UTC]
check it: [link]
i chose the sepia tone in this for the "smoggy" "worn" "industrial" quality it adds to the shot. the building itself is a beautiful blue that can be seen in the above link. i did experiment with some different tones and they all had very different feelings. this one, and the subtle undertones it gives, i felt fit the concept i was going for the best though. so yes i totally see your point
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