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Well the force is clearly with you on this one π
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It will be better with the Stakiller's face.
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Anakin was the worst character in the franchise but Darth Vader was the best.
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Anakin can't be any worse than the whiny Star Wars fanboys that complain about everything after the Original Trilogy. I mean, the backlash on the new films is ridiculous.
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I can't argue there. 
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Yep, indeed. They're at it again. This time it's even more ridiculous considering it's about one of the best Star Wars characters and I frankly don't care if it's a different actor. I haven't seen Solo's movie yet but I'm planning on seeing it in the cinema relatively soon. But I certainly agree that this backlash is nothing short of overzealous and ridiculous. I personally think that Anakin is a representation of how obnoxious and whiny the Star Wars fans can be. I've discussed to another deviant about how badΒ a lot ofΒ Star Wars fanboys can be.
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Believe me, I'm in a Star Wars group on Facebook. They're seriously unbelievable, even going so far to say that if you're a true fan, you'd be boycotting Solo instead of paying money to support it. I bet 99% of them are basically hypocrites as they're going to see the movie anyway.Β
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Yes, I've heard about how infamous that group is. They tried to sabotage the ratings of The Last Jedi, which I thought was overzealous and ridiculous. Now they're doing the same thing with this film as well. I personally don't think that they're true fans. They most probably are hypocrites and they're probably just seeking attention. The Star Wars fans are like this with everything new that comes out. Have you seen the Solo movie yet? If so, then what's your opinion on it?
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I agree. Just a bunch of hypocritical fanatics with nothing better to do with their lives. I bet some are just joining the bandwagon to be a part of the hate group. It's seriously sad. They're basically turning the Star Wars fandom into one of the worst fandoms out there, among the Marvel fandom, Sonic Fandom, Creepypasta Fandom, FNAF and Undertale fandom, Gaming fandom, MLP fandom, etc. It's overzealous and ridiculous! These fandoms ruin something that is supposed to be great!
Some are basically just homophobes or people mostly saying that the new Star Wars films are filled with forced SJW liberal agenda into them. Now freaking out even more all because Lando is now pansexual.Β
No, not yet. However, I am definitely going to go and see it as soon as I can. I mean, a story of how Han and Chewie became best friends sounds like a seriously interesting story! I also hear there is a cameo of a certain badass character. I know who it is but I wouldn't want to spoil it for you unless you really want to know.
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You hit the nail on the head about the SW fanbase being one of the worst.
The Solo film was great, felt like the most OT trilogy movie we've got so far. If that really matters at all to you, but I enjoyed all eras of SW all the same
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And Solo's film was kind of like Disney's 'apology' to all the rabid fanboys who bitched about The Last Jedi. If these fanboy cunts STILL don't like that film...the problem is on THEM, not LucasFilm, Disney or Kathleen Kennedy. It's a decent addition to the franchise. And now, because of the stupid boycott from the butthurt fanboy crowd...this franchise may be run into the ground MUCH worse than the time period during and after the prequels came out...
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I remember the time when the prequels were despised so much. Now when the Disney Star Wars movies came out, they all of the sudden say the prequel trilogy are a masterpiece. What sad people...Β
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Star Wars fanboys will never be fucking happy or decisive... I wonder how such a rich lore of a franchise would have such STUPID fans... I am more a fan of the Sith myself, but...supposedly a series based around the Jedi would have LOTS more level-headed fans who don't react with emotional reactions, but I guess not... And then they have the nerve, nowadays, to call us lovers of the new films 'pandering SJW shills'
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Agreed. In the new films, there are definitely flaws BUT that doesn't mean it is the worst thing ever! Even the original trilogy had flaws! Return of the Jedi is the most flawed movie in the OT. Yet since they grew up with the old movies, they treat it as perfect. They complain that Luke was very whiny in The Last Jedi but he was whiny in the OT! Oh right, because he's Luke Skywalker of the OT so that version of Luke gets a pass. There are also those fanatics who complain that their theories didn't come true and complaining that Rey is not related to Obi-Wan or Snoke not being Darth Plagueis. They even want the new movies to be an adaption of the Expanded Universe stories. I said the same thing about The Walking Dead, it's a good thing that the movies and the books are completely different so we have different things to look forward to rather than just focusing on one thing. Back to those haters being the ones who grew up with the OT, I bet 40% of them weren't even born yet when the OT was out but they are like sheep, they follow whoever the host is. If there's a hate bandwagon, they'll climb on board to get attention since they have nothing else better to do with their lives.Β
BTW, I also prefer the Sith more. 
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LOL male Skywalkers usually ARE whiny, that's their default trait XD Ben Solo included, despite his last name he IS one. And tell me about it when it comes to all the stupid theories that were COMPLETELY overblown before TLJ came out... Fans get SO attached to them that, when the movie came and gone and their theories DIDN'T happen, they literally uproared about it manbaby style when they didn't get what they wanted. How pathetically entitled, they are. Also, if they wanted LEGENDS, THEY STILL HAVE THEM. But a LOT of the Legends stories sucked, they were not flawless stories either (and neither were they mostly written by George Lucas himself). I especially hated the Vong because they felt like something more out of fucking Star TREK and not Star WARS...plus, those ugly fuckers are TOO OP if they can manage to even outdo force users. And isn't the Force supposed to be the ULTIMATE Power (aka 'God') in the SW universe?! I don't care what stupid circles around logic Legends writers created to explain away the Vong's ability to overpower force users, it was always STUPID (at least to ME it was). So yes, I TOO am GLAD that we now have at least TWO separate 'universes' of Star Wars we can refer to. I'm USED to he whole 'multiverse' concept in famous fictional series, thanks to DC and Transformers, so I'm completely fine with SW now having two different 'universes'. And also...of COURSE most of these SW rabid fanboys are bandwagoning SHEEP. That's pretty damn obvious now, with what's going on with poor Solo's box office total suffering because the manbabies didn't get what they want from TLJ and feel spiteful enough to get Solo to suffer due to their wishes not being fulfilled. So it's as I said before...instead of these hypocrites acting like JEDI as many CLAIM they are at 'heart', they act like the very thing they are accusing Disney and Kennedy and Johnson and whoever else is involved in Star Wars movies nowadays: SITH.
Oh goooood, let the dark side flow through you too then >:] But not the way these manbabies do it, that way of doing it is LAME.
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I've never even heard of the Vong but yeah, the Force is the only ultimate power in Star Wars that should exist.Β
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Sorry for the late reply, I've been pretty busy. These so called "fans" are a bunch of sheep, frankly. I've heard about how infamously bad the Sonic and MLP fandoms are, but I didn't know that Marvel was also a bad fandom. I've never really liked FNAF at all and I haven't really heard of the other three. Indeed they do ruin it! They're trying to spoil the new films for everybody by forcing their outrageous views on people. There are a lot of fans who only like the OT and outright hate everything else! I'm not saying that they should like every single Star Wars movie, but this is ridiculous! And I thought that the Transformers fandom was bad. They make the Transformers fans look a whole lot better!
What are SJWs, exactly? I've never quite understood the concept? But I've heard that they're a bad group of people that everybody hate and they have something to do with racial/political views. Could you please explain it to me? Btw, I didn't know that Lando was pansexual in this new film. Err, okay?
I know that I've probably already mentioned this, but I'm planning on watching the film sometime relatively soon. I've no idea who specifically cameos in Solo's new movie,Β but I've heard that there's an article about it. But I will make sure that I won't find out any spoils before I watch the film.
IΒ know a fellow deviant of mine who saw the film recently and wrote a journal entry on it.
Han SoloHis movie was AWESOME. If anyone's thinking twice about watching this...don't. And don't let haters on youtube or anywhere else online convince you it is a 'shit film', most of them are rabid Star Wars fans that are pissed about 'Disney Star Wars' and believe there's a political agenda behind EVERYTHING Disney is doing to the franchise.Β
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Thanks for mentioning my journal. I will finally add my input into this conversation now, because I've had it held back for such a long while...
Marvel's fanbase is mostly obnoxious toward's DC's fanbase. Mostly due to the fact that Marvel movies are executed WAY better than DC films these days...which is a shame (DC is better, in my opinion, because the characters are way more relatable and NOT over the top obnoxious a lot of times). Infinity War was fucking AWESOME, though, I will admit lol.
I don't like weird series crap like FnaF either. Though I also don't like too PINK series like MLP either.
Fuck the fanboys and their SPITE of trying to PUNISH Solo's film just because TLJ didn't turn out to be exactly what they wanted!!! Ungrateful, rabid manbabies, is what they really are!
The Transformers fans and fanbase really have got nothing on the bitching negativity the Star Wars manbabies can produce...
SJWs are...usually butthurt annoying leftist types that get offended over anything having to do with race, sex (I use THIS term instead of gender, just letting you know), and sexuality. But honestly...most of the people bitching about the SW newer films are actually ANTI SJW. Honestly...both groups sound VERY similar, in terms of sounded like entitled whiny children, but they are on OPPOSITE end of the political spectrum. And quite frankly...I hate BOTH of them.
You told me you enjoyed the film, right?
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I've never seen Transformers so I don't know how bad their fandom could be. The marvel fandom is ridiculous. They try their best to hate on DC and will never give DC a break. Once an MCU movie is released, they instantly praise it when in most cases, it's just mediocre. For example, Thor: Ragnorok was freaking awful! Way too much forced humor! Yet the MCU fanboys say that since it's the critics giving it a good score, it makes it one of the best Marvel movies ever. And my god... the Robert Downey Junior fanboys! They are the reason I hate Iron Man so much. So maybe I phrased it wrong. Marvel fans are sometimes chilled. It's the MCU fanboys who are a terrible fanbase. Just the MCU.Β
SJW stands for Social Justice Warrior and you're right about racial/political views. They try their best to force their rights down your throats and are basically hypocrites. The black SJWs are black separatists, saying how white people are all racist and black people can't be racist. Same goes for the LGBT folks and feminists within the SJW. The feminists of the SJW hate men and claim they're fighting for gender equality but in reality, are just creating reasons to hate men. Basically they're misandrists but use the title as feminist to make them feel more justified in hating men. So the fanboys of Star Wars complain of how it's only been women who have been powerful in the new films, and having stereotypes.Β
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I'mΒ very sorry for the late reply. To be honest Transformers fandom isn't great, either. But it's better than the Star Wars or the MCU fanbase to say the least. The main problem with the Transformers fandom is all the garbage slash fanart/fanfics. I didn't know that they hated DC, now that's a surprise! I thought that they would at least respect DC, as it is pretty equal to Marvel. The Robert Downey sound a bunch that I will steer clear of. I've only watched the first Iron Man film and the first Avengers film, by the way.
SJWs are a bunch of hypocrites who like to cause trouble with racial/political views and ruin everything.Β Am I right? If I'm wrong, you can explain it to me more fully. Yes, I heard all about the racial prejudice Finn and Rosie have got and all the sexism just because the idea of the straight white male has threatened in these new films and women are actually getting some more screen time for once! Not to mention the fact that Rey has been accused of being a "Mary Sue." I can actually think of a worse example of a Mary Sue in the Star Wars franchise, which are the Yhuuzan Vong from the Expanded Universe. You may or may not have heard them. They are a race of overpowered, Mary Sue trekkie aliens with organic technology who invade the Star Wars universe and Jedi can do absolutely nothing to stop them. They block lightsaber attacks and cannot bed force choked, so they are practically invincible. They even kill Chewbacca and Mara Jade! I don't know much about these guys but they are the most ridiculous thing in the Star Wars franchise and completely unStar Wars-esque material. So people should just be grateful that Disney has axed the Yhuuzan Vonga and hasn't reintroduced them into the new Star Wars movies. The First Order was certainly a much better idea than them.
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Sorry for the late reply. Yeah, most fandoms can have those types of people who do extremely cringey fanart and fanfics. While with fanart I can understand because it's a good thing that people are practicing how to draw to become better artists but when they don't put any effort into them, as well as disrespecting the source material, it becomes a serious problem. I've seen some horrid things here on DeviantArt.... *shudders*
That is pretty much what SJWs are. People who also feel victimized when they victimize others. There's even a YouTube channel and website dedicated to people who say they're not SJW yet they act like them. They once made a very disgusting video called 36 Questions Women Have for Men and something numbers Black People Have for White People. They also love forcing their sexuality down people's throat so anyone straight is basically cringey to them. So in their case, if you're a straight white male, you shouldn't exist. The channel is Buzzfeed Yellow by the way. I think they changed the name. I'd even admit to being curious to know your thoughts on the video, just to give you an idea on what the SJW could be like. Though, another YouTuber called Dr Shayme is basically a god among men as he calls out the SJW and his videos are primarily him just responding to these SJW attacks, with him answering the questions in the most savage way possible towards the Buzzfeed videos.
About Mary Sue, I actually explained this to people in the Star Wars group. This is STAR WARS! A MOVIE IN SPACE! We got spaceships that travel at freaking lightspeed, having nearly every planet being inhabitable, warriors who have laser swords with the ability to use telepathy and telekinesis! Nothing matters if a certain character is overpowered because Star Wars is a fantasy and yet they got the nerve to complain that Rey is overpowered?! I only complain that we have no real backstory on her on why she knows how to use the Force and if her parents could actually be powerful Jedi Knights who died heroes. Not everyone has to be related. This isn't Once Upon a Time. The only reason Luke being related to Vader is such a major shocker is because Vader is an evil Sith Lord and Luke is the hero so with Luke being Vader's son, it changes your view on Vader completely! If the formula is repeated, it just isn't interesting anymore.Β
One thing I love about the new Star Wars is that the First Order feels like a well-trained military again like the clones. Don't get me wrong, the original Stormtroopers will always be favourites but seeing them actually able to hit something is impressive to see.Β
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I'm very sorry for the late reply. DA is full of all sorts of disturbing fetish garbage. I personally think that the deviants who waste their artistic talent on all this cringeworthy fetish BS are not right in the head, somehow. I can't believe that they even do weird fetish art of Celebs as well. There's just no limit with these people. To be very much honest, the only reason why I go on here is for the quality fanart.
Dr. Shayme is certainly very brave calling out those SJW hypocrites, then. I'd better make sure to stay away from them. I've had my own battles with trolls in the past.
I honestly don't care if Rey is overpowered, personally as it never really bothered. The fandom are way too hard on her and she clearly doesn't deserve all the hate that she gets. At least being overpowered is better than being completely incompetent or useless. Which is all I can say for Optimal Optimus from Beast Wars. And if Rey does turn about to be related to be Luke, that will be a bit of a cliche and that Reylo pairing will turn out to be incest. I've heard that Kyle Katarn from the EU/Legends is also considered a Mary Sue. Btw, what is your opinion on the Yhuuzan Vong? I personally think that they are the most bizarre and ridiculous thing to come out of the EU. Thank God Disney axed them.
I agree that the original Stormtroopers will always be the best, but the First Order Stormtroopers are much better at aiming. I remember when they wiped out all villagers a the beginning of TFA. I'm going to see Han Solo's movie on Friday. Wish me luck. I'll tell you more about it after I've seen it , but I'll try not to give away any spoilers.
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Do you remember Galen Marek aka Starkiller? Many people are forgetting how overpowered HE was yet I bet the main reason people are complaining is because Rey is a woman and in the nerds' eyes, women shouldn't be more powerful that men. Such insecure fanatics.
To be honest, I've never read much into the EU. I know a little about the original Kylo Ren such as Darth Cadius, who in my opinion, is a much better written son than Kylo.Β
Good luck! I'd like to hear your thoughts!
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Yes, I definitely know who Galen Marek/Starkiller is. He was Darth Vader's former apprentice in The Force Unleashed and Darth Vader had a clone of him in the sequel. He was definitely very overpowered. I saw both games in a Games store the other day. Indeed they are, the amount of sexism in the Star Wars fandom towards characters like Rey is overzealous and ridiculous. It's about women got more attention in the Star Wars franchise. These so called "fans" clearly have nothing better to do with their lives. I'm sick of them complaining about everything all the time, it's so overkill. No wonder I prefer the Transformers fandom.
I haven't read much of the EU, either. All is know is what I've read in books and on the internet. But I do agree Darth Caedus does sound a whole lot better than Kylo Ren. (who is an okay character in my opinion)
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Yeah, such overzealous, sexist and ridiculous insecure fanboys who can't handle a woman being powerful. I don't know if you've heard of the story about Kelly Marie Tran, the actress who played Rose in The Last Jedi, but the fanbase has gone too far. They've harassed her so much to the point of her deleting her instagram account. I won't lie and admit that Rose wasn't the best character but that's just my opinion. However, I don't hate the character so much that I would have to attack the actress just because she got in the way of the Finn x Poe or the Finn x Rey pairing. It's one thing to dislike a character but it's a complete other thing to go out of your way to attack the actress who was given the script. This fandom is really starting to become one of the worst fandoms ever, maybe even hitting the Top 5s.Β
I will give Kylo some credit. It's interesting to see a character struggling not to become good rather than the other way around. Where in the prequels, we saw Anakin trying not to become a Sith, but here, it's Kylo struggling not to become a Jedi. However, it doesn't change the fact that I still see Kylo as an angsty, emo and edgy teen who only wants to join the Dark Side because it sounds cool. Then again... who wouldn't want to join the Dark Side because it sounds cool?
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Sorry for not replying again. I have been very busy. I have heard that people didn't like Rosie, but I didn't know that the hate on her was really that bad. It is disturbing how overzealous these Star Wars fans are. I know that you obviously hate Jar Jar Binks, but his poor actor, Ahmed Best didn't deserve death threats and the overzealous bad treatment from the fans. We can both agree that is another example of the hate going too far.
The Star Wars fandom is without a doubt one of the worst fandoms out there. I did come across an article about Star Wars fans have turned to the dark side about a month ago. This is why I prefer the Transformers fandom. The Transformers fandom has it's own problems with whiny nostalgia-filled fans, but not nearly to the extent of the Star Wars fandom. The Transformers does have it's own equivalent to the Original Trilogy elitists called Geewhiners, but they're not as bad.
I saw Han Solo's movie Friday last week and I enjoyed it very much. There is a cameo at the end from one of the absolute best characters from the prequels. I won't spoil it for you, but I'm sure that you will enjoy it and appreciate the cameo. That is, if haven't seen it already......
I'm sure what emo means but I can see that you obviously that you think more of him than Anakin, then. Kylo Ren is quite an interesting character and it is intriguing to see if he will turn good. I wanted to write my own episode IX fanfic where Kylo Ren matures into a true Sith Lord and establishes a new Sith Order. He's not the best/most intimidating villain and certainly not better than Vader. It's just an idea, but I doubt that Disney/Lucasfilm will go down that route. I'm personally looking forward to episode IX no matter who it turns out.
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To be honest, don't I hate Jar Jar. Sure, he could get annoying at times but I thought he was tolerable enough. Trust me, I've seen even more annoying characters than Jar Jar.Β
Trust me, I already know who it is. It's Darth Maul. I am guessing you may be questioning how he could've survived but I'm sure a fan like yourself has been watching Rebels and The Clone Wars so you would understand how Maul survived. Unfortunately, FB spoiled the post-credit scene for me.Β
Honestly, I will say that it is definitely an interesting turn here. You see, when it comes to Sith Lords, there's the Master and there's the Apprentice. There can only be two. Of course, among Sith Lords, there's always that bitter hatred the Apprentice has and since they desire power, they always plan on overthrowing their master so THEY can become the master. With Vader, he knows Sidious is more powerful than he is but doesn't bother to challenge him because he knows it would be suicide. However, what if Vader DID beat Sidious? How would he lead the Empire? Sidious is charismatic and talented when it comes to politics. To be honest, Vader isn't. So to see Kylo-Ren in that situation where he is now in full control of the First Order, as well as being a master in search of an apprentice, that is definitely a score there.
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Good, I'm glad to see that you don't hate Jar Jar, then. From one of your other discussions, I was under the wrong impression that you did. I personally think that he's okay, he can get a bit irritating at times.Β
So you already know, okay. I'm glad that I haven't spoiled anything for you, then. I already knew that Darth Maul was alive way before I watched the film. That being said, I've only watched the first there Seasons of Clone Wars and haven't anything of Rebels. On that note, have you seen Solo's movie yet? It's obviously been a week after I last replied to you.Β
Kylo Ren is definitely more charismatic than Vader, which isn't saying very much. So hopefully he'll shape up to be pretty good leader for The First Order. If he does get an apprentice, I wonder who it will be?Β Β
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