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Description Starting the new year in a radiant way.

--Mithras, Heroic god of light-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The god worshiped by the Roman cult of the Mithraic mysteries, a mystery religion that was practiced
in the Roman Empire from about the 1st to the 4th century CE. To the Romans, the mysteries were
regarded as having originated from Persian or Zoroastrian sources and then brought to Rome as some
sort of exotic religion, and in fact, a god/being named Mithras does exist in both Zoroastrian and Vedic
mythologies as bringers of light and order, but they bear little resemblance to the Roman god in many
aspects including depictions, stories, rituals and so on. Mithras is characterized mainly by sculptures
and structures dedicated to the god found by archeologists, but without any written record detailing
the mysteries having been found to this day, almost nothing is known for sure about any of it, and lots
of speculation, educated guesses and misinformation runs rampant about the god even among
scholars. Among the sculptures found, three of them are pretty well known, the first one, depicting
the god slaying a bull as a sacrifice under the watch of the gods Sol and Luna, the second one
depicting him having a celebratory banquet with Sol over the bull's hide, and the last one depicting his
birth, emerging as a fully grown adult completely naked from a chunk of rock. His temples, little private
underground chambers called "Mithraeum" were rich with symbols of the sun, moon, star and zodiacal
signs, leading many to believe that the religion had strong astrological connotations. Mithra himself was
portrayed as a young man dressed in typical Anatolian clothing, with a Phrygian cap, usually holding a
knife or a torch, and with a cape emblazoned with the stars on the inside. To join the cult
you had to be initiated in it through some connections and by passing some tests. Only men were
allowed to join, with the cult being especially popular among the Roman military. It's early secretive
origins were also very similar to the early days of Christianity in the Roman Empire at the same time,
with both religions, along with many others, competing to claim December 25th as a day of celebration
to their own gods. This and some other facts has lead some scholars to claim the two religions were
actually early rivals, although many dismiss this as too big of a stretch to make.
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This was actually supposed to be a Christmas post following Jollybird, but well, you all know how awful I am
at managing my time by now, so this is the norm now. Happy...Christmas everyone? That's not right, is it?

Mithras is actually one god I had hoped to tackle for a long time, as reading about the mythraic mysteries brings
to mind a lot of memories from the days I first started to have a real interest in mythology. Unfortunately, I'm
pretty sure he's not a very interesting figure to many of you guys, even to the ones who actually have some
interest in mythology... And even to those who know about him... There's A LOT of misinformation about him
on the net, so it's hard to talk to anyone about it without having to explain a lot and try to correct some
mistakes first, so yeah. Even so, with December 25th being associated with him (even though I'm only finishing
it now), I thought this was a good time as any to draw him!... Well, it was either him or Odin, which I know many
of you would've preferred, buuuuut... I wasn't in a very "Norse-y" mood, I guess.

There's not much to say about the design itself though... It's based on his typical appearance on the famous
bull-slaying scene , but now the bull has already been sacrificed and he's lifting its head up in triumph.
I've added a zodiac wheel on his back based on some of his portrayals  (also inspired by the greek god of
the passing time and zodiac, Aion ), but resembling a giant cog this time, to drive home the cyclical nature of the
forces he's associated with. Also, star capes are back ! Finally a reason for me to paint outer space again, I've 
really missed doing this ever since Omniel and Stolas way back then.

Well, that's it from me, hope you all liked it!  
See you all next time!
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Comments: 44

Hells33k3r [2021-05-05 17:02:02 +0000 UTC]

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AtmaFlare In reply to Hells33k3r [2021-05-11 06:08:29 +0000 UTC]

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Hells33k3r In reply to AtmaFlare [2021-05-12 23:03:57 +0000 UTC]

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PoisonDLucy13 [2018-11-22 20:46:05 +0000 UTC]

I love it.  

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AtmaFlare In reply to PoisonDLucy13 [2018-11-25 23:41:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot! I'm glad you liked it!  

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PoisonDLucy13 In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-11-26 15:16:00 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome.

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GreenTeaCakee [2018-05-12 15:54:27 +0000 UTC]

I have an idea!
Maybe You could Zodiac drawings

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AtmaFlare In reply to GreenTeaCakee [2018-05-14 03:42:00 +0000 UTC]

I had already considered drawing the creatures who later became the constellations in greek mythology!  
As in, Chiron representing Sagittarius (Centaurus actually, but let's just gloss that over), Karkinos for Cancer, Scorpius for Scorpio, the Nemean Lion for Leo, and so on...
I'll probably going to do a few of them in future, but probably not the whole set, and none of them is very high on my priority list anyway, at least for now...  
It probably will happen, but not so soon, and not in a very complete form.  

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Animaltamer7 [2018-04-19 05:07:40 +0000 UTC]

Never heard of this god before seeing this piece, great artwork by the way I especially like the zodiac wheel you gave him nice touch!  

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AtmaFlare In reply to Animaltamer7 [2018-04-21 05:35:14 +0000 UTC]

Why, thanks a lot! Glad to know that, I was fearing the wheel was a bit too much.  
If you've learned anything at all today and liked it, it's more than I could ask for.  

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DylanCArt [2018-04-03 01:45:11 +0000 UTC]

Nice art work you did.

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AtmaFlare In reply to DylanCArt [2018-04-04 01:35:49 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!  

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DylanCArt In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-04-04 23:52:02 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome.

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Wannabe-Warrior [2018-01-21 21:39:27 +0000 UTC]

I had no idea the concept Mithras as a diety was initially a Persian one. Hard to find representation for ancient gods in the Zoroastrian canon when the mainstream western culture is fixated on Pan-Hellenic and Nordic stuff all the time. Great use of color as always! (Especially the underside of his cloak, holy shit)

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AtmaFlare In reply to Wannabe-Warrior [2018-01-21 22:49:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a bunch! Glad you liked it!  
This whole Mithras thing is indeed one of the most poorly understood and confusing subjects in mythology to this day, but in the end all we really know about it...It's that we don't really know much about it at all.  
Oh yeah, but both the Persian and the Indian gods were also initially a Proto-Indo-Iranian god by the same name! So we got 4 different gods called Mithras/Mithra based on the same thing! That's not complicated at all!
I mean, even with other similar gods such as Astarte/Ishtar/Inanna they at least have different names, even though they are at their core the same being, but not Mithra, no sir!
You say it's hard to find a representation of these guys in western culture... But have you tried to type the name of any god in japanese on google images? XDDDDD
You'll find a lot of them, but all of them very very wrong. The only things you'll see are a waifu versions of each one of them from a different mobile game out there, it's extremely frustrating when looking for references.

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Wannabe-Warrior In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-22 02:12:15 +0000 UTC]

I think mythology that is outside of Europe's sphere of influence is ignored simply because it's just that, but then I remember how poorly-represented Celtic, Slavic, Baltic and even Sami pantheons are portrayed in modern media. It really only gets preserved if someone bothers to document those myths in great detail, which is why the Greek Olympians have never caught a break since the Renaissance. That said, having Mithra be referred by the same name by several separate cultures but with different functions must be a massive anthropological headache. 
I genuinely fear what would happen if I googled "Tiamat Japanese", but with that said, I once watched a playthrough of a fanmade Touhou game where the final boss was a silver-haired, cross-bearing loli named "Iesua Nazarenus" (sound familiar?). If I can idly watch the major figure of my faith be portrayed as an underage girl in frilly clothes, I can probably stand a depiction of Hera with breasts the size of a small country. Believe me dude, Waifuing historical/mythological/religious figures a la FGO bothers me, but so long as I don't see hentai of it, I can probably function.

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AtmaFlare In reply to Wannabe-Warrior [2018-01-24 05:25:37 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, you're totally right. It's all very European-centered, but even so, only a few of them really get any attention, usually the most documented ones. People tend to flock to things they have easy access to or are more familiar with I guess... I would still make up some case for Celtic and Slavic being pretty popular enough among those who like the subject, even though nowhere near as mainstream attention. But have you ever seen anything from South America at all on any media concerning mythology? Even with series about mythology with extremely obscure beings and deities that are near impossible to find good sources on, I swear I almost NEVER see anything from South America.
Oh, if you type that one of the first things you'll find is actually FGO's take on it... Which is... Exactly what you're expecting. XD (At the very least she also has a proper second form that's not that much far off from her traditional descriptions, which is... Quite rare for FGO in general! XD
But well, while lolifying jesus is quite ballsy (even for touhou) at this point I guess that have already done the same to literally everything else in mythology or religion out there, be it gods, buddhas, whatever, so why treat Jesus differently...I guess? I can't say I'm quite numb to "waifufication process" yet, but I'm certaintly not surprised anymore. As a FGO player, the game still manages to REALLY annoy me every now and then with either their overly sexualized or genderbendered servants. Don't get me wrong, there's totally a case for some servants who SHOULD be sexualized because of their story, I say the same about depicting some mythological figures as well, it's no problem at all to draw a sexy Aphrodite or Hera, buuuuuut... Porn star Scheherazade and Naked Loli Paul Bunyan have seriously broken me. 

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Wannabe-Warrior In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-02-04 00:33:30 +0000 UTC]

It is upsetting that South American mythology is underrepresented in mainstream media, though to be fair, most mainstream media is coming from America to begin with, and over here everybody learns about the Olympians by 2nd grade and the Aesir by the time they're 11 (or at least whenever they watch their first Marvel movie). Celtic culture may be represented by fairies, leprechauns and the occasional druid, but I myself am still waiting on a modern take of the Battle of Magh Tuired or Tain Bo Cuilage. But anyway, I share your sentiments. I do actually want to learn more about indigenous South American mythologies yet and it's so hard to find information about them online or at libraries, especially in English. The lack of coverage on the Inca pantheon frustrates and saddens me. Hell, I didn't even know anything about Brazillian mythology until I found your gallery! But hey, plenty of people are tired of Greek and Norse mythology in media cause it's been done before. It's been "done before" since Homer. It's been "done before" for like 3,000 years now. For all I know, people will adopt an interest in more obscure mythologies as time goes on and we'll start to see more of that.

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AtmaFlare In reply to Wannabe-Warrior [2018-02-26 00:40:09 +0000 UTC]

I said that back some years ago, but I personally would still love for the battle against the Fomorians (with Lugh as the protagonist) to be adapted in any capacity to any media at all, but yeah, we're probably not going to see those stories adapted any time soon, at least not in a great way. But again, I do think Celtic mythology still does have a pretty vocal fanbase (so does Slavic mythology), specially from the UK and the US, that remembers it not just by it's stereotypes. And I think it's growing in size too, or at least seems I'm seeing more and more people each year... So there's still hope!  
Anything from South America that's not Incan though? HAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHA no, never. I'll admit one of the reasons I even drawed those was so that you guys could have some reliable english source on brazilian folklore. I've been researching some more Tupi-Guarani stuff to draw in the future, and I'll say it's being hard even for me. Those guys didn't leave any written records, and all with have are accounts by catholic missionaries (not the most reliable source). I've been having a much easier time finding spanish sources from Uruguay or Paraguay, where Tupi culture is still much more alive, but all of the stories are VERY different from what I know, and some are unrecognizable... So there's a lot versions of the same tales and characters to boot. I can't imagine how hard would be to find sources just looking in english.

But yeah, I'm optismic that we're going to have some more different mythologies gaining the spotlight some time in the future, we just have to wait some more!  

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Lukqmon [2018-01-21 18:19:50 +0000 UTC]

Imagine one day when you die, you look at the face of god and he's an anime dude. That would be awesome!

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AtmaFlare In reply to Lukqmon [2018-01-21 21:33:06 +0000 UTC]

Then we transform into our angelic super sayan forms and fly into the light while an awesome opening songs plays!  

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Lukqmon In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-21 21:38:15 +0000 UTC]

YES! On that day we'll meet his son, Cory - from "Cory in the house", which is my favorite anime, btw

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AtmaFlare In reply to Lukqmon [2018-01-21 21:40:51 +0000 UTC]

The radiant light of Cory will make us transcend our angelic sayan forms into a new dimension along with his sister Raven into the Hyper Heaven, which is a totally different place btw, it's much more rad than regular heaven.

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Lukqmon In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-21 21:46:55 +0000 UTC]

There's this house in "VR chat" who's walls are made entirely of Cory faces. That's where we'll rest for all eternity.

Lol, I found an image of that house i.ytimg.com/vi/UWdi3o0xaEc/max…

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AtmaFlare In reply to Lukqmon [2018-01-21 21:50:52 +0000 UTC]

...........Holy f*** you guys.  
...Although I guess that's pretty normal for VR Chat in general, it's hard to really be surprised anymore. Way more normal than all the Ugandan Knuckles memes we're getting, that's for sure.
But the cory meme is old as f*** by now by internet standards. It's time to move on internet!

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Luke-Marks In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-23 18:53:11 +0000 UTC]

Cory in the house is one of those memes that just won't die. It's always funny to see a comment saying "Cory in the house is my favorite anime" under "My top 10 favorite anime series" YT videos.

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AtmaFlare In reply to Luke-Marks [2018-01-24 05:55:19 +0000 UTC]

At this point I prefer the many variations, like "King of the hill is my favorite anime " and so on. The best part is actually seeing those unaware of the memes being trigerred by it. :^)
Also, I thought you had deleted you account. Don't scare me like that!

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Luke-Marks In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-25 21:51:30 +0000 UTC]

Miyamoto knows his anime XD


I made a new account because I hate the username on it (I mean "Lukqmon" is just wtf), among other reasons. Thanks for caring!

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AtmaFlare In reply to Luke-Marks [2018-01-27 05:29:53 +0000 UTC]

...I really don't think it's any less weird than "An attack used by a boss on the SNES version of FF6" XDDDDD
But sure, if starting from scrath makes you feel better, all the power to you!  

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Luke-Marks In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-27 09:54:51 +0000 UTC]

I mean, my username was just one of the reasons. As of now, I had that account for over a year and I had only 28 watchers. I don't like the artworks I posted there, so I can't expect any one else to. On this account, I'll try my best on each piece I put out. So, as you said, starting from scratch.

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AtmaFlare In reply to Luke-Marks [2018-01-28 05:57:38 +0000 UTC]

Well, for almost 2 years and a half here I only had 50 watchers. I hate almost all of what I've posted on this account by now, and some of my most despised works are now the most favorited. This all happens, everyone starts at the bottom and not everyone sees your art the same way as you do. But well, once again, if that makes you feel better with yourself and serves as some newfound motivation to push onwards, by all means, please do!  

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DoctorChevlong [2018-01-21 07:52:32 +0000 UTC]

Awesomely detailed, as always man ! It's funny because I just started to think about how I 'm going to picture Mithra, and you provide additional information on the mysterious god that I didn't have before I thaught you would keep the Phrygian cap though But the solar crown is neat too And don't worry about doing "unknown" mythological figures, I think it's even more interesting to do Personnally, it's been a while since I started to draw Mot

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AtmaFlare In reply to DoctorChevlong [2018-01-22 01:55:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a bunch man! Glad you liked it!  
It's hard to find reliable information about him with so many of that "Mithras predates Jesus" atheist bullshit around the internet, but the wikipedia article, although very long, it's quite complete about him in general. But I also recommend this video about the subject, it very neatly summarizes everything we (don't) know about him and corrects some false information circulating out there. So convenient!   

I actually tried a lot to incorporate the cap in it....A LOT. But... It didn't look very good on him on my style , he looked like a Smurf reject no matter what I tried.  
(Speaking of Smurfs, Cautes and Cautopates look like two garden gnomes  now that I take a better look at them)
Maybe it could've have worked if I made him a bit younger, I mean, Link is practically using a Phrygian cap himself (ok, not really) and it doesn't look that weird on him. I ended making him so manly because I wanted for him to look heroic, and the cap wasn't helping me achieve that. I just grabbed Sol Invictus/Mithra's solar crown and slapped up on him. A bit of mixed priorities here, I'll admit. Not the kind of attitude either of us should adopt when doing our thing. 

I think it's even more interesting as well! I always love finding a new mythological figure I had never heard before, and I imagine some people here might like that as well. (Actually, I do want to focus more on that in the future with possible, figures that I myself find interesting instead of just pleasing the general public. I would like to try Kisagai-hime/Umugi-hime, Glycon, Marzanna, and a few other obscure deities in the future   ). But while I don't really care that much about views and whatnot, it's always very disheartening to me to see something I put a lot of effort in being ignored by my watchers. I learned that for the first time when I posted Krun. I though he was the most interesting shit ever, and then I felt very defeated.

I LOVED your take on him! It was very creatively done! The barren earth devours all!     
         

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DoctorChevlong In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-22 06:47:27 +0000 UTC]

Okay, I think that if I do him, I'm going to draw him coming out of his rock (in a more dynamic way than the first Kaneko version though ) with the knife, the torch, the Phrygian cap, and some sort of halo structure behind him, with the zodiac signs on it, quite like the one you drew, but less cog-like Then, he could be wrapped in a snake and have wings, like that lion-headed figure often associated with him, or have a cosmic cape like your version's I'm not sure which one I'll choose yet !

I'm so glad you loved my Mot ! That was totally the intention !

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AtmaFlare In reply to DoctorChevlong [2018-01-24 05:39:29 +0000 UTC]

I would hold the cape so that he can doesn't have so many pieces of clothing as he's being born (why he still has the damn hat in those scultures is beyond me... I guess the hat is magical too?! ), but you can still put the cosmic texture inside the cracked stone he's emerging from, or something like that... Or make him fully clothed, or make the cape look more like a mantle to hide his nakedness, I dunno. You can totally go for the cosmic cape too if you want to, trying to make too much sense of all this isn't really necessary.  
Merging him with the lion-headed figure is totally plausible, but think... Then you'll be wasting a perfectly good design for a Yaldabaoth or a Arimanius!  
...But well, Yaldabaoth already has that serpent-like design to use as reference, which is actually more fitting for him, and Arimanius is such a obscure and poorly-understood god that it's hard to really justify a drawing just for him, so Mithra probably would make the most of it either way. Go for it my friend!  

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DoctorChevlong In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-24 07:23:32 +0000 UTC]

I thaught he could be naked under his cap and his cape (like a reference to Kaneko's first Odin XD), with one of his knees going upwards just to hide his Mara XD
But I already did Yaldabaoth, in my "Heaven Quest" collection As for Ahriman, I planned to do him since I started this brand new Mythological collection, but I want to do other sketches before confirming his design My first sketch looked like a tall and strong black-bearded humanoid, with pointy ears, large horns which are mostly horizontal before going upwards at their tip, big locust wings, and several scorpion tails

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AtmaFlare In reply to DoctorChevlong [2018-01-25 06:12:42 +0000 UTC]

Oh, it could work that way then! With the cape/mantle being used to accentuate his heroic nudity while also serving to cover him up as he's being born. It could look quite good! Plus, everyone looks more badass with a cape.  
Oh, right, totally forgot, sorry about that.
Oh no, I actually mean "Ahrimanius", not the Ahriman we know, they're different. Just as the Roman Mithras is different from the Persian Mitra, so is this supposed Roman "Ahrimanius" different to the Persian Ahriman. That lion-headed statue we all know and love, this "Ahrimanius" as it's called, it's supposedly a benevolent(?) god related to time and the changing seasons, not a god of evil and error. But as you can imagine, we have practically no information about him whatsoever. The lion-headed design would be most appropriate for him, but considering he's so obscure and poorly understood.... I wouldn't blame anyone for using his design on someone more worthwhile. It's indeed probably the best option just to mix him up with Mithras and call it a day.
As for Ahriman... I currently don't have any clever idea of what I would do with his design... Most of the ones I've seen to this day are just "the most demonic demon you can imagine", and I always thought that when the time came for me to draw him, I would do the same... I seriously considered designing Aka Manah and Druj though, with Aka Manah being heavily inspired on the Winter Lantern  enemy from Bloodborne.

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DoctorChevlong In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-25 07:30:25 +0000 UTC]

Okay I didn't know Aka Manah and Druj ! It's cool if you have design inspiration which is not actually connected to the demon itself ! Like Kaneko was inspired by pop culture visuals to picture some of his demons !

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AtmaFlare In reply to DoctorChevlong [2018-01-25 18:20:34 +0000 UTC]

Yup! The broader your pool of references the better! Be it archeology, mythology, gaming, movies, comics, fashion and so on!  

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FanFicFreak211 [2018-01-21 04:06:46 +0000 UTC]

Do you think you could make a yaldabaoth?

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AtmaFlare In reply to FanFicFreak211 [2018-01-22 01:57:38 +0000 UTC]

Eventually, sure! He's everywhere in the media these days, appearing as a boss everywhere I look, so I can't really ignore him forever. 
But for the near future, I don't plan on drawing him, not for now, but at least I do have a basic idea of what to do when that time comes, so it shouldn't be too hard.

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Rose-Hunter [2018-01-20 23:21:44 +0000 UTC]

awesome detail work 

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AtmaFlare In reply to Rose-Hunter [2018-01-21 21:33:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a bunch!  

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Rose-Hunter In reply to AtmaFlare [2018-01-21 22:59:44 +0000 UTC]

  you're welcome

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