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zarla — Abusing your powers
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Published: 2018-12-20 04:44:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 68969; Favourites: 3326; Downloads: 94
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Someone was wondering if the brothers could summon magic hands like Gaster , so of course this is the first place I went to. Seriously though, I think it's a skill you have to learn and Gaster never taught them how, haha.
On an unrelated note, I'm going on a trip tomorrow up until the New Year! So you won't hear too much from me while I'm gone. I'll probably put up something on Christmas and MAYBE I'll finish a Handplates page but I wouldn't count on it, haha. I'll see you all in January.
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Sans, Papyrus (c) Undertale: i actually never heard of this game until recently
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It is a known fact that sarcasm/jokes do not translate through on text.
Try to learn what intent is, along with how to view it from another's perspective.
Y'know, instead of arrogantly assuming someone is stupid.
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1) I didn’t mean to call anyone stupid and I didn’t assume so either. I’m sorry that it looks that way; I was having a really bad day and I was tense >~< I’m pretty sure it was 2 am for me when I wrote that reply XD and the tension had been building up all throughout the day
2) the context should make it obvious, though...
3) You probably shouldn’t tell someone not to assume someone is uneducated if you assumed that I was uneducated first
4) I know how to look through other people’s perspectives. The reason there is an excessive amount of question marks on the comment is to show exaggeration and to try to make it more clear that I’m not being fully serious
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To be fair, I thought you were serious too. You didn't really make it clear that you were joking.
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the worst part is pap can't actually hit sans or else poof
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LMAO!
I laughed way too hard at this.
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Hey jerk, how about you stop blowing off your fans and have some humility?
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You are very smart and normal. I too can not comprehend this bizarre, alien notion of "occasionally going on a trip to interact with the real world and not exclusively post fanart as my sole means of communication". Alas, it is too wild and complex a concept for either of our giant, extremely usual brains. Cheers, my comrade-in-very-average-arms!
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Have I not made myself clear?
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Yes, after scrolling down I do see what your problem is. You are apparently completely ignorant to the fact that people, do in fact, have lives and can't reply to the hundreds of comments they receive.
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And yet another sheep falling for the same tired excuse. It does NOT take that long to reply to comments.
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First off, I am not "another sheep falling for the same tired excuse". I am simply using common sense and logic.
If there's a only a few comments, then no, it usually doesn't take long. I can reply to most comments since I don't get many. However, I do not reply to all of them simply because there are some that don't really need a response. That doesn't mean that I didn't read it and it certainly doesn't mean that I don't give a shit. Zarla gets a lot more comments than I do and it can be tiring to reply to hundreds of comments at once, along with the notes she most likely receives as well. Not only that, but she probably doesn't have a lot of time due to school/college. She might also have a job, which would consume even more of her time. Demanding artists to reply to every single comment they receive is unrealistic. You also seem to be a bit of a hypocrite. You expect people to reply to every comment they get and yet, you don't do the same. You don't reply to all of your comments either, despite having fewer watchers and receiving less comments than the artists you insult.
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I saw this conversation while passing through comments, and I’d like to usher you to try to see it from the artist’s perspective- you have different types of artists who engage their audience in different ways, depending on their following and their personality and boundaries.
Some are very active and respond to every single comment. This is easy for artists who are either more outgoing and extroverted, or artists with a smaller following that they can respond to and manage easily.
Some like to respond in generalized posts for all to see, touching base on common questions asked, or drawing a reaction image to a common what-if fans want to see. This is better suited for artists with a much bigger audience, like Zarla and others. They do this so they can acknowledge their followers still, but not spend hours replying to what can add up to be thousands and thousands of comments individually.
I used to be a relatively well known artist in an online community, and I worked myself down to the bone trying to satisfy and reply to all of my audience. It was exhausting, anxiety inducing, and it took major tolls on my mental health. Especially once I stopped, and many people like you came to me and called me selfish, rude, etc. even though I spent hours just to share art with them and keep them happy. It degraded my self-esteem, and made me wonder if I was worth anything at all.
I had about 200ish followers on that site? Zarla has -many- more than that. They are not using or abusing us, they are keeping their boundaries to stay in a healthy place, while still engaging with their audience that works best for them. They do have humility- they have never been one to flaunt or take advantage of any of us, and respect our time. They even warn us when they’re going to be busy, or have things to do that may keep them away for a while. They let us know so we’re not hanging in anticipation for something new, only to be disappointed when nothing is posted. They are doing what they love, and are sharing their passion with us.
If you took the time to read and consider that, thank you. I understand why you are upset, but again I urge you to try to understand the artist’s side and sympathize with their situation.
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I understand what this sort of argument is trying to say, and I could accept that, but when the artist isn't replying to ANYONE? Not giving anyone a chance to be noticed? What is the point of even posting at that point? To be selfish and advertise commissions?
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Ah, but there comes a new handful of problems- Causing the illusion of favoritism, and an issue of genuineness.
When you reply to some among so many, then you have people who come in and think, ‘why wasn’t -I- responded to?’ It causes more discontent, especially when one believes that their comment is more deserving of a response than another and feel as though they’ve been completely overlooked.
Another thing that starts to come up is the difficultly to say genuine and unique things after replying to so many. Over time, you feel like you’re starting to say the same thing, over, and over, and over again. Even when you word it differently, the artist can experience a desensitization to the meaning of their own words. It no longer feels genuine, even when they truly are grateful and trying to reach out to their followers. This phenomena can happen to anyone, especially to those with larger audiences. With it comes the sensation of guilt, anxiety, and most importantly -loss of voice-. The loss of impact in meaning can effect people greatly, and wonder if they’re truly connecting with anyone at all.
You bring up that no one has the chance to be noticed because they aren’t being replied to. It is to be noted that this artist -does- notice many of the commenters’ queries, and make posts such as this in response. Usually these in-between posts in the Handplates! plot are in response to comments and musings of the fans. In the description, they’ll start with ‘Someone was wondering if...’ or ‘Someone brought up this idea...’ and share their response via the drawing. Zarla speaks to their followers through the drawings.
Artists don’t owe anyone anything, unless of course they are paid to do commissions, which isn’t the case here. The occupation of an artist is to merely bring ideas to life or express emotions through what they create, and they can share it with others if they choose to. A lot of times, artists only draw for themselves, and keep their art to themselves. Zarla actively shares their art with us for our entertainment, and even incorporates the fans’ ideas and musings into little sideplots or one shots like these to engage us. Zarla notices and acknowledges us, they just choose to speak and engage with us by continuing to create and share with us, rather than using direct words.
A lot of times, especially for the introverted ones, artists turn to art because they have trouble expressing themselves, their thoughts, and emotions via words and direct contact already. Yet another reason why this artist may be choosing not to directly engage. If you still find this kind of behavior selfish, then I believe you may be misunderstanding a great portion of artists who communicate in this way.
If you are still not swayed, do you mind listing out what exactly you find is selfish in their behavior, and what is wrong with my reflection?
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Accidentally posting on your sock puppet account or?
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Hey jerk, how about you stop asking someone who’s doing people a service to blow off their family and social life? If you don’t like the way Z does things, why are you here? Artists aren’t slaves.
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What I am referring to would take mere minutes. Replying to their fans' comments. I don't get why you just blindly defend someone without even knowing what I am talking about.
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Not when hundreds of people comment on her art and profile. It can be tiring replying to that many people. Not only that, but she does have a life and is busy, It doesn't mean she doesn't give a shit. Maybe you should actually try to see it through her perspective instead of being an ass about it.
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Oh, I’m sorry, are you butthurt because Z doesn’t have time to answer literally hundreds of comments per post? I don’t get why you feel the need to “call people out” like you actually have any insight into the life of a stranger on the internet.
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You are obviously a fan of this pompous jerk. I'm quite disappointed you seem to be okay with a no name artist on the internet acting like they're a ~busy celebrity~ and can't have some humility and reply to the comments from their fans.
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It’s Zarla’s choice if they don’t want to talk! Perhaps she doesn’t talk in her comments because of jerks like you who assume everything so quickly. I’m sure Zarla is a great person in reality. They aren’t obligated to reply to anyone.
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You do know zarla still answers our questions, right? You have no reason to be a butthurt asshole to people who are busy. If you look at some of her Handplates side comics, old questions were answered. ZARLA HAS A LIFE. YOU NEED TO GIVE HER SPACE. She doesnt act like a celebrity, or brag. You wont see zarla going "Oh! Look at all my fans!"
Plus, you weren't held at gunpoint, were you? You didn't have to be butthurt, you could've just skipped through her comic and gone on to the next. Nothing MADE you comment, you just wasted your time by commenting on this comic. Not to mention you're going to get schooled by fans of hers, so you're the one who's being a pompous jerk. Back the fuck off, would you?
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Sorry, I don't speak immaturity. Speak to me again once you grow up!
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Last I remember, you were the first one to name-call. So I can say the same for you
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Not to mention, she answered a question WITH THIS COMIC. THE VERY ONE YOU ARE ON!
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Yeah, that’s why I’m here. Why WOULD you be here if you weren’t interested in what she was posting? To be a pompous ass on profiles you haven’t already been to? What makes you think that your holy duty is to give other artists low ranking critiques and judge how other people handle their fan base?
Guess what? PEOPLE ARE BUSY. There is zero obligation to reply to comments. Literally none. No artist owes you anything.
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Are you trying to change the subject? Since you HAD to bring it up, those artists asked for critiques and I was being nice by offering my advice. The critique tool only activates if the artist asks for it.
I am not interested in this artist, I saw them on the front page and lo and behold, its one of THOSE posters who lack humility.
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Nope, just making sure everyone in the comments know what a buttmuffin you are without having to give your profile a look for themselves.
Cool, those guys asked for critiques. You know who didn’t ask for your crappy attitude? Anyone here in this comment section. You’re the one complaining about Z not replying, but no one else seems to take issue with that, that I’ve seen. Stop white-knighting for things that aren’t even problems to the actual fan base and go bother someone else.
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Pot calling the kettle black? You're the one white knighting here. This was none of your business and you had to come and be obnoxious towards me because I dared to criticize the artist you worship. The artist is posting on a public forum, if they don't want to get called out for lacking humility maybe they should rethink how they treat their fans.
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Like I said my dude, buzz off and bother someone else. You pompous behavior and lack of maturity aren’t really getting you anywhere, I’m sure.
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whoa partner, what's got your panties in a bind
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This artist is abusing their fans - never replying to their comments. It makes me sick!
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It's really not that big a deal
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Sounds like something someone who ignores their fans would say...
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apologies if i'm not quite understanding the whole situation here but...
you know that's not abuse right? abuse is when you either 1: using something to do something bad (like abusing your power to get your way with something) or 2: treating a person or animal repeatedly or regularly with (usually) violence.
not replying to comments is not abuse or neglect. Nobody is dying because they aren't being responded to.
And as Mangascribbler said, artists are not slaves that work day in and day out to please others. We all have lives outside of the computer or sketchbook do we not? Some of us have work and others have school they need to attend or possibly both! not every artist has all the time in the world to respond to every comment they receive and no artist has to respond either.
And have you even looked through all the comments? everyone seems happy do they not? (except maybe the chosen few who hate on art or others etc) clearly, if this was abuse or neglect everyone in the comments would be angry or sad right? in fact, why would they even be here if it WAS abuse!!??
Maybe they just really like the rush of being used to boost the artist's ego idk. (joke btw lol)
Again, sorry for just barging in this conversation, I just felt things needed to be straightened out because I don't think you quite understand the situation at hand.
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As I've said, I could accept the "too many comments!" excuse if they bothered to reply to anyone at all. What is the point of publicly posting art if you don't give a hoot about your followers? To advertise commissions?
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1: One reason for posting the art (the main reason I joined in the first place) is that you just want to. you want to share your work with the world and learn how to improve it. Does that mean you HAVE to respond when you get criticism? No you don't. If someone leaves a comment, criticizing your art you don't need to respond (especially if it's not criticism at all and it's just people leaving an opinion). All you have to do is take that information to heart and you can improve.
2: (This one follows the one above) IF your only goal is to improve your art then responding to those who don't leave criticism would seem like a waste of time. And before you respond and try and say "Then that's abusing the people who don't "help" the artist!" it's NOT abuse! and just to be on the safe side, I will provide the EXACT definition(s) for abuse
(1) use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse. "the judge abused his power by imposing the fines"
(2) treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly. "riders who abuse their horses should be prosecuted"
3: They simply could just not have the time to respond at all. There's no way to tell how busy someone truly is but there could be several different personal reasons that they just can't tell thousands of people on the internet. The main ones being that they (the artist) could be struggling mentally or physically and needs treatment for it or they have a friend or family member that's sick and possibly in the hospital. (please keep in mind that these are only examples, I'm not saying the artist is actually suffering like this)
4: Responding to others can be really stressful sometimes. Not everyone on the internet is a social butterfly, and needing to respond can really take a toll on these kinds of people. (And PLEASE don't say "then these kinds of people shouldn't be on the internet at all" because while I would understand where you're coming from, saying something like this would be directly and indirectly harassing them)
5: Perhaps they only wish to post their art for entertainment purposes. I know this was another reason I myself wanted to post online. I wanted to post my art for other people to just enjoy, ya know, have something nice to look at and maybe something to get a laugh out of. I know I branched out but many artists would stick to this sort of thing (this is what I feel may be this artists main reason).
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Now, I'm going to wrap this up as I'm quite fed up with you overall. But I'm not going to leave without saying a couple more things.
I have noticed that when you responded to Flyingshadow451 conversation with you, you responded with the exact "being selfish and advertising commissions". And to think it was another well thought out response that made sense... Running out of excuses perhaps?
When you responded to SoaringHeights you said and I quote "Sorry, I don't speak immaturity. Speak to me again once you grow up!" (I'll come back to that in just a moment) and while I do agree they could've handled the situation better, their overall argument made sense. It almost seems like you're trying to avoid the truth.
Finally, coming back to the "immature" part, the first comment that started all this pointless drama in the first place was the one that YOU yourself sent! The comment itself said and I quote "Hey jerk, how about you stop blowing off your fans and have some humility?" Now, how about I tell you all about how IMMATURE this is!
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First of all, coming in and calling someone names is immature. Whether they have done something wrong or not, it is still wrong to come in and call someone names because of it. All situations should be taken care of in a calm and mature manner.
Second of all, coming a ACCUSING someone of doing something without SHOWING proof is also immature!
Blow off definition: to refuse to take notice of, honor, or deal with
I have personally gone through some of their work to see if what you said is true and in fact you're not. While the artist may not respond to the comments directly, they have responded to questions (and other things) through the descriptions of their work. I will provide a couple of links so you can look yourself.
Stop kicking me
Surprising tensile strength
Gimme that cake
With a resounding splap
You can find even more stuff like this, but this is DIRECT PROOF that the artist is in no way "blowing off" their fanbase. They are clearly taking notice of what people are saying but are just responding differently than what people are used to.
And FINALLY, are you aware that this first comment you posted is a form of harassment?
Harass definition(s)
(1) subject to aggressive pressure or intimidation. "a warning to men harassing women at work"
(2) make repeated small-scale attacks on (an enemy). "the squadron's task was to harass the retreating enemy forces"
Harass synonyms
Intimidate, Bully, Attack
If you look into the definitions of the synonyms (specifically attack an intimidate) you will see that this first comment was indeed harassment of some kind. While not overly aggressive, it is painfully obvious that you are attacking and attempting to intimidate them into getting them to do what you want, in this case, getting them to respond to comments.
Below I will provide proof of the comments that you have sent
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Proof that you have sent the exact same excuse to 2 different people (should've included the second person I'm realizing but you can clearly tell that this is two separate comments)
Screenshot 2018-12-21 at 1.52.20 PM
Screenshot 2018-12-21 at 1.51.33 PM
Proof of you calling SoaringHeights immature
Screenshot 2018-12-21 at 1.51.50 PM
Proof of the first comment YOU sent causing all this drama in the first place
Screenshot 2018-12-21 at 1.51.12 PM
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Now, if you have read everything then perhaps you'll take one good long look at yourself and realize YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. YOU are part of the reason we can't have anything nice on the internet! And don't you DARE come back with some excuse that you've done nothing wrong. The proof's in the pudding honey. I have proved SEVERAL TIMES here that the artist is INNOCENT and that the artist is NOT ABUSING THEIR FANBASE. Now, how about you do everyone a favor and either
1: change your ways or 2: get off the internet because to put it simply, we are all sick and tired of people like you coming to get your 5 minutes of fame.
Thank you for reading and I apologize for being quite harsh. I'm just VERY annoyed at the fact that you seem to be completely oblivious. I hope you have horrible but okay day
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Also, just to add the cherry on top...
Screenshot 2018-12-21 at 2.36.03 PM
Mind explaining this? Wish to continue calling us all "immature"?
A literal "Trash Pile Alert"!?!?
Are you even AWARE of how IMMATURE this is!? not only is it immature, but it's harassment as well! There's a fine line between calling out and warning others about a bad person and straight up harassing them. The way you are treating these people is absolutely disgusting whether they have done what you have said or not.
You want to know what I think? I think you are a whole lot worse than you and others may think.
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I completely agree with you! That person is acting like an immature child, honestly. People do, in fact, have lives.
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yea, this is a major pet peeve of mine. I'll never understand why people think that just because artists post online or whatever that they have no lives and that they are "made to please"
it really upsets me that people think this way.
but of course things about this in my comment were a bit exaggerated for this particular person since they aren't directly (maybe indirectly) saying this. I don't wish to point fingers or make this person out to be a whole lot more stupid than they currently are being but I thought it would be at least a good point to get across so they understand what they're saying makes literally NO SENSE.
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Wow, those are some pretty great points! I think you handled this one pretty well!
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thank you, I did my best to keep myself calm and things accurate. I don't wish to stir up more trouble than is already being caused but I just REALLY DON'T like these kinds of people who seem to feel that every artist is forced to do what the public desires instead of living their life with family or friends or even spending some time to just relax! (exaggerating a bit for this particular person but I know for a fact others feel exactly this way about artists)
This is probably my main artist per peeve tbh
anyways, apologies for the small rant I hope you have a good day my friend! and please try not to be like these kinds of people ^
we have more than we need ;w;
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