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Description And this is basically why humans keep invading the Herimash lands but never even tried to wage war against the Sa'jiir.

Herimash (cats) and Sa'jiir (lizards) are two of the non-human sentient species in my fantasy setting (Dwarves are the third one), in case you are not familiar with them. I made this mini-comic many months ago, but forgot about it until recently, and then completed it few days ago.  Hope you like it!
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0laffson In reply to ??? [2017-03-01 12:17:47 +0000 UTC]

They sure do!

That almost seems to be quite extreme the other way around!

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DCLeadboot In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-01 14:04:25 +0000 UTC]

Well, humans aren't really trusted by animalkind...

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K4nK4n [2017-03-01 07:33:55 +0000 UTC]

True, so true.

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0laffson In reply to K4nK4n [2017-03-01 12:17:26 +0000 UTC]

Indeed!

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RandomKooldude In reply to ??? [2017-02-28 04:59:38 +0000 UTC]

Bummer. Maybe they can form an alliance?

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0laffson In reply to RandomKooldude [2017-03-01 12:17:21 +0000 UTC]

Unlikely, they both live in scattered tribes, which live in areas quite far apart. It could still happen in some rare cases, though!

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RandomKooldude In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-02 06:53:06 +0000 UTC]

Cool! Glad that could happen then. I guess that couple of them you posted before is also a rarity .

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Eastrider [2017-02-26 23:14:22 +0000 UTC]

Love your setting! Would love to hear more from them.

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0laffson In reply to Eastrider [2017-03-01 12:16:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you a lot! Hopefully I'll manage to expand it in the next months.

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Eastrider In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-02 01:07:28 +0000 UTC]

Read a little further on the character's background from the pic with the caracal and her mother (iirc).

Loving how tightly everything is thought!

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HunterBeingHunted [2017-02-26 21:13:24 +0000 UTC]

Oh no XD poor tiny kitties! XD literally...

Also damn that Sa'Jiir is badass..no wonder they don't wanna fight them.. I mean it'd be almost like fighting dinosaurs O-O' simply terrifying!

I love how you can see a lot of cultural differences in their clothing! I must say I really like the way the Sa'jiir here has dressed  

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0laffson In reply to HunterBeingHunted [2017-03-01 12:15:48 +0000 UTC]

haha indeed, they are so small and weak, poor things!

Indeed, they can grow up to 3 meters tall, so they are VERY dangerous and intimidating! D: It's quite fortunate that they are usually a very peaceful society.

Thank you!

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MangaArtist16 [2017-02-26 19:44:04 +0000 UTC]

Seriously, I admire everything about your art. The anatomy, shading, and coloring are all fantastic!

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0laffson In reply to MangaArtist16 [2017-03-01 12:14:38 +0000 UTC]

Aw, thank you so much!

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MangaArtist16 In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-01 12:23:30 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!
I'm currently working on my anatomy, so people like you inspire me!

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0laffson In reply to MangaArtist16 [2017-03-01 15:57:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm honored that you think that! Thank you!

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MangaArtist16 In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-01 16:36:03 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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onemanarmy300 In reply to ??? [2017-02-25 04:44:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, big guys can be intimidating. Until you shatter one of their knees or worse. (One secret to defeating a bigger opponent is to target the legs) Another way to get the lizards to back off is to be more brutal, viscious, and ruthless than everyone else. For example: sneak into their camp at night and cut most of the lizards' throats, then execute the rest. And don't celebrate or even look happy after the victory. If anything, look even angrier as if killing all those lizards only pissed you off even more.

Sorry if I got dark there.

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0laffson In reply to onemanarmy300 [2017-03-01 12:12:40 +0000 UTC]

haha not sure how well it would work, these creatures are adversary that should not be underestimated! And considering they are VERY prideful I'm not sure they'd be easily intimidated.

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onemanarmy300 In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-01 20:26:44 +0000 UTC]

Until either a bad ass or a maniac runs into them. Or a ruthless warlord.

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Skythe-Soulblade [2017-02-24 19:12:32 +0000 UTC]

yeah no talking to something much bigger and that has more teeth would make me think twice on waging war against. ESPECIALLY if they have their own arms and armor to boot. 

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0laffson In reply to Skythe-Soulblade [2017-03-01 01:48:57 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, they are very dangerous!

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Kthco In reply to Skythe-Soulblade [2017-02-25 00:29:10 +0000 UTC]

Just attack them at night i assume they are cold blooded 

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Skythe-Soulblade In reply to Kthco [2017-02-25 06:11:59 +0000 UTC]

don't know on that one, even then they could use the light of their torches. 

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Kthco In reply to Skythe-Soulblade [2017-02-25 07:08:37 +0000 UTC]

Heat not light.  Even if a torch could warm them then they only have one hand to use. A torch probably couldn't entirely warm them. If they are cold blooded they are disadvantaged at night.  Yes they are huge but that is nothing shock Calvary can't handle.  Reptile dudes are to big to have their own Calvary. The reptiles would be good as infantry during the day.

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Skythe-Soulblade In reply to Kthco [2017-02-25 16:49:18 +0000 UTC]

True, that all remains if they are cold blooded. But we also don't know what other mounts there are aside from horses as well so can't rule out our scaley friends having cavalry. For all we know they have bigger lizards to use or some bugs, idk. 

we can't exactly make our own judgements like we could in another series, since the world building here isn't complete. 

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0laffson In reply to Skythe-Soulblade [2017-03-01 01:56:00 +0000 UTC]

They are indeed cold blooded, even if they live in very warm areas.   And nope, they have no cavalry, even if they can run almost as fast as a horse moving on all fours, even if for a shorter time.

They are mainly diurnal, but considering they live in a desert they also sleep during the hottest hours and they are active during the earliest hours of the night and at dawn. Attacking them at night or at dawn would indeed help a lot since they have less energy to fight, but the problem is they have a way better sight than humans in the dark.
About the cavalry, a surprise attack would cause damage for sure, but these creatures can be up to 3 meters tall, so they could potentially take a charging horse head on too.

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Skythe-Soulblade In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-01 05:20:23 +0000 UTC]

So either way....its gonna be a hard fought battle, and if you get dismounted while on horse you're effectively screwed.

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Kthco In reply to Skythe-Soulblade [2017-02-25 20:38:53 +0000 UTC]

True there is not much info yet about this world.

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Skythe-Soulblade In reply to Kthco [2017-02-25 21:39:14 +0000 UTC]

we shall see

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TimNykyri In reply to ??? [2017-02-24 17:08:39 +0000 UTC]

The great thing about a fabulous idea. Protecting animals if we still can.

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0laffson In reply to TimNykyri [2017-03-01 01:48:39 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree!

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UnoriginalLobster In reply to ??? [2017-02-24 15:20:42 +0000 UTC]

This reminds me of elder scrolls

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0laffson In reply to UnoriginalLobster [2017-03-01 01:48:26 +0000 UTC]

I get that a lot.

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UnoriginalLobster In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-02 19:09:13 +0000 UTC]

I believe it

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Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-02-24 14:18:23 +0000 UTC]

I think the Herimash would still manage to intimidate me.  Cats are a lot faster and more agile, posing a rather severe risk to those that try to engage them.   Their lighter armour (From what I'm seeing here, none) would pose an advantage to their smaller stature and quicker reflexes.  I'd be willing to bet that one of them would be a match for two or three human soldiers.  Logically, it makes sense.

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0laffson In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-03-01 01:47:18 +0000 UTC]

It would depend by the individual fighter, but I believe a well trained human soldier would be able to defeat an Herimash in close combat quite easily. Speed is a very important factor in a fight, but you also have to consider they have a shorter reach, less strength (which means it's hard for them to puncture mail or padded clothing), not to mention the less advanced technology.
Humans' weak points are the neck and joints, but Herimash go around completely naked, so even light blows can cause damage. Their weapons are often made of iron as well, and that doesn't help against steel.

So, overall I'd say it's the other way around Which is why Herimash usually use guerrilla tactics and avoid open field battles, preferring to ambush their enemies and shoot tons of poisoned arrows.

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Kythl-Moonpaw In reply to 0laffson [2017-03-01 15:39:16 +0000 UTC]

Touche.  I still don't think these soldiers are taking the Herimash with the degree of threat that they should be, but I get where you are.  Still, agility should always be prided over strength and endurance.  Which is why I still think Herimash would be tricky foes.

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0laffson In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-03-01 15:56:51 +0000 UTC]

Agreed, they are still adversaries that must not be underestimated!

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Kthco In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-02-25 00:30:47 +0000 UTC]

So what that guy has plate armor.

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Kythl-Moonpaw In reply to Kthco [2017-02-25 03:36:02 +0000 UTC]

And a vulnerable neck.

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Kthco In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-02-25 07:15:26 +0000 UTC]

So the cats have vulnerable everything. Besides a full battle harness protects the neck with a combination of the helm and gorget.  And no getting into the gaps of armor is hard they will not hold still.

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Kythl-Moonpaw In reply to Kthco [2017-02-25 22:06:54 +0000 UTC]

As stated in my first post, Herimash are nimble and quick.  They could manage.  Also, looking back on history, the Celts and the Gauls held great wars against the romans, with the Romans winning only by numbers.  Celts went to war naked and Gauls wore very little.  Armour is not always a saving grace.  Besides, I wasn't speaking for a whole war, merely this little encounter.  Being threatened by two Herimash, who would love to see you dead, is never a laughing matter, no matter their size.  Be afraid.

If it did come to a war, one must remember that the Sa'jiil are huge.  Yes, they're devastating in close quarters.  But they present a huge target at range.  Give me a few Mongol archers and the day is mine.  Herimash would be harder to hit.

Either way, both should be feared.

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Kthco In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-02-26 19:30:55 +0000 UTC]

Romans didn't just win by numbers they where the most sophisticated fighting force of time thats why they had such a large empire. As for the plate armor in the picture it matches very high quality armor from th 15th century which is very light and very strong. I supose someone could take a dirty shot at him in the moment. But once the helm goes on over the helmet there is very little hope of hurting him with a sword period. One would need specalized weapons to hurt him like heavy crossbows or some sort of pick.

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Kythl-Moonpaw In reply to Kthco [2017-03-01 15:44:32 +0000 UTC]

Many weapons could pierce plate armour with a simple stab, which was why mail was designed.  Mail could stop a stab, but was weaker to slashes.  But I concede your point.  The soldiers in this scenario, considering they aren't taking the Herimash as a legitimate threat, would likely die if engaged.  But from an army standpoint, the humans would likely win.

Yes, the Romans were a sophisticated fighting force, but if you look back to the war against the Celts, the only reason the Romans won was by numbers.  The Celts fought with more ferocity and less restriction of armour.  The Roman formations only worked against an enemy that was firing arrows at them or riding horses at them.  Sure, they were effective against troops, but the Celts fought like no army the Romans had faced before.  Either way, the Romans did win, but the Celts put up a fight.  I'd be willing to bet that the Herimash against the humans would likely be similar to Rome against the Celts or Gauls.  Ferocity and agility on one side, training and discipline on the other.

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Kthco In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-03-02 02:01:44 +0000 UTC]

Ok.... you are making a false equivalency between the roman lorica and 15th century plate  there is no way in hell that you can pierce steel plate with a "simple stab" that would take a lance from horseback not a simple stab I know you have seen some stupid vids showing how cool the katana is against costume grade plate armor but in reality real 15th century plate is made from decently thick high carbon steel and is nearly imposible to penetrate with a weaopn that is not espeacaly designed to penetrate armor like a pole hammer. The mobility for 15th century armor is not in question either. www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQ…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO2nM_…

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Kythl-Moonpaw In reply to Kthco [2017-03-02 02:17:44 +0000 UTC]

I'm currently in a history course we're examining this very subject.  I'm not denying that fact and I believe my original words were mis-interpreted.  I was never saying that a "simple" stab could get through.  I was stating that plate is weaker to stabs than slashes and that mail is the opposite.  I concur that in a war the Herimash would lose, should they fight in the open.  Not in doubt.  I'm simply stating that for this encounter, where the men still have open faces/necks and that the hostile Herimash would totally be willing to attack them both, the Herimash would have both the advantage of surprise and the fact that they are at close quarters, thus making the one guard's broadsword useless.

I agree with your statement on plate armour.  Armour is not appreciated enough in most fantasy settings.  So, in this particular argument, I'll yield.  Though, don't take this the wrong way.  I've enjoyed debating with you.  It's rare I find people who match me and call me out on facts, so it's a nice change in pace.  You know your history and facts.

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Kthco In reply to Kythl-Moonpaw [2017-03-03 02:27:27 +0000 UTC]

I don't think that I mis-interpreted you. But these types of debates are always really fun. Its good to not argue politics for once

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Kythl-Moonpaw In reply to Kthco [2017-03-03 04:29:20 +0000 UTC]

I know!    My friends and I get into massive debates on politics.  It was nice discussing something new...er...old, I suppose.  Took a look at your gallery.  Nice stuff.

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Eveeka [2017-02-24 13:03:03 +0000 UTC]

It is so funny! xD

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