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Name: Cain
Born: c. 75000 BCE; Purgatory
Died: N/A
Allegiance: Assassins
Bio: Cain was the firstborn son of the human-isu hybrids known as Adam and Eve, founders of the Assassin Brotherhood. Growing up directly after the apocalyptic Toba Catastrophe, Cain’s life was not an easy one. Every member of society joined together and did their part to help rebuild and survive. Cain himself became a farmer, harvesting grains and vegetables to contribute to the food stash. However, his crops were not as well-respected as those of other farmers, despite how hard he worked year after year. This, combined with the fact that he saw his parents’ Creed as an affront to progress, led to him developing a deep bitterness in his heart that never left him.
It didn't help that Cain also grew up in the shadow of his younger brother, Abel, who was quite the prodigy in the eyes of their parents and the community. Abel was deeply loyal to the cause of liberty and equality, and the animals he shepherded always earned him the highest praise. Cain grew to resent and hate his brother, even though he was the only one who showed him any true love and support. When Eve passed her Apple of Eden down to he guarded by Abel, Cain was infuriated. The older brother stormed off, running far away from society until he stumbled upon a place that would set him on the path of a new destiny...
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Would you do one for Abel? or maybe their younger brother Seth?
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Seth doesn't make any appearance in our stories so there's no plans to do anything with him. He doesn't really have any mythology to work off of either
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I didn't really feel the need to draw him a ref sheet since he's kinda a minor character in the story
That and I'm lazy XD
I might some day idk
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I simply adore your AC designs, and ISU related the most.
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Thanks ^^ That means a lot coming from you. Isu designs are always the ones I struggle the most with given how few and different reference sources there are.
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I have idea for my own interpretation of Cain, but this is for another time. I'm kinda tired of AC lately, I want to move to other, more original things.
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I can understand that. It's good to branch out ^^
Me personally, I'm determined to finish this fanfiction series XD I don't want to be that kind of online creator who just starts something big and never finishes it lol
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Then be like me! Never start anything! XD
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This guy. The REAL son of Han and Leia.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_…
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Oh XD I've only ever seen the movies. For me, the main movies of a series take the top tier on the hierarchy of canon lol
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You have no idea how much you are missing in the orignal EU. Disney new world-building (outside the comics and novles) is CRAP.
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Aww but I like the new movies XD My dad took me to see Last Jedi a few weeks ago because he's a hardcore Star Wars fan and wanted me to be able to see a new movie in the theatre with him. It was hilarious watching him geek out XD
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Oh. I enjoy the new movies too. But Disney screw up so much if you really look at the older stuff, and so on.
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To be honest, old EU was full of terrible stuff, mostly after ROTJ. I'm glad it;s gone, but I will miss Tales of the Jedi, KOTOR and Darth Bane trilogy.
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I've only ever seen the movies and one of the tv shows. Usuallly with bigger series like that I tend to avoid the EU stuff since there's just piles upon piles of it and I don't have the time or money for it XD Doctor Who is the other example that comes to mind.
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In anycase, you need to check out the old EU. Here the top ten.
io9.gizmodo.com/the-10-best-st…
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Funny, I just did some rewrites to my own Cain idea. Assassins Creed: Cain
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Yours is definitely a more pessimistic take than mine XD
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Yeah I'm more found of the; "Humanity is flawed but it can work to overcome this, but circumstances don't always let us, often leading to tragedy." Type of stories.
Moral Grayness is just something I find intrigued.
Plus when you think about it, just because a big disaster interrupted the war. Doesn't mean everyone would have let it go. Resentment and hate are persistent that way.
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Eh, I guess I'm more of the romantic "Believe in the good of humanity because even though there are bad people, humanity itself is not bad." Kinda like the original 4 AC games were.
I dunno, maybe I'm just a softy for epics about hope and love XD
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Really cause, I'm pretty sure the original Assassins Creed Games where all about showing that though their are good and bad people. It's rarely as simple as that. In AC1 the Targets Altair kills show conviction and faith in their goals, (with one exception) which where from a certain angle... Noble just brutal. The two sides want a better world. They just disagree on what that better world should include. (Freedom, or Order. You can't have too much or little of both.)
AC3's plot was essential a wake up call to reality for Conner. About how he can't just go around killing the people who wrong you, because there are consequences for your actions, and how not everyone you sympathies with are necessarily entirely good.
It's only really Ezio's and the modern stories that have the opponents be real bad guys. (Rodrigo as a evil mastermind who wanted power for his order. Cesare was just a dick.) Vidic was a egocentric douche, and the rest of Abstergo lot seem to have allowed the Corporate image to take priority over their secret society image.
Yes hope and love are at the core of the Creed. But even their actions can be suspect and aren't immune to arrogance. (They are kind of culty at times. Plus they are not above training children from a young age to kill. Which is not exactly on the level)
Recently the games are a bit too Black and White for me. The newer villains are just disappointing, unlike the original targets.It makes the conflict less... Human. I like the idea I'm not just killing some sadist, or an asshole who thinks he's a god, that they have at least some convictions or set of reasons for their actions that led to them becoming our targets.
Every death is a tragedy to someone, and the Assassins acknowledge that. Throughout the original games The Brotherhood went to lengths to teach that life is precious, after all. The reason being so they understand that taking a life should never become easy or loose it's weight. Less they become apathetic killers.
Sometimes I feel the developers forget these things.
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Hmm that's interesting. I've had the opposite experience XD The more modern games too me are just too grey, to the point where it just isn't fun anymore. It seems like Ubisoft just wants to make every side a villain and to me, that's just a turn off 
I dunno, maybe I'm just sick of seeing dystopia stories all over the place XD It's too depressing and unrealistic for me.
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In Origins, The Order of Ancients was very much an Egyptian group yet at this time, Egypt is in serious decline, having become increasingly dependent on Rome for support. What if that was the reason they were suddenly so desperate to get into the vault? They were trying to save Egypt from being conquered again and restore it to its former glory. Bayek of course doesn't believe them, denying that Egypt would fall and blaming the Order for all of Egypt's woes and that removing them will save Egypt.
Of course those of us that know our history knows that in handful of years Egypt will cease to be an independent nation and become a Roman province for centuries.
Bayek was basically out for revenge for those that made him kill his son, and he ruin any hope of Egypt for it.
Same for Aya. She put far too much fate in Cleopatra turning things around, but end helping the future Templars and also screw up Egypt.
History is full of minor evils for a greater good, or no clear good, or evil.
When Modern Assassins include Mao Zedong and Ho Chi Minh, I think it is fair to say that the Assassins have 'gone off the deep end' a long time ago.
See this hypothetical Spain Civil War AC game, it would be a twisted reversal of the 'District liberation' mechanic from AC Brotherhood: In which unlike with Ezio in Rome(In which every time you liberate a district from Templar control, the streets will become clearer, the people will become happier, and the entire area prospers), every time your Assassin protagonist liberates an area on behalf of the Republicans, the area will look as if the Vox Populi from Bioshock Infinite has taken the place over, as public firing squads will be organised for 'class enemies', Catholic clergy and property owners will be forced out onto the streets, as monasteries and churches gets desecrated and burned down. Things will not be any better in the Templar/Nationalist controlled areas, with things just being the other way around.
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I mean seeing as how the Order of the Ancients had a Roman general as their Grand Master who openly said he was trying to take Egypt for Rome, I highly doubt their goal was to prevent Egypt from getting conquered by Rome XD And Bayek and Aya immediately turned against Cleopatra when they saw how far she'd fallen, killing her with an asp and transforming their vengeance into justice for their countries.
Also Mao Zedong was canonically a Templar puppet but I digress
They did the Spanish Civil War setting in the AC Uprising comics. All the chaos was caused by a rogue Templar who manipulated his own Order and the Assassin Brotherhood into fightimg amongst themselves so that he could distract them and gain the Koh-i-Noor for himself and use it to wipe them out.
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But that's the big issue. He came out of nowhere. He was just some guy. A stand in.
Apollodorus should have play that role, with him betraying you and revealing that the Order had become fractured over what to do about Egypt. The Order members you had been killing were those trying to restore Egypt to glory while his group believed that Rome was their future and that all this time he had been using you to eliminate the rival group.
The thing about the Koh-i-Noor is a cheap shot really. It would have been better with both Assassins and Templar as the bad guys and are little better.
George Orwell would have started off as an Assassin, but become really disillusioned as he not just witness the atrocities, in-fighitng, and Red Terror carried out by the Republicans/Assassin, but also realising the true extent of just how much historical manipulation the two faction has done throughout the last 6000+ years.... And become utterly sickened by it. And when he wrote 1984 decades later, the novel's many ideas (The memory hole, doublethink, eternal war, Big Brother is watching you... etc) were actually all metaphor for the Templars and the Assassins.
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I feel like such an outcast in this fandom sometimes XD Everyone loves their dystopias where everyone is just an awful person for some reason lol
Ah well, to each their own I guess ^^
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Oh. Don't feel bad man. But imbalance it.
Aya still drop the ball. Even Bayek was not for Cleopatra from the start. And Aya did not listen. And look what happen.
All the great series has Moral Grayness.
Knights of the Old Republic games break away from the typical Black and White Morality of the Force. One hand, the Jedi, while trying to do the right thing, have a well-deserved reputation for being manipulative, closed-minded, and paralyzed with indecision in the face of crisis so soon after the previous one where they made a lot of mistakes. On the other, the Sith were led by a man who Jumped at the Call to protect the innocent, then (according to one untrustworthy source) "sacrificed himself" to the Dark Side and launched his own invasion as part of a master plan to provoke the Republic into preparing for some of the really evil things out there.
Dexter was about a serial killer for the Police who kill other really bad people and those who get away from their crimes.
Red Son: Superman is a totalitarian dictator who brainwashes any domestic political threat, but values human life enough to never kill anybody and to himself, at least, has humanity's best interests at heart, while Lex Luthor is totally obsessed with bringing Superman down rather than liberating humanity from Superman's yoke but does so by attempting to prove that he is the better leader. In other words, Superman's intentions are good but his means are evil, whereas Luthor's is the other way around.
V for Vendetta: V is a Well-Intentioned Extremist trying to bring down the brutally fascist Norsefire regime and its Lawful Stupid… Well-Intentioned Extremists. V was portrayed as A Lighter Shade of Grey but still an Nominal Hero, and the ending pulled no punches about the fact that while getting rid of Norsefire was a good thing in the long run, the short to medium term consequences were not going to be pretty.
In Hullo Russia, Goodbye England, the pilots who are Britain's frontline nuclear strike force strive to suppress the unfortunate truth that in defending Britain by nuking Russia and killing millions of people, they're proving themselves no better than the despised communists opposite.
avenger09 was right about the orignal AC. The Templars' goals are honorable, the methods they go about attaining them are unacceptable. You have those who has show conviction and faith in their goals, and truly wanted to help. (Most of them.) Al-Mualim genuinely wanted to bring an end to the Crusades.
Rogue made a huge point. Achilles is a problematic Mentor who makes an error in judgment, but who refuses to see his actions as problematic. The other Master Assassins are either too stupid to see the problem or too blinded by loyalty to call him out. He makes no attempt to cool off Shay after the highly traumatic destruction of Lisbon, leading to his defection. The lower-level Assassins have degenerated into criminal gangs whose sole purpose is to extort the populace and kill anyone who tries to root them out. Meanwhile, Shay gets won over by a wealthy Templar who seeks to rebuild parts of the Colonies ruined by war or neglect, and he takes on Christopher Gist, a charming, humorous rogue, as his quartermaster. Haytham, while cold-blooded as ever, never harms anyone who isn't already an acknowledged enemy. Not only don't we see the Templars do anything overtly evil, Shay performs some of the same tasks as Edward.
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Well I'm not saying I don't like moral greyness
And yes, I do admit I have a bit of an anti-Templar bias XD But still, I'm willing to look past that for the sake of storytelling. I just want to make that story fun to explore. Hence why I rarely make any dark broody characters and make them all chipper and classy and fashionable instead XD
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Cain is a templar.
assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/…
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Yes I know XD This is the Templar origin story. He starts out as an Assassin
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Ah yes, Cain the oldest of Adam and Eve's three sons.
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Will you do Seth? He tends to be forgotten.
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I would, but Seth doesn't really have any place in the narrative I'm focusing on given how he was born after the whole Cain and Abel event
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