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That pretty much sums up my attitude to Equestria Girls.- [link]
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Best to wait and see. Nevertheless, your enthusiasm makes for fine vectors.
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I'm OK with it too. It all has to do with the execution of it. I mean seriously guys we should already know this. I mean we watch a show about pastel colored ponies. So I'm going to wait and see how it goes. And if it is as bad as many people say it will be, it still gives us fans a lot to work with in the way of fan work.
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I'm sceptical about that. But I hope they can exceed my expectations
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Mine too, I don't see what the big deal is.
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I am also surprisingly okay with it, IF it's done right. I'm waiting to see it first before I make any judgments about it, as I do with anything. Which is what I should've done with MLP in the first place, because I really didn't think I'd love it so much.
How far I've fallen into that pit. lol
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I don't hate it but I'm not saying that I like it. first see then judge
But admit it, Twilight looks cute
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Image search "anime cockroach". 'Cute' is easy.
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Please don't feed the troll
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It's not trolling if it's true. Who from the original demographic (3-6Yo Females) would find the idea of species swapping attractive? None? Right. Would bronies? Yes, they went ballistic. Now, which is more profitable: 0.1c adds on youtube videos (With merchandise), Or $20 movie tickets, a Blu-ray release, a "Collectors edition" Blu-ray release, Plus all the same merchandise but made differently, not to mention movie posters and all that shit.
And before you're be all "You's be trolling" I don't scan through this website attacking bronies, no. I saw this on the front bloody page, clicked it, and posted my opinion. If I can't say that and hope for a rational conversation then what the bloody hell can I do whilst waiting for software to compile?
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Actually, a lot of us do not like the Equestria Girls idea at all. Yes, there are some pervs out there, but many of us bronies and pegasisters really do the love the show in it's pure form. It's funny, colorful, and innocent, and sends lovely messages about love and tolerance that you don't often see in the adult world. I can't speak for everyone, but that is why I, personally, enjoy MLP. I also have discovered that I have a talent for sewing, and met a lot of very nice people through the fandom. It's a very positive thing. So yes, we have a few bad apples, like any other group. But don't judge us all by a few people.
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I think we can both agree "A few people" is a gross understatement.
Searching "MLP" on bing images gets you 72,000 hits. 'MLP Rule 34" gets 78,000.
As for you objecting to this: Some will watch it, they will say it's great, then you will watch it. This isn't like the first few generations, you can't push it under a rug.
As for "messages about love and tolerance that you don't often see in the adult world" this show isn't special. It's E/I. Most E/I shows teach tolerance and resolution, just watch anything. Yet fans still act like it's LSD.
The idea that so many people only considered doing things because they saw it on tv is shocking, Think if people only considered doing things this show actively promotes.
I've been to conventions, I've seen the audience, and we should be afraid.
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When I stated that you didn't give the whole information, that was all it meant. I corected my self afterwords. If you wish to go off topic Ok, I was lossing my pacience. My one and single point I wanted give, was that when you look for something, and only for that one thing. That is all you will find. MLP porn might be rampent, but it's not as rampent as "innocent" works.
I do know what autism is, most of my family works in special ed. My signature might need some background information. It's from the song Forever by HURT [link] . It's not my favorite song from, but might be my favorite quote from him. The song itself is about having to hurt someone you love. The line however, means that I will understand things that others wouldn't even comprehend. Your comment is a testiment to that fact.
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I was NOT specifically looking for ANY less then pure results, I JUST DISABLED THE FILTERS THAT WOULD REMOVE THE INDECENTE RESULTS.
I was NOT LOOKING FOR PORN, I WAS LOOKING FOR A FAIR, UNBIASED SUMMARY OF WHAT THE MLP FANDOM CONSISTS OF, AND I FOUND IT. PORN. LOTS OF PORN.
As for your signature you still have 191 characters spare, why not clarify?
'"for everything I understand one thousand more won't comprehend"
dats from a song I dnt rely like, bt its ma favourite quote lk evr!!!!!!11!!!
(its about some stupid emo shit)'
And you still have 80 characters left, you could probably even fix the grammar
And wether autism contributed to it or not that statement denotes vast arrogance.
NO I'M NOT GONNA UNDERSTAND SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN TRY TO FUCKING EXPLAIN IT!
And saying that you understand something that 1000 would not in the context of a relationship is even more arrogant.
"OH I UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER THEN ANYONE ELSE WHY DONT YOU LOVE ME? WAAAA" That screams unrequited crush more than anything; Seriously, are you 14?
And my comment is a testament to the fact that I DID understand it, I understand that you think you have a clearer and more open mind then others. Here's a few quotes for you that would be better to live by:
"For everything I know I know only that I don't"
"Education is the progressive realization of our ignorance"
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You were biased, no matter how hard we try we will always be bias. But I digress. As I stated before, I corrected myself in removing all filters. And what I got? well and underwhelming amount of results at all. I even actively searched MLP porn and such. And on a unrelated not searching MLP rule 34 does not give you that much rule 34 search (at least not what I expected) engines are not accurate in the slightest. and we've only been searching for illustrations and literature. What about videos, games, and music? Those are big parts in the fandom too!
Why didn't I clarify? It's because I've been tought that we should not be guided by the nose all the time. This goes double when it comes to the meanings of lyrics and poetry. Although I should have given credit, but there is a device that as been used over and over in this conversation called a search engine (I'll add the proper credits later). I've never said that the quote meant that I was better because I "know" more. Only that there are things in this world that some will understand while others will not. My truths are not your truths. It is not emo (Man I hate that term). To be emo it needs to be emotional, although the majority of the song is quite "emo" that line is not.
Yes those quotes are good. Try these, they might be intresting to you.
"The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool" Shakespeare.
"I hear what you say, I've seen my mistakes, And I know i'm okay, Cause you're driving me crazy" taproot
"Feel, damn you, feel like you're alive again
I needed to know, I'm needing a show of hands for it
We couldn't be sure 'cause we see a lot of them
But i traded it all did i make a difference et al?" J. Loren Wince
βAwareness is the enemy of sanity, for once you hear the screaming, it never stops.β Emilie Autumn
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Of those quotes I am greeted to one you listed every morning, and have been for the last few hundred or so days.
Anyways, your disregard for my evidence is no longer amusing, so I'm gonna Godwin this bitch and say that Lauren Faust is Hitler.
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I have not disregard anything, I do agree that MLP has a wide variety of perversity in its fan base. It is you who has diverged from the topic by bring up my quote. As the conversation wasnt going anywhere at that point. I jumped at the opportunity to maybe share, and get away from the venomous from before. But at last it is not the case.
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For god sake, I mentioned the Third Reich, I Godwin's law'd this bitch, I lose the argument, what more do you want?
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I only have one last thing to say. Forgive and forget, but never regret. I'm sorry I irritated you so much, this sad excuse of a conversation has left a bad taste in my mouth. It was never my intent to have this become a toxic mess of wasted time, but maybe we both can learn something from this. If so it would most likely not be what we had in mind. Have a good day sir
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Heh, now that I've seen the film I must say, It wasn't as bad as I expected, but I was pretty accurate in my predictions.
Who would have thought?
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Although I appreciate that you would give the movie a try. I do not wish to rekindle this argument.
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Try to pay more attention to the public at large (or other groups) if you think the MLP group is scary.
I agree with Raven Lady. The perverted group of Bronies is a minority. If you look at other medias it's always the most annoying/disgusting groups that seem to be the most prevalent in a given group. Although you are correct in that many shows have a running theme of love and tolerance, and that it's just one of many E/I shows. The point I think Raven Lady was trying to say, was that not many E/I shows are able to grab the attention of the older demographic in such a large scale such as MLP.
And do you really think any number has worth. there's are so many more variables involved in determining a group. For example, just how a search engines works? It looks for "relevant" pages based on key words you used. It's not perfect, you will find thousands of results that seem to have nothing to do with what you just searched for, and millions more that you would think should have come up.
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As I said in other comments "When you can't search for something intended to be innocent and teach kindness without getting a tsunami of porn you have a problem.
Wait no, you don't. When a fandom becomes corrupt you can chose to leave.
When you cant search ANYTHING without seeing said pony franchise sexualised you have a problem.
Seriously, Bing image an videogame. You will see the characters drawn as ponies.
And then the characters drawn as ponies getting fucked.
BIG. FUCKING. PROBLEM."
Search engines work by scanning hyperlinks in indexed sites and indexing the found pages.
Then when more people click on links those results are prioritised.
It also compiles what people search for, and suggests the most popular searches that coincide with your search term, so the term "MLP Rule 34" is promoted, and I can know that people want horse porn more than "Mlp Comics", "Mlp Rainbow Dash", or "Mlp Wallpaper".
That is how search engines work.
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I strongly disagree with your point. I can search for many things MLP related or not, and not have to deal with pornography. further more Searching MLP on Google, Bing, Ask, and Yahoo gives me no results on any rule 34 products. you might be "suffering" with a visual form of Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon.
has it ever occurred to you that rule 34 might fascinate many people. we all have our dirty sides. Is that wrong? no, it's called taboo. I guarantee you, that you have perverted thoughts running through your head, as do I.
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First, here's what bing has to say about mlp: [link]
So we know that.
As for ponies being absolutely fucking everywhere I searched "portal" on this humble site and of from the first 72 results 1 in ~5 where ponies.
Has it occurred to me that people watch porn? *GASP* WHAT? I NEVER KNEW THAT!
As you said, it isn't wrong, it's taboo. WELL IT'S CALLED TABOO FOR A REASON!
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You do understand how filtering works, Right? Items are selectively removed as to not show any sexual content. Disabling Safe Search doesn't optimise the results for porn, it just stops removing it. So my results are unbiased, and yours are.
As for using multiple sources I couldn't agree more! Let's check out what google has to say about 'MLP":
First result: 4chan's /mlp/ board, suggesting this is the most clicked on result. Let's have a look, shall we?
Thread #1: A post by lauren. Wow, I'm genuinely surprised.
#2: People collaborating to make a card for faust. As of now it's half porn
#3: A fanfic about *fucking Rainbow Dash. (*Having sex with, not derogatory adjective)
#4: "I want gouge out Fluttershys beautiful green eyes and use her sockets as fuck holes."
#5: "If you don't know what's been going on, and you've been here for more than an hour, leave and never return, but here is a rundown: Faust said /mlp/ is one of the much better places for discussing the show, when you get past all the garbage here."
That's just sad
#6: This one's just a picture of twilight and the lauren pony thing fucking.
#7: I don't even wana type that shit.
#8: Twilight dressed as a nazi
I think we've seen enough.
Now, as for us getting varying results your searches where 3 days after mine. You're gonna see different shit.
I shall use my visit to 4chan as an example: There is no way you're gonna see the same threads in the same order as I did, as more and more are being created every second.
DA get's about 1 submission per second, and google indexes 2tb of data every second. Now at ~100-1,000KB per image what do you think the chances of 504 new portal images being indexed in 3 days are?
Let's do the math, shall we? At 2TB a second and with 3 days difference that's 60 seconds * 60 minutes * 24 hours * 3 days * 2TB = 518.4 PB Or 518,400 TB. Or 518,400,000,000MB.
Now if images take up 50% of the data google indexes (And I'm being very fucking generous with that) then in the last 3 days they have indexed about 1,036,800,000,000 (One trillion thirty-six billion eight hundred million) images.
You say that you went through 504 images? Well if 1 in 207,360,000,000 of the images are portal related then you will get a fresh batch.
Oh shit, you said on DEVIANTART, Didn't you? Oh well, where did I just put my calculator?
From the tests I just did I have concluded that for every 10 seconds on DA about 12 items are submitted, or 1.2 a second (Raw Data per 10 seconds: 16 10 10 17 11 13 13 8).
Now how many seconds passed between our searches again? Ah, here it is: 259,200. Now at 1.2 submissions per second that's 311,040 posts between our searches. So if 1 in ~617 posts on this site are related to something that won countless game of the year awards then we both saw entirely different results.
As for variations in culture you live in the USA, yes? Provided you have always lived there and have moral values similar to those fed to you then, wait, it doesn't matter what YOU think, this is about culture, so I can read the law as it is: "In the United States of America, public indecency refers to conduct undertaken in a non-private or (in some jurisdictions) publicly viewable location, which are deemed indecent in nature, such as indecent exposure and sexual intercourse or masturbation in public view. Such activity is often illegal."
Well that answers THAT statement.
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Not only are you missing crucial information (You neglected to include that you weren't using a default filtering system. Which meant that we got different results when we should have gotten the same when searching MLP on bing). You are only using one source. It's foolish to depend on only one thing. And from my sources only about 13% (4/30) of it had any pornographic results. That isn't much. Searching Portal on Google, and Bing results with no pony images (from what I looked through, although I did get a few lego and Minecraft stuff) And on DA I looked through the top 504 images, and only found 13 pony pics.
Taboo means socially unexceptionable, societies differ from place to place. Your social background might make one thing a crime, while someone else's background says otherwise.
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And as for your signature that's just raw autism. "People with autism have social impairments and often lack the intuition about others that many people take for granted."
I really hope that your signature is a joke.
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When I stated that you didn't give the whole information, that was all it meant. I corected my self afterwords. If you wish to go off topic Ok, I was lossing my pacience. My one and single point I wanted give, was that when you look for something, and only for that one thing. That is all you will find. MLP porn might be rampent, but it's not as rampent as "innocent" works.
I do know what autism is, most of my family works in special ed. My signature might need some background information. It's from the song Forever by HURT [link]. It's not my favorite song from, but might be my favorite quote from him. The song itself is about having to hurt someone you love. The line however, means that I will understand things that others wouldn't even comprehend. Your comment is a testiment to that fact.
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I'm not. I'm not okay with the media preforming fanservices to the most damaged demographic in the most fucked up ways just so glue fapping autistic man-children can justify wanting to fuck underage horses.
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Holy fucking shit. A lover of Japanese culture (hey there lolicons) which is way more liberated on sex than practically any other culture therefore dwelling in almost every form of perversion (doujin ftw) dares criticizing the MLP older fandom when most of the world still thinks otaku are also sick perv or paedophile or gay. Congratulations, you're an asshole.
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That's like saying western media is perverted because there is also porn made in America.
Just because the porn industry in Nihon uses the same media they do for their mainstream entertainment doesn't mean I'm not equally disgusted by it as I am with the thought of people masturbating to brightly coloured ponies intended for 4-year-old girls. They're both fucking disgusting.
And you're saying that all that sick shit hasn't also been made in western cultures? You haven't spent enough time on the internet.
Sure, Nihon has a more perverted culture, so what? You can't say that the west hasn't been (and still is) objectifying women. Nihon just has the balls to say they're doing it because women are sexy, the western world just turns away and tries to change the subject.
And I never brought homophobia into this, that was you. Remember that. Thanks for holding back the cause, idiot.
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>That's like saying western media is perverted because there is also porn made in America.
It is. Media use sex to sell everything, I don't see it as a real problem.
>Just because the porn industry in Nihon uses the same media they do for their mainstream entertainment doesn't mean I'm not equally disgusted by it as I am with the thought of people masturbating to brightly coloured ponies intended for 4-year-old girls. They're both fucking disgusting.
People masturbate to what they want, it's their private life. There's nothing disgusting unless you're a prude little girl.
>And you're saying that all that sick shit hasn't also been made in western cultures? You haven't spent enough time on the internet.
No, you're just implying.
>Sure, Nihon has a more perverted culture, so what?
So why you love that culture yet can't stand pony fandom even though fap material isn't the most wide aspect of it ? Don't use your dumbass stats of google search (seriously, can you be more of a moron ?)
>And I never brought homophobia into this, that was you. Remember that. Thanks for holding back the cause, idiot.
I was bringing to your attention that people ostracise your kind for wrong reasons and yet you do the exact same thing with pony fandom. I find it quite amusing. Oh and did you know Japanese youngsters dye their hair because they don't feel Japanese ? Way to love Japanese culture. You're welcome.
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I know western media is perverted, that doesn't mean that everyone who watches the it crows is a sexually frustrated freak.
>People masturbate to what they want.
Sure. But when you can't search for something intended to be innocent and teach kindness without getting a tsunami of porn you have a problem.
Wait no, you don't. When a fandom becomes corrupt you can chose to leave.
When you cant search ANYTHING without seeing said specific franchise sexualised you have a problem.
Seriously, Bing image an videogame. You will see the characters drawn as ponies.
And then the characters drawn as ponies getting fucked.
BIG. FUCKING. PROBLEM.
I'm fine with people sexualising ponies IN THEIR OWN TIME, But when these messages of kindles and tolerance make you assholes expect me to tolerate you there's a problem.
Tolerate me, I'll consider tolerating you. Simple.
>No, you're just implying.
So you ARE 12 years old... great.
(Pss! Don't tell your mommy about this, but if you stay up REAALY LATE, there's this thing on tv called Adult swim!)
>So why you love that culture yet can't stand pony fandom
No, I don't love that side of Nihon media, I avoid it. Which is easy, because IT DOESN'T SHOVE IT'S DICK DOWN MY THROAT!
And oh no, Don't use statistics! It's not like they are the closest thing to factual evidence anyone has offered so far! Oh wait...
(If you haven't worked it out by know, statistics ARE factual by definition)
>I was bringing to your attention that people ostracise your kind for wrong reasons and yet you do the exact same thing with pony fandom.
No. I don't shove my interests down anyone's throats. Unlike bronies.
If someone criticizes MLP the response is a torrent of "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ITS THE BEST SHOW EVER! IT HAS A BRILLIENT PLOT, THE BEST VOICE ACTING EVER, AND THE SHOW IS SO IN DEPTH AND THOUGHTFUL! HOW CAN YOU NOT GET IT?"
If someone asks me about my interests anime is the last thing I would mention.
In fact usually I just stop at "Save yourself the time, I don't want to bore you".
>Oh and did you know Japanese youngsters dye their hair because they don't feel Japanese?
Honestly I thought they did it for the lulz, like I.
Seriously, how is this relevant? That's like saying "Did you know westerners cut their hair because they don't feel civilised if they don't?"
And quite frankly I don't even get the point you're trying to make.
People are influenced by the media in Nihon? Wow, shocking...
Hey, where's that guy who took up knitting because he say a cartoon pony doing it?
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The autistic comment was a bit too far :/
I love the show but I just cannot stand MLP porn, you're right, it's gross. But just because some people like it doesn't mean you have to throw all fans of the show under the bus.
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Read my other comments, I think I've explained myself.
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I have to agree(Although I think the bit about autistic man-children was a bit excessive). It's unnecessary fanservice. This demographic is the damaged, with all of the in-fighting and everything. The idea of species swapping is fucked up, and I can only understand the human appeal as being related to porn.
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Yeah, the autism joke was in bad taste... I'm sorry to anyone who may have been offended.
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If you want to insult the writers and actors that love to do what they do, then you really shouldn't belong to this fandom....
The same goes for the fact that you insult other people by saying they all want to fuck ponies...
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