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Published: 2012-12-29 02:16:43 +0000 UTC; Views: 2059; Favourites: 41; Downloads: 0
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An offshoot of a request made by the main primary prompts of this request, to put it simply, were Van Kleiss, Full-length-mirror, and haircut. So I decided to do an 'aftermath' scene based off of 's Fusion Fall story: Gat.Basically the cause of this particular scene can be summed up to VK attempting to attack Spidermonkey, aka Ben10, from behind and getting a great big glop of webbing stuck to his shoulder and, much to his agitation, his hair.
I hope this works for you ShugoJess, even if it's not exactly the way you originally wanted it. I had a really fun time with it.
Edited Jan. 01, 2013: Darkened in his pants to a more accurate shade. Not quite so blinding now.
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Nope, not in the least! ^_^
Thus, drastic measures MUST be taken!
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Glad you enjoyed it ^_^
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That's for sure, fortunately they're respective 'niches' in the FF universe means they'll cross paths only on rare occasions. Probably spanning over years rather than weeks/months. Still...when they do, it'll be an over sized mess, just like in Gat. Hm...makes you wonder which is worse: Rex regularly running into VK and the Pack but things being sorted out alright and fairly quickly; Or Ben and especially Dexter (who hadn't seen VK in years and then wham!!) and a complex slip-and-die-painfully or worse.
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It's probably less painful to get VK in a lot of of small doses versus one big one.
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Most likely, kind of like getting an immunity to snake venom, yes? Also, one big one implies that he spent a lot of time preparing specifically for the person getting "one big dose". Which implies that, unlike with Rex's little encounters, it's going to hit hard and fast and be like trying to yank free of a spider's web. Extremely difficult. Not impossible, just almost.
Fortunately our heroes have the "luck of the devil" when it comes to getting out of such situations. Other people wouldn't be so lucky.
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And he knows all about spider webs at this moment!
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Yup, stronger-than-steel spiderwebs. Makes one wonder what those scissors are made of, then.
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haha Ben's such a little asshole sometimes XD though his poor hair -dies-
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At least it's just a trim to get the worst out. The original request involved giving VK a full bob-cut *shudders*
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ich that would not look good on Kleiss nopenope
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Actually, the one who made the request made it work on their own art: [link]
But then...it doesn't really look like the Van Kleiss we've all come to know. So I suppose the effect is rather mixed.
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yeah haha, my redesign on Kleiss made him have even longer hair XD
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I just took a look at your Van Kleiss redesign and I must say: It is creepy as hell, yet extremely fitting. I really like what you did with the gauntlet. Most realistic take on it yet, I think.
((About his brown coat...maybe he owned it before the nanite event? And he just wore a lab coat while working on the project? Evidently there must be a supply somewhere because he got an exact double (tattered edges and all) before he made it back to the 'Present'))
Also, I think maybe we have a difference in how we perceive colors, and the lighting atmosphere we usually see VK in. I think his coat is brown but shines reddish in certain light and that his pants are tan, and thus look lavender/purple in places like Abyssus or otherwise dark and/or underground I think he has a light aversion, we rarely see him in the day time...
And I should probably shut up now, sorry for rambling.
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Haha thanks!
Well I base my colors off of the characters design pictures. Kleiss's are based on these [link] [link] [link] [link]
because picture like those are supposed to not have a determined light ambiance to them because they are used as reference or basic profileing, so he really does have purple pants and a (burgundy?) jacket. But who knows.
lol it's perfectly fine to ramble I love having conversations like this XD
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^_^
Hm...I use those same pictures as references but I see different colors. Warm brown for the jacket (which I color in with sharpies and thus don't have a name for that particular color. I'll have to check at the office supply store next time I go in.)and a darker warm grey for his pants. I also looked up tan military cargo pants online and saw a couple that certainly seemed similar in shade as VK's.
Of course, that we rarely see Van Kleiss in good light ((literally, have you noticed how dark the atmosphere is whenever he's on screen? Sans a few exceptions)) doesn't help us identify the colors he wears.
Yay! I've had people scold me when I go on a ramble of thought-to-screen without real self censoring. Nice to know you enjoy that kind of thing.
Oh, out of curiosity, where did you hear that VK's name meant Of the Earth? I already knew, I'm just curious to kknow how you learned it.
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I've finished and scanned the lineart of my take on your VK Re-Design. Should I post it?
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Yeah, I guess it just depends who's looking at it. XD
That's true, mostly because of his darker personality and in Abyssus it's always cloudy I've noticed, I think the debris from The Even hasn't cleared away yet. Clouds from those kind of events take years to dissipate, which could also mean it's rather cold and snows a lot in Abyssus. -shrug-
lol it's ok
I forgot where exactly I heard it, but I think I looked it up on google or tried to translate it at some point.
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Always cloudy and casting a reddish tint to everything. And cold and snow would be a reasonable explanation for the coat in the first place. From experience I can say that long coats are very warm, especially if made from leather and not some kind of plant or synthetic fibers.
((Which brings to question: what kind of material do you think that coat is made of? Not including when VK was one with Abyssus, I'm talking about prior the event and after Rex cured him. Some kind of suede leather maybe? Cause suede doesn't shine.))
Ah, I did the same thing, then posted my findings on his profile on Wiki. ((Then someone went and re-worded it on me >_<)) Caused me some trouble initially because I thought 'Van Kleiss' was German, turned out it was actually Dutch.
Speaking of languages, what nationality do you think VK is? Mainly, where does his accent come from? Elecktrum/Lightning Bird thinks it's a British accent and I thought maybe it's a Dutch accent, cause of his name, but I can't find enough samples of Dutch accents.
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I think it may be wool. I have a German wool coat similar to Kleiss's it has the shoulder and arm straps and everything (but it's steel blue). It's extremely warm and not too heavy so it does have a little flow to it.
Haha cool. I think since his accent is very light, and the way he pronounces things, he could be dutch, but lived in america or england for a long time. Because I take German (which is similar to Dutch) and I notice sometimes he'll pronounce things weirdly (though I guess talking about the voice actor, but who knows, it could be in his script to pronounce things that way)
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Neato, I may try and get one someday. I'm fascinated by long coats. Do you think you could post a picture of your coat?
You can probably hear the subtle differences between similar languages better than I can. If the accent is obvious I may be able to identify it, otherwise it'll pretty much be 'I like how he talks' and that's it. What kind of odd pronouncations does he make that you've caught?
Troy Baker is pretty gifted with doing different voices and tones. I've heard three different characters he voices and if not for the fact that his name is in the credits I wouldn't realize it was the same guy. So it's probably in his script to speak that way.
Also, I had a thought earlier: would you mind if I tried drawing your VK redesign in my own style? Not sure if I'll actually do it, but it would be an interesting project and I like playing with my sharpies.
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Haha maybe, I'll try.
Yeah, I just listen to a lot of foreign people so it catches on. I can't really name off most of it off the top of my head but he does use the lower regions of his throat more.
Yes he is, he's amazing~ I just love voice actors, they can do anything it seems.
Go right on ahead! :3 I love it when people draw my stuff
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Cool! Let me know if you decide to do so.
...And I wish I understood more of how people speak (involving their throats, vocal chords, and the different syllables). Do you mean the area of the throat where people make deeper, rumbling sounds? ((Where can I go to learn more about that type of thing?))
It's amazing what one can do with their voice, some voice actors are especially gifted for a variety of tones and others are good at a specific type of character *coughTimCurrycough*
Which characters of his have you seen? ...And does that sentence make sense? It looks a little wonky...
Neat! Maybe that'll be my next project. I have a few detail questions: How long is his hair? How far down his back? Does he let it hang in his face usually or does he prefer to have it brushed back? Do you know of any other references I can look up for ideas of how to handle his gauntlet arm and the blended-with-organic-limbs look? I know there's a phrase for it, but it's slipping my mind right now >_<
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Haha I don't know where I learn this stuff I just have, I'm one of those kinds of people that really observe others. It creeps people out because I stare a lot.
Yes, yes it is, even normal actors such as Misha Collins who plays Castiel in Supernatural, he normally has a high smooth happy voice, but as Castiel it's gruff and low, he can also go to a super kawaii desu high pitch voice as well.
Haha, his hair goes down to the ends of his shoulder blades and it really depends on how the mood is. His bio-mechanic arm can just be referenced by human muscle groupings, that's what I shaped it from.
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You mean something akin to that thousand-yard-stare or the you're-a-specimen-under-my-scope kind of look? I've creeped my sister out a bit when my imagination takes me to la-la-land and I have an unblinking, completely expressionless look on my face.
It's amazing how people can change their voices like that. I certainly can not. My voice is pretty much stuck on a narrow spectrum.
Just below his shoulder blades, got it. Hm...I have a few references for that, be interesting to see what I get from it. Hopefully it will do your unique design justice.
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More I'm-sherlock-and-i-know-everything-about-you-from-that-stain-on-your-blouse kind of stare....it's weird. haha
Yes, yes it is~
Ok~ I can't wait to see it!
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Oooh, even better. Have you actually managed to pull off an impression and not just the look?
I'll let you know once I get it done. Not sure how long it'll take, though...
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A couple times, I'm not that good at it yet though.
:3
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"Not that good at it yet" implies much better results than "I can't quite pull it off" or something similar. Plus, none of us can hope to attain Sherlock's level of epicness. Doesn't mean we can't pick up enough to unnerve the heck out of other people ^^
Do let me know if you manage to pull it off at some point.
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Hey, I finished the lineart for my variation of your VK Re-design. Do you think I should post it now or wait until I finish coloring it in?
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haha do what you want! :3 if you wanna post it go ahead, if you don't that's fine too
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I posted it! It's under the title of 'Van Kleiss Re-Design'. What do you think? [link]
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And someone will say "Oh, what a pity, he always had such beautiful hair"
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*Snicker* And suffer a horribly gruesome fate. Either drained of nanites and petrified or systematically torn to shreds. Or worse, cause we all know Van Kleiss can be cruel, vindictive, and, heaven forbid creative.
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Well, have you read my fanfic about him cutting his hair and then getting a compliemnt from Biowulf ([link] )
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Haven't managed to plant myself long enough to read it I'm afraid. The concept leaves me twitchy and fidgety and basically unable to read farther than the title. Most likely I'm imagining what-it-could-be very differently from how it's written but I'm still having trouble actually reading it. I'll probably read it eventually, I just need to wait to warm up to the idea a bit.
((By the way, that alternate outfit you did of Van Kleiss is neat. I don't much care for the style of boots he's wearing but it's a very interesting piece.))
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then why don't you read it?
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I haven't been able to plant myself down long enough. I tried before and I got so fidgety I couldn't stay in my chair or stay on the page. Like I said, I'll get to it eventually, just not right now.
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Then ask me when you're ready to read it, okay?
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Will do! Or, if I forget before hand, I'll let you know after.
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I love it!
He looks 101% ticked off.
He's going to need a new coat, too, if he can even get it off.
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Hey, how about this look? ([link] )
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That's very nicely done, but I prefer his hair longer - I think it gives him a rangy look and compliments his features better than short.
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What do you mean rangy?
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