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AtheosEmanon In reply to SammieTheBird [2020-03-04 23:07:37 +0000 UTC]

With the exception of a vasectomy and waiting a few months and getting your tubes removed or some health issue that would leave on infertile ... all sex has the risk of pregnancy

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SammieTheBird In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-03-04 23:28:32 +0000 UTC]

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AtheosEmanon In reply to SammieTheBird [2020-03-26 05:39:59 +0000 UTC]

just back in town,  huh?

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to SammieTheBird [2020-03-01 22:08:02 +0000 UTC]

Actually, the chances of getting pregnant after having sex is around 30%. Which is fairly low.

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SammieTheBird In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2020-03-02 09:03:04 +0000 UTC]

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to SammieTheBird [2020-03-02 14:23:56 +0000 UTC]

Here's the source, and I can 100% guarantee that this is not biased in any way:  www.bustle.com/p/should-i-use-…

"Less than one in 10 women who use these methods will get pregnant within a year. However, as you may have learned in health class, there's always at least a small chance of getting pregnant unless you completely abstain from sex."

Of course, the odds vary a little depending on the woman's menstrual cycle.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-16 10:02:43 +0000 UTC]

Yes, celibacy will not result in pregnancy but with respect to your " it's your fault for being an unprotected whore"

Condoms are only 98% effective, meaning even if you do use protection that there is still a 2% chance of pregnancy

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-11-16 17:40:46 +0000 UTC]

If there's only 2% chance of abortions then why are so many abortions even happening? Why is it so hard to find good homes for children while the government can pay lazy people in welfare to not work? You think with all of that money being thrown out we could actually do something to fund a better foster care.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-17 12:03:35 +0000 UTC]

"If there's only 2% chance of abortions then why are so many abortions even happening?"

Where did you see there is a 2% chance of abortion?

the 2% was in relation to your comment of use protection as if that is a 100% way to ensure no pregnancy

"Why is it so hard to find good homes for children while the government can pay lazy people in welfare to not work? You think with all of that money being thrown out we could actually do something to fund a better foster care."

It takes so long to find good homes because in America we have one of the longest wait times for foster children, taking in some cases years to qualify as a foster parent - -which is why many people with money tend to adopt foreign born kids because their wait times are far shorter.

With respect to welfare, I am not opposed to the welfare system, do some people abuse it? sure, but generally speaking I have seen no wide conspiracy of a large percentage are abusing it. I believe the Administration of Children and Families said there is between a 3-5% in the modern are a- -back in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s it ranged as high as nearly 20% because the technology was not as great and we could not track the payments.

Though your premise is false

www.cbpp.org/research/food-ass…

When you remove disabled people, children and the very old most people who receive welfare assistance actually do work..  they sadly just do not make enough to afford a living.

in America 52% of your workers make less than 32K a year..

"thrown out we could actually do something to fund a better foster care."

I have no general issue with that but most foster care systems are run through the state, with slight oversight from the federal government.

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-11-17 12:56:18 +0000 UTC]

There's really no excuse though, because you're still killing a human being that had just started growing inside of the womb, if maybe we stopped shunning traditional values for once people would realize that it's better to raise a family that way there would be more homes for children to go to. But no women would rather be single and slave themselves off at some corporation in the name of gender equality. Just like the other person down below who thinks it's so outdated to start new generations.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-17 15:19:42 +0000 UTC]

"There's really no excuse though, because you're still killing a human being that had just started growing inside of the womb,"

There being no excuse is your personal opinion, not mine. You are entitled to that opinion but does not mean one needs or outright should agree with such an absolutist view

"if maybe we stopped shunning traditional values for once people would realize that it's better to raise a family that way there would be more homes for children to go to."

... I am a Black man in America, "traditional values" often sound nice and good but defining what exact values one mean would be where I would start

"But no women would rather be single and slave themselves off at some corporation in the name of gender equality."

This made absolutely no sense in the connection to abortion, are you saying that women should not strive to be more equitable in society? That they should just accept certain gender/sex expectations because they are women?

When it comes to America I often remark before they freed the slave, they freed the woman. Slavery was officially abandoned, somewhat, in 1865... yet it was not until 1862 the Homestead Act of 1862 which finally gave women the right to own property, bank accounts, etc without the need for a male signature.. then you had the voting rights act of 1965 at which just a few decades later is when women got their right to vote.. how far back is this "traditional value" of the woman do you want to go? because traditionally, historically before a century a go their value was solely to make babies, and be stay at home mothers..

"Just like the other person down below who thinks it's so outdated to start new generations."

Which person? quite a number people commented. Humans, like any animal, generally speaking will continue to propagate the species, I see no stop to that nor do agree that there should be no more generations

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-11-17 16:22:27 +0000 UTC]

What I'm saying is that the lack of old conservative values are what is causing the current generation of human beings to become so careless about our own offspring, race, nations and religions, if we still believed in these things then we would understand that abortion is a morbid practice that is partaking in the degeneration of the human race. People would rather be single genderless hipsters that fight for ridiculous ideas instead of supporting the country and it's military to keep it strong against foreign invaders. Abortions and the lack of interest to have and raise children properly are two major reasons why western civilization is dying.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-18 15:40:11 +0000 UTC]

"old conservative values"

those old conservative values, wanting to conserve are the values that sought to keep people who look like me in chains, who sought to keep people who look like me from the voting booths.. I fuck those old conservative values.. if a man is to one day walk upright he must abandon the oppression of the chains dragging behind him and that is what I think of those old conservative values.. the chains attempting to hold man back.

"careless about our own offspring, race, nations and religions,"

I would study your welfare system in its inception which in my view started the breakdown of the family .. somewhat because it said they could not be married and if married had to make near poverty wages between the two of em so to get help many folks had to divorce and not live together or live together in secret to get the aid they required.

and.. meh, I am an atheist so I tend not to care what one's religious views are as long as they do not want the law to bend to that view

"f we still believed in these things then we would understand that abortion is a morbid practice that is partaking in the degeneration of the human race,"

That makes no sense, there is no evidence that abortion being legal leads to the degeneration of the human race.. I would argue not having their most basic needs met when there is an abundance to meet those needs is what leads to a degeneration of your species.

"People would rather be single genderless hipsters that fight for ridiculous ideas instead of supporting the country and it's military to keep it strong against foreign invaders. Abortions and the lack of interest to have and raise children properly are two major reasons why western civilization is dying."

Give a few example, I may agree or disagree but since you did not premise your argument with a firm base on the specifications of the ridiculous I cannot then say if I agree or not.

... Western civilization is dying hmm how does one define western civilization? freedom to be and choose who you are.. or the White Judeo-Christian concept of a society of homogeneous view of the melting pot .

I prefer the Salad Bowl to the Melting pot theory of civilization personally

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-12-12 05:05:12 +0000 UTC]

Why is abortion being treated as a normalized practice if it should be a choice? Why not just let it be a last resort if there's nowhere for the baby to go? Or do you just think that women should just get an abortion done anytime no matter how she gets pregnant? I really don't want abortion to be a last resort but I would rather go through further lengths to find a home for the child first.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-12-25 16:05:20 +0000 UTC]

Been away on a job so just seeing this reply

"Why is abortion being treated as a normalized practice if it should be a choice?"

Something can be both a normal practice and a choice, that is not a mutual exclusive thing

"Why not just let it be a last resort if there's nowhere for the baby to go?"

Who decides this for the woman? You? herself? her doctor?

"Or do you just think that women should just get an abortion done anytime no matter how she gets pregnant?"

Pretty much, yeah, most women who have abortions do so in the first 12 weeks, around 96% of abortions happen there.

"I really don't want abortion to be a last resort but I would rather go through further lengths to find a home for the child first."

If the woman wants to bring it to term, and then decide to give it up for adoption, okay. I do not think the State should force a woman to bring an unwanted pregnancy to term if she does not want to

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-01 18:06:51 +0000 UTC]

If the woman can prove she was raped then the government can consider letting her go through the abortion procedure but I would still prefer giving the fetus a chance if there's anyway to find someone that's willing to take the baby. For any other reason I don't think the woman should decide if a living being should live or not. Because it's her fault for getting pregnant and it's the other's fault for not thinking it through before engaging in sexual intercourse and it's unethical to treat the first stage of a human being as disposable waste that can be discarded when it's not wanted.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2020-01-02 08:17:32 +0000 UTC]

Why should abortion only be allowed in cases of rape?

" don't think the woman should decide if a living being should live or not."

But who exactly are you to dictate what someone else can do what their own body?

"Because it's her fault for getting pregnant and it's the other's fault for not thinking it through before engaging in sexual intercourse and it's unethical to treat the first stage of a human being as disposable waste that can be discarded when it's not wanted."

It is not really unethical, you may disagree with allowing the abortion of cells before they become viable.. but that seems to be the most ethical .. the majority [66%] of abortions occur around week 8 and around 94% occur before week 12... later abortions are usually due to medical related issues

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-05 19:50:53 +0000 UTC]

Doesn't matter how small it is, as long as it's in the mother's body it's a human being in the making. You wouldn't be thinking that way if you weren't so careless about your own people. It explains why most leftists who are for abortion often show little regard for their nation and race and would carelessly let it fall apart.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2020-01-05 23:44:55 +0000 UTC]

"so careless about your own people"

What people? humans?

The point remains who are you to determine what someone else can do what their body?

you speak of "leftists" yet think that government should be the determining factor in one's reproductive rights,

Your premise also lacks merit, since you go on the economic ladder of nations, you would most often find in among some of the poorest nations on earth, have some of the most restrictive abortion rights

So your premise, is not logically, nor factually sound.

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-06 00:48:02 +0000 UTC]

The world is running out of white people. The left wants more whites to have abortions so our numbers will decline faster, so the hordes of immigrants that keep coming in can outbreed us in our own countries resulting in them becoming just like their third world homeland. That's why abortion is a threat to the caucasian/aryan race because those who advocate for abortion are anti white racists that want to see whites being outbred to extinction. However if more whites woke up and started breeding within their own race and went against mass immigration our numbers won't decline and we can get our birthrates back up with everyone else's. So abortion is white genocide and anti western.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2020-01-07 15:36:27 +0000 UTC]

"The world is running out of white people."

Well the world is majority non-White as is.. so you only care about the Whites it seems"

"The left wants more whites to have abortions so our numbers will decline faster, so the hordes of immigrants that keep coming in can outbreed us in our own countries resulting in them becoming just like their third world homeland. That's why abortion is a threat to the caucasian/aryan race because those who advocate for abortion are anti white racists that want to see whites being outbred to extinction. However if more whites woke up and started breeding within their own race and went against mass immigration our numbers won't decline and we can get our birthrates back up with everyone else's. So abortion is white genocide and anti western."

So your entire argument is you want more white babies than some general opposition to abortion..

lmao @ those who advocate for abortion are anti White racists..

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-10 18:24:35 +0000 UTC]

Well yes.. Whites should work on increasing their own native population and teach their children that it's important to protect and preserve your own race and nationality rather than focus on gender issues which are non important. But however gender does not fit with this topic. However the reason I brought up the race issue among this abortion debate is because abortion and racial concern do have a connection. Why? Because those white left wing elitists who are very resentful to their own race and heritage want other whites to have less children while others outside of their race multiply like rabbits. As I said before, the left loves it when whites are so careless and would rather destroy the west because once that happens, we all become weak, there's less and less of us because whites would rather not have children and support traditional values. When that happens foreigners that have come here will keep having children until we're eventually a minority in our own nations. Resulting in dangerous religious taking over which leads to sharia law getting implemented and we all know how women are treated under sharia law right? And it all starts when the hard working white men disappear. That's why abortion is not only cruel and inhumane to our own species, but also very racist and anti western. It does sound like I'm repeating myself but it is on point.
www.deviantart.com/dagur-berse…

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2020-01-13 14:31:59 +0000 UTC]

So in short you defeated your own argument.. it became less about abortion and more about a racial aspect of keeping white folks around.. a harder argument to make if one is only against abortion out of this great racialist fear.

A very dumb argument.

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-28 18:41:43 +0000 UTC]

As I said several comments ago, women should refrain from sexual intercourse if they simply don't want to have children. But I believe that if women wanted to live happier lives they should focus on having children and keeping the family together rather than living a life of pointless career chasing and loneliness.
This video says it best youtu.be/pNi0egotQ-w
Western society is actually going downhill because of low birthrates and depression. If only women decided to be stay at home moms they would feel like they've actually accomplished something in their lives. Why do we always see so many posts on the internet of people saying they want to die? It's because of loneliness and the lack of motivation to pursue a significant other that will build them a better life of happiness and children to raise. Other than just living alone and only having materialistic objects to feed our never ending void of wants. Sure it's a difficult thing to start, but the fulfillment you get from it at the end is far more rewarding.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2020-01-30 18:53:17 +0000 UTC]

Yes, you said that from the start but your subsequent comment of "white genocide" and the link showed you pretty much only care about the White children aborted.

..... the premise of your first sentence implies they have to choose between a career and a family, many do have both.

yes, primarily whites have seen their birthrates decreasing, and why they decade by decade are smaller and smaller percentages of the society... vs their population continuously growing.. the population is just not 99% white anymore.

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-12-02 23:59:43 +0000 UTC]

He thinks that being single and childlesss is anti-western, whatever the hell he means by that. He actually said that argument to me.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2019-12-25 16:02:38 +0000 UTC]

Is that what he thinks, hmm I think that is nonsense view if I am being honest.

sorry for the late reply been away on a job for the last month

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-12-25 17:09:21 +0000 UTC]

Pfft, right?

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2019-12-26 13:25:21 +0000 UTC]

his reply to me above your comment, I admit did not make much sense either with respect to why is it normal if it is a choice

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2019-12-26 18:15:07 +0000 UTC]

I guess he has no understanding of normalcy and free will, then.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2019-12-30 14:18:34 +0000 UTC]

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WOLF97777777 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-10 18:30:39 +0000 UTC]

Funny thing is that your friend here actually blocked me before I could get another point across. That's why I haven't been responding to them lately.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to WOLF97777777 [2020-01-13 14:30:21 +0000 UTC]

"my friend" I actually do not know them. Aside from their reply to you.

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WOLF97777777 In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2019-12-12 05:08:05 +0000 UTC]

White people are more likely to be victims of abortion indoctrination, because the elitists who often advocate for abortion are not surprisingly left wing and abortionists want white people to slow their birth rates.

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-12-12 16:12:43 +0000 UTC]

"White people are more likely to be victims of abortion indoctrination"

Indoctrination is not race-specific, nutsack. You seriously have to be that deluded to think that medical "indoctrination"--as far as abortion is concerned--is propaganda and lies when all you do anymore is spew the same exact thing you're wholly against.

"the elitists who often advocate for abortion are not surprisingly left wing"

Uh, they pretty much are, believe it or not. It's the right that very strongly opposes abortion.

"abortionists want white people to slow their birth rates."

Do I have to be an abortionist to want people (not just the white, in case you missed that point) to slow down the birth rate? It's true that I'm not, but people want the birth rate to slow down for various reasons. Most people would answer that because the whole world is overpopulated, but my answer would be due to environmental reasons. A species population that is too high only equates to the degradation and eventually destruction of their respective ecosystem and environment. Humans are no exception because we're pushing to eight billion people on the planet and it's estimated that we'll reach ten billion by 2050.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2020-01-07 15:37:47 +0000 UTC]

I did not see this before.. I should have known this is where he would lead

www.deviantart.com/comments/1/…

he just said he is not really against abortion but his main view  is that he wants more white babies and people who are pro abortion are anti white racists.. shakes head

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-07 17:01:37 +0000 UTC]

He's just proving himself further and further that he's pro-birth, regardless of the consequences.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2020-01-08 11:51:47 +0000 UTC]

Yup, as long as more white babies are born, he does not care about anything else.

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-08 17:03:32 +0000 UTC]

It pretty much baffles me that he thinks whites are a dying race when we (the whites) are not actually dying out in real life. I would bet that he's a conspiracy theorist along with pro-birth.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2020-01-13 14:35:58 +0000 UTC]

He seems a bit bothered that they are no longer 80 ..90% of the Western world.

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to AtheosEmanon [2020-01-13 16:57:02 +0000 UTC]

I bet he doesn't even know what oppression actually means.

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AtheosEmanon In reply to pokemonsonicgirl123 [2020-01-17 21:26:37 +0000 UTC]

I would agree with you, his arguments makes no sense..  to be only against abortion for a certain group makes no sense

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summerballad In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-12 01:14:03 +0000 UTC]

what about the guys?? they're just as responsible 

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WOLF97777777 In reply to summerballad [2019-11-12 01:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Just say no, don't let your boyfriend guilt trip you into doing it.

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summerballad In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-12 23:59:25 +0000 UTC]

ok, but i meant as in the couple both want to have sex 

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WOLF97777777 In reply to summerballad [2019-11-13 00:27:27 +0000 UTC]

Then it's both their fault, use a damn condom and stop making excuses to kill babies because of your irresponsible actions.

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pokemonsonicgirl123 In reply to WOLF97777777 [2019-11-15 02:07:56 +0000 UTC]

Contraception isn't 100% effective, so they get abortions anyway, nutsack.

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