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Published: 2016-08-28 18:23:45 +0000 UTC; Views: 25299; Favourites: 283; Downloads: 443
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Description Still playing around with Iray. Trying to find that delicate balance between oily and soft skin. This one has been done for awhile, but I've been hanging onto it because I'm not sure if I like it or not. I'd be interested to know which look you prefer better, or if you like them equally. This one is the slightly oily version of her skin, and here is the soft skin version .  I may end up using both versions to some degree. We'll see.

Thank you so much for your interest in my artwork, and faving if you care to do so. I appreciate it very much. 
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Comments: 119

deristad [2016-08-29 01:07:47 +0000 UTC]

Fern looks great with either skin. She's one hot jedi!

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0biwanken0bie In reply to deristad [2016-08-29 20:54:27 +0000 UTC]

Ooo... Thank you so much!

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PDSmith In reply to ??? [2016-08-29 00:30:27 +0000 UTC]

Coloured skin isn't easy. I know, I've tried a lot. Translucency is the key to the nightmare! I'd say between the two you're on the right track for looks, I can't say which is better, given lighting will trash one skin over the other. I personally stay away from shinny skin since sun lit scenes like a jungle scene will turn the skin into a saran-wrap look, but then when you don't have enough shine you get chalk. like this... 

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So back to translucency with the right setting can be too much and lead to toon settings.    So here is a hint to help for realism,  Use the skins Specular map as the Glossy Layered Weight  map and set the number at around .20-.25  and for the translucency a soft blue for Fern if you haven't already. .40 to .55  .     Good luck.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to PDSmith [2016-08-30 01:45:26 +0000 UTC]

I agree. It's terribly difficult to make colored skin not look like it's playschool plastic. I had the same problem with SSS mats. I think I'm getting there though. It's only a matter of time. :l

PS... I love the 2 Twi'lek cuties btw. Chalk or not.

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AlairaArt [2016-08-29 00:24:15 +0000 UTC]

I definitely prefer the soft skin, but I like this render anyways. Fern is so cute.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to AlairaArt [2016-08-29 20:54:01 +0000 UTC]

LOL! You, and just about everyone else!  Regardless, thanks for your input and the compliment friend!

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elcarlo42 [2016-08-28 23:57:22 +0000 UTC]

Great to see you back to charge, and I prefer the slightly oily skin.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to elcarlo42 [2016-08-29 20:52:40 +0000 UTC]

Cool that is nice to know. Most everyone likes the soft though. I'll still keep working on both though. Thanks for sharing your opinion my friend!

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elcarlo42 In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-29 21:47:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks to you for make this awesome art.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to elcarlo42 [2016-08-30 02:49:43 +0000 UTC]

Sure thing!

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Elf-Lithoniel In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 23:28:52 +0000 UTC]

Yay!!!

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0biwanken0bie In reply to Elf-Lithoniel [2016-08-30 02:16:36 +0000 UTC]

 

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Elf-Lithoniel In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-30 02:24:19 +0000 UTC]

Mwah!!

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0biwanken0bie In reply to Elf-Lithoniel [2016-08-30 03:39:38 +0000 UTC]

He he!

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User1291 In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 22:25:41 +0000 UTC]

Bah, peace. Peace is overrated.
The furious storm of emotions, anger, fear, hatred, love, passion and the swirling chaos when they mix, the erratic thoughts running wild until your being reaches a blissful state of oblivion, ah, THAT's life.
Emotions DO exist and they are SO much more fun than being the emotionless droids the Jedi would turn you into.
That said, she looks so deceivingly innocent, here, I can't help but think she could use a ... proper lesson. A bit of something the Jedi wont teach her.
Let's pick some forbidden fruits.

Anyway, you asked about her skin ...
Funny enough, I think she looks softer here than in the "soft skin version" you linked - although that could be due to the lighting.
Not bad at all, like it. BUT a bit dark, in comparison. I think if you could brighten it up, maybe ...

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0biwanken0bie In reply to User1291 [2016-08-29 20:50:20 +0000 UTC]

Oh she could never do something like that... It just wouldn't be right. She's a good little Jedi girl.

Most everyone likes the softer version (the linked one). I'll still keep working on perfecting these different skin textures though. I sort of like both. I do agree though I like it brighter then What this one is. So we'll see what I come up with next time I fiddle with these. Thanks for your input. It is much appreciated.

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User1291 In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-29 20:55:59 +0000 UTC]

That's what all "good little Jedi girls" say at first, and yet they all end up loving the corruption.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to User1291 [2016-08-31 14:11:52 +0000 UTC]

I don't know... If she does, is she still allowed to call herself a "good little Jedi girl", or does she have to refer to herself as a "naughty little Jedi girl"?

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User1291 In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-31 21:09:43 +0000 UTC]

Well, depending on her ... performance, she just may be allowed to call herself a "VERY, very good little Jedi girl", afterwards.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to User1291 [2016-08-31 21:47:32 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... Okay. She's thinking it over.

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sh8dneji In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 21:57:21 +0000 UTC]

Hmm...perhaps you could have the two versions standing back to back so that we can see the difference. Also in an area with lighting, perhaps a beach scene? At the moment I like the soft skin more but that is more...animated while this one looks more realistic. Hope that helps and keep up the great work. 

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0biwanken0bie In reply to sh8dneji [2016-08-30 02:26:27 +0000 UTC]

Ooo... That might be a little too much work for me right now. Maybe some day though. I have yet to render anything new in Daz yet since I've come back. This is still stuff that I did prior to loosing my sight for those couple of months. I'm kinda nervous to get back into it, if truth be told.  

As far as skin choices, You're on the side with the majority of votes. The soft skin version is beating this one hands down. I'll probably keep working with both of them and see where it leads. Thank you as always though for your helpful input and the compliments. I truly appreciate it.

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sh8dneji In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-30 03:37:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I didn't realized that. Take your time, don't want to try the Eye gods' mercy  

the oil skin could work in dark wet settings while the soft is more all around pleasing, I think that makes sense.

Anyway, I hope miss Fern enjoys those cookies Soren brought her.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to sh8dneji [2016-08-30 04:28:36 +0000 UTC]

Oh she is! She's gobbling up every last crumb and morsel. 
She always gets this wild look in her eyes when she's had too many cookies. 
 

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sh8dneji In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-30 04:35:13 +0000 UTC]

perhaps one day we will get that hidden camera shot of her having cookies.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to sh8dneji [2016-08-31 14:05:38 +0000 UTC]

I would love to do some sort of animated gif like that.

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sh8dneji In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-31 23:13:23 +0000 UTC]

well I hope you get better and keep doing amazing works of art. 

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0biwanken0bie In reply to sh8dneji [2016-09-01 02:57:30 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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FirebirdPhoenix87 In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 21:52:28 +0000 UTC]

D'awww, she's so lovely, wanna hug & kiss her.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to FirebirdPhoenix87 [2016-08-29 20:43:00 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you, I'm flattered!

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FirebirdPhoenix87 In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-29 21:02:34 +0000 UTC]

No prob!

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Becarra In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 21:35:49 +0000 UTC]

Great work as always 0bi. Have you altered Fern's shape a little?

She seems a little thinner and her abs seem to be missing

That said, I do think I am drawn more to the softer version,
she just looks so darned cute there!

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0biwanken0bie In reply to Becarra [2016-08-29 20:42:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! She's always changing shape-wise... I thought you knew that. This shape was from a series of renders where I made her look like a monster high doll, but then put her regular head back on and shortened her arms and legs back down. It was kind of cool, but I never posted them. Maybe I'll show you sometime.

Soft seems to be the way to go I guess. Everyone seems to like that it better then the oily version. Who am I to disagree, lol!

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Becarra In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-30 18:25:44 +0000 UTC]

Hehe oh feel free to disagree! After all, Fern is your muse

We'll love her no matter how she looks!

I'll look forward to when/if that day comes

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0biwanken0bie In reply to Becarra [2016-08-31 14:23:52 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you!

He he... I guess that day wasn't last night. Oops! Maybe tonight.

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Becarra In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-31 14:33:41 +0000 UTC]

Haha

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The-PBG In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 21:29:11 +0000 UTC]

While the oiler form has its own appeal I am more partial to the soft skin version. It has a bolder far more outstanding appeal the model appears more solid and real, while this works more if you are trying , as the lighting makes it feel she and the background are one. While you may prefer it I like the bold, soft skin one better

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0biwanken0bie In reply to The-PBG [2016-08-29 20:37:25 +0000 UTC]

Well you are on the winning side then. Soft seems to be the fave of most everyone. Thanks so much for sharing your opinion. I really appreciate it!

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Yantalis In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 21:23:56 +0000 UTC]

Fern, yis! Still as adorable as ever. :3

I think you're getting better with Iray.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to Yantalis [2016-08-29 20:29:10 +0000 UTC]

  Thank you so much! I appreciate that!

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Yantalis In reply to 0biwanken0bie [2016-08-29 21:35:15 +0000 UTC]

 

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grimmerr In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 20:54:20 +0000 UTC]

I am not at peace for i am full of joyous emotion at your return 😊

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0biwanken0bie In reply to grimmerr [2016-08-29 20:23:54 +0000 UTC]

 Aww... you're so sweet! Thank you!

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FantasyShaper In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 20:38:54 +0000 UTC]

I think for standard, the "soft" is nicer. This does make her look like she's been rubbed down with oil, which, you know, certainly has a time and place.

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0biwanken0bie In reply to FantasyShaper [2016-08-29 20:25:24 +0000 UTC]

I understand completely. I will make note of it for later use.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

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Habo595 In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 20:17:51 +0000 UTC]

Good to see you back in action! Personally I like the soft skin better

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0biwanken0bie In reply to Habo595 [2016-08-29 20:30:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! The soft skin seems to be winning!

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AvdermisPrime In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 19:53:22 +0000 UTC]

For me, this oily skin gives me the impression of tanned skin, somehow. Great job.  

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0biwanken0bie In reply to AvdermisPrime [2016-08-29 20:33:20 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... maybe sort of giving a slight appearance of tanning oil or something perhaps.

Anyway, thanks for the compliment!

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LowBassGuy In reply to ??? [2016-08-28 19:44:26 +0000 UTC]

Good lord those eyes

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