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Before you read my comment, I'd like you to see what you are thinking when you see this, so your first impression won't be affected by my or other people's thoughts...I had no comment written for this before getting a DD, but someone suggested I should.
Some of you who have chosen to comment are taking this image in scope of pro-life and pro-choice issue. It would definitely be a suiting image for that in my opinion too.
If you're curious, this was found in a medical building of my university where they had done dissections of people who had given consent. It is to see what a fetus looks like in different stages of life. I'm not a medical student and I found this room by accident when I was taking shelter from rain.
I had a lot of thoughts that flashed in my mind but one of the things that lingered while I was taking the shot was this poem, as I've already written in another similar image:
Think how it is to have a conversation with an embryo.
You might say, "The world outside is vast and intricate.
There are wheatfields and mountain passes,
and orchards in bloom.
At night there are millions of galaxies, and in sunlight
the beauty of friends dancing at a wedding."
You ask the embryo why he, or she, stays cooped up
in the dark with eyes closed.
Listen to the answer.
There is no "other world."
I only know what I've experienced.
You must be hallucinating.
-Rumi
Now Mowlana Rumi was a mystic Sufi; he believed in another world after death and and he wrote this as an analogy of those who denied that. But this could mean in more ways than that. It could relate to our lack of experience to any other "world" hidden from us. I believe there could be many types of veils... It could be the world inside another human being, another heart. It could be about belief of God or lack of. I'm an astronomy student, so my thoughts also go to black holes, possibility of parallel universe or higher dimensions, or such.
So really, I think we are all an embryo in a lot of ways.
As for the DD, I'm realizing the one image that I had the least part is chosen from my gallery. My thoughts go to the mother of this little one and the decisions she had to make, the father, all the other family or friends who were involved, the doctor and others who handled and took part in this little body to be there in that room...
Thank you ikai-zixie to have found this image, showing compassion and so much wonderment and suggesting it, and Timothy-Sim for picking it amongst many.
And if you've read so far thank you, I appreciate it...I hope you'll share your thoughts or feelings too...
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this is awesome.......most ones (not all) that come to an university are from, I hate to say cadavers (cause they were people)-who donated bodies to science. Β never seen a fetus though, more likely he/she wasn't alive......and it's sad but that's how we learn, just look at what they did before this......cutting humans open-still alive to see how our bodies worked.....we have come a long way. It still fascinates me though.
thanks for sharing the photo.
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Truly every single human willing and unwillingly plows through life like a bulldozer. Death follows in our wake by the ton. For those that claim that life is precious, care not for the cow that gave it's life for a big mac. Or the grass blades broken under our foot. Does all life matter? Remember the baby dolphin, in Brazil, the beach goers killed in a crazed attempt to get a selfy in front of it? How many microbes are meeting an untimely end which each inhalation? How many bones in layers are scattered underneath the buildings in London? From mammoth skeletons, to Romans, to Saxons, those that died of the black death. All layered one on top of the other. Look around you. Death is everywhere you look. Not liking death doesn't make it something bad. It is apart of life. Like it or not. And death is waiting for you right now. Watching. If you look over your left shadow, you may catch a glimpse of it, a shadowy flicker, hiding from your gaze. Is life precious? Only those who truly live it can answer this question. The rest only know slogans.
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It's so sad to think of how many unborn babies never got to see the sun, their parents, or breathe the air. So many lives have been viciously taken in the name of "women's choice".
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or have down syndrome, or have cancer
yes, suffering children is needed in this world.
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Well, there are many sad things in the world -- it can get overwhelming if we only focus on the negatives. There are children that are born but are faced with horrendous things. Please, let's not talk of which is worse (being born and having to face that or not being born), you or I don't have the right to do that.
As to unborn children not seeing or experiencing things.....I was trying to make the point that we are all like that one way or the other.
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Life is all and life is nothing. This univers is so great in its unknown bounderies and thes life and life counts for so little that the non-life, such as thi child, does not seem to change anything. From our point of view we humans, with our feelings, it is incredibly unfortunate. At least for those of us who have a little heart. Wars and violence we prove enough that some do not. From the point of view of God, it seems that it is not important, then even being all-powerful, it never occurs to save even a baby. And nobody, nor any religion, can not explain why this is so in a world where we are almost nothing. This baby, a small packet lost forever in formalin. But ... maybe ... his soul ...?
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This happens every day. It's depressing.
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dude this comment is four years old. also, the fetus isn't taxidermized; it's pickled.Β
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this picture is both adorable sad and creepy~ ps ur cool
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I'm shocked .. I get so many thoughts but I can not write .. and I can not remove the image from the PC ... not nice to watch I do not like the feeling it gives me .... but I understand that it was important to do these experiments on a medical level. but I do not like, it's empty!
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My mind goes blank when I look at this. It makes me want to cry.
That there is innocence at its purest.
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I wish more people would stop and feel what you feel about innocent lives around us.
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I agree. It is something that it rare in this world and it can be taken away so easily.
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My daughter was stillborn late in my 8th month. This photo was very touching & the comments below brought both sadness & joy in reading through them all.
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Oh dear...I wonder how your experience of it was...
I'm glad it brought joy in some way and I hope it didn't rekindle too much sadness. How people view and feel the experience can be different, and I really hope you've come to some sort of peace and resolution...and if not, I hope you do some day.
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Oh the image was quite striking to me in many ways. But mostly because it is such a tiny magnificent image of life, even in death. And in reading everything you've written here & on the other photo, I see that you seem to have a very delicate & poetic approach to the subject.
My daughter would have been 6 in December. I made peace a long time ago, I am a strong believer that everything does indeed happen for a reason.
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It's been said that the richest place in the world is the cemetery. The place of unfulfilled potential, lost destinies and dreams. That's what I think of when I see these unopened eyes. Who knows what they would have seen, and what they would have accomplished because of what they saw? We will never know.
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I never thought of cemetery as rich.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. (!)
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If he saw the horrible world he would be born into, where people are killed, raped, robbed, cheated and betrayed by both enemies and allies, he wouldn't want to open them.
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Those things all happen but you're overlooking the good.
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What little there is of it.
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If you look through a red glass, the world looks red. Through a blue shade, it looks blue.
Understand how you see more of something in the world is because of your own disposition.
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So? You really want to bring a suffering child into this world??
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The issue was not about bringing a suffering child into the world.Β
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well it's potential suffering.
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Do you think we should avoid driving because we might crash?
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What does that have to do with abortion?
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Look: the original commenter (El-Drago-800) was talking about how if an unborn child knew about the state of the world and was capable of choosing, it wouldn't want to be here. And my replies are towards that.
I don't know what your argument is.......your first comment was "bringing a suffering child into the world". Bringing a suffering child into the world is different than bringing a child into a suffering world.Β
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So you support down syndrome?
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Sorry, but I can't continue an argument that's based on misunderstanding.
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Oh my God,
Poor baby, it died before it could live :c
This made me cry.
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I understand your feeling. But what if had the baby lived, it wouldn't have lead the life to go to heaven, whereas right now it can since it's innocent?
I say that with the presumption that you believe in heaven since you're a muslima.
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But you'll never know what the baby could've grown up to be, it never got a chance.
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Actually the first thought was what a cute kid this baby would have grown up to be if he was alive.
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Yes!
I'm surprised no one before made such a comment.
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aww hehe really, but yeah he woulda been a sweetie, poor little guy..
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I'm pretty sure pro choicers don't realize, that that's what they do to unborn babies.
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Actually I'm well aware. It doesn't change the fact that women deserve the right to decide what happens. Who knows perhaps this woman was in a horribly abusive relationship and didn't want to bring a child into it. Maybe she was a drug addict? Or didn't have the resources support or the mental stability to care for another human being. Perhaps it was still born and she decided to donate the body to science so it could help people. The world isn't black and white. There are so many possibilities and just because I support the right to choose doesn't mean I ENCOURAGE abortion I just show my support if someone is considering it.
Don't be so closed-minded.
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I knew a woman who was in a horrible 10 year cycle of abusive relationships, and has gotten 2 abortions because of them, she still regrets them to this day. Also, I have heard stories, mainly that of Jewels Green(e?) who had a coerced abortion, her pregnancy took her off of drugs. It was only because her boyfriend pressured her into the abortion that she had it.
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Yeah that's TWO cases. Not everyone feels guilt after an abortion. Chemical reactions GUARANTEE negative psychological consequences from oh-so-perfect adoption option pro-life people are so fond of...
That latter situation makes me sick. No woman should EVER be pressured into having an abortion. Just like being pressured into NOT having one. It's a deeply personal choice and no one should try and infringe upon it. Give your support or don't. Also kudos to the woman who was able to rise above her addiction AND the abuse.
It doesn't change the fact that not everyone has the will or compassion for that. And you missed my point. It was explicitly stated in the artist's comment that this was not a piece about abortion per se.
Yet you MADE it about how awful people who are pro-choice are. You neglected to even acknowledge my suggestion that this was a miscarried fetus. Which is a DISTINCT possibility (even the most likely) since it was surgically removed.
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First of all, I don't read every single comment on a deviantART before I do, so that's why I didn't see it. Second of all, it looks like an aborted unborn baby in a jar, and that's where the abortionists put them normally.
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True enough but it still didn't have to immediately be "pro-choice supporters are terrible LOOK what they do to babies I bet they don't even KNOW". I'm paraphrasing but that's how it came off.
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It certainly looks like an aborted baby though, so that's what came to my mind first.
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How? This baby was surgically removed and most aborted fetuses are not. Aborted fetuses go through a severe amount of trauma (well their bodies do the fetus is dead at that point) when it's removed. A fetus removed using typical methods would not be in such good shape.
I'm just saying.
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Actually, there IS a story of a aborted baby via suction who is completely intact.
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