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Published: 2015-10-23 17:17:36 +0000 UTC; Views: 123659; Favourites: 8048; Downloads: 0
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This was a fun fan art with my own style and spin!

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Comments: 240

Thecataboveyou [2015-10-25 15:50:49 +0000 UTC]

I see more in this picture the daughter she could have with hashitaka c: 

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Glitterwater [2015-10-25 07:52:04 +0000 UTC]

Amazing 

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Meruhesae [2015-10-25 07:47:07 +0000 UTC]

Stunning - really nice interpretation.
Just wow! Especially the little details. 
Love it ♥♥♥

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SgtSareth [2015-10-25 06:57:46 +0000 UTC]

Now that's a wrinkle on San I've not seen before.

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Zeronis [2015-10-25 00:32:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the favs and appreciating this art. For those saying it's not her. It's fine.
I made it clear this is my version, spin, and style on her. Doesn't represent the movie version of the character. Seriously just chill the ass down! It's a bit frustrating how so many people are so sensitive to a simple art because it's not the way they want it. I can be super critical about your work as well but choose to be respectful instead. If you don't like the art, just ignore and pass. No need pull down the ass and tell me to kiss it.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-27 23:44:38 +0000 UTC]

Right on!

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Luciandra-Michaelis In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 18:18:36 +0000 UTC]

From what I saw in a lot of the comments, people werent all that critical. There are people here and there making the porn joke, but I assume you get that a lot. The people that put in real input on improvement shouldnt be ignored though. Considering these people you are complaining about put roughly 10,000 dollars in your pocket every couple weeks, I think you can stand a little criticism.

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Digital-Diverge In reply to Luciandra-Michaelis [2015-10-28 07:08:05 +0000 UTC]

You dumbass, how the fuck do you know that she makes ten thousand a week? From what I can tell theres only a hand full of pieces even in her gallery. If he or shes already earning ten K a week then id knuckle the fuck down and actually learn to draw instead of acting like a little bitch.

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Luciandra-Michaelis In reply to Digital-Diverge [2015-10-28 20:39:43 +0000 UTC]

he makes roughly 10,000 every 2 weeks from patreon. knowing that doesnt make me a dumb ass, so not sure how that fits in. what do my drawings have to do with how much someone else makes? your whole comment is a mess. i get told my stuff is shit all the time and i practice non stop. this artist is incredible, and i never said otherwise. i just pointed out that there didnt seem to be criticism that was all that harsh on here besides the typical "its too sexy" stuff that he gets all the time. i even pointed out that the people putting in real input are the ones to pay attention to, not the shitters. i assumed he was talking about all criticism but i see it was just about the people complaining instead of giving real advice.

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Digital-Diverge In reply to Luciandra-Michaelis [2015-10-28 22:05:01 +0000 UTC]

"10,000 every 2 weeks"
My mistake, it was sheer dumbfuckery on my part. I was clearly unaware of how-- lucrative such talents were.  
 
"i get told my stuff is shit all the time"
For one, the criticisms here generally have nothing to do with the quality of art. If you had viewers who were shaming you, complaining for reasons not relevant to the quality of your work, or simply being abusive rather than constructive on how you could become better, then theyer dumbasses and id tell them the same thing ive said here. Mostly because I enjoy arguing with people--.

My comment was not on you being a shitty artist who needs to learn to draw, in fact i think your a great artist, i was saying maybe you need to put the level of effort in learning that this guy did and find a way to profit from it and then perhaps you wouldnt say salty stuff like; 'if your making money then you should be able to put up with the criticism.'  Which, again, I agree with, but the criticisms here have nothing to do with quality and thus are generally unwelcomed.
If you drew a guy or girl in a swim suit and people claimed: "I dont care what anyone says, thats not the character because they never wore swimsuits!" or "youre a shitty artist who sexually objectifies people!" Those people are worthless sacks of meat and really need to fuck off.

"i assumed he was talking about all criticism"
Nope, im almost certain the comment was in regards to complaints about the clothing.

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Luciandra-Michaelis In reply to Digital-Diverge [2015-10-28 22:27:21 +0000 UTC]

i didnt mean to sound so rude in my original comment and im sorry that i did. i only meant that people do love his art enough to support him, so he should consider what the people trying to be helpful have to say. in any case the people constantly shitting on him about things being sexy need to get over it. one look at his gallery and they would understand that he likes to draw things sexy and there isnt anything wrong with that.

as for the i get told my stuff is shit part, it just kinda sounded like it was implied i was bad (and i do hear it from people, but dont condone it), it wasnt really toward the artist.

unfortunately text makes things hard to interpret when it comes to who he was addressing (for me anyway) and now that i know, it looks totally different ^_^;

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Digital-Diverge In reply to Luciandra-Michaelis [2015-10-28 23:34:05 +0000 UTC]

"I didnt mean to sound so rude"
And my trolling was excessive and misplaced-- im very sorry.  

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Luciandra-Michaelis In reply to Digital-Diverge [2015-10-29 00:41:31 +0000 UTC]

thats what the internet does to us i suppose

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Digital-Diverge [2015-10-28 16:39:22 +0000 UTC]

Dude I recommend blocking BlackVinyl , she seems to be a troll or very mentally unstable. She will send treats and has no respect for this artist and his fans. BlackVinyl , I was not attacking you. I only used your own lack of reason to show how illogical you are being. "Hell to try to defend someone who can defend themselves like he's some helpless little boy that can't properly wipe his ass" if you are not trying to be hurtful than what are you trying to accomplish? trying give yourself a purpose, maybe. Second I 'm serious about the therapist, deep mental issues come from this type of behavior that never ends well if not treated. Third if you don't think your mean and hurtful comments mean anything to Zero than you are truly distanced from reality. Finally stating "This looks good, but it ain't *blank*" shows your lack of respect for Zero, his fans, and how egotistic and self entitled you truly are BlackVinyl . Side note, you show a pattern of blocking people who challenge you and your words. Just to let you know this is another red flag. As a Humanist I must give advice to those I see might be suffering, If i don't I will have a guilty conscious for not trying to help.

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BlackVinyl In reply to Digital-Diverge [2015-10-28 15:32:39 +0000 UTC]

You two motherfuckers Bellum3rd-Mass are patrolling Zeronis comments like he's motherfucking paying you to do this shit! I was right. Pathetic as Hell to try to defend someone who can defend themselves like he's some helpless little boy that can't properly wipe his ass. You two are blocked and anybody else who looks at this piece needs to block you two. 

Bellum3rd-Mass  you have a lot of fucking nerve talking about I need a therapist. You BOTH need a therapist with the way you waste your damn time defending and attacking people because you don't like what they say about something. 

The only reason why I came back is to get your names to block you after I responded, but I see you two need to shut the fuck up and worry about getting to Zeronis level or even my level.

As Zeronis continues to post his interpretations of popular and beloved characters he's going to continue to get people like me and others who he and you two feel are being nonconstructive and negative. When he posts something I feel is personifying that character I will give him a pat on the back, but until then it's "This looks good, but it ain't *blank*".

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Digital-Loken In reply to BlackVinyl [2015-10-28 17:45:52 +0000 UTC]

Agh, the rage.
Gimmi a sec to turn on my epic music so i can truly savor this moment. 

"like he's motherfucking paying you to do this shit!"
Please, calling you a pseudo righteous cunt and watching you throw a tantrum is payment enough.

"try to defend someone who can defend themselves"
Lol. Arent you doing the same thing?

"the way you waste your damn time defending and attacking people"
You really dont see the hypocrisy in that argument, do you?
See, the flaw in bells thinking is that hes convinced that you can be fixed with therapy but in reality you clearly are a product inbreeding.
Some things are simply broken beyond repair, im afraid.

 "he's going to continue to get people like me" 
And people like you are going to continue getting people like us.

"and others who he and you two feel are being nonconstructive"
So, youre telling me that complaining about how his work doesnt match the source material is actually constructive and teaches him how to be a better artist?
I doubt you buy that any more than we do.

Also, this is Diverge and I just wanted to say that I blocked you as well.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Luciandra-Michaelis [2015-10-28 00:36:43 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this must be the most ignorant passive aggressive comment I have ever read. How he takes criticism for him to decide, this little thing called free will. 

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Luciandra-Michaelis In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-28 20:35:48 +0000 UTC]

the only thing that could be read as passive aggressive would be the last sentence. i didnt say anything about the way he takes the criticism, i just pointed out that none of them were particularly nasty to him. if there were super harsh ones i missed, then im sorry. i even pointed out that i assume he gets those dicks saying something is too sexy all the time and that what really matters are the ones who give real input. it seemed like he was responding to everyone who gave any criticism, but after seeing his other responses i see hes just responding to the people talking shit. i was pointing out that the people actually trying to critique should be heard out.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Luciandra-Michaelis [2015-10-29 07:14:35 +0000 UTC]

I see what your saying and and I understand your position. Sorry if I seemed harsh with my statement. I just can't stand those "this is too sexy" dicks that think their line of what is "okay" sexy should be everyone's line. I to have given criticism to Zero, but unlike "those" trigger freaks we actually care about him and his art. Those trigger freaks only wish to demand him to do what THEY want. Hope your not upset with me!

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Luciandra-Michaelis In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-29 18:28:26 +0000 UTC]

nah its okay. sometimes what i say isnt all that clear so this happens a lot lol
i know what you mean. i used to be one of those people a few years ago, but now i just go with it.
nothing wrong with the human figure, so why be mad about it?

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Luciandra-Michaelis [2015-10-29 20:20:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for not being upset! I know we all have different tastes but yeah getting mad over something like the beautiful/sexy human form is so perplexing to me. Hope you have a nice day  .  

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 11:24:39 +0000 UTC]

Funny thing to say from someone who disabled the comments on a piece because he was so sensitive about the feedback. I mean i really love this piece and i can see it's not the one from the movie, you drew her with your style and it's perfectly fine, Great colors, great light, great anatomy, overall a wonderfull piece.
But there is one thing you can't dismiss, when someone critisize your work. You can't please everybody of course but the least you can do is listen and see if you can improve yourself. You have a level i could never dream of achieving, your art is truly amazing, but that doesn't mean you can't improve either with expressions, anatomy or overall feel on a piece. So basically telling everyone who critisize your work to f*ck of and to stop being so sensitive about a piece well... That's not a smart thing to do. Or at least stop being so sensitive about critisism.

So yeah. The fact you are an amazing artist doesn't give you the right to insult those who don't agree with you. If there is a critisism it mean someone see a flaw. And if someone sees a flaw in your work that mean you can improve the next one.
I wish you the best and will still keep an eye on your art.

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Zeronis In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-25 18:24:53 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't say funny at all. And I wouldn't call some of them as feedbacks. More geared towards personal offense saying things like "another fan art that makes her look like a whore! I'm gonna stop following you zeronis!" Or "you've gotten so much worse and worse it sickens me!" Or "this is not the character, just another one of the super sexualized version that zeronis does."

There's difference between constructive feedback and outright insulting unprofessional personal opinion.

More constructive and respectful feedback would be,
"My suggestion is to make her more true to the original character and perhaps giving her more functional outfit. Take it or leave it feedback."
Or "my first thought is she looks a bit too sexualized more than usual."
Or if it's personal subjective opinion
"I personally not digging this version of her but that's just me! "

You're right that I'm a sensitive person. Putting long hours and passion into work, practicing my whole life to honing my artistic skills, it's hard not to care about what others think of my stuff.
I respect others, good or bad, the same way. It's difficult to do art!
But it's fair to say some member on DA are taking liberties to say anything they want without any consequences or remorse. Part of it is the DA's horrible system of managing community which developed into toxic community.
I'm definitely not the only person that feels that way.

You won't see inappropriate and comments directly aimed at hitting the artists personal feelings on sites like ArtStation or CGhub, or pixiv.

Most members following me are super professional and respectful about giving comments, either positive or critical. But there's a big chunk of members that don't give shit to swoop and poop because On Internet, you have the freedom to say anything without consequences. You'll never encounter me in real life face to face so why bother being afraid to say anything?

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Kelly2020 In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-28 07:53:45 +0000 UTC]

My only question would be, "why even waste the energy on these people that don't appreciate your artwork."  I like the fact that you create what you want, how you want.  THAT'S art.  Your artwork is amazing.  I personally feel that even responding to trolls will only encourage them to come back or keep making negative comments.  Because, let's face it.... all they want is attention; good or bad.  Please keep doing artwork in your style and the way you have been.  Also, I would just like to say to all of the people that keep saying stupid things like, "oh we have to pay to see the nipples, I remember when it was free unless you wanted the psd" and other stupid things.  I think those are ignorant requests to ask a professional artist.  I'm sure you don't expect to do your job for free, no matter how much you love it.  So just lay off.  That's the great thing about the internet, you have limitless options to find the kind of artwork you want for free.  You don't need to tear down someone that is sharing their work, because it's not the "full version."  Be thankful that you can see it at all for free.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Kelly2020 [2015-10-28 16:47:20 +0000 UTC]

Amen dude!I however can't stand these self-entitled trolls but occasionally I give them a logical spanking which puts them in their place for some time,lol. 

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-26 12:53:53 +0000 UTC]

Alright. I see your point. Seems to me that it's just a matter of phrasing. Your two examples are basically saying the same thing. I haven't read all the comments on this art but i've seen people with legitimate opinion being shut down by a blinded "fan" trying to defend your art and actually making things worst. The critic of her being over sexualized is pretty legitimate, i like the take on this as long as i don't tell myself "this is Mononoke". Honestly the only toxic comments have seen down there actually liked your work.

I've not been on Da for a very long time and i have like... 0 feedback on my art, good or bad. I can only imagine how tought it is to get negative feedback on a piece you put your heart, soul and blood in. Buuut i'm kind of concern about you objectivity on those comments. You do tend to oversexualize many characters recently and many of my favorite pieces from your galleries are older ones. I really think you should try to do some of those again, that's my personal preference and i would be happy to see that from you.
Plus i do think you have a boob problem on some pieces... (overall strange proportions on sexy parts of the body making them seems weird and unattractive).

Take that from a guy who never had any talent in any art form and struggling to do something with his hands. I still have a lot of respect for people who managed to make a living from their arts weither i like it or not.

And please kick out this "Digital-Diverge", he's not only unbearable for everyone here but he's also making you look bad by blindly insulting anyone trying to make a negative comment. That's not how feedback works. Hope you understand and take it the right way.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-28 00:48:39 +0000 UTC]

You got be kidding me! How are we toxic if have comments like "why does everything have to be about tits", "Oh well this ruined everything" and "Oh I absolutely hate this..". Yep, those comments are not judgmental, contain profound observations, and truly show the up-most of respect for his freedom of expression (I hope you see I'm being sarcastic here). Honestly besides your confusing sentence structure you seem to be fueled by your own personal issues. For example "I've not been on Da for a very long time and i have like... 0 feedback on my art, good or bad" what is the importance of this sentence? How does it relate to him in anyway? Finally how can you say he has a problem with the character's sexualization (which he doesn't and has the right to draw whatever he damn pleases  )  and drawing boobs when half of your own art shows nudity, can you please not throw stones if you live in glass house. 

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Katinae-Chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-28 18:29:03 +0000 UTC]

Hi !
Yep, I'm totally related to Sharp-Chivers. No, that's not the reason why i'm here to respond to you, i'll get to this. No. I won't accept critisism on my english speaking just like you do precedently, it's not the point and not being a native english speaker shouldn't force me to shut the fuck up. Plus, attacking me on personnal stuff won't touch me on anyways, so do not try to.
Sooooooo. get to the point.



I am TOTALLY OKAY with Zeronis doing Nsfw stuff, i like it, just I am recently desapointed in some  works, like Darkstalkers girl, not on the SUBJECT but on the proportions, positions, i am totally fine with anatomy adaptation, but Zeronis choose a realistic style, if he make a weird legs position. it will look like a broken leg position.

Well, back to the point. The first problems is Every of your responses, is not on real arguments, you are only attacking people on personal stuff. And not even justified. 
Like, you said "you say he has a problem with the character's sexualization and drawing boobs when half of your own art shows nudity, can you please not throw stones if you live in glass house. Hum.... He seem to have a problem with Sexualised Characters not belonging to the artist. You can check in anyway you want every characters he's drawing belong to him, and he do whatever the fuck he want with it. Sooo, come on there was no argument behind that ! 
The problem here, is that Zeronis decided to intepret a Character belonging to a film, welll known and that he decided to reeeally change her. To make her sexuallized. And still, it could be totally Okay ! (like you will probably attack on myself to prove your pseudo-argument i say it first ) I tried some. The real problem here is in fact that Zeronis, (but most likely his fans... I don't know what it do to you, but anyway) seem to not be able to accept the fact that some people can't appreciate when characters they like get sexualized when they were totally not mean to.

It's seem that the only problem here, is that Zeronis, but in fact most likely his fans can't stand critism, argumented critisism, and as we're on internet not so argumented critisism. Can't accept it altought it is warranted, or can't even ignore the one that aren't. I mean, come one, if you post stuff on internet, especially on da, it wil be full of trolls and you can't change that. Take what's good in It, throw what's not and that's it, I know it can be hard to take critisism on stuff you work really hard on, but yeah. that the world we live in and come to trash talk every single person that spend time and care enough about zeronis's work to make constructive advice or reproach, what they are probably doing hoping that it will help him get to what they really like or came here for, Isn't probably the best things to do. 

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Katinae-Chivers [2015-10-28 22:11:25 +0000 UTC]

Okay I have no clue who you are and I honestly am okay with that, you could be related to Hitler for all I care. For starters I 'm glad to hear your okay with NSFW stuff and understand he likes drawing that type of stuff he wants and has that right. However, like you said "every characters he's drawing belong to him" then who are we to say that is interpretation of the character is not just as meaningful as their interpretation, seriously you all act as if he flat out made her a slut. Also the fact is that all humans have the right to free expression and can't you see that some of these comments are taking that away from him with their own self entitled ideas. As for me attacking people that is completely away from the truth. All I have done is challenged views, give honesty advice (go check her profile she has dozens of blocked comments and is very aggressive, this are all patterns of someone who shows sighs of having a mental problem), provide criticism to the critics. Finally "what they are probably doing hoping that it will help him get to what they really like or came here for, Isn't probably the best things to do" but is that what he wants and his 5,000 plus fans that like this art and his sexy style?(Answer: A BIG F*CKING NO) Maybe you should ask yourself that question. ( of course he does different types of art and I certainly love him for that but yelling at him and hurting his feelings is only going to make him sour and filled with hate)

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Katinae-Chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-28 22:29:35 +0000 UTC]

First : Challenging Views = Saying people are mental ill. Well that, that's a great argument challenge indeed dude. 

And it seem you did no read my comment at all in fact. I SAID it was OKAY for him to DRAW her as he WANTED TO. 
If you think artist should never even received critism or advice, or any point of views on their work at all unless it's ass kissing then it's fine but you probably live in a magical worl with shiny unicorn. It's fine then. 

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Katinae-Chivers [2015-10-28 22:36:14 +0000 UTC]

Again you do not understand. My advice did from hatred it comes from concern, I have seen this type of thinking lead to horrific ends. Yes criticism okay but when that artist HIMSELF says the comment are HURTING him than that feedback is formed from hate. As for the kissing part, I have shown my criticism more than a few time. The difference is I know how to be a human being and consider is feelings. My god, you people are so freaking heartless.

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-28 18:24:28 +0000 UTC]

Alright good. Keep on with the Ad hominem. First of... Okay my phrasing can be off, i'm not an native english speaker, if anything i say seems confusing i apologize.

Now let's keep on the quotes:
"I love how good she looks in your style."
"It's technically impressive, as is all your work, but something about it just doesn't capture that Princess Mononoke feel."
"its so conflicting because this art, the actual technical skill is impressive but she barely looks like herself :c her real outfit was perfect"
Not toxic.

"Spectacular"
"no..."
"Oh well this ruined everything"
Not toxic but not very useful as a critique.

"Just what my favourite movie needed.  A slutted up female character. "
"Ugh, another asshole who gets offended and talks shit before they know what theyer saying."
"Holy crap, I don't think you can be anymore wrong. This way of thinking is very toxic and a lead to some bad things, example communism."
"Honestly I do think your a worthless troll that would rather cause pain than actually be supportive, I come to this conclusion by going with your own explanations, you might be suffering from a mental abnormality."
Now THAT is toxic.

And i've read all the comments now, ALL of them. Most of them are very supportive, that's great. Some of them don't like the depiction but like the art. A lot of comments are from 2 persons insulting everyone saying anything negative about the art, and a few are just non constructive negative comments. So i'm sorry but i don't see "the hate" apart from a few people that have the right to put a negative comment on a piece. Respect of the freedom of expression is not about blind love for everything that was put effort in, it's also giving the author feedback, good or bad, so he can continue and improve himself. It can be constructive or not but everyone have the right to say what they think. Especially when the piece have so much people loving it, Zero will not die for a couple of negative comments.

Now to address the Ad hominem: first i said i had no feedback on my pieces for Zeronis to understand a bit of context: I'm not big, i don't know what he feel having such feedback, but i can give my humble opinion on the subject.
Second, you're saying " Finally how can you say he has a problem with the character's sexualization and drawing boobs when half of your own art shows nudity". Nudity and sexuallization are two very different things you can have a fully clothed pin-up and have it oversexualized and you can have a nude women without any sexual inuendos whatsoever. There are 2 of my drawings that are sexualized: one is a succubus and the other a Satyr, both species known for their sexual appetite. In the case of San, she's not known for being a lusty person and that is why it is off for some people and "out of character" to see her like this. And that i can understand. And i never said there was anything wrong about drawing boobs i just said disproportionate ones were weird and warned Zero about this bad habit.

And yes, Zeronis can draw whatever he likes, and as i said i respect him a lot for all his works. But doing what he want doesn't mean nobody can be negative about his work, that's just what feedback is.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-28 21:51:10 +0000 UTC]

First off saying my the the one sentence quotes are toxic, Imagine if I would walk up to while your doing something you love and said "You look ugly" then walk away without justifying my claim which for most is the clear example of a toxic comment. Second my comment about that persons mental health is not based on hate, I may not like her but because I'm a Humanist with copious amount of information regarding mental health. I simply see a distinct and self destructive pattern in that person's behavior. Believe me when I say this when I want to be mean I WILL BE MEAN, what I did was simply told what I thought regarding my knowledge about mental health and tried to give some advice. Furthermore I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just challenging their view, but is interesting that you do not see your own bias when regarding comments. So I guess telling someone to fuck off is okay when someone politely asks them to chill? Also if someones complains about someone overacting regarding something as harmless as ART that would be considered toxic? Maybe what you need to do is take a step back and look at this in different perspectives. As for sexual vs. nudity, what I was trying to illustrate is that everyone has their line in the sand for I more liberal while you and some others are more conservative (which is fine if we don't try to push are own views on others), it obvious that the artist has his own line in the sand and who are we to judge or "warn" him for that? Finally you say that your comments are just feedback but even feedback can be soulless and plain hurtful, just ask a few of the commenting artist in this post and you can see they to now this. Think of this way, a man stabs another man and is arrested. The kill defends himself by saying the blade is meant for cooking and could never kill anyone but blade DID kill someone and even thought its meant for cooking that doesn't it's excluded from harming someone. Even though you and the others can say your comments are only feed back does that mean it still can hurt Zero? (Answer: yes and Zero was obvious hurt so I wonder who are criminals in this situation. Quick answer you and the rest who can't understand the power of you won words) In closing when someone tries to control the ideas and actions of others (aka your ideas regarding Zero art even when he told you your opinions hurtful, not welcomed and hurtful) they are no longer the hero but is the villain even if you have a "justification" for you actions (your "feedback"), The story The Watchmen illustrates this perfectly if you want have an example.

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-28 22:48:23 +0000 UTC]

And i thought my english was bad... Wow sorry, took me a while to understand what you were trying to say. Mostly i didn't.

I'm just going to wrap this up because you don't seem to understand the concept of an opinion on art. Yes comments can be hurtful, this is the internet you won't cut away from that. If you can't stand a handful of negative comments maybe you shouldn't be posting art here. The comments i've read are nowhere near as bas as you make it look. And for the record i don't find this piece offensive in any way, i've seen waay worst and this is rather soft. All i'm saying is that i understand why people can find this too be too much of a twisted version of San. They have the right to say it and there is no need to witch hunt for any negative comments.

I understand that Zero can be hurt, that is why i asked him, he said he was sensitive, fine. Him not being able to take critisism is the line where i stop having respect for him, or at least losing a lot of it. He's a great artist i can't deny it. Do i agree with every statement he makes ? Certainly not. The one biased by his opinion is you not me, at least i make the effort of looking on both sides of the coin.

And i don't care what background you say you have or whatever, you don't tell people they have mental issues here, people get angry online all the time and you're definitely not the one to judge for that kind of stuff.

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-28 23:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Okay why not. Daughter of Stalin. If that give me the power to mess up with your brain enought to make you loose all sense of natural english speech i guess that's pretty great.

So now people are bad for not calling random people on the internet "mentally deficient". Now that i know my karma will improve a lot. Seeing how you lost all sense of speech in front of such mean comments from me i think you too should consider seeing someone because i think you might have mental health issues too. Am i doing this right ?
And with 4.5 millions views on his page i think Zeronis will survive the dozen negative comments he get on this art. If you think you have to defend him with your heart and soul for a couple of "no..." well i think you will waste much time in your life. He's a grown up he can respond by himself. Heck he even did to my comment and i found it was pretty cool of him... Before you showed up to prove me how hopeless this site was.

Anyway that was pretty fun.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-29 07:33:30 +0000 UTC]

Before I totally forget about you and your relative. I have one last thing to say, if I'm wasting my time defending Zero from someone like you that does not notice their own corrupt biases, some like you who losses respect in Zero for just reacting to your hateful words than say "Heck he even did to my comment and i found it was pretty cool of him" just to save face, and than realizes that I was right about a lot of things so you just play it cool as if you did not see the stupidity in your own comments than I'm totally fine with that. As for my mental health I will take your suggestion under advisement but the difference between me and her is that I don't show constant a pattern of blocking, trolling, and telling people to fuck off just being told to chill out. I hope you and your relative find peace and stop trying to push your ideas on others. Bye!

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-29 08:41:58 +0000 UTC]

All i was trying to convey is that, in my opinion, you should listen to other peoples opinions. Never tried to push my ideas to others. In fact i defended my opinion solely because you were attacking it.

It was your opinion, i don't agree with it, you call me daughter of Stalin, you used broken weird english, my mind did not change. Oh and your english have improved a lot since your last comment. You have a reason for that ? I'm genuinely curious.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-29 09:24:27 +0000 UTC]

I was serious before about ending this but I guess can spare you one last reply. The bad grammar thing was half me not giving a fuck and the other half trying to get you two to show more of your hateful sides. I sort told this to your relative/friend in a reply that contained a horribly written comment she wrote which I did corrections to just to show how even in her idea of victory she showed complete ignorance. Also the whole Stalin thing was was my honest reaction to the crap you said but Zero 's feelings, it still shocks me that you can say those things but be so sensitive when I just mention the weak points in your logic and your weird sentence structure. "All i was trying to convey is that, in my opinion, you should listen to other peoples opinions" I do but their is a difference between having opinions and blaming someone for being "weak and sensitive" for not liking what you have to say. "Never tried to push my ideas to others" REALLY, what about your idea of criticism versus what Zero thought and your idea who are the toxic people. "In fact i defended my opinion solely because you were attacking it" if you call challenging your logic and words attacking you than believe what you want. This the my finally reply so I guess this is the end. See you never!

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Sharp-chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-29 10:01:38 +0000 UTC]

I know this won't be your last reply because you can't let me have the last word on this.

Yes i saw your "correcting comment" and it wasn't relevant. We told you that we are not native speakers so of course our phrasing can be a bit off. Plus there wasn't any grammatical incorrectness in her comment you just thought it looked better the way you wrote it (i personnaly didn't).

" I still have a lot of respect for people who managed to make a living from their arts weither i like it or not." Yes i think Zero is overly sensitive, yes i think he can improve himself, yes i think telling everyone to f*ck of for a couple of mean comments (out of a hundred good ones) is overreacting, yes i do respect a person less if he can't take any critisism but all of this is my opinion and i still respect him a lot because he have managed to achieve what i could solely dream to achieve. In my point of view good comments give yoou the wish to continue and bad comments give you the wish to improve upon yourself. Of course some comments cross the line but out of the thousands of good feedback and support a bit of negativity is not that hurtful. Life is harsh and sometime a good punch in the face is the best way to prepare yourself for the next one.

So yeah i took this whole story a bit far because it was pretty fun to argue. But you really think i'm worst than someone who killed countless humans because i posted a rather constructive opinion ? Even positive about the art, all i did was suggesting some things i would like. SUGGESTING he's not obligated to do them.

Anyway it's really more enjoyable to argue when we can actually understand what you're saying. Keep up with that english.

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Sharp-chivers [2015-10-28 23:22:53 +0000 UTC]

Okay, the reason why my English was bad is because one of relatives, that I have never had contact before this whole thing, decided to pitch in and I was to perplexed by how one family can some many cruel people in it, seriously are you two the daughters of Stalin. Second, I love the fact that because Zero is a more sensitive person than you or I you instantly loose all respect for him. Talk about having a cold heart. As for this statement "The one biased by his opinion is you not me, at least i make the effort of looking on both sides of the coin" this can be any more wrong than it is, if you were telling the truth you would 1. still respect Zero 2.Understand that your words have weight to them. Finally my background does count, because I have meet people like her studied them, try to help them by working at church support group, and tragically hearing they hanged themselves after falling back into madness. Warnings can't be ignored (aka her behavior), if she is suffering than she needs help. I am strong believer in lives matter, even if I don't know her I will have a guilty conscious if I at least warn her of possible risks. I guess you would not understand this seeing you don't even care about or respect someones feelings. God damn, you and your relative are just baddest of people.   

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Katinae-Chivers In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-10-28 23:44:04 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry to hear that me and my Stalin dad were messing up with your english vocabulary and... your complete brain it seem. I was just challenging your argument. 

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Katinae-Chivers [2015-10-29 00:20:24 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry to hear that- my dad Stalin and I- were messing up with your -E-nglish (the "E" is capsulized in English) vocabulary and( no need for the ..., it only confuses logical readers)- your brain-. It was just-as- challenging -as-your argument. ( - -= my corrections, you see I don't wast my time giving a decently written argument to those I know who are too"challnged" to understand my more complex stuff). Good day my simple friend!

P.s Please don't make yourself a easy target for being labeled as a entitled brat, very smart people will only take advantage of that level of naivety and allow them create your foolish downfall by using your own misplaced cockiness! 

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Digital-Diverge In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 07:25:25 +0000 UTC]

Dont worry, theyre just sexually frustrated. Once they git some they might not trigger so easily. 
Now if only you could do Sinon from sword art online, life would be good. T_T
Woof    

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TFSkuller In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 06:47:02 +0000 UTC]

ikr

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Halorian In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 05:23:32 +0000 UTC]

Sorry if what I said came across as offensive or rude. I really do like the piece; it's beautiful and exciting. I just thought you might appreciate an opinion, and I have little to say regarding technical application: it's very well done.

If you want specifics, the wolf in the background radiates such a fantastic element of fierceness, adding to the fact that her near-vacant expression and bloody lips express an almost vampiric mystery and horror. On top of that, the reds in the image really pop out of the screen, acting as a such a strong contrast to the soft greens and blues that make up the forest.

Plus the meeps are cute as hell >.<

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Mishaphantomhive In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 04:00:43 +0000 UTC]

I love your version. She looks wicked!

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Salvatos In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 03:40:15 +0000 UTC]

Perspective is an interesting thing. Just call the piece "Random chick cosplaying as Princess Mononoke" instead and the issue just vanishes. There's nothing inherently wrong with the painting itself, but some people seem to like being offended by the simplest things.

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Yumeki-senpai In reply to Zeronis [2015-10-25 00:43:04 +0000 UTC]

Always liked your style, I even prefer your version of princess mononoke because u have your PERSONAL and UNIQUE style !!!
keep inspiring us and keep making us dream !!! that's what makes you a true artist. 

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Bellum3rd-Mass In reply to Yumeki-senpai [2015-10-28 00:50:22 +0000 UTC]

I could hug you if I could.Your comment is the best!

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Yumeki-senpai In reply to Bellum3rd-Mass [2015-11-03 01:24:44 +0000 UTC]

thanks and sorry for the  late answer :3
but look a hug  

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