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xAjelandrox In reply to NAH223445566 [2017-04-07 04:42:50 +0000 UTC]

Seguramente lo habras entendido pero aqui lo tradusco para los que no

En la pelicula de 2017

-Los unicornios tendran cuernos puntiagudos
-Los pegasos un nuevo estilo de alas
-Y los terrestres..... ¿nuevas orejas?

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NAH223445566 In reply to xAjelandrox [2017-04-07 13:39:37 +0000 UTC]

Aahhh, todavía me pregunto cuál es el chiste de publicar cosas en inglés si el grupo es latino.

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MarcusTheDeer In reply to No1MporXant [2017-03-27 15:48:37 +0000 UTC]

Earth ponies are the most commen in the show!

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No1MporXant In reply to MarcusTheDeer [2017-03-27 19:35:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and that's just plain sad, because they've only used a hand full of different species of Equines that they could use in this franchise, they've mostly just used Earth Ponies, Pegasi, Unicorns & Alicorns, yet they still haven't done much with Donkeys, Mules, Zebras & Bat-Ponies, and they still have yet to revamp the G1 Flutter-Ponies[Butterfly-Winged Ponies] and there are so many other species that mostly can be found in mythologies from all over the world, I mean leaks from the 2017 MLP Movie have revealed the use of Hippogriffs[Gryphons with Rear-Halves of Ponies] & Sea-Ponies(who's Designs are more based on Hippocamps[Greek Mermaid-Ponies] than G1's Pony-Headed Seahorses), but there are still so many more that they could have been using Seasons Ago.
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Like Hippalectryons[Greek Hybrid - Front-Halves of Horses/Rear-Halves of Chickens], Kelpies[Scottish Lake Water-Horses], Longmas[Chinese Winged Dragon-Horses], Each-uisge[River Water-Horses similar to Kelpies, but far more vicious], Tikbalangs[Philippines Anthro-Horse, Equine equivalent of Minotaurs], Inkanyambas[South African Horse-Headed Sea-Serpent], Malora[aka the Brazilian "Headless Mule", expect it has Fire for a Head], Centaurs[specifically Equine versions since Tirek was closer to a Bovine-like Centaur], Onocentaurs[Donkey-like Centaurs], Ichthyocentaurs[Centaurs that are Part-Human, Part-Horse & Part-Fish], Allocamelus[Doney-Headed Camel], Nuckelavee[Orcadian Horse-like Demon], Sleipnir[Norse 8-Legged Horse of Odin], Uchchaihshravas[Hindu 7-Headed Horse], and of course the Twonicorns[2-Horned Unicorns, not to be confused with "Bicorn", which is actually an Evil Flesh-Eating European Mythological Cow-Panther Monster].
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Any ways this franchise would be some much greater if they included more characters that are based off of all these other Species of Equines, maybe they could more likely do that if they do more stuff that takes place Outside of Equestria, seriously a whole Planet full of Mythological/Magical Creatures, and they still haven't completely covered that 1 entire Country in the last 6 to 7 Years!

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-11 06:16:23 +0000 UTC]

If you don't mind, I'm going to "borrow" this list of myths, for two reasons.

1 - I like mythology, and somehow I've missed most of these, so I want to look them up a bit more.

2 - They might be useful for MLP fanfic writing, if I do anything with a mythology theme or something some day.

But like you suggest, I have this fan-theory that there ARE tons more creatures, most o fthem just happen to be in the parts
we have NOT Seen in the show yet... the upcoming movie basically confirms this by having several yet-unseen species,
and taking place in a location we HAVEN'T seen in the show yet, and in the few places we HAVE seen, they've added the (not so many) species
we DO have confirmed, such as the Breezies, Changeling hive, Tirek and his brother (forgot the name).

So some of these COULD exist, just not in the parts we've seen or heard of yet, but I agree, we DO need more species / sub-species,
AND more attention to the ones we already have (bat-ponies, zebras, donkeys, mules). 

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-13 03:49:01 +0000 UTC]

Go Right Ahead! The more People who know of these Creatures & Beings the Better I say!

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-13 05:29:11 +0000 UTC]

Exactly my thought as well. Mythology is fun / interesting, and there's simply (excuse the language) SO F*CKING MUCH of it,
especially once you start including ALL countries / religions / tribes etc... All mythologies of the world, and all variations of them...

almost impossible amounts of stuff  

I love all sorts of mythology, supernatural stuff, cryptozoology (probably misspelled that, but I think you know what I mean), alien stuff...

As for this list of horse-myths - copied and saved, so now I can look them up, 
and maybe use some for fanfics later. 

For example, I could have Twilight read mythology books in some story, or Daring Do could come across some old legends
that turn out to NOT be myths, or something like that  

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-13 06:39:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, All THAT stuff is a veritable gold mine of ideas for things to use in Story Telling, too bad not enough writers of Actual Movies/TV can come up with some good ideas based off of or inspired by all of this stuff.

As for me, aside from Equine-Deities & the Equines of Deities, like Sleipnir[Norse], Uchchaihshravas[Hindu], Arion[Greek], Haizum[Islamic], Tulpar[Turkish], and more(check HERE for more listings, and HERE as an extension), I believe that for the MLP:FiM World, the only other species of Magical Pony that could be More Powerful than even the Alicorn(Winged-Unicorn), would be the Twonicorn(2-Horned Unicorn), because I believe that their 2nd Horn would be the Magical Equine equivalent of the Human's 3rd Eye, something that can be found in Hindu & Chinese beliefs.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-13 12:03:25 +0000 UTC]

I've heard of the Twonicorn, and I'm somewhat falimiliar with various versions of the Third Eye,
and well... I agree, it does sound plausible that it could be something equal / similar to that,
and that Twonmicorns COULD be even more powerful than (or at least equal to) Alicorns,
if they existed in MLP. At the VERY least, they'd be somewhere between Uni and Ali in terms of power,
having the extra horn INSTEAD of the wings basically.

Also, thanks for the lists, I'll be sure to save those... Will come in VERY handy both for random for-fun research
and actual use-in-stories research, especially in the future, as I plan to expand beyond MLP fanfics at some point
and write some none-MLP sci-fi and fantasy stuff, which could easily be made to involve mythological creatures,
such as most fantasy stories... and with those lists, I can find some of the less-used ones,
and give my stories SOME uniqueness compared to most mainstream fantasy stuff.  

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-13 19:46:28 +0000 UTC]

Well in many cases the 3rd Eye is often described as something that is obtained by achieving a state of great enlightenment, something that enables a heightened perception of all existence, to become aware of things that go beyond what the physical senses perceive, to access great spiritual truths that can not be learned in the physical world, and to unlock various hidden psychic powers within the mind, like being able to see into other planes of existence, spiritual realms, other dimensions, even into the future, and make it easier to perform astral projection, but the kind of powers one receives varies from wielder to wielder, and rarely there are children who sometimes are actually Born with their 3rd Eye already unlocked.

Taking that kind of stuff into consideration with MLP:FiM Ponies, if the "2nd Horn" of the Twonicorn was comparable to the 3rd Eye of Humans, then the Pony would have obtained it by achieving a heightened state of Magical Enlightenment, like they gain a greater perception of mystical forces that go beyond what most other Ponies/Magical creatures are even aware of, and as evidence of the Pony's greater understanding of Magic, they unlock their 2nd Horn thus becoming a Twonicorn, granting them access to Magical Forces that go beyond the Normal perception of what Magic even is, and could even allow them to draw in Magic from the very space around them & absorb it into themselves via their 2nd Horn, allowing them to wield power greater than that of the Alicorn, the kind of power that would allow them to battle against Deities & Still be able to hold their all, or for short, Wield "Magic Beyond Magic", and some Pony Foals could even be born with their 2nd Horn already unlocked, though That would be even more Rare than a Foal being Born an Alicorn, at least that's the way I would depict an MLP:FiM Style Twonicorn, if they even include them in the Official Franchise.

Anyways Good Luck with all of your Future Fan-Fics knowing all of those creatures/beings you know now.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-14 06:12:07 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and now I have the stupidest idea / theory ever...

Based on what you said, and your ideas of a MLP-version of a Twonicorn...

There already is one. We just never heard him described as such.

(Note - This is just a silly, REALLY far-fetched, dumb idea I got by mixing various fan-theories,
and should NOT be taken seriously in any way)

Discord.

1 - There are multiple versions of a theory that he used to be a pony (maybe even Starswirl),
but somehow his body and mind got corrupted, and became what he is today.

2 - He DOES have TWO horns - one looks like a twisted alicorn-horn, the other more like a deer horn, but still - two horns.

3 - He has a unique form of magic (Chaos magic) that no other known creature in Equestria can use,
at least not to the same extent as he can.

4 -  He is able to perceive (and interact with / travel between) other dimensions in both space and time,
including having his home in a chaos-filled pocket dimension. He is also able to distort reality at will,
so not only can he perceive different realities, he can manipulate them.

Discord is a corrupted Twonicorn.

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-14 14:25:20 +0000 UTC]

I know you said that this isn't supposed to be taken seriously or anything, but honestly the Draconequus seems to be too much of a mix-up of too many different animals to actually be classified as a True "Pony" - or any other species/type of animal for that matter(also Discord has a Gazelle Horn, not a Unicorn Horn, plus Deer technically have Antlers, which are very different from Horns), so I'm afraid Discord doesn't count as a Twonicorn, because he's not a Pony.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-14 14:48:57 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I know, just a silly little half-assed joke-theory ^^

And, the "used to be a pony" theory is just that - it states that he USED to be a pony.
He then got corrupted, and basically started "frankensteining" his own body,
replacing the pony parts with other animal parts for god-knows-what-reason,
and eventually he ended up as the creature he is know - a mix of various parts.

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-15 05:03:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I think that the "Used to be a Pony" theory may have been Debunked a while back anyways, I think that if nothing else Discord's Origin MIGHT be something similar to that of 'Aku' from 'Samurai Jack', like Discord was originally just a big blob of Chaos Magic floating in the depths of Space, and later on that blob developed a Subconscious Mind of it's very own, then eventually managed to Materialize a Physical Body to Contain All of that Chaos Magic & aim it in a chosen direction, and that lead to the start of Discord the Draconequus, that sounds like a much better theory to me at least.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-15 06:30:00 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that theory (and variations of it) is much better,
but I basically like ALL theories. That one just makes (a lot) more sense than him starting as a pony and frankensteining himself.

Now, my favorite variation of the "shapeless chaos" origin goes something roughly like this:

Discord starts as a shapeless mass of chaos energy, 
and at some point he starts evolving and gains sentience and consciousness. 

After that, he becomes a mischievous "spirit", haunting lifeless objects and / or creatures, like a ghost possessing 
people and objects in ghost stories. But, he's not satisfied with that, and wants his own body.

SO, he starts playing his games, luring creatures into bets and such, just like he does in the show.

Only, back then, his games where even more twisted, and he made sure you'd always come back for just one more game...
Each time yo play, stakes get higher... he lets you win a few times, loose some, win some more...

Until one day, he proposes the ultimate bet... "Would you risk... Your right arm?"

And then, you loose. He takes your arm. Literally. and makes it part of himself.

Then, repeat process with new "victim" elsewhere, and by the time he reaches the ultimate bet,
THAT time the bet is the creatures LEFT arm, next victim is a leg, and so on, until he has a almost-complete body.

He just needs ONE more part, and find a pony, or gazelle, or whatever his head is...

Plays his games for a while, long enough to make the victim desperate enough for thrills...

Offers his ultimate game - "Would you risk... Your Head?"


This would also explain why Celestia and Luna dislikes him so much in the beginning,
and why they turned him to stone (multiple times).

He's basically far more twisted and evil than he seems - or rather, he USED to be, in the very beginning,
and over the thousands of years since, he's "mellowed down" to the random chaos and pranks he's doing now,
but he still also DOES like to play his twisted games - just not betting lives or body parts anymore.

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-15 17:39:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah....I don't think that Discord was really THAT Evil, or was Truly Evil to begin with, he always seemed to me like he was simply a Mischievous Trickster who disliked the Laws of Physics/the Rules of Logic and he just wanted to have Fun, and he wanted everyone else to be able to enjoy the kind of "FUN" that he liked so much, and since Ponies back then seemed so irrational, superstitious & distasteful to things that were so Different, the Ponies would exaggerate/jump to conclusions and consider Discord to be a Demonic Monster, but over time they've become more understanding towards things that are different, so they now think of him as being more of a big, annoying, powerful dork instead of an actual Monster.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-15 18:30:53 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I agree, but I personally see this as a kind of "in-show myth" theory.

Not the ACTUAL way it happened, more of a "scary story" version used to scare kids,

a bit similar to how Satan is portrayed as the ultimate evil in most stories, but in the oldest ones
he started as an angel.

Or how Count Vlad inspired the vampire Dracula.

Or how Frankensteins monster is seen as just that - a monster. Despite the fact he was more likely just afraid and confused,
and the people were afraid and confused too, because they didn't understand him.

I think Discords origin is something similar to that.

In the past, he was misunderstood and his actions retold in exaggerated ways, rumors spread and grew wilder with each retelling,
but now in the present, he's more understood, and finally has something he's been missing all his life - actual friends.

Plus, the darker versions work nicely for grim-dark fanfics. In the actual show, he's just a overpowered dork, like you say,
but in fanfics, anything is possible, and his powers DO allow for some dark, twisted versions in grimdark fics,
such as the theory I mentioned, and other dark variations of him and his powers.

Then again, he also works perfectly for silly comedies, plain slice-of-life stories, adventures, dramas....

Discord and his powers can be "shaped" and "adapted" into basically ANY kind of story...
and so can most of the MLP world, actually, which is what I like so much about it...

You can take the ponies, and put them in virtually ANY situation, and it still doesn't feel out-of-place.

the MLP universe is so universal, you can do basically ANYTHING with it, which is great for fanfic writers like myself.  

AND they gave us the Equestria Girls parallel universe as well, which A) gives us a human version of the world, and B) confirms multiverse in MLP,
meaning that, in theory, every single fanfic ever written IS technically canon, just in a parallel dimension.

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-17 18:35:02 +0000 UTC]

I suppose that would theoretically be true.

Anyways returning to the subject of Twonicorns, I believe that Twonicorn Ascension would be more difficult to do then Alicorn Ascension, due to Alicorn Ascension apparently being done by gaining an Epiphany through Harmony, Love & Friendship, and that would be easier to achieve because you'd have support from your Friends & Loved Ones, where as Twonicorn Ascension would done by achieving a Magical Nirvana through Isolation, Serenity & Mastery of "Mind Over Matter", which would be harder to achieve because it would be something you'd have to do all on your own, basically the two Ascensions would be Polar Opposites, and once you Ascend into an Alicorn, you can never Ascend into a Twonicorn.

Perhaps the best way to compare the two Ascensions would be to look at the Branched Evolution of the Pokemon known as "Slowpoke", when a Shellder bites a Slowpoke on the Tail, it evolves into a "Slowbro" and even though it still maintains some Psychic Abilities, most of it's enhancements are Physical, much like how when a Pony Ascends into an Alicorn, it gains the powers of an Earth Pony, a Pegasus & a Unicorn all rolled into one(even though Cadence & Twilight haven't shown any signs of possessing Earth Pony Strength like Celestia & Luna), but when a "King's Rock" is placed on a Slowpoke's Head & the Shellder bites Slowpoke on the Head, it then evolves into a "Slowking" and though it does gain some Physical Enhancements, it's greater capabilities are Mental, such as heighten intelligence, more powerful psychic abilities, etc., That would be similar to what it would be like when a Pony Ascends into a Twonicorn, with a superior understanding of Magic, access to greater Mystical Forces, and Magic Powers that greatly surpasses those of Alicorns, despite Twonicorns having bodies that naturally are Not as Physically Strong as Alicorns.

These differences would make it to where Alicorns are better suited to defending & leading all other species safely, while Twonicorns are better suited to protecting the World from Threats too great for any other species of Pony to handle, but due to their immense power, relatively peaceful ways & the fact that they are so Rare, the Twonicorn would not interfere unless if it was Absolutely Necessary, which would explain why we haven't seen them in the Official Franchise yet, if they were ever brought into the Official Franchise that is.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-17 23:32:05 +0000 UTC]

Hm.. interesting theory, and as far as I can see, it all makes perfect sense.
I'm familiar with Slowpoke and its evolutions (used to be a huge pokémon fan back in gen1, and still a medium-level fan to this day),
and I agree that that would be the best comparison here.

Like you say, a Twonicorn would have to reach a "Nirvana" state, and that would only be possible
through complete solitude... Meaning, in theory, that there MIGHT BE a Twonicorn somewhere in Equestria,
hiding somewhere in a cave like a true hermit, where he/she spends his/her time meditating to stay in the ascended state,
until such time that a threat appears that is so great and powerful (trixie ref. not intended) that not even the combined
power of the alicorns can handle it, and the Twonicorn is the only one who can do it.

It's even possible (but far less likely) that some such threat already happened, but on such scale that
no other creatures were even able to comprehend it happening.

I believe we might have a bit of a "Fermi Paradox" situation.

(A theory that basically states aliens probably exist, but ignore us because we're
so far beneath them in evolution, and we can't comprehend their existence because they are so far ahead of us in their evolution.
Basically, compare humans to ants - We see them, but we ignore them - and they see us, but they can't understand anything we do.
Now, imagine WE'RE the ants, and some alien race is the "humans". They see us, but ignore us - and we see them, but we can't even 
realize that we DO, because our minds can't comprehend them.)

...actually, if you're unfamiliar with Fermi Paradox, just google it... my explanation is just a bad recap 
of a youtube video explaining it.

In any case, my point is, maybe there HAS been some near-god-level events,
taken care of by the Twonicorn, but it happened on such a grand scale, 
it wasn't even possible for anyone else to notice it.

For example, it IS possible that some near-god or godlike creature tried to come to Equestria,
but was stopped before it even arrived.

I know it's a REALLY far-fetched idea, and REALLY stretches the realms of possibility and logic, 
but as an extreme example, it IS possible - the odds are just astronomically small.  

(By the way, thanks for a very interesting discussion and some really nice theories. Feels good to find someone on a "higher" level,
someone to discuss "deeper" theories like this with. Always fun to exercise the mind a bit.  
If we keep this up, I might need to +watch you and keep in contact.)

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-18 02:49:54 +0000 UTC]

Well you never really know, I mean the Ponies have been able to travel to Other Dimensions & stuff, so what would be to stop Outer Dimensional Demons, Deities, Cosmic Entities, etc., from coming to the Pony World threatening to Destroy Pony-Kind, or steal their Magic or whatever, and the Twonicorns were the ones who would stop them so long as there was no one else who could handle them, and I was thinking that the Twonicorns would live more like "Tibetan Monks" than Hermits, because it would better fit the theme of "Pursuing Magical Enlightenment", in fact I actually wrote a Fan-Fic about what it would be like if there was only one Twonicorn left in All of the Pony World, and a World-Ending threat was returning to Equestria, if you'd like to read it, click the link HERE , and you're right, it does feel good to discuss such things with someone who has a broader range of thinking.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-18 06:54:55 +0000 UTC]

A more tibetan-monk-style approach makes sense too, yeah..
I said hermit because I focused mainly on the complete solitude part,
and forgot about about monks.. silly me.. 

Anyway - Read the description for the story, and definitely caught my curiosity.
BUT, I'm somewhat busy at the moment, and I feel like I want to give it time enough
to read the whole thing in one go, which will take some time, because I'm not the fastest reader...
I mean, I read a lot, I love it, but..  for some reason, I never really learned any of those "faster reading" techniques,
I prefer to take my time and really immerse myself in the reading.
Sure it takes longer, but I have the time. No school or higher education, done with those things,
and no work, due to being in early retirement for medical reasons (I'm 28),
so my entire day consists of mostly free time, which I spend reading, gaming, watching movies and shows,
"hanging out" on social medias, writing my own fanfics, and so on.

So here's my plan - I've put the story in my "read later" collection on FimFic,
and I'll give it a full read someday this week, but not today.

 
Probably during the weekend, on Saturday or Sunday 
I have a feeling it's gonna do nicely as a weekend read.

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-18 07:02:42 +0000 UTC]

Fair Enough.

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TP-Night In reply to No1MporXant [2017-04-18 07:07:56 +0000 UTC]

Once I've read it, I'll leave a comment on it with my opinion and thoughts,
and maybe a "mini review"  

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No1MporXant In reply to TP-Night [2017-04-18 17:44:25 +0000 UTC]

OK.

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Maverickwolfzx In reply to De-Lupe [2017-03-31 06:19:56 +0000 UTC]

A new hat?

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MediumSizeTex In reply to De-Lupe [2017-03-27 03:01:25 +0000 UTC]

Got it in one.

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ZSparkonequus In reply to IBAIPshow [2017-03-25 23:13:39 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I updated to the complete one.

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