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A fun fanart of samus voted by the poll community on Patreon.
This is my own fun twist version of her.
I'll be doing more series like this in the future
Thanks for the favs and comments!
Lara Croft is also included in the batch!
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Forgive me if I sound like some broken record (I just want to know! ;w;!!), so you mean, Zero needs to be full on professional or full on smut, because this "pay me to see them naked" is in a way, wrong?
Now, what if he kept doing it (60% NSFW, 40% respectable), but didn't advertise the NSFW versions of his work, so the only thing you see in his gallery is the 40%?
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What a weird smiley.
The "hopefully" is probably a language error. I'm not a native English speaker.
What I mean is that Zero is a professionnal artist, there are some times where he'll have work to do and post it here. and you can't fuck up work, because there are many people who will review it and judge it appropriate or not. The work he's done for Riot games is what brought me here, and his older projects are even better.
Plus, he doesn't really advertise the NSFW. It just shows up, no matter what.
What I only like in his gallery are the non-NSFW pieces, yes. But that doesn't mean that he can't work on them too. Just not like this ^.
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So he should have a seperate account for it,the NSFW that is.
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No, he just needs to make his NSFW pieces sexier and less vulgar.
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Then just don't look at it.
"THIS should be the NSFW version!"
No! Did you look at one of the recent "tutorial" images Saki made? The one where she censored both the female AND male nipples? That was a way to show how stupid prudish some people can be.
Calling it a virus... Good god man.
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"Then just don't look at it".
This is probably the worst argument ever. I have Zero in my watch list. I see it on top of the 24 hours page. How could I possibly not look at it? Plus, as I said but you chose to ignore, it looked gorgeous in the miniatures. I wanted to see it up close, and like I said again, it still looks nice and well done. But it makes the character very vulgar and actually not so sexy, so to me, this is a bad choice. I'm certain the chest pattern, if there was one, would have been more interesting to look at than exposed breasts.
It's painful to me, but I agree with you, censoring nipples on anatomic figures is a bit of a weird move. It shouldn't even be a problem. BUT as you might know, or not, most of tutorials on anatomy DON'T show nipples or crotch details. Why? Because these are supposed to be for everyone, and by everyone I mean kids, and we have a long history of not showing genitalia, so it's not acceptable to show them in tutorials. It's how it is : body parts that have a high sexual-excitement potential (for most of the population) are to be censored (even if we have been less harsh about it with butts). If we didn't censor those parts, why would we even wear clothes? But that's another debate.
What I mean, is that there is painting NSFW for the sake of art,there's painting NSFW for the sake of erotism, and there's painting NSFW for the sake of NSFW. This falls into the third category.
In the first category, nudity means something. It means that the character is fragile, close to nature or whatever BS excuse you want to make. It has a meaning. And the rest of the work should tell enough of a story in itself to make that nudity essential for the painting. If you cloth you character up, you lose meaning, you lose something, and the art becomes less good.
The second category is close to that one: in an obviously risqué or very porn-related scene, you would probably lose some of the action you're representing with clothes on, unless clothes are a part of what you do. When it comes to this kind of painting, you're not representing a concept, but a scene. Should the character be in distress or pleased by what's happening to it, you're representing a part of the sexual act. It's by definition NSFW. And in that kind of matter, showing a nipple or two is something almost expected. The goal for this is either for the artist to be catharsized, or to arouse the viewer.
Another example : you draw a fully naked girl, that's just hiding crucial parts with her hands and arms. What you're drawing is actually sexy, because it suggests more than it shows. See what I mean? It's NSFW because the only thing you can think of is "What's behind those hands"? or "Man is she gorgeous looking" or things that derive from sexual arousal.
The third category, in which Sakimichan's NSFW works and ZeroNis's belong, is NSFW for the sake of NSFW. What it means is that it gives no meaning to nudity and exposure. The character could as well be fully dressed, and it would still work, or work even better with clothes on. Drawing a nipple and labia just for the pleasure of it is one thing, but pieces like this is just finding excuses.
Look at Samus. She totally has a pin-up pose. And what is the purpose of pin-ups? It's to suggest, not to show. A pin-up is made by the pose and the character, and she's doing exactly that, not the amount of bare skin and nipple she shows.
This serves no use but to bring horny dudes to the Patreon to get the uncensored version. It's a low move to me. Come on, that's how you sell a Playboy magazine! Are these two artists Playboy magazines? I hope not.
Honestly, I don't care for the uncensored versions, they don't interest me because they dont' have what I would look for in NSFW. I just care about those that are not. If Zero wants to fall into that trend to and make every single painting a NSFW one, good for him. But what I dislike here is that the "non-mature" version looks even sluttier than a cheap hooker in Amsterdam. There's no point in exposing the chest and the crotch, especially on a character that, as I said, already wears a skin-tight suit. It doesn't really show much more, it just looks out of place and vulgar.
Hell, I'm certain that it wouldn't take more than 30 minutes to correct this and suit her up. It clearly shows it was a choice, and when I think a choice is bad, I make it known. It's my opinion, it may be flawed, but it's also criticism. And most of people know that criticism is the best way to advance, in art or any other subject. And I do believe that a professional artist like ZeroNis has heard plenty of harsher critics than mine in his time.
If his goal was to make this look good at all, then I think it's failed. If his goal was to draw whatever the hell he wanted and doesn't care at all about feedback, I can't say much more. But since I don't know that, I'm still speaking my mind.
As for the virus thing, I don't know what else to call it. It's something that's not good and spreads among people. What is it, a bacteria?
And I think I remember having an argument with you earlier, am I wrong?
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Ok then, since you don't think that is a good argument I'll counter your points with the things I like then.
I think it looks gorgeous both in the miniature and the full picture.
I don't think its vulgar at all, infact it expresses the freedom of the body, yes yes it's just a picture and not a real woman but it's basically the same thing.
It is sexy, infact, a woman with a toned body, drawn or not IS sexy. Exposed breasts or chest pattern it doesn't matter. If it's a good artist like Zeronis his making it will look good.
I think that kids should learn from young age about these things from their parents. So there wouldn't be any need to censor anything of the sort. If that happened, I'm pretty sure everyone would actually take nudity for what it actually is, a natural part of our lives.
Your three next paragraphs are basically about what art is in this situation. Neither you, nor I can decide what art is not. It doesn't matter how many drawings you have or how good or bad they are.
What irks me most is that you said " I'm certain that it wouldn't take more than 30 minutes to correct this and suit her up." And the fact that you repeatedly say this is a bad choice. Again, this comes unto the category of what you think is art or not. There is nothing to "correct" here. It's not a mistake.
I'm pretty sure both Zeronis and Saki believe that what they do is art, which as I said before, they are in the right. I also don't believe they are doing this only because of the money, but since they know it will get them more money they put the NSFW version behind a paywall, regardless of whether or not they would have drawn NSFW pictures if it wasn't for patreon. And I'm pretty sure they aren't sad about it either, quite the opposite infact, they can draw whatever they want.
And again, I'm not going to repeat my stance about nudity but by saying that criticism like yours, here, is the way to "advance" (which makes it sound like they have fallen down a dark path and lost all their honor, which is something I'd expect to hear in the 10th Century just before they hang someone because they had sex with their neighbour) then you're absolutely wrong.
Again, " It's something that's not good and spreads among people." No... just... no. How can you not see how old fashioned this sounds. Unless of course that is what you're going for.
And maybe we've had an argument, who knows. I usually tend to respond to people who are being negative on the pages of artists that I like.
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Let's go with that.
Actually, yes. It's very well painted, and if you re-read my first comment, I said that the skin plays wonderfully with lgiht. That's not the problem I have.
What I mean is that the fact that only heavily sexualized areas are revealed. It's vulgar. It totally is. The definition has "indecent or lewd" in it, and I think it totally is. Now, imagine you walk down in the street, and a random girl has a shirt that's just open around her breast and her nipples are covered only with duct tape. You'd be lying if you said that you don't look at it funny because it's unusual, and it's unusual because it's regarded as "bad" and "indecent" by society. Your argument against vulagrity is basicly "no it's not." That doesn't work.
It doesn't express anything but objectification. If a woman was proud of her body, she would show it all. A body is not just breasts and butt. There are muscles, shoulders, arms, thighs, feet... which are actually all well-covered by the suit. If she was totally naked, I wouldn't have commented in the first place, but I would also have agreed with you. But here, it's not pride, it's total objectification. The crotch and breasts are the only areas that stand out, which means attention is drawn to them, which means it's voluntarily exposed. Women can also be proud of that, no problem, but showing them off like this is what I call vulgar.
We don't see much of the actual body, so I wouldn't say it's toned... But she surely has a nice figure, I'll give you that.
And no, it's not sexy to me. Vulgar and sexy can't belong together. I have my very own definition of sexy, so I can understand that you... don't understand that, but let me explain. Sexy, to me, is a mix of beauty, class and exposure. It means that the person is not afraid to suggest things, but doesn't show them to keep the fantasies vivid. Showing too much stops being sexy and becomes vulgar, and that's what we have here.
I think that a good compromise for me woud have been a closed crotch to begin with, and a zipper pulled down to the navel for maximum cleavage. Now that flirts a bit with vulgar, but remains sexy.
About the nudity part, I don't agree with you, but I can't explain why. So I'll give you the point.
Perhaps it's just that it makes the whole thing less special, I don't know.
I didn't list what art is (since it can be pretty much anything), I listed what GOOD art is. Again, my very own definition : good art is the one that makes you feel the most while having a great technique. Zero here has the great technique, but the feels, which are supposed to be mostly made out of lust in our case, totally misfired with me and are replaced with "eh".
If you someday find someone that types on his keyboard with a very special rythm and makes you feel emotions other than "will you stop typing so loud?", I'll say it's good art.
I see. And I understand. I went far in my own vision of things, I agree. But I maintain that it's a poor choice in a matter of good taste.
I'll give you again my opinion on the last part : it friggin' sucks. If someone wants to draw naked girls getting raped by whatever horror they want, it's their right. I don't question that. Here, it's much softer, it's about drawing characters naked instead of clothed. But I really question the pleasure they take in doing that. I mean, it's less obvious for Zeronis, but I'm not so sure that when you're reaching your fifth character you enjoy drawing naked bodies that much. And that's the problem I have with those NSFW posts : they don't look good to me, and I'm not even sure the artists enjoyed doing that, so I'm like "Why do you even bother"? I feel like they're doing this just for the Patreon, just to make sure they get their money, in a very lurid way. I feel really bad about thinking that. I have no proof of it, maybe they really enjoy painting on that subject, but I can't get out of my head that it's not even the case.
And it also feels like they don't give a rat's ass about what they produce. People are going to like anyways, why would they? Sakimichan had a serious drop in quality for some time, until a few people came to remember her that she can do better and that it would be appreciated.
Sorry if I think that I'm right. Again, it's not about the nudity, it's about the way it's done. I couldn't care less if they began to do only mature content, as long as it's well done and gives the expected arousal. This ^right over there, doesn't for me.
So yeah, I do think they're descending on a soapy slope that won't lead them very far. They're on the way of cheap work and easy money. I went down that path too, I know what it is, and I know I stopped because I hated myself for it, because I was sacrificing the fun I had drawing and painting to get more money. Plus, my art wasn't getting better, it was the opposite.
I'm concerned about their gallery, and if I have them in my Watch, it's because I like what both Zero and Saki used to do. And I want to see more of that. I don't want to see dick or boob pics. I want to see character design, pretty colours and master technique, and I don't want my own personal pleasure to be spoiled, so that's why I stand up and claim my opinions.
And saying I'm absolutely wrong ... is absolutely wrong. Criticism is actually the way to advance. Maybe not mine, because I'm not God and I don't own universal truth, but if there are more and more people who stand up and say that there are things they don't like or could be better, then it will mean that I was right and something's actually wrong with the concerned paintings.
I honestly don't see how it's old fashioned. I didn't say "heresy". But I'm sorry, I perceive this trend as a bad one, what can I do?
If everyone started to make big action movies that made no sense and relied mostly on explosions and boobs, wouldn't you say that the Michael Bay virus is spreading?
Yeah, we definitely argued about the exact same problem on sakimichan's Bayonetta. I'm certain.
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"and I'm not even sure the artists enjoyed doing that, so I'm like "Why do you even bother"?"
If that was the truth, then why did Saki stop posting comments and even started turning off the comments in the NSFW pages.
"So yeah, I do think they're descending on a soapy slope that won't lead them very far."
Is that why they get front page everytime they post something? They are definitely not going down. Infact they can keep doing this for the rest of their lives and they will become more successful by the years. You've seen it yourself in the comments. How many people agree with you vs how many people like this art they do.
It's not like they want a nobel prize for their art. All they have to do in this time and day is sit infront of their computer and get thousands of dollars every 2 weeks (in Saki's case that's 25k dollars).
They are not going anywhere and even thinking that they are is silly.
The point is, you're set on believing they don't like doing this. But what if they are just like everyone else who likes this kind of stuff?
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"If that was the truth, then why did Saki stop posting comments and even started turning off the comments in the NSFW pages."
It's not really related. At the time, if I remember well, she didn't paint much NSFW, but her art felt way more rushed and not worked upon. I guess she was going through something hard, I don't really know, but she must have had so many uncool comments about the quality of her work decreasing that she turned them off for a while.
They get front page each time they post something mostly because, all in all they are amazing artists. And the NSFW posts help them greatly keeping that place. It's like if they were T-rexes of art before, with NSFW they're T-rexes with laserguns. Unstoppable.
But I take again my example of Michael Bay: each movie he makes is a big hit, because he happens to have the good subjects. It's exactly the same. People (even I, I must say) are attracted to his movies because hey! Ninja Turtles! Hey, Robot dinosaurs! It's something we can't possibly dislike, yet it's done in a way that leaves me unsatisfied.
And sure, I haven't actually took the time to check how much Zero earned, but Sakimichan is litterally drowning in money. Again, Michael Bay.
But unlike MB, I don't want to ignore them, because I know they have the potential to climb and stay on top of my favourite artists. And that's why I don't want them to fall to the point where only money matters and anything can be thrown at people.
If they're really enjoying what they do, then I simply don't understand. At all. I don't say that once or twice they can do that for fun, but when it becomes a routine, there's no possible way to imagine that they feel all good doing that, that some part of them is not trying to convince them they have better things to do.
Yet that's my view on things, and I tend to dislike people so much that I would bash someone's head in with a shovel if they commented "awesome" on one of my pics. I always assume the crowds are dumb and don't know what's good for them.
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Initially I didn't want to comment further as I respect Zeronis very much and hoped the controversy would die down.
However, after reading this I realized you are doing this out of respect for Zeronis and therefore wanted to ask you two questions:
Are you older than 27, and if so did you abandon your own popularity for "the truth"?
I recently turned 37 and went to art school with those 16 years my junior. It was an experience, to say the least, and all I can say is that even at this age I realized I needed to not only be humbled by those younger than me who often knew things I didn't know but to simply believe in my own path I set myself on.
I have also went through many artistic phases and hurdles and when I allow other artists to be happy with their own ideas, methodologies and freedoms even if they turn out to be mistakes in the end, it is almost always for the better (so long as it doesn't involve suicide, in which case I always write something back).
Allowing fellow artists to learn and make mistakes of their own, even if you want to tell them not to, is sometimes the most respectful gift you can give when they are tired of the criticism, the feedback and being perfect.
Besides, failures, especially when it concerns artistry, begets growth. And growth ultimately begets mastery.
Overall I see you have good intentions and hope those who read understood that as well.
Simply be aware that sometimes it's better to let the artist be happy, and the best way to spend your time is to simply focus on yourself not others.
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Glad you could see this through my harsh words.
No, I just turned 22, and I'm not even that popular in the first place, so I had nothing to lose.
I agree with your vision, one learns mostly through his mistakes, but mistakes take a lot of time. I try at least to make that loss as little as possible. I'm feeling recently that I've lost 5 years of my life (in terms of studies, I regret nothing else), and I don't want that to happen to anyone else.
My biggest problem is that I always assume artists can't be happy when they work on this kind of subject, knowing they'll get massive approval. I did commissions once, and ended up hating myself, my clients and all those who liked what I did, I had to stop. So I assume it goes the same for others.
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"But unlike MB, I don't want to ignore them, because I know they have the potential to climb and stay on top of my favourite artists. "
So it's about you. Basically you don't really care what other people think about them.
"there's no possible way to imagine that they feel all good doing that, that some part of them is not trying to convince them they have better things to do."
Or maybe you think that everyone thinks the same way as you do...? I don't get it.
You think this is a black and white type of situation and what they do is the black part and you think that they will find their way back into the light?
"Yet that's my view on things, and I tend to dislike people so much that I would bash someone's head in with a shovel if they commented "awesome" on one of my pics. I always assume the crowds are dumb and don't know what's good for them."
Wait.... what?
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Yeah, it is. But I naturally assume I know what's good and what is not, regardless of my preferences, so it can be applied to others too.
Yeah again, if I can't understand something, it's because I've tried all the scenarios I could think of and none of them allowed me to find an answer.
It's not black and white. It's all in shades of grey. But if by black you mean "working carelessly just for money" and by white you mean "working well for the sake of art", they're definitely going for a slightly dark grey, where they should be at a white-grey mix (working well AND earning money).
Just forget it. I failed at trying to say that the masses' opinions should never be considered when asked what they want. Most of the people composing it don't have good enough taste to actually raise the bar.
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By black and white I mean, wrong and right respectively. Basically saying that you believe your opinion being always the right choice.
"Yeah, it is. But I naturally assume I know what's good and what is not, regardless of my preferences, so it can be applied to others too."
"I failed at trying to say that the masses' opinions should never be considered when asked what they want. Most of the people composing it don't have good enough taste to actually raise the bar."
But, you're part of the masses too. And taste is different for everyone, meaning it doesn't mean yours is better and mine is not, which comes back again at the first point about black and white/wrong and right.
But then again when you say this " But I naturally assume I know what's good and what is not" then all of the other things do not matter. Because, you do realize that's a flaw right?
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Yes, I had grasped the concept.
It's really lovable how you're making me sound like some kind of dictator where I'm trying to be as objective as possible.
Well OBVIOUSLY some have better tastes than others, and I'm not targeting you. And taste also comes with education, and the crowds lack this education. They'll think anything is good because they can't do it themselves. I'm totally saying I have a better taste than most people, I don't think how that's bad. I don't know about your own tastes and your own view on things, but you are maybe also above the masses.
And I'm trying all I can to climb out of the masses, especially by crying my opinions out loud for example, instead of simply accepting everything.
I don't understand that last sentence. What diesn't matter? How's that a flaw to objectively know how to recognize good from bad?
Are you tryig to say that no one can? Because we totally can.
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"They'll think anything is good because they can't do it themselves."
I can gladly say I disagree with that.
"I don't know about your own tastes and your own view on things, but you are maybe also above the masses."
Well, thanks I guess? But how can you say that when I'm on the side of the other people who like this image? Is it because I'm expressing my opinion on these posts rather than saying "oh hey this is awesome"?
"And I'm trying all I can to climb out of the masses, especially by crying my opinions out loud for example, instead of simply accepting everything."
Maybe they don't have time, maybe they just log on DA for a couple of minutes to take a look around. Maybe they don't sit so much on their PC as we do arguing over things like that. Each person's life is unique they do and like other things than us. Infact, each person actually thinks they are above the masses in their own way. You might be walking around a crowded place and think to yourself, "oh hey look at all the people just walking around knowing not what they want, living a routine."
But they actually think the same for you and everyone else around them. That's how things work. Just because they aren't writing a wall of text here and there doesn't mean they don't care about their own opinions. They just have other things to do most likely.
What I meant is that you thinking you're the only one who's right, is the flaw.
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Then you have a different experience than I have everyday.
Yes, that's already a beginning, not to sound too condescending. Plus, I don't know you, but the fact you avtually take some time to defend what you like shows your interest. You have your own ideas on debatable matters (women nudity for example).
I'm very aware of that, and I mostly try not to judge people. But I'm quite certain that these cases are very rare. I'm certainly not going to ask everyone why they commented, and I can't have more than a hunch about what was going on while commenting.
Yeah, everyone's unique and all. Some have something else to do.
But I want to emphasize the fact that DeviantArt is mostly composed of "casuals". I'm sorry about the negative connotation of the word, but it has the best meaning for me. People come on DA for the cool fan arts of characters they love, they mostly don't care for the artists and all. It takes time and dedication to support and follow artists, which most people don't wish to allow as you say. People are not all as invested as I am, I understand that. That's why some people must invest themselves, to keep the content good for everyone who doesn't have time to dig it out.
You know, I've had a lot of problems recently with heavily fetish-related material popping all around the site with no mature content tag, and I'm hunting those down to at least request the "mature content" tag. So why not push this "crusade" of mine to get the overall quality of good artist's work a bit higher and not perverted?
I might have lost you by this point. Am I being clear?
Said like that, sure it is. And it's false. Let's say I haven't been convinced my opinion was wrong.
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Oh no, you didn't lose me at all. I understand what you mean by "casuals". I'd think the people who use the internet for "funny videos" and just facebook would be considered "casuals" to me.
Well I guess then, that I also have a "crusade" so to speak. And I can see that your opinion won't be changed, but neither will mine. Nope, not in a million years.
Thing is, I probably wouldn't bother with any of this if it wasn't for the fact that their art is only on this site, or atleast all together on this site. There are NSFW sites that they could be posting these pictures too but they aren't so yeah. Then I'm inclined to make sure they keep posting these here, or heck, even keep posting them at all.
I mean, I could always just follow them on their other sites but they are all too spread out, like Saki has instagram and Zeronis has artstation (which actually seems pretty damn good) and some of them have tumblr , which I really hate. I hate the guts of that site, from the way it looks to the way the community acts.
So yeah, I can't do anything else other than approve of their art here so they keep posting it.
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And that's perfectly fine, really. It's a good thing for those artists to have someone to counterbalance the harsh critics they receive.
Í'm not against their art, as I said. I just obnoxiously want the artists not to lose focus and keep thinking about what they do, always give 100%. If they keep posting stuff like that, vulgar and all in my opinion, sure Ím gonna be pissed, but as long as there's some more generic stuff that hooked me to their style, I'll be fine and praise them about it.
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Well I'll do the same thing then, I guess.
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I'm glad we finally came to have the same opinion!
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AMAZING AND LOVE MY FAV NINTENDO CHARACTER
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Will this be sold on dev? or is this a Patreon only?
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Holly shit gotta love this version of her, not bad my friend no bad, so if you don't care a copy of this one has been sent into my favorites
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love how you rendered the monster thing
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This is awesome !!! Amazing work man ! *^*
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This is beyond amazing, incredible redesign of Samus
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I almost feel like this needs to be a skin in lol also
I <3 it 
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Really well done design , it would make a great Secret alternate costume for a game 
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Exactly. Very practical to distract her enemies. It is a very strategic costume. Lol
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