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Published: 2019-07-22 20:21:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 10013; Favourites: 321; Downloads: 50
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Part 2 here.As the title says, these are all weapons and tools seen on historical artwork. I have to admit I'm extremely fascinated by unusual types of historical weapons, and medieval European "chopper" swords or cleavers are extremely underrated, with the exception of falchions. Most of these weapons were probably used by peasant militias, farmers and "lowly" infantrymen, and as such they were never preserved nor received any attention.
However, artwork from the time period still depicts many of these weapons and tools, so in some cases we can at least have an idea of how they looked even with scarce (or non-existent) historical finds. This is meant to be a "mini-catalogue" of some interesting weapons I saw on historical paintings or miniatures, and if any of you wants to use them as references for your art or settings you are more than welcome to.
The first part is about the famous and mysterious "falchions" seen in the Morgan's Bible (13th century). There are no historical finds of such weapons, but they appear several times and in several shapes in the miniatures.
Some people speculate these were made up by the artist, but I find that unlikely, and after finding other weird weapons in contemporary and older artwork I'm pretty sure it existed (even though it maybe looked different).
The second part deals with weapons seen in paintings and miniatures representing Saint Peter Martyr. He was supposedly killed with a cleaver or an axe, and as such he's always represented with one of such weapons stuck in his head as part of his iconography.
As you can imagine, such paintings are a true gold mine to find example of these "lowly" weapons and tools, especially if they were made during the Rensaissance and thus showed a high level of detail and accuracy.
The first two weapons on the top were poorly drawn in two 13th century miniatures and as such their accuracy is debatable, but all the others were painted in highly detailed artwork, and as such are most likely very accurate.Β Some of these weapons were as big as a large knife, while others were pretty much oversized cleavers at least as long as an arming sword.
Anyways, hope you find this interesting!
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Aeonofthelight [2019-09-19 22:29:00 +0000 UTC]
Nice, also, some of them would be combat weampons instead of chopper.
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MadNumForce [2019-09-11 14:31:53 +0000 UTC]
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rickardspaghetti [2019-08-09 13:40:01 +0000 UTC]
Man, the bible falchion deserves more love! One of my favourite swords of all time. Beautiful and mean at the same time.
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Ozimankieknees [2019-08-07 04:44:01 +0000 UTC]
Do you know what the semi circular notch at the end of some blades was for? I come from Essex and our county shield has 3 sea hooks on it which have this and I have never been able to find out.
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SkyfireDragon In reply to 0laffson [2019-08-04 17:28:00 +0000 UTC]
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DiardiWolf [2019-07-30 11:06:58 +0000 UTC]
Ooh, I love these! I've always had a weak spot for the less featured historical objects, especially those used by "commoners" which often receive far less attention.
I'm personally always scouring old artworks for depictions of dogs, and this makes me want to go through my reference collection to see if I can't find one of these weapons in the background somewhere given many are depictions of hunting or rural scenes.Β
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0laffson In reply to DiardiWolf [2019-08-03 21:19:20 +0000 UTC]
Same, and these are tragically underrated! Thank you so much!
That would be great! ^^ Let me know if you find something interesting.
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21Mauricio21 [2019-07-26 15:34:34 +0000 UTC]
Wait... These blades with a "hole" near the tip... Can they be the base of Ashbringer?
Yup, that's definitely the base of Ashbringer not very coincidental that the design came from a religious book!
Everyday, something to learn...
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0laffson In reply to 21Mauricio21 [2019-07-28 23:51:19 +0000 UTC]
I never thought of it! XD I'd be surprised if this was the origin haha!
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21Mauricio21 In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 15:44:14 +0000 UTC]
Pretty obvious after having it pointed out this does mean you already know how to draw Ashbringer... Even if you might not want. Just look at the dimensions, they literally copied the holy book version (width and lenght) and rescaled it to be two-handed.
Damn metal paddles.
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TEK427 [2019-07-25 01:30:04 +0000 UTC]
Oooh swords! Glad you had fun with this 0laff. I wouldn't mind seeing more weapon studies. Β
Ouch. Poor Saint Peter Martyr. Taking it right into the head. Β
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0laffson In reply to TEK427 [2019-07-28 23:50:56 +0000 UTC]
Indeed! I love swords!
Yep, it was not a good end for him... but hey, at least he bacame saint just 11 months after his death! XD
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Alandrian [2019-07-23 22:34:15 +0000 UTC]
Wait what? Saint Peter? I thought he was so metal, he could only be killed by an upside-down crucifixion. Or was this his sidekick who was cleaved?
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0laffson In reply to Alandrian [2019-07-24 20:42:34 +0000 UTC]
This is Saint Peter Martyr, a different saint. He was killed in the 13th century and became a saint less than a year after his death. The quickest canonization ever, if I'm not mistaken.
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Chamjari [2019-07-23 18:09:54 +0000 UTC]
I thought scimitars were mostly horse swords. Blades built to be applied at faster than human speed. Are the slots on these meant for sword breaking? What is the basic use of a giant cleaver in battle?
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0laffson In reply to Chamjari [2019-07-28 23:48:57 +0000 UTC]
These are cleavers and falchions, not scimitars Many curved swords were regularly used by infantry. I doubt those slots are for breaking or catching swords, they are too wide. They were probably used either to balance the blade or as a decoration.
And well, they are easy to make and easy to use. Just chop at the enemy, I guess. Many are just re-purposed everyday tools, after all.
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RelativeEquinox In reply to Chamjari [2019-07-23 21:07:50 +0000 UTC]
Well, none of these are scimitars. These are falchions, they predate scimitars iirc and are from a different time period. They're chopping weapons, primarily. Supposedly they're for chopping through padded armor as was more common before plate became the norm.Β
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NeoNimbus526 [2019-07-23 18:03:38 +0000 UTC]
Those are some neat looking swords right there. ;D
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0laffson In reply to NeoNimbus526 [2019-07-28 23:46:41 +0000 UTC]
They sure are! Β Thank you!
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NeoNimbus526 In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 01:39:21 +0000 UTC]
I agree and you're welcome. ^_^
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FoaminianPriestess [2019-07-23 17:14:28 +0000 UTC]
Please make a Part 2! I need more of this in my life!
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0laffson In reply to FoaminianPriestess [2019-07-28 23:46:33 +0000 UTC]
I will! Glad you liked it!
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VictorArminius [2019-07-23 16:41:26 +0000 UTC]
I sometimes despair when I consider the common man's intelligence, then I read the informedΒ commentary on a page like this and my faith in the world is restored.Β Please bother me through the system; I would want to know some of you people.Β Seriously!
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0laffson In reply to VictorArminius [2019-07-28 23:46:10 +0000 UTC]
Haha well, thanks!
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VictorArminius In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 00:41:23 +0000 UTC]
You are a man after my own heart.Β Not only do I fence with foil, epee and saber and practice the Japanese disciplines concerning edged weapons, I collect the historical martial arts manuals such as we've seen printed recently, How to Get the Most from your Broadsword, etc.Β I keep a supply of training swords, from rudii to wasters, and my friends and I like to bash at each other in a most unseemly fashion.Β It's good exercise, and it keepsΒ us off the streets and out of trouble.Β I'm sure you understand!Β If you are the same sort, feel free to drop me a line at this address.Β We may have quite a bit to talk about...
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0laffson In reply to VictorArminius [2019-08-03 21:39:15 +0000 UTC]
That's pretty damn cool! Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience with martial arts. I wish I had time for that.
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VictorArminius In reply to 0laffson [2019-08-09 17:12:00 +0000 UTC]
Mr. Olaffson;
Do you know how you get started in the martial arts?Β All you need is two wooden swords and a willing victim.Β It's a great way to make friends!Β I do hope you can find time for it, someday...
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elzataerinn [2019-07-23 13:14:31 +0000 UTC]
Too bad medieval weaponry is not a subject taught in school.... Them kids would've gone gaga over all these designs
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0laffson In reply to elzataerinn [2019-07-28 23:42:46 +0000 UTC]
Haha agreed! I would have loved it for sure!
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bluewingfairy In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 00:38:54 +0000 UTC]
You're very welcome!β€οΈπ.
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runewuff [2019-07-23 09:32:20 +0000 UTC]
so basically the RL version of LOTR Orc miscellaneous chopping weapons?
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ale-andaro [2019-07-23 08:06:24 +0000 UTC]
"find this interesting"? You kidding me? You have me fascinated.
It's very intriguing to see various kinds of weapons from ages past (in my opinion anyway).
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0laffson In reply to ale-andaro [2019-07-28 23:41:09 +0000 UTC]
Haha thank you so much! Indeed, especially weapons that have no archaeological remains left!
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ale-andaro In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 11:26:50 +0000 UTC]
Weapon smithing, like cooking, requires imagination, a minimum of skill, the right ingredients and a recipe to follow (and this is putting it simply).
It's not hard to imagine that, during those times, various regions and various life styles could produce various types of weapons, depending also on the ones that needed those weapons.
Famous types of weapon were produced and reproduced all over, considering how efficient they proved to be. Leaders needed to have powerful military with quality weapons, so spending time and resources getting known-efficient weapons was a must. However, quality and efficiency is expensive and not everyone can afford them.
What was the solution for this? Make your own. Smiths and crafters that couldn't exactly get their hands on these easily (or didn't want to, depending on the case) simply went for making weapons of their own design, making them this way more accessible to the populace.
Take a map and point a country on it. Regardless of which one you choose, you will find that each had a different set of weapons, both known and unknown.Β
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That's how I see things, anyway. It's quite fascinating to see what recipes some could come up with.
(Pardon me if I talk too much. Just wanted to say this.)
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FangJertic In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 00:40:18 +0000 UTC]
I draw my own sword too lol keep up the good work ^^
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cullyferg2010 [2019-07-23 04:27:25 +0000 UTC]
The one on the very lower right looks like a seax.
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0laffson In reply to cullyferg2010 [2019-07-28 23:39:35 +0000 UTC]
Agreed! Probably had a similar purpose... which means a very big knife.
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cullyferg2010 In reply to 0laffson [2019-07-29 01:13:28 +0000 UTC]
I've seen some anywhere from a belt knife to a practical short sword.
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