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Another piece in my "Visions" project: an ongoing exploration of fantasy; pre-Raphaelite; and Victorian classicism inspired images.This particular image reminds me of the ghosts of women from another era...it's not exactly an attempt to recreate an old photo--but rather, to capture the *feel* of an old photo--something by Julia Margaret Cameron, or the Allen Sisters--the photographic equivalent of the work done by the Victorian classicists and pre-Raphaelites. I rather liked the slight overexposure on it--it made it feel more authentic, to me--and didn't attempt to correct that before posting.
The photograph this image came from is almost two years old--and features two of my favorite models--Becca and Stephanie--when they were just barely twelve. It was late in the afternoon, at the end of a shoot, and some of my photos were turning out skin tones that were almost completely lacking any pigment. In this shot, Stephanie in particular had such milky skin--and such haunting eyes, combined with her rounded cheeks and tiny chin--that she looked like she'd stepped right out of a Waterhouse painting. (I plan to do a themed shoot with her inspired by Waterhouse, at some point!)
Alas--I've never been able to fix the packground (plain grass) to my satisfaction...so my "Waterhouse" interpretation has never been realized...yet another reason that this final version represents "ghosts"!
For those of you who enjoy seeing "Before and After" images--here you go: [link]
(One nice thing about the B&A here--is that it allows me to show off my favorite color version of this image--so you can admire the beautiful skin tones--without my actually claiming it as a finished piece!
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Athansor In reply to ??? [2005-03-09 18:24:34 +0000 UTC]
Oh, she is--most definitely! I couldn't be prouder of her if she were my own daughter--when I see her struggling with the ups and downs and heartaches of adolescence...and striving so very hard to live within her deeply thought out belief system! Although very much her age in some ways--in others--she is so incredibly mature--and has the beginnings of an amazingly loyal, truthful, compassionate and feisty woman in her. Some man is going to be thanking his lucky stars, someday, when he wins her heart! I am truly honored to be counted among her friends.
I like what you say about revisiting old photos...it reminds me of something redlillith and I were discussing the other day--about rereading books or rewatching movies. I do it all the time--love it, in fact--whereas she gets the most enjoyment out of that first time. Funny how our perspective changes, depending on the subject, isn't it?!
Adding wings definitely would be fun...hmmm...I may actually wind up redoing that one!
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tecwzrd In reply to Athansor [2005-03-09 18:42:34 +0000 UTC]
Oh how I love reading old books again. I canβt do it if Iβve read it within the last 10 years as I remember too much about it and it just ruins it for me. I just finished reading the whole robot series [link] from Isaac Asimov again and fell in love with it all over again. Movies on the other hand I almost never watch again as itβs never as much a thrill to me as it was the first time. Itβs something about books and how they can take your imagination to an extreme that always fascinates me.
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Athansor In reply to tecwzrd [2005-03-09 18:56:18 +0000 UTC]
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I actually don't mind it that I remember everything--and have even sometimes read a book immediately after finishing it...but usually, I don't reread any more frequently than once a month...depending on the books... (Lucky for me I don't mind rereading--because I'm also a fast reader--with a tiny apartment--and not NEARLY enough room for all the books I'd need to make me happy, if I couldn't reread!)
I race through books at a breakneck pace...then like to lay back, and replay the whole thing in my mind. With each successive rereading--I find new layers and new nuances to feed my imagination...and--there is the joy of the familiarity of an old, old friend...
For some reason I never read the I, Robot series... I'll have to check that out, what with it being one of the all-time classics in SF literature! Isaac Asimov is one of the few people who I've ever felt would be intimidating, and hard to keep up with, if I met him...that man is just *so* brilliant--and *so* diverse! (Robert Heinlein would be fun to meet, however...I'd just be careful to not wear anything revealing! )
I don't know why I like rewatching movies, so much--but I always have. In fact--when I was in high school, my best friend and I went to see Raiders of the Lost Ark *53* times, the year it was at our local cinema! (I'm no longer quite that extreme! ) We'd go to the noon matinee...and sit through a movie three, or even four times, if our parents would let us stay out that late... (You were allowed to rewatch movies, in those days!)
tecwzrd In reply to Athansor [2005-03-10 14:24:20 +0000 UTC]
I do have a near-photographic memory which is generally very helpful in life. Movies seem to stay with me forever though and I just never enjoy them as much as the first time
The robot series is very enjoyable and I highly recommend reading them as they came out as they are very intertwined. Iβve never been a speed reader but usually get through a decent book in 3 or 4 nights. Time is something that I never seem to have enough of.
Raiders of the Lost Ark 53 times That is extreme
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Athansor In reply to tecwzrd [2005-03-10 14:46:13 +0000 UTC]
Near-photographic IS helpful--although I always wanted the Real McCoy! (I once met someone who had it all--eidetic memory--and perfect pitch, too--and I was *quite* fascinated!)
I'd be willing to bet that part of my rereading/rewatching enjoyment--in spite of remembering everything--is due to my having been an actor...since we *have* to find fresh meaning in the same old words...even when you've been doing a show for a year!
I'll check out the robot series--I could use some new books!!!
Time is something that I never seem to have enough of.
Boy, is THAT ever true!!!!!!!!! (That's another reason I'm glad I read so fast! I couldn't get through enough books to satisfy me, in the tiny amount of free time I have, if I didn't!
) (And three or four nights for a book--definitely puts you up there in the fast reader category--if not the speed reader category!
My poor boyfriend is one of those slow readers...it can take him a month to get through something--and it just KILLS me to even THINK about that!!!!)
Raiders of the Lost Ark 53 times That is extreme
Hey--I was a teenager--in love with Harrison Ford! Cut me some slack! :-P
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tecwzrd In reply to Athansor [2005-03-10 15:35:04 +0000 UTC]
If it took me more than a week to read a book I think I would loose interest It was hard enough for me to sit through the last Lord of the Rings
Now Iβm really sounding like a nerd
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Athansor In reply to tecwzrd [2005-03-10 15:40:27 +0000 UTC]
Oh--I know, I know!!! I truly can't even imagine what it would be like, taking more than a week to read something...but I can certainly understand why folks like that aren't big readers!!! π: 0 β©: 1
(But *oh* they were worth it!!!! As a passionate devotee of the books since I was a wee kidlet--I have to say that I thought these were among the finest movie interpretations of books I've ever seen... What an amazing accomplishment those movies are!!!)
(And you want to see nerdy??? Watch the fan credits at the end of the DVD versions of all three movies...if you can sit through almost the entire 20 minutes of them...you'll see my name, "Aurora Vanderbosch" in there with all the rest of 'em. Goofy--but I've loved those books for so long...that I wanted to be a part of the movie in anyway at all... )
tecwzrd In reply to Athansor [2005-03-10 16:16:00 +0000 UTC]
Ok
you win the ultimate nerd title for being featured on the LOTR DVD
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Athansor In reply to tecwzrd [2005-03-10 16:18:49 +0000 UTC]
ROFL!!!!!! STOP!!! You're KILLING me!!!! :-D
(Of course--that was the ONLY possible response--it IS embarrassingly nerdy! )
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tecwzrd In reply to Athansor [2005-03-10 16:30:05 +0000 UTC]
Couldn't resist
Plus I just love playing with the emoticons that DA has.
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Athansor In reply to tecwzrd [2005-03-10 16:39:22 +0000 UTC]
You DO use them very well!! I'm always amused by your choices!
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Forestina-Fotos In reply to ??? [2005-03-09 00:11:49 +0000 UTC]
Yay!!
A new one!!!
Beautiful and ethreal as always!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you capture these girls so wonderfully!!
*hurries to fav it*
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Athansor In reply to Forestina-Fotos [2005-03-09 11:48:40 +0000 UTC]
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I feel like you had a hand in this one, since you helped me rule out the color version...and I must say--it looks like you were right--because this one seems to have struck a chord with quite a few people! :-D
Thank you--as always!
Forestina-Fotos In reply to Athansor [2005-03-09 13:39:12 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome!
And anytime you want an opinion on anything again don't hesitate to send me a note! I'll probably love everything thought! It was hard enough trying to decide which one I liked that time because they were all so lovely.
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Athansor In reply to Forestina-Fotos [2005-03-09 13:59:39 +0000 UTC]
You better believe I will!!!
You're a good litmus test--because a) you understand my work and b) you seem to like it all (which is, of course, how I feel, or I wouldn't be posting it!
)--so when I'm not sure which one works better--asking you is kind of like asking myself--if I were able to step back from the process completely--and just see the pictures fresh.
And I was REALLY having a tough time giving up the colors I'd striven so hard to perfect on that image--I needed that extra objectivity you had! :-D
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redLillith In reply to ??? [2005-03-08 22:10:32 +0000 UTC]
stunning even then! just really amazing shot, hun. and they really do call to mind that long-lost time, that long forgotten innocence. their eyes are just so wonderfully expressive. the textures of their lovely hair and the translucence of their skin really does lend to the over-all feel of ghostliness . . . . I love it.
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Athansor In reply to redLillith [2005-03-10 16:17:40 +0000 UTC]
I sure wish I'd met them (and been doing photography!) when they were even younger, so I could've enjoyed them at more stages in their growth--instead of just on the brink of womanhood!
I have to say--your comments on my photos always make me so happy! They are so intelligent--and it's so obvious that you understand what I'm going for... Thank you so much for that!
(Actually--that's probably one of the big reasons I'm enjoying DA so much...I'm dealing with a group of viewers that already "gets" my stylistic influences...they're just a little--um--okay--a LOT--more off-the-beaten path, than many of the people who visit my main website. )
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redLillith In reply to Athansor [2005-03-10 17:45:24 +0000 UTC]
still, there is something very special about that whole stage of development, more so for girls than boys . . . the transitional phase is so very momentus. changes in appearance, perception, and expectations. many are counted lucky if they can manage to hold onto some of the beliefs from their childhoods and carry them through to adults. a belief in the unseen, the magical, the dreams. it shines in their eyes and their faces, like a beacon of hope for those who have lost all faith and belief in anything. girls like that tend to draw others to them like moths to flame. it is heartening to see that light in this day and age. I'm so glad my daughter never quite fully lost hers. it is a bit more subdued now, having to transition fully into the adult world now (18 in April!!!), but it is still there, lurking beneath the mature surface. seeing that always makes me smile, in spite of whatever may be frustrating me. your pictures bring that back to me again, that trace of innocence in a world gone mad, that little bit of faerie magic.
well, you are very welcome!! I love seeing images that evoke something inside of me. images that set off chain reactions in my occasionally slumbering mind. forces me to remember the things I've learned, things I've internalized. makes me reflect all of it back to the world that taught it to me in the first place. also, it reminds me that I am actually intelligent, as opposed to just being a walking talking encyclopedia set! which believe me, is a nice change!! since I've been out of college for 5 years, I've really missed intelligent discourse. so this is a bit of a challenge for me to prove I actually learned something!! and I've really enjoyed all of our little chats. in spite of our differences, we are very much alike, wich is refreshing for me, and renews my faith in the belief that getting along is more about similarities and commonalities than about what makes us unique . . . and that is key to finding harmony. there might just be hope for the future of our planet and our species!!
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Athansor In reply to redLillith [2005-03-12 01:06:43 +0000 UTC]
still, there is something very special about that whole stage of development, more so for girls than boys π: 0 β©: 1
Oh--you are *so* right about that!!! So many changes going on, so quickly--so much angst--such giddy highs and valley deep lows!!! (Glad I'm done with it, I'll tell you that!! )
Your daughter will be 18 in April? Just like me! April, I mean--not 18--not by a long shot!
your pictures bring that back to me again, that trace of innocence in a world gone mad, that little bit of faerie magic.
Awww...you're making me all misty! That is so much what I hope my art does for people--do some healing--building up--reminding them of their innocence--and challenging them to recapture that!
in spite of our differences, we are very much alike, wich is refreshing for me, and renews my faith in the belief that getting along is more about similarities and commonalities than about what makes us unique . . . and that is key to finding harmony. there might just be hope for the future of our planet and our species!!
The internet is the great leveler, isn't it?! It reminds us that we're very much alike--in spite of our differences--and that is so very important--helps us keep everything in perspective--and keep an open mind! :-D
redLillith In reply to Athansor [2005-03-12 01:53:47 +0000 UTC]
yeah . . . she's my little Taurus . .. very bullheaded! stilll, she's ma girl. and I love her bunches. when in April are you? hers is the 24th.
aww, I made you misty?? that is so sweet! don't think I do that often . . . still! {{sentimental hug}} backatchya!!
that is one reason I approve of the internet, it does allow people to reach out to each other and discover personalities and hearts without appearances or prejudices interfering. its a wonderful thing!
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Athansor In reply to redLillith [2005-03-12 01:59:29 +0000 UTC]
Ah--then she's at the end of the month--I'm at the start--the third, to be exact! (I realize I may be biased--but it seems like *such* a good time of year to be born! :-D)
And yes--you did--and thanks for the hug back!
that is one reason I approve of the internet, it does allow people to reach out to each other and discover personalities and hearts without appearances or prejudices interfering. its a wonderful thing!
AMEN!!!!! :-D
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redLillith In reply to Athansor [2005-03-12 02:02:05 +0000 UTC]
ahhh. yes, April is a lovely month (in most states) to be born. it's cool, and bright, with lovely days when the world just seems to be bursting at the seams with color. Spring and Fall are my all-time faves . . . .even though I'm a summer kid myself (june 11). I'm not a fan of intense heat nor intense cold!!
I always hug back . .. I'm a hugger and a snuggle bunny. good thing my son is too!!
yes, I second that thought . .
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Athansor In reply to redLillith [2005-03-12 02:06:57 +0000 UTC]
I love spring...fall...and winter--just not summer. But not YOUR kind of winter, either!
I think each season should confine itself to three months...and then fade away gracefully. Doesn't happen in Boston, I'm afraid!
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redLillith In reply to Athansor [2005-03-12 02:35:02 +0000 UTC]
I've only ever lived in one place where the seasons were 3 months each and each one faded into the other like a Walt Whitman poem . .. Tennessee. Nashville, to be exact. lovely place. and lucky for me, I rather like a certain amount of humidity!! I loved the way each season seemed picture perfect, right down to the number of days each lasted. you could smell fall coming for 2 weeks before the leaves started turning magnificent shades. winter sort of snuck up on us, dusting the ground softly with a blanket of snow, just like a christmas card!! spring was a lovely drippy soggy mess sprinkled with gentle breezes and bursts of color and life. and summer was a stunning affair with occasional breezes with just the right hint of cool when you needed it most, stunning displays of magnolia and night blooming jasmine . .. the air was just heavy with the perfumes of dozens of flowers and fruit was literally everywhere!! the farmers markets just forced it on you to get rid of it. *sighs* I really miss that place, so covered in trees and green! I've lived in many many states and towns, but that place will always hold a special place in my heart. I'm such a sap somedays!!! waxing sentimental . . .
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Xondria In reply to ??? [2005-03-08 19:55:54 +0000 UTC]
Very appealing. These girls would make pretty elves. Love the ghost effect.
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Athansor In reply to Xondria [2005-03-08 20:14:48 +0000 UTC]
Good call! They WERE actually dressed up as elves, in this half of the shoot!
In the first half--they were dressed as "Little Women"... Actually--here's Becca, with ears painted on by me, afterwards, just moments before this shot was taken: [link]
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Xondria In reply to Athansor [2005-03-08 20:33:20 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. You did a marvelous job on the ear.
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Athansor In reply to Xondria [2005-03-08 20:55:18 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! You are always so supportive!
That was really the first time I'd ever really tried anything like that...and unless I revisit that image it's unlikely I'd post it here...but I'm still proud of that ear!
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samurai23 In reply to ??? [2005-03-08 18:37:17 +0000 UTC]
Fantastic. Once again you've managed to capture a beautiful classic feel to the picture.
You manage to give it the old photo feeling, but retain the sharpness & quality of a modern image.
Your models have the most amazing eyes, really captivating.
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Athansor In reply to samurai23 [2005-03-08 18:47:23 +0000 UTC]
Wow--thanks! One of my standard "tricks" with any of my more romantic photos is to try them in sepia--just to see if they look better that way...and this one definitely did, so it got a whole treatment!
I *completely* agree with you about the girls' eyes, btw!!! Their eyes and fair skin give them an ageless quality that I never get tired of shooting... (There are lots of pretty girls out there...but many look far too modern for my purposes.)
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samurai23 In reply to Athansor [2005-03-08 19:03:43 +0000 UTC]
I just love the way your stuff is Romantic, in the artistic movement sense of the word, without being cheesy.
Not many people understand the subtlety of the work of that period, but you seem to capture it efortlessly. Your pictures should have a soundtrack by Brahms or Bruch or someone!
You're very lucky to able to work with such great models too!
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Athansor In reply to samurai23 [2005-03-08 22:05:30 +0000 UTC]
I must say--this is one of the nicer compliments I've gotten! I especially appreciate it--because I spend a great deal of time trying to make sure my work stays subtle...and out of the "cheesy" arena. (I've nothing against cheesy, per se--I'm just trying to do something different!)
You probably won't be surprised to hear that when I started taking pictures...I wasn't really familiar with the work of any photographers--at least, nothing more than casually liking this photo or that one. It was my favorite painters who I was emulating--and yes, I have distinctly Romantic tastes in art. I wasn't really intending to do anything unusual--but when other new photographers see my work (those who've gone to school for it, I mean), they frequently comment on my story-telling...or how my stuff doesn't look like photography...and I've come to think it's because my influences really *haven't* been photographers--but rather, artists and illustrators.
I DO like the idea of a soundtrack accompaniment to my images--Brahms, in particular, would be lovely! And it would make it all seem so Legitimate, wouldn't it?!
And yes--I'm always grateful to have had such lovely, timeless models willing to work with me!
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts--it's incredibly affirming and helpful to me! :-D
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snowfly In reply to ??? [2005-03-08 18:14:11 +0000 UTC]
I hope people take the time to look at this in "Full View"
This is wonderful. I love the slightly over-exposed look, and the transition of the color tone from top to bottom.
and their eyes
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Athansor In reply to snowfly [2005-03-08 21:55:14 +0000 UTC]
Ah...you noticed the color tone transition!!!! π: 0 β©: 0 I was rather proud of that, myself...I've used it in a couple of other images in the past--and am always surprised that no one comments on what I think is really rather subtly sophisticated and clever.
(The masses never DO appreciate those little tricks we like best, do they?!)
(It IS funny what a difference the full view can make to so many images, isn't it?! I'm guilty of sometimes just rushing through without looking at the full view...but I find I miss things, when I do that... :-/)
Oudeis-stock In reply to ??? [2005-03-08 17:41:36 +0000 UTC]
gosh!!! This girls are really like ghosts
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Athansor In reply to Oudeis-stock [2005-03-08 17:45:43 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!!! Then I've achieved what I was going for!!!
(Until an audience views your work--you're never really sure if you've "got it right"--or if only you can see what you're seeing!)
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Oudeis-stock In reply to Athansor [2005-03-08 17:58:13 +0000 UTC]
but who are your models?
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Athansor In reply to Oudeis-stock [2005-03-08 18:35:56 +0000 UTC]
They are two young ladies from my church--Stephanie and Becca. I work with them as often as possible, because a) they're a joy to work with and always very professional and b) they enjoy dressing up for me and posing for me for hours on end. If you look at the other photos I've posted so far, all but "Luthien Tinuviel" feature Becca, Stephanie, or Stephanie's sister, Kaitlin...
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Oudeis-stock In reply to Athansor [2005-03-10 17:07:31 +0000 UTC]
Oh,I think that dressing and posing for someone like you is very enjoyable!!! Becca is really beautiful,she's like a preraphaelite young madonna
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Athansor In reply to Oudeis-stock [2005-03-10 17:17:01 +0000 UTC]
Well--*I* always have a good time at a shoot--laughing and joking with my models, trying to get them to relax into just the look I'm watching for...and everyone I've ever worked with has said they've had a great time...but I continue to be amazed at the professionalism and patience of these young ladies--at an age when, let's face it--patience is usually not one of your virtues!
And yes--Becca is most definitely a little beauty--with the sort of timeless look that the pre-Raphaelites were so enamoured of!
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greglief In reply to ??? [2005-03-08 17:33:08 +0000 UTC]
This is stupendous! And thank you for the before-and-after link... the colour version is lovely, but this version conveys soooooooo much more emotion.
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Athansor In reply to greglief [2005-03-08 17:44:02 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
Yeah...and I've tried so very hard to come up with a color version that is emotionally moving...but no matter how hard I try--I just come up with two pretty girls, with beautiful skin tones... :-/
You can't win 'em all, right?!
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greglief In reply to Athansor [2005-03-08 18:34:01 +0000 UTC]
Yeah... drat that beautiful skin!
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Athansor In reply to greglief [2005-03-08 19:08:42 +0000 UTC]
LOL!!!! I asked for that!!!! :-D
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