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Description The parnka was domesticated between 5,000 and 4,000 years ago, from wild ratites on the southern plains of Gondwana. Though not as strong or as intelligent at horses, parnkas can be lead through a exploitation of their imprinting and flocking instinct. In the Gondwanan middle ages (0-500 AD) young parnkas were imprinted on mother figures, wearing patterned clothing. The pattern on this clothing was then hung from a pole, and the "leading flag" used to direct the parnka where the rider wished to go. Larger pack parnkas were also controlled by parnka dogs, bred to herd the parnkas in response to whistled commands. These skills have largely fallen out of use by present day, but can still be witnessed in historical re-enactment villages.
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A bit of nonsense from Gondwana. Nonsense because the story takes place a century at least before people stopped riding animals. But anyway.
These ideas come mostly from
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For more Gondwana stuff, see: [link]
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Done while listening to: Jennifer Morgue
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indigomagpie [2011-11-29 13:41:09 +0000 UTC]

Are these superior to horses in some way that would allow them to defeat horse cavalry?

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bensen-daniel In reply to indigomagpie [2011-11-29 15:14:57 +0000 UTC]

No, but the Gondwanans at the time of the invasion has superior technology, political, and economic systems.

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thomastapir [2011-05-20 18:36:38 +0000 UTC]

This is really clever, I love the way it's designed to accommodate both sitting and standing!

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bensen-daniel In reply to thomastapir [2011-05-21 12:03:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. If I ever get around to it, I'll show how the system evolved into seating in modern Gondwanan air cars.

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AmnioticOef [2011-05-17 02:51:47 +0000 UTC]

It's nice of you to credit me, but I seem to remember you coming up with most of these ideas, not me.

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bensen-daniel In reply to AmnioticOef [2011-05-17 04:30:14 +0000 UTC]

Nope. I have records

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AmnioticOef In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-05-17 05:45:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm not complaining .

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PonchoFirewalker01 [2011-01-26 20:13:19 +0000 UTC]

I've always wondered what would happen if the Maori actually domesticated moas.

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bensen-daniel In reply to PonchoFirewalker01 [2011-01-26 20:49:00 +0000 UTC]

Well there ya go. In this timeline, the Maori play a part in the Big Civilzation, but they're late-comers to the party. The people who domesticated these things (and took over the world 3 milenia later) are something like Australian aborigines.

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PonchoFirewalker01 In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-26 22:04:09 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see. I'm a bit of a animal nut and animal behaviorist myself and I have a question: How could nomads domesticate those big birds?

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bensen-daniel In reply to PonchoFirewalker01 [2011-01-27 06:40:42 +0000 UTC]

The same way nomads domesticated horses in the northern hemisphere. They probably hunted them first for food, then shifted over to raising flocks, then using the birds to carry loads, then hitching chariots to them, then riding them.

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PonchoFirewalker01 In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-27 13:22:13 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see.

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Boverisuchus [2011-01-26 11:18:58 +0000 UTC]

I have always fantasized about riding a large bird, but I'm 108 kilos

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bensen-daniel In reply to Boverisuchus [2011-01-26 20:47:37 +0000 UTC]

I think I would probably squish a bird, too.
However, the people who rode these tend to be large and heavily built (like Samoans). In the present day, with cars and personal float-chairs, most of them are dang fat.

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Charanty In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-05-05 20:12:25 +0000 UTC]

Maybe they could breed them to be bigger so that they were capable to care bigger rider? Like people in our world did with horses.

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bensen-daniel In reply to Charanty [2011-05-08 14:57:06 +0000 UTC]

Certainly. But in my story, mechanized transportation has been around for about 150 years. Nobody really rides moas any more except as an expensive hobby.

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Charanty In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-05-08 18:12:26 +0000 UTC]

I see.

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Boverisuchus In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-27 01:23:34 +0000 UTC]

I see, some Maori do get very plump.

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bensen-daniel In reply to Boverisuchus [2011-01-27 06:39:03 +0000 UTC]

Well there ya go

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Boverisuchus In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-27 06:55:53 +0000 UTC]

yes.

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whalewithlegs [2011-01-13 13:39:42 +0000 UTC]

Vulture head! Knowing nothing about how Moa were built, this still seems like a pretty cool idea ... there could possibly be a knee-steering or elbow-steering saddle, to facilitate weapons firing?

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bensen-daniel In reply to whalewithlegs [2011-01-13 13:57:21 +0000 UTC]

It's basically a heavily built emu with a moa's head.
Anyway, I don't think knee-steering would work, since as far as I can tell, you sit on the hips, with your thighs rest against the birds, with the front of the bird's knees touching the backs of yours. So when the bird has to run, you have to get your knees, out of the way, hence the strap arrangement in the bottom picture. Maybe another model could project your knees out along the bird's tail, so your upper body folds down along the bird's back, placing your elbows at the bace of the neck, where they can steer, as you fire your weapon.

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whalewithlegs In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-14 12:28:51 +0000 UTC]

That's a good idea!

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bensen-daniel In reply to whalewithlegs [2011-01-14 15:26:47 +0000 UTC]

Actually, once I sketched it, it didn't work. The moa has to bend forward as it runs, and adding the weight of a person's torso and outstretched arms would probably unbalance it (unless the rider wore weighted boots). Another fun way to shoot people from moa-back would be to make the bird sprint, then lean backwards until you are lying flat, and then shoot at people behind you.

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malevouvenator [2011-01-12 23:53:52 +0000 UTC]

Interesting mode to domesticate a large bird

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bensen-daniel In reply to malevouvenator [2011-01-13 06:24:54 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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malevouvenator In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-13 18:53:09 +0000 UTC]

welcome

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Cephlaken [2011-01-12 23:40:04 +0000 UTC]

Interesting saddle design. The REAL Dino-riders!!!!!!!

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bensen-daniel In reply to Cephlaken [2011-01-13 06:25:39 +0000 UTC]

It's based on the way (it seems ) people really ride ostriches. [link]

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Cephlaken In reply to bensen-daniel [2011-01-13 08:51:02 +0000 UTC]

They had that sort of thing in that movie Prince of Persia....
Anyway, nice sketch!

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