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ArthurEngine — Don't know which fandom really is the worst

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Description I have a lot to talk about here about why I say the Pokémon fandom is dreadful.

Genwunners
This is the general complaint in the fandom. Some Pokémon fans only prefer the original 151 or 251 Pokémon, and only liked the anime when Misty, Brock, and/or Tracey were Ash's travelling companions. 

Shipping wars
This is one I really start talking; Every time Ash gets a new female travelling companion, fans either complain that they hate that travelling companion, or certain diehard fans start shipping that pairing like it's the best thing in the world, and bash other ships, Ash ship or no Ash ship, mostly Amourshippers or Pokéshippers involved (the former for the most part), always saying stuff like "Serena's the first girl to kiss Ash" (even though Melody was the first one, and also before Serena, Bianca (or was it Latias? If it was Latias, it wouldn't count) and his Bayleef (when she was a Chikorita, but then again, doesn't count because that was a Pokémon, not a human)), "Serena's the one for Ash", "Ash and Serena are childhood friends", "Misty was Ash's first travelling companion". I'm not including "An unused character was confirmed to originally be Ash and Misty's daughter" in these arguments because I can see where Pokéshippers go with that one. 

And to add to this, when it comes to shipping in general no matter what fandom it is; 

There are the normal shippers. Those shippers understand that not everyone ships their OTP, and don't attack those who don't support it. 

But there are the shipper brats. Those shippers take criticism or negative opinions of those ships as an insult, attack those who don't support their OTP, and only respect opinions they agree with.

Complaining about certain designs whenever new Pokémon are released
Some people complain about certain Pokémon not having original designs or having dimwitted designs (e.g. Dusclops, Bibarel, Probopass, Relicanth, Lunatone, Honedge, Escavalier, Accelgor, Crabominable) when the original 2 generations have unoriginal designs too (Koffing, Gastly, Seel, Magnemite, Mantine, etc.), though those were only the start of the franchise. 

The new voices are awful!
I will admit, some of the voices don't sound right, but that's not such a big deal. The reason the voices changed are because they changed from 4Kids to TPCI. The very reason the credits were changed to a black screen rolling the credits and why the intro to each episode has been 30 seconds long. 

Ash always losing in the Pokémon League
Well, this one is up to debate. Some learn each time that you can't win everything. Some were excited for the Kalos League, hoping Ash would finally win a league, but ended up 2nd place against Alain. Others argue that Cameron and Tobias cheated. The former cheating because he only brought 5 Pokémon to the league, while the latter brought a Darkrai and a Latios. And there was his battle with Ritchie which was rigged. Happy, Ritchie's Butterfree, put Ash's Squirtle to sleep, counting as a defeat. Finally, Ash's Charizard, automatically not wanting to battle Sparky, Ritchie's Pikachu, resulting in Ash losing. 

REUSED ANIMATIONS! LAZI GAYM FREEK!!!
Lots of other franchises for other games have used the same animations. What about Mario Party 4 through to 8? What about Mario Party 10 onward? 

DARE'S 2 MENNY POKEY MON!!!!
This argument is debatable. I can see where some people go with this. Because of how many Pokémon there are now, it is very hard to remember them all off by heart. 

I remember saying this on this stamp:  www.deviantart.com/kooborisapp…

And the uploader countered my argument and explained "There's too many Digimon as well as Yu-Gi-Oh cards". 
"Too many Pokémon"? Well, since there are almost 900 Pokémon now, I can see why some people say this, but here's the thing. There are over 1400 Digimon and I don't hear anyone complaining "DAREZ 2 MENNY DIJEEMON!". There are over 3600 Yu-Gi-Oh! monster cards, and where are the complaints that "DARE R 2 MENNY U GEE O MONSTUR KARDZ!"? So think of how many Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh! monsters there are before complaining there's too many Pokémon. 

And the one that takes the cake, and the most recent complaints: 
DARE IS NO NASHUNAL POKEY DEX IN SAWD AND SHEELD! WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
Yep. Fans are complaining that there is no National Pokédex in the upcoming Pokémon Sword and Shield! All complaining that their favourite Pokémon are going to fall into obscurity. Look, I may be disappointed about this too, but I'm not going to waste my time sending hate mail and death threats to Game Freak to get the National Pokédex into the latest games! And also, just because not all Pokémon are going to be in the game doesn't mean they'll be gone forever! At least some of your favourite Pokémon will be in the game, right? 

And it doesn't stop here. Fans are saying they don't want to get the game, like they want the franchise to fall into obscurity! That's not gonna happen anytime soon, especially considering Pokémon is currently the world's biggest selling video game franchise. Yep, even more so than Mario, Zelda, and Sonic. 


So there you have it. Reasons I say the Pokémon fandom is terrible. But then again, the hatedom is just as bad.... perhaps even worse.

Pokémon belongs to Nintendo.
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Comments: 242

ArthurEngine In reply to ??? [2019-11-10 02:28:51 +0000 UTC]

It's all thanks to those NationalDex purists!

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Gardevoirliker In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-12-30 00:12:20 +0000 UTC]

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ArthurEngine In reply to Gardevoirliker [2019-12-30 07:01:23 +0000 UTC]

Well, those are some examples of Genwunners. And it was only easier because of Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee. 

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Gardevoirliker In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-12-30 21:39:21 +0000 UTC]

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ArthurEngine In reply to Gardevoirliker [2019-12-30 22:10:39 +0000 UTC]

Talk about lazy. 

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catspats31 In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-11-10 02:56:33 +0000 UTC]

Does this moment make you think that the Pokémon fanbase is just as bad, if not worse, than how the citizens of North Petalburg City in the episode "A Double Dilemma" act like a fanbase towards Norman?

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ESLM-Studios In reply to catspats31 [2019-11-16 14:47:53 +0000 UTC]

Correction, the fandom is worse than that. They’ve become a Team Rocket within themselves.

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ArthurEngine In reply to catspats31 [2019-11-10 02:57:45 +0000 UTC]

Yes! 

I think the reason these NationalDex prusts complained is because they're worried whatever Pokémon are absent from Sword and Shield will become obscure. 

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thebananasp1its In reply to ??? [2019-11-09 22:11:17 +0000 UTC]

i actually really love Pokemon but i respect when people don't

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ArthurEngine In reply to thebananasp1its [2019-11-09 22:27:29 +0000 UTC]

This is a problem with the fandom. 

Shipping wars (especially the Amourshippers), Genwunners, complaining that Ashton kept losing (thankfully, he won this year's league), and worst of all, complaining about the National Pokédex not being in the new Sword and Shield games. 

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thebananasp1its In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-11-09 22:31:22 +0000 UTC]

yeah it has bad fans and good fans just like every fandom

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ArthurEngine In reply to thebananasp1its [2019-11-09 22:39:08 +0000 UTC]

My best guess as to why people are complaining about the NationalDex is because they worry that every Pokémon that won't be in the games will become obscure. 

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thebananasp1its In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-11-09 22:58:25 +0000 UTC]

that could be the reason. but i don't mind about the NationialDex

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ArthurEngine In reply to thebananasp1its [2019-11-09 23:06:52 +0000 UTC]

Besides, what about Black and White? They didn't have any of the old favourites. 

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thebananasp1its In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-11-09 23:11:37 +0000 UTC]

yeah unless you transfer them

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ArthurEngine In reply to thebananasp1its [2019-11-09 23:23:17 +0000 UTC]

Thankfully there's a Pokémon HOME app for the Switch. 

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thebananasp1its In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-11-10 10:47:52 +0000 UTC]

yeah

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AJayTheArtist In reply to ??? [2019-09-15 17:19:10 +0000 UTC]

twitter.com/i/events/117323805…

The fans can at last stop whining because Ash finally won a Pokemon League.

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ArthurEngine In reply to AJayTheArtist [2019-09-15 21:58:34 +0000 UTC]

That's a relief. And a victory! 

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AJayTheArtist In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-09-15 22:15:45 +0000 UTC]

Uh huh

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ArthurEngine In reply to AJayTheArtist [2019-09-15 22:16:49 +0000 UTC]

And he won Generation 7! Lucky number 7! 

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AJayTheArtist In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-09-16 17:14:03 +0000 UTC]

That's right   

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SweetPolkaDots13 In reply to ??? [2019-08-25 14:24:22 +0000 UTC]

I love pokemon but i hate fandom

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ArthurEngine In reply to SweetPolkaDots13 [2019-08-25 22:18:33 +0000 UTC]

Tell me about it.

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SweetPolkaDots13 In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-26 01:05:25 +0000 UTC]

Genwunners,bad fanart and fetish

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ArthurEngine In reply to SweetPolkaDots13 [2019-08-26 01:10:11 +0000 UTC]

And not to mention shippers who ship a specific ship to high heaven. 

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SweetPolkaDots13 In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-26 01:32:02 +0000 UTC]

Okay

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ArthurEngine In reply to SweetPolkaDots13 [2019-08-26 03:37:18 +0000 UTC]

And also, National Pokédex purists.

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SweetPolkaDots13 In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-26 04:18:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah


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ArthurEngine In reply to SweetPolkaDots13 [2019-08-26 05:03:24 +0000 UTC]

All because they worry the Pokémon that won't be in the new games will become obscure.

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Mimikyu-SeeeeeeMeee In reply to ??? [2019-08-18 04:57:22 +0000 UTC]

I outright despise the #bringbacknationdex bull too. And to know some people can't live without having a particular Pokemon part of the Galar dex proves their outrageous, emotional attachment to the franchise.

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ArthurEngine In reply to Mimikyu-SeeeeeeMeee [2019-08-18 09:07:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm disappointed about the fact that not all Pokémon will be in the game, but I'm not going to waste my time sending death threats to Game Freak to bring back the National Pokédex. 

They're only complaining because they worry that their favourite Pokémon will become obscure. 

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Mimikyu-SeeeeeeMeee In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-18 14:01:26 +0000 UTC]

Which the whole obscurity nonsense is NOT true fyi. There's especially merchandising for many of these mons so I fail to see how they'll be forgotten.

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ArthurEngine In reply to Mimikyu-SeeeeeeMeee [2019-08-18 22:40:03 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! So those people are getting worked up over nothing. 

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KawaiiMewtwo In reply to ??? [2019-08-12 22:23:42 +0000 UTC]

But yea the fandom is indeed very toxic at times.

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ArthurEngine In reply to KawaiiMewtwo [2019-08-12 22:51:17 +0000 UTC]

Especially with the latest news about the National Pokédex.

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KawaiiMewtwo In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-12 22:52:17 +0000 UTC]

Yes, like sure I’m not a fan of it either but I’m sure the games will still be great without the national Pokédex.

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ArthurEngine In reply to KawaiiMewtwo [2019-08-12 22:54:28 +0000 UTC]

There was no National Pokédex in the last 3 generations. None of the originals were in Generation V Pokédex. 

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KawaiiMewtwo In reply to ??? [2019-08-12 22:23:02 +0000 UTC]

I respect your opinions and understand why you’d hate the fandom. As a shipper(tbh I rather ship the Pokémon themselves than the actual trainers lol)/person who’s in the Pokémon fandom I usually avoid the toxic part of the fandom. I’m a very respectful person and accept most people’s opinions just as long as they’re mature about it and respectful.

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ArthurEngine In reply to KawaiiMewtwo [2019-08-12 22:50:56 +0000 UTC]

That would work, kind of like how Dane's Buneary was infatuated with Pikachu. 

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KawaiiMewtwo In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-12 22:51:14 +0000 UTC]

Yep :>

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ArthurEngine In reply to KawaiiMewtwo [2019-08-12 22:54:35 +0000 UTC]

Of course. 

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gamewizard-2008 In reply to ??? [2019-08-11 15:27:59 +0000 UTC]

This is coming from a total Pokémon outsider (the games I mean), but I don't really see the problem with "not having all the Pokémon in one game." It just means they can do more with the ones they currently have, or the world itself, with the extra data space. I mean, no one complains that the Zelda games don't have every single item from previous games stacked up, because Nintendo wants to think up new puzzles with new items. Plus, since each game takes place in a different region, and all those regions have Pokémon from every "previous" region... I mean, it sounds like it doesn't make sense from an in-world perspective. Why do some countries have more Pokémon than other countries? Granted, being able to cram more different Pokémon in one game is impressive, but how well are they balanced out in terms of things to do with them?

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ArthurEngine In reply to gamewizard-2008 [2019-08-11 21:51:10 +0000 UTC]

The only thing I'm wondering at the moment is how many Generation VIII Pocket Monsters there'll be. And not having every Pokémon in a region works like certain animals not allowed in certain countries. 

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gamewizard-2008 In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-11 22:53:39 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. XD

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ArthurEngine In reply to gamewizard-2008 [2019-08-12 00:21:13 +0000 UTC]

Yes.

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gojirafan2019 In reply to ??? [2019-08-10 13:10:53 +0000 UTC]

Each fandom is bad. Godzilla fandom: cringy mothra x godzilla (it makes no sense) people say it's canon but it isn't. Who ships a buffed up radioactive lizard with a giant moth? Fnaf fandom: shipping dead children inside animatronics. Pokemon: srsly? Stop shipping damn kids and pokemons with pokemons that don't make sense. Every single fandom is ruined.

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ArthurEngine In reply to gojirafan2019 [2019-08-10 22:21:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, a lot of fandoms are bad. 

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gojirafan2019 In reply to ArthurEngine [2019-08-10 22:58:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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GBAFormOfER [2019-08-09 14:22:02 +0000 UTC]

Me after finding out that there was PokéPorn before this


m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQyhLZsw…

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