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Problem Solved
It sounds funny because the God debate is often portrayed as such a profound and insoluble riddle. But if you actually do Google it, you’ll find plenty of articles about untestable hypotheses, anecdotal evidence, Ockham’s Razor, and other useful info about how to evaluate claims, as well as info about evolution, cosmology, particle physics, and other relevant subjects. (I’ve even written a few myself.) Sure, you’ll also find websites like Answers in Genesis, but if you read everything that’s available, you’ll understand why it’s not called Correct Answers in Genesis.
So if anybody asks you why it’s irrational to believe in God, you can just tell them to Google it. And if they accuse you of naively oversimplifying a complex issue, just direct them here.
Examples of useful info that can be found by anyone who is genuinely inquisitive:
Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 1)
God is Imaginary
Why Won’t God Heal Amputees
Skyhooks and Cranes
Unfalsifiable claims
Ockham’s Razor
The Best Case For God: Refuted
The Euthyphro Dilemma
Abiogenesis
An article about how to look for intelligent design, with links to lists of embarrassing counterexamples to intelligent design.
A Universe from Nothing
For more religious humor, check out
My Religion
The Bible Says God Doesn’t Exist.
And…
is religiously metaphorical by ~BlueMeadow193 .
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haha nice, your totally getting trolled for this though
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I personally think everybody needs to calm down. We all have our opinions and a right to state them, but you don't need to hate on somebody for saying their opinion. That is one of the most immature thing you people could do, just leave RushAndRuleIt alone, and allow him to continue to state his opinions.
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Well said! Everybody should just settle to the fact that there's no evidence stating God doesn't exist AND no evidence stating he does exist.
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Thank you. I don't necessarily believe in God, but I have my own personal reasons, other than just the fact that, "There's no evidence he exists," And I've never once hated on a Christian, because doing that would make it seem as if I was a young child who can't state her own opinions without being rude to somebody else. I believe everybody has a right to their own religion, and there is no wrong religious beliefs.
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But what if my branch of Christianity believes that God used science to create everything? Like he was the very first scientist in a sense?
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Still not evidence that he exists 
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When did I say it was evidence?
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I give you an A+ for offending people.
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The joke is actually that Google is the biggest response you will get from Atheists, it's a joke towards them lol use your "intelligent animal" brain. I'm an Ex Atheist turned Christian, and let me tell ya, the website called godandscience.org is right, answers in genesis is just answering questions about genesis doofus. Personal proof is the most Earth shaking proof out there. BTW Evolution is easily debunked. Single cell organisms only replicate, and one species cannot create multiple species, that's like saying 1+1=3 it cannot happen. A man and a woman cannot create a new life form, they can only create what is in the limits of THEIR DNA structure (meaning tall or short, different colors of hair, sometimes diseases are passed down, different colors of eyes, and so on, birth defects are just defective accidents) so that leaves it to a man or woman and an animal... which is impossible because our DNA cannot link up to another species DNA, only human DNA... this is why you never see a cat-dog or a human sheep or human dog. There is an article where a sheep gave birth to a sheep with a human head on it... but it was dead because it cannot survive, it rejected the human DNA before it was born. Putting human hormones in an animal is a different thing that is not natural, it's done by man. Evolution is crap for another reason, humans haven't changed in thousands of years. I finally had my personal proof of God and left that crap Atheism belief system and I feel so much happier. God made man from the ground, there is actually particles of the ground found in our bodies, and nutrients from the ground is something we need... hmmm... God made woman from the rib he took from man... they have one extra rib and we have one less.... just a little piece of scientific proof of Creation.
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Guy, that's so mad XD
You can't just say evolution is crap while you defend that we were just created from THE GROUND by a superior being.
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Not that this will sway you at all, but:
1. Both men and women have 24 ribs ordinarily.
2. Evolution is a change in the allele frequency of a given population over time, not one member of one species birthing a member of an entirely different species; a non-human ape didn't just birth a human one day. Nice straw-man argument there, though.
3. The limits of DNA change over time with natural selection and mutation, so your point vis a vis genetic limitation is moot.
4. A series of small changes build up over millions of years. Among isolated populations, these total changes lead to the inability to mate between these populations, i.e., speciation has occurred.
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I'm not going to TL;DR you or reply to everything you say because I'm tired.
I'm just gonna say that humans HAVE changed - [link] the skull, for example. Also, humans as a whole have grown from about four feet tall to the size we are now. c:
Also, as Jeremoto said, the extra rib is a birth defect.
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That extra rib thing? It's called a cervical rib, a congenital birth defect present in about 1 in every 500 people, both males and females. In even rarer cases, an individual may have two extra ribs. It is not a universal trait distinguishing females from males. How does this support your claim as a "scientific proof of creation"?
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I actually did a thorough debunking of that exact website (godandscience.org). I linked it in the description, and here it is again: The Best Case For God: Refuted Honestly, the only people who would be convinced by websites like GAS are those who want to be convinced. BTW, Answers in Genesis does include (erroneous) arguments in favor of Christianity, and not just answer questions about the bible. If you bothered to read more than the URL, you would know that.
It's obvious from your rant that you know nothing of genetic variation and natural selection and you probably don't want to know. In case you are interested, this is the sort of thing you can Google, so you can at least understand the other side's case before attempting to refute it.
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Umh, I'm a little scared of you, but I still feel like I have to point out that "the new life(form?)" can be created from man/woman by 1) genetic mutations, that is, defects which happen to be beneficial (far between) or 2) bacteria pushing its own DNA into the human DNA string (since this ensures its survival more easily than by killing the host). These bacteria can also have picked up parts of DNA from others species. It's really quite fascinating.
I have never heard of a half-sheep half-human. I don't think we're compatible :S Whoever wrote that article must have been referring to someone sowing the head of a human to a sheep. What a peculiar fetish. And slightly disturbing -.-
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Okay I totally didn't just read 10 pages of comments... Oofda.
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I just googled a theory that dentists install tracking devices in your teeth, every time they fill in a cavity; and guess what... it was 100% true!
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They know when you are sleeping, they know when you're awake~ ~ !!! O.o
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Yesss, we are all actually envoys of the devil, out to taint your souls by advising you to *gasp!* be good people of your own free will in stead of doing it from fear of punishment in that afterlife ... because your brainless soul totally cares whether it's hot or cold at the places it hang out.
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Actually, people who choose to believe in God are exhibiting their own free will. If they choose to believe and follow a book as a guide, then that's their choice. If you choose not to then its your choice. Freewill. Everyone has the choice to worship/not worship a higher being but to ridicule the other for doing/not doing so is stupid. I also love how atheists of your nature like to think that we equate you to satan just because you don't believe in God....here's a little tidbit..Satan believes God exists so.....
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What about the fact that if you step off. You'll burn eternally in hell.
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What about it? All that says is that you must repent for your sins (bad actions) or you wont go to heaven. What harm is that doing anyone? It's basically telling you that if you do wrong by your fellow man, you must repent for it sincerely, and try to keep from doing that sin again or you'll be denied entry. No more no less. Lol I don't see how a bible telling people to do good works is hindering anybody? Besides the a-holes that use the bible to keep others from living life, it does no harm. :/ If you don't wanna follow its teachings then don't, but the same way atheists complain about religious people shoving God down their throats is the same way we can complain that non believers like to try tearing our beliefs from us. If a person needs a threat like going to hell in order to do right in their life, what business is it of yours? None at all, just like its not our business if you choose not to believe or follow religious teachings.
Like I said before. How about we all just wait until we die and see who was right. Everyone live how you want for now and then when that time comes, we'll see who was right and who wasn't.
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That would be fine if that was the only thing. But a rapist can go to heaven for praying and a good person who doesn't believe in Yahweh will go to hell.
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I know, it sucks that killing or raping someone is considered on the same sin level as lying, but, saying God doesn't exist is blasphemy and considered the worst of sins one can commit or the eternal, unforgivable sin. You're damned the moment you believe he isn't there, even if you do good things. To commit crimes against man is one thing but by being blasphemous, you're insulting God and therefore committing a crime against Him directly. :/ It's a bad wrap.
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Well I'm not an Atheist. And this doesn't to just Atheists, it applies to anyone who isn't a believer in Yahweh. I mean someone can believe in Shiva and can say the same thing about you. I mean saying someone who doesn't exist doesn't make a bad thing. I mean I personally think Yahweh is a ego maniac who has massive blood lust. But it's not the same saying that as to simply saying he doesn't exist. I mean we know Hitler was real but it whether you believe that or not doesn't tell you about him. It's different from, "I think Hitler was horrible." Yeah I bet you're thinking that I'm going to hell but it doesn't matter to me since I never believed in hell even when I was Christian since hell was derived from a pagan myth added by the Catholic church.
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Yes saying someone doesn't exist is not a bad thing but He isn't just "someone" to us Christians. He is a divine creature, a being that transcends earthly measures, and in our religion, denying his existence is wrong. I can see why you would think that he's an ego maniac with blood-lust because according to the world, you belong to you and no one else. To hear that a higher entity has created you in order to worship Him and only Him sounds very ego-maniacal, but it kind of isn't. If God were to create us to worship Him and FORCED us to do so then that's one thing, but for the fact that we have been given free will to decide whether or not we want to worship Him says otherwise. You can worship who you want, you can follow who you want, you can believe what you want, God will never interfere with His gift of free will, but all He will have you know, is that your actions always come with a price that you will surely pay for later be it in life or after death.
The blood lust part only seems valid as far as the old testament is concerned since He was a lot more harsh then, but we must remember that what Christians SHOULD be following is the new testament that debuts a merciful forgiving God who doesn't ask for much besides a little thanks once in a while, and for you to do right by your fellow man. I don't think you're going to anywhere because despite this nifty little debate we've had, I don't know you from a pillar of salt (lol) so I can't determine where you fully stand on the subject of God as He pertains to Christianity, but,what I will say is this: No matter where you stand, I will not judge you. It is not my place to judge you, and what your fate is in life does not help or hinder my own fate. In my religion I am taught that the only person allowed to judge another is he that is perfect and as far as I know, that person does not exist here on earth. All I can do is wish you well and go about my way. When the end comes, all questions will be answered, all truths revealed. That is what I believe.
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That's actually very well said and the first time I have an adult conversation with a religious person, and someone who isn't a complete denier. I will say this. The idea that Yahweh gives you free will is fallacy since he sends you to burn for eternity if you don't worship him. But forget that part. What troubles me is that I'm told that he interferes and has plan for us and that he knows our fate. So we're born with him knowing that we're going to hell. Not that he's actually going to send us to hell since that part was of pagan origin. But I question the fact that Yahweh gives you free will. Now personally I believe in God but it doesn't mean I'm going to heaven or anything. That's what I talked about in the previous comment because just believing doesn't mean shit. I mean another example is that demons and satan believe in god but it doesn't mean they're going to heaven. As a Deist or ApaDeist as I might be called. Is that I don't think God really gives a shit about anything. Or maybe he just doesn't care about being worshipped. I think it's maybe like him thinking, "I'm just glad I did my part." And doesn't like this praising. Like he doesn't need his creations to bow down to him because he doesn't feel like he needs it.
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You had to use google to figure that out? Most people only need a primary school education to realise haha
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lmao you're going to get such razz for this, but bravo!
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you know im just gonna chill as a ghost here i don't really kow if i should favorite ths
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Where is the evidence??? You know what, a lot of web sites and especially Google can say this and that, but where is the proof? Huh? If there was no god, then how did we get here? If there was no god, then how does the universe exist? If there was no god, then how can people possibly believe that God still exists 2000 years after the advent of Christ? Every thing in the universe and all the parts of those things, including those of earth, have a purpose, so if God doesn't exist, then how do we have something called intelligent design? Have you even read the Bible - which was written over the span of 4000 years? Have you even checked that so called "evidence" against the Bible?
Let me ask you this, so you don't believe in God, what if you die today and you find out that God actually does exist, what are you going to do then?? Are you going to continue to deny His existence even though He's right in front of you? Or are you going to finally see that He does exist?
An answer is greatly appreciated.
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To say there is no evidence means you haven't looked with the intention to find it.
Many fields of sience just makes believing HARD for people up to date on what sience tells us, the more up to date on sience, the less likely you are to belief the god claims, there are ofcourse Christian scientists etc but they are VERY few of these. Sience in case you don't know, revolves around evidence, if something isn't proven, or has false evidence, it will not survive the reviewing of sientist, it will, in theory eventually be seen as incorrect and be corrected.
The amount of fields in sience that are in direct conflict with young earth creationsm is staggering, if you want to disprove all of those, and you succeed, you will become the most famous sientist of all time, trust me.
Why does the universe exist, why does it need a reason, why is "we don't know" not an acceptable answer?
How can people still believe in god? People like magic, they like stories, I do too., there's many cultures who have myths that survived for so long, dragons,gods and monsters alike.
How did everything get here? You mean the life on this planet? Whe actually know it's possible that life can come from not living materials, that doesn't mean that's how it happened here, but it probably did, and after that evolution took over, and once again, even if we didn't know, what's wrong with saying "we don't know".
Sometimes "we don't know" is the answer, inventing answers doesn't get you anywhere.
If I'd die today and I find out god is real, I would obviously have to admit he exists, what kind of a question is that, I wouldn't have to change my character, I'm a decent human being, there being a god or not makes no diffrence to me apart from having to belief the bible.
I would have a lot of questions, and hopefully he'd answer a few before he sends my behind to hell for not believing his book, But yes, I would have to believe in his excistance, would I get on my knees and pray? No,not if he would send me to eternal torture over something so silly as believing a book, and you know what?
I would be more moral thene that god, I wouldn't send people to hell for something like that, infact NOTHING a human being could acomplish in an entire lifetime, would be worthy of eternal torture.
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I'm not saying there isn't any evidence, what I am saying is WHERE IS IT? Since when did God send people to hell? God desires that no-one should perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16) Now, where is it? I will give you my evidence if you show me yours.
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Well his actions and his desires don't really match do they.
He has the power to not send those people to hell,he does it anyway.
And quoting the bible is as much evidence for a non believer as quoting any random storybook.
If you want me to go into detail about the sience, I will.
These things are proven, they are sientific facts, this is not an opinion, these have been tested and found to be very solid if the face of reviewing and testing.
Evolution is a fact, it's been proven time and time again, we base our medicines etc around it. Animals change, and can become totally diffrent species, given enough time,combining that with the finding that life can come from non life, means that a creator isn't needed.
Dna research and so on prove our common ancestory with other primates,these are cold stone facts, this is in direct conflict with the bible, if we are decendents from other primates, thene obviously no god "created humans in his image".
Geology proves the earth is far more older thene the bible claims, 6000 years is an absurd number. You can claim that god did that on purpose or whatever, but..c'mon now.
These are just the few that I'm interested in, there's probably some others.
If you look at the sientific journals and findings, the god claims just don't match, one of eighter is wrong.
You can say all these siencists are full of it,and the bible is right, but thene you'd be silly, since you use the results of sience every day.
It would be silly to go "evolution is a lie" and thene go to the doctor for medicine based on evolutional theory.
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Maybe we should both do some more research, I encourage you to read the Bible some more... Good luck.
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Where's the evidence that a god DOES exist?
The proof that he doesn't is everywhere; science is a very obvious, proven method with years upon years of evidence.
Against that, it's hard to believe that a man just appeared one day and created the whole universe all by himself. That's like something out of Harry Potter.
And as well as that, I HAVE read the bible. People believe in it because it's something to direct them and to put hope in, which I respect.
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The proof that He does exist is in all places and things. Science does not disprove God's existence but points to him. King Solomon was a scientist as well.
Job also stated what the earth floated on:
Job 26:7 - He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Here are some links: [link] [link] [link] [link] [link] [link]
Now, when I say, God created the universe and all the objects that dwell in it and the parts that are placed in these objects thereof; to me it means that God created the heavens thereof, the stars thereof, the planets and the earth thereof, the asteroids and comets thereof, and layers(foundations, insides) of said objects thereof, and the plants thereof, and the animals thereof, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth thereof, and man that has dominion of the the plants, animals and earth and every creeping thing that creepeth thereof, and the physics of the universe thereof, and the measures and the balances that we have the metric system and U.S. standard for thereof, and all other things that are studied by scientists thereof. What does it mean to you?
You may want to look at the Bible more closely...
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First ; if god appears before me and slaps me silly while yelling "How do you like me now!!" then I'd probably have to assume there is some truth to it ^u^
secondly: Okay, I'll buy it, the universe weren't created by the big bang but were in fact created by god. In this case...
How did he do it? and no, I don't care how LONG it took him, I want to know how he did it, and wherethehellwasheiftherewasnothingbeforethecreationoftheuniverse
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Before the universe was, He was. I will now dig up some questions that God personally asked Job. Here they are: Then the LORD answered him out of the whirlwind and said, Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, and brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, and said, Hitherto shalt thou com, but no further: and here shalt thy proud waves be stayed? Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken. Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or has thou walked in the search of the depth? Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors to the shadow of death? Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all. Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for the darkness, where is the place thereof, that thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof? Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great? Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war? Job 38:1-23 O.k. So you want to know how He created the universe huh? Here are some verses from the book of Genesis - keep in mind that Genesis is a Greek word meaning "origin," "source," "generation," or "beginning." Now here are the verses: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And evening and the morning were the first day." -Genesis 1:1-5 In a sense, here is how God did it; in the verses above is said "And God said, Let there be this: and there was this." That indicates that God created the universe by speaking. Now in Genesis 1:26 something of interest happens: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. -Genesis 1:26-27 In Genesis 2:7 we see how God created man: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." So, does this answer thy question?
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True love between trolls. It's great to you two sharing a matespritship ^^
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What on earth are you talking about?
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I don't know why people say you're going to Hell. If God exists, you'll see him when you die. If he doesn't, I'd have fun being a ghost B3
And I for one, explained religion and science to coexists on several levels, so I believe in God, and that he may have created science.
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I just find the whole debate irrelevant. If you're good simply because you THINK someone will punish you otherwise, then god, by the christians own logic, should punish you for being so selfcentered 
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... wow. I've never thought of it THAT way. The whole, men who wrote it.. part. :l That's certainly a unique opinion XD
Frankly, I of course don't want to go to Hell, but I won't know until I die, so like you said, I rather not dwell on it. :3
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