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Published: 2012-09-11 21:13:03 +0000 UTC; Views: 1981; Favourites: 53; Downloads: 5
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The rest of my family is Catholic and they all support it too. Besides, just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I have to shut out new and beneficial ideas and opinions and that I can't learn from life experience.Related content
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For always. I LOVE this stamp!!
(Proud yaoi Fangirl over here!! >.<)
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YEAH and any idiot says you can't be catholic and support the LGTB community can stuff it!
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"anyone who doesn't show love towards gay and lesbian people is insulting God. they are not just homophobic if they do that, they are Godophobic because God loves everyone of those people.
-Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin
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Do you think God just suddenly changed his mind about morality? Because it's always been the same to Him: acting upon same sex attraction sinful. It's hard to claim adherence to Catholicism at the same time as saying you're open to new ideas. 
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Excuse me?
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I don't need to ask for your permission, bub. I've been hearing that my whole life. Stopped caring. If God sees that as a good enough reason to send me to hell, well then he's a pretty shitty god.
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Catholic =/= homophobia
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Like i didn't examine my beliefs at all before deciding this. That would be silly.
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I'm trying to understand your point of view, not attack your person. If you don't want to explain that to me, that's fine. It's just seems like an atheist saying that he believes religion is the source of all goodness in the world; it seems very contradictory to one of the core aspects of atheism (or at least one that 99.9% of atheists take in one degree or another).Β
Remember, I don't want to make you angry. I'm just trying to understand what you believe. Forgive me if I came off as rude.Β
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There's more to Christianity than hating gays. It seems insignificant to me. If God doesn't like it, I'll let him judge.
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Nothing about true Christianity advocates hating anyone. In fact, the whole point of Christianity is LOVING everyone. And you assume that just because one votes against same sex marriage, they hate gays. That's a stretch. There ARE people who do that, but not all of them. Most of them because they feel marriage is between a man and a woman.Β
Regardless, my point is that Catholicism states that God has declared marriage to be between a man and a woman. You claim to be Catholic. Do you just pick and choose what tenets of Catholicism you adhere to? I'm just confused.Β
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No, but i don't see why it can't be legal. It won't affect you.
I follow it for the most part. I'm not gay. It won't affect me.
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Well, that is certainly up for debate. But it's a debate I'm not sure I want to have. XD
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Thats great! Im ace but im apporoving gay rights too. Seriously not everybody wants children!
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Looks like ~LordElthibar can't handle the idea of other people thinking differently.
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Not mention to his anti-wicca art because of me... Look at my profile. =/
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Speak of the devil, and he shall appear.
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Well, I recall that you basically mocked anybody who disagrees with you.Β You also did call Zhane a pope because he's Catholic.....Β Not mention to how you picked on me for my pagan belief, which was nothing to do with the comments at the group. Not even your Christian belief.Β I think it's really low to make an anti-something art like that...
Well, yes, I do feel disappointment in you for kept picking on her here... for she support gay people.Β But, do you realize the group has some non-Christians, don't you? And a couple of GLBT members? That's why it's important is respect other people who don't always share the same beliefs and thoughts...Β
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A true Christian would not support anything that goes defiles something of their Lord's sacred word. By the way, I didn't call Zhane the pope. For the record, I have decided to stop mocking the Catholics at the request of a friend of my family, Chaplain Buechuam. I was merely attacking one for claiming they were a Christian and supporting gays. Were that person a non-Christian it would be another story, since they don't live by the Scriptures. By the way, I know what you Pagans did to my Christians in Rome.
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He's angry about something Pagans did to Christians in Ancient Rome? Β Oh for Pete's sake.
Yeah, he blocked me. Β Such a wonderful example of a Christian, isn't he?
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I just hope he will realize kids will be all right in GLBT families one day...
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What do you have against Christians trying to help each other walk in the straight path of their own faith?
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Nothing.
My point is that my issue is you who pick on AClockworkKitten as Christian because you don't agree with her pro-gay view. What if you meet a Christian who happens to have two gay parents? Whether his or her parents are Christians or not.Β
If you believe every child must have two mom and dad for being a good Christian, then what about a child who raised with aunt, uncle, grandparent, single parent, or even sibling? Are they terrible parents/persons for being not good Christian enough?Β
I happened to be child of single mom. Even I got nasty comments from Christians for my mom being not good Christian... That's something I never understand.
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I'm not saying that they are a poor Christian. If one is raised by gay parents, I would not place upon that Christian kid the sins of their fathers or mothers.
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I see. Okay then.
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Say, how did you know about the...?
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You really need to look up for statistic datas on gay families who lost their children. Taking their kids is done by heavy damage. They may be scarred for life.
Some children do not want to sleep on their beds alone because they are so afraid of losing their beloved parents. They'll sleep on floor or on some sofa in their parents' bedroom. It do happen. It's no different from some workers take disabled people's kids away because of their disability. They are SCARRED for short term, or even, for life. I feel under impressive that you're okay with damaging gay families. That's plainly so wrong on many levels...
Well, I realize you don't see that way. So, we will just agree to disagree on that gay families, by then...
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It burdens me to say that but it is the consequences of their actions.
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It doesn't have to be this way. Β You'd seriously ruin families and scar kids for life just for the sake of a few lines in the bible?
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You choose now of all times to reply to something that I don't even want to continue conversation on? I'm done trying to reason with you.
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I stumbled upon it, I'm not going to let you get away with it.
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Fine then, communications will only be once again terminated. Here I thought that we could just for once get along despite our differences.
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Yes, you did...
Look pal, I'm Protestant. I don't take orders from the pope. If I were a non-Christian I would see a bad example thinking that Christians ignore their principle of mercy.:Β comments.deviantart.com/4/1274β¦
Clearly, you sneakily insulted at him without saying his name.
I was merely attacking one for claiming they were a Christian and supporting gays.
If you decide to make fun of at Catholic people, then why you attacked AclockworkKitten? That doesn't sound like you "attack her pro-gay view", but to insult her. That's the reason of why I step in to defend my friend. I follow some of your current comments on anotherΒ deviationsΒ and stamps, I see nothing but immature and rude comments you wrote...
By the way, I know what you Pagans did to my Christians in Rome.
So Christians did burnt 'witches' in Dark Age. Your point is...? I can't believe that you accused me for those such aged news.Β
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I myself have been accused of such aged news by others for being a Christian. By the way, I did not insult him there but I was trying to say that I did not see that he had any Christian mercy in him.
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I myself have been accused of such aged news by others for being a Christian.
Ah, I can see that. Yes, it's really annoying when people brought old news. They really should realize that society had changed over time.
By the way, I did not insult him there but I was trying to say that I did not see that he had any Christian mercy in him.
I see. Okay then.
I just wonder. Have you heard of gay families lost their children to foster or CPS, simply because of a lack of equal rights? Just ask, that's all.
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Did he just call me a boy?
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Oh! 
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They have equal rights. They would be granted the benefits if they were married to the another of another gender. I would thus lose the rights of adoption if I had married a man. Don't you see that? That is equality.
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Not really. In some states, they do lost their children to CPS or foster...
You should look in my friend's story for similar situation, through she's not gay.Β darkcougar55s.deviantart.com/jβ¦
Both gay and disabled people could lost their kids, whether they're related or not. It do happen, tho.
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I am against the disabled losing their kids however.
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But you're okay with gay parents losing their kids, then?
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Yes, I'm not for gay parenting. Children should have both a mother and a father or one or the other.
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It pisses me off when some Christians says they're full of equality, but yet they are against gay marriage.Β
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They only support blacks, the poor, women who doesn't fit their own stereotype because back then they had right. It's like back then, Whites are only equality for women but they still hate on black people.Β Β
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That's something I don't get. Every child should have a loving home. Good news, gay marriage and GLBT community are more acceptable in neat future. About 10 to 20 years from now. 
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Yeah. I will thank to them. Gays adopting isnt gonna hurt kids! It makes me wanna explain why it effects the kids. Straight parents are no better. I heard some kids abused by their "straight" parents.Β
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Wow. Β Holy crap. Β Yeah.
He just said that.
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Oh yeesh. . . I'm sorry about that. I'm pro-choice but I still think he was being a big baby about it.
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You are a one going against Scriptures and a traitor! Take her away!
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