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Berserker79 In reply to hellenys [2018-05-20 09:39:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, that's great to hear from someone who is as skilled as you with rendering in Cycles! This is one of the pictures in my gallery I'm most happy with: I can see some faults here and there, due to some small improvements in my ability with Cycles, but in the end I still  think that both the rendering and the post-processing (to add some effects like the glow you mentioned) have provided a satisfying result here.

BTW, noticed your name change: I got used to  the old one, but sometimes it's refreshing to switch to a new name!

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hellenys In reply to Berserker79 [2018-05-28 14:26:56 +0000 UTC]

You flatter me :'D 
Oh yes Now that I think about it, I like how you modded the meshes, too!

And yep, it's not only refreshing but it proved to be essential because of identity matters: some people got confused as I used to have different nicknames (elyhumanoid, Ellen Pendragon) on different websites and I'm still waiting for FB to change the name of my page (I guess I'll have to wait months for that). I hope I didn't make things worst LOL

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Berserker79 In reply to Mordinette [2017-12-31 11:18:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, this is probably my favorite work from this year and I'm happy to read you like it too! I totally loved giving them the badass look and merging the Dragon Age setting with that from the movie that inspired this picture. :=

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Berserker79 In reply to 3nchantment [2017-04-14 14:05:31 +0000 UTC]

Well, extracting is relatively easy, you can find all the info you need in an excellent tutorial in Padme4000's gallery. Converting the extracted models for use in XNA requires a bit more work and practice as well as some knowledge of Blender. Padme4000's tutorial covers all the process anyway, so you should be able to find everything you need  there.

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3nchantment In reply to Berserker79 [2017-04-14 15:26:16 +0000 UTC]

Okay, wow. Thanks very much!

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Berserker79 In reply to Grummel83 [2017-03-15 20:55:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, I'm happy with how this turned out!

That's a good question! What did Carver get plenty of as a kid? Lyrium maybe? I really need to think about something suitable instead of cookies/sweets! As for Bethany's staff, that's one of my favorite staff designs in Dragon Age. In DA2 it is called "Malcolm's Honor" and used to belong to Hawke's father: I like to think that he left that for Bethany to inherit once she grew up.

Careful not to lose your own Hansel & Gretel blu-ray! The one good thing about this movie being a bit underrated is that I could get the blu-ray at the same price of the dvd disc.

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Grummel83 In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-16 20:43:45 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

Maybe he fall as a child into a pot full of Lyrium and has today some kind of allergy against it.
Didn't remember that it was in the game. Okay to be honest since I was disappointed from DA2 I never gave it a second chance/playthrough.
Sounds like a nice idea.

Taking care of your things is always a good idea. I like the movie.
Nowadays I rarely buy dvds. The price difference is mostly nothing to speak of.

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Berserker79 In reply to Grummel83 [2017-03-22 20:15:23 +0000 UTC]

You know, that's a nice idea for this Dragon Age/Hansel & Gretel crossover: as a kid Carver was exposed to lyrium and developed an allergy to it. Think I'm going to make it the canon for this concept.

Regarding the staff, to be honest it's part of a DLC, so it's entirely possible you did not find it unless you had the relevant DLC. Since I understand you did not like much the game, understandably you likely did not invest further money into buying the DLCs. Personally, I liked DA2 in spite of its flaws: it was mostly the characters, their interaction with Hawke and their dialogue which contributed to my enjoyment of the game. Guess this is one more of those issues where it's up to personal taste.

And yes, the price of dvds is pretty close to that of the blu-ray discs today. Until recently, I've been sticking to dvds for the simple reason I did not a BD player. However, my old dvd player stopped working a few months ago, so I'm shifting to buying blu-ray discs now given that, as you say, the price different is real small.

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Grummel83 In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-25 23:04:19 +0000 UTC]

Glad I could help.

That could be it. I've only the DLC with Sebastian that came a long with the edition I bought.
Whatever, If you like the games, than it's good. Maybe the one or other DLC enriched the game, but this ship has sailed!

There are a lot of genres where I don't care if the blu ray looks better or not, but due to the price it makes no sense to think about.
So it's understandable that you still saw no reason to buy a player.

At least blu rays have a small advantage. They need less space in the shelf.

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Berserker79 In reply to SangoSweetz [2017-03-09 22:11:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I'm glad you like this and I completely share your wish that both twins could be saved: that would have allowed some interesting twists in various points of the plot.

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SangoSweetz In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-09 22:15:10 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely. It was interesting (as far as I remember) you couldn't be a Mage and have Bethany live as well. Only one Mage in the family or something. I personally chose carver and made him a warden in game. But my fanfic he is a Templar. You would assume the name of either twin would have been more thrown around in inquisition too. Cullen Alistair stroud or loghain would have know them at least.

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Berserker79 In reply to SangoSweetz [2017-03-11 23:13:04 +0000 UTC]

You remember correctly, if you play a mage Hawke only Carver makes it to Kirkwall in one piece. While I like both twins, I've saved Bethany in 99% of my games and usually made her go to the Circle, since she seems happier there than with the Wardens (still, Bethany and Carver as Wardens look cool! ). Sadly, the companions from DA2 were almost forgotten in Inquisition. With the exception of some War Table missions who mention them and a bit of dialogue with Varric and Hawke, there is not much mention of either twin as well as the rest of the DA2 gang.

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Berserker79 In reply to olivegbg [2017-03-09 22:15:48 +0000 UTC]

I was aiming for a self-confident look for both characters, so I'm happy to read you think their looks seem to convey this idea somehow!

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Berserker79 In reply to RainbowRenders [2017-03-06 18:43:18 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for devoting some of your time to provide your feedback! I know I’ve asked for comments, but I hope that did not somehow feel you obligated to comment. If so my apologies. In any event, I really appreciate your comment here, which is in essence an actual critique.

You raised two very good points. First, I’d like to explain why there is no border. Actually, I had one originally, but when I looked at the final result I felt something similar to what you experienced with your Calsephine work, i.e. that a simpler scene would work better with the frame. Also, since this is supposed to be a remake of a movie poster, I realized that movie posters don’t come with a frame usually.

The second point is the placement of the Mage Killer title. I did not think about placing the title where you suggest, but that could work nicely now  that you mention it. To be honest leaving all that space above Carver bothered me a little: I was afraid of making the scene too crowded if all areas of the background were covered by elements placed in the “foreground” and then I ended crowding that right bottom corner. I think that, once more, it was my desire to stick to the looks of the movie poster I used as a reference which stuck in my head the idea of placing the Mage Killer title there. Well, since I still have all the work files I could give a try at making an alternative version with a new title placement.

As for the color of the Mage Killer title, that’s also a reflection of the reference movie poster. I thought that, because the picture mostly uses a blue color palette, using a highly contrasting color such as red for the title was a good idea to give emphasis to the title. Admittedly, using white for the title could have worked too… Anyway, about Carver’s scarf: would you suggest switching to a different color? I used green to distinguish his scarf from that of his sister, but maybe that wasn’t the best choice.

And I’m glad you noticed details such as the glow effect on Bethany’s staff (as always you have a very keen eye! ) and that the this reminds you one Bioware’s promo pieces for DAI. I was trying to merge the looks of the reference movie poster with the look and feel of the Dragon Age universe, and your comment suggests I’ve gone in the right direction.

Finally, with regard to the models, I don’t think models of those inquisitors’ clothes are publicly available. I extracted them from scratch at my end for this project, because I needed them with their original non-renamed bones to ensure a smooth meshmodding, but as far as I know no one have released these models. As you noticed, I used for both characters their original DA2 face and then combined the heads with the DAI body models (Carver uses solely the inquisitor’s clothes, while for Bethany I also used a part of Isabela’s DAI body/clothes.

I’ll do some more experimenting in Blender, provided I have enough time. I had hopes to be able to including a fireball in Bethany’s left hand entirely generated in Blender, but getting the effect correctly began to take too much time and I decided to leave that out in the end.

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RainbowRenders In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-06 23:28:55 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome, my friend. I'm sorry if it wasn't as enthusiastic as usual, but I'm struggling with the aftermath of a homophobic attack from a "friend" irl and general (for months untreated) depression.

I'm glad you could work with the points I brought up/found them helpful. As for the color of Carver's scarf: It was easier to just modify the image instead of trying to explain.
I also made a suggestion for a composition tweak (and the reason behind it in form of a grid that shows the point(s) of interest/attention) if you're interested in that:
     

About the border: I'm glad you didn't discard the idea entirely and only left it out because of the nature of the image. I can imagine that it probably hampered the concept of the movie cover.

As for the color of the title: I see how red is tempting as it's associated with blood, but your alternative choice, white, is associated with coldness and that goes well with the killer theme, too.

Regarding the fire you wanted to insert, it's a great goal to work towards to. As long as you haven't figured it out, you can always try a combination of brushing and painting.
Maybe those resources/tutorials help in the process:
 

And I'm impressed that you managed to extract the parts of the inquisitor's robe!
I'm a bit jelly because my male elf was a mage with a gorgeous robe and I have literally every possible outfit for him except that.
I really like the inquisitor's armors. It's also hugely impressive that you modded Bethany so heavily that you even merged another outfit into it.
I don't wanna know how long that took!

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Berserker79 In reply to RainbowRenders [2017-03-07 21:35:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, this is extremely helpful! Now I'm feeling quite guilty because it looks like you spent a good deal of your spare time to help me providing a visual reference to improve this picture, sorry! Once I complete my next project I'll take some time to do some tests at my own end and maybe release a new version of this picture. In particular, I like your suggested composition tweak: that both solves the "problem" of the negative space above Carver and brings the characters' faces close to those points of the grid where viewers are more likely to focus. Incidentally, when I set up the scene in XPS I had a grid like that in the background to help camera placement. Unfortunately, once I imported the scene in blender the carefully place XPS camera setup was lost and thereafter I forgot about the grid when setting up a new camera in blender... A blue scarf for Carver seems to work, but I'm not entirely sure about Bethany's clothes being amaranth: it's not as bright as the shade of red I used for the title, but I'm still wondering whether that is also a color which does not entirely fit the color scheme of the picture..: confused: Also, thanks for the links to the fire tutorials/resources: they can come in handy until I can learn how to add fire directly in blender.

As for the inquisitors robes, there is a problem with the cloth part of several variants which the DAI Tools are unable to extract. I was lucky that the cloth mesh for Carver's outfit and the one I used for my Inquisitor are the only cloth parts which can be extracted. Anyway, if you have a reference picture or screenshot of your elven mage inquisitor that you can share, I can take a look and see whether his outfit is extractable.

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Berserker79 In reply to raubkruemel [2017-03-05 16:37:50 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your comment: I'm real happy to hear that  from someone who loves the Hawke twins as much as you! Also, thanks for adding this to your favorites!

BTW, I've seen you are quite busy with the "Family Matters" project, but someday I hope to see some more of your own Bethany and/or Carver works! In the meantime, keep up  the good with with "Family Matters", I'm sure there is a load of fans of that ship eagerly waiting for the project to be finished.

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raubkruemel In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-19 10:37:05 +0000 UTC]

Of course I had to add it, cause it's awesome x3
And thanks yeah all my energy is put into this project at the moment, which is exhausting but it's fun nevertheless. Hopefully there are still some fans around when it's finished xD
But those two will always have a place in my heart and there are still ideas sketched in my book that just wait to be put into action.

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Berserker79 In reply to ShaunsArtHouse [2017-03-05 16:48:11 +0000 UTC]

I've been debating with myself whether this should have been my entry for the contest, lol! Actually, I'm happy with the original Doom submission because it's been too long since I wanted to something Doom-related, but I'm glad this one was finished only after the deadline for submissions expired and that the debate in my head is purely "academical". Also, great to hear Bethany looks boss here! I was aiming for that kind of looks for both of them, in an attempt to stick to the looks of the characters in the movie poster. I'm thrilled to hear I managed to convey that look!

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ShaunsArtHouse In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-05 23:13:32 +0000 UTC]

Carver doesn't look AS boss as Bethany just because I think he's kind of funny looking with that massive jaw. Bethany though...   

I think your Doom pic is marginally better than this one even though they're both amazing so I think you made the right choice in the end

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Berserker79 In reply to Jay-Kennedy [2017-03-04 23:01:52 +0000 UTC]

So cool to hear you enjoyed watching the movie! I was afraid it was just me, so it's actually a relief to hear more people had fun with it! And of course thank you for stopping by to comment and fav this picture. I'm kind of wondering whether I should have submitted this one for the contest: from a certain point of view I'm happier about this one than the Doom cover art picture, but the Doom piece was what I had in mind for the contest after all... Oh, about Bethany's outfit here: in essence it's one of the mage inquisitor outfits with thee addition of part of Isabela's outfit plus the scarf from Bethany's DA2 model. I had to cut off somewhat... "roughly" some parts of Isabela's outfit in order to make it fit, so the resulting model isn't perfect, but I'm real happy with the final result!

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Jay-Kennedy In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-05 19:18:50 +0000 UTC]

hahaha I mean it has Gemma how can we not enjoy that?!? But it was enjoyable yes! ^^
Ah the doubts will always hit us, won't they? Both fit the theme and are super awesome so yeah, it's a question of what you had in mind at first!

And that's awesome!! I didn't recognize it was Isa's! Sometimes I put different models together too to make one outfit so I kind feel you! It is hard! haha but indeed you should be happy bc you did a superb job!

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Berserker79 In reply to Jay-Kennedy [2017-03-07 21:15:06 +0000 UTC]

Lol, I'll admit having a crush on Gemma Arterton since her apperance in Clash of the Titans... Guess that may have contributed to my enjoyment of Hansel & Gretel too!

All in all, I'm still happy I've submitted the Doom piece, regardless that it was not successful in the contest: like you said, it's a question of what I had in mind first. Besides, I did not finish this other work before the deadline for the contest expired, so in any case it was a purely hypothetical choice.

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Jay-Kennedy In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-08 18:37:52 +0000 UTC]

hahaha don't we all?!

*nod nod* yeah at least it pushed us to do some work and improve, right?!  

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Berserker79 In reply to sheplymancer007 [2017-03-04 22:50:29 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for your comment! Glad to hear you think I managed to create a successful blend between the two worlds!

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Berserker79 In reply to AlistairAndAnders [2017-03-04 22:54:53 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I can't take all the credits for the poses, since I worked on the basis of the poses seen in the "Hansel & Gretel Witch Hunters" movie poster, but I'm happy you like them because that means I managed to reproduce the poses of the poster with enough accuracy. And I love that staff too: in my headcanon Hawke's father leaves it for Bethany to inherit when she is grown up, so I often depict her with this staff. BTW, thank you for adding this work to your favorites!

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AlistairAndAnders In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-10 19:28:44 +0000 UTC]

But making poses after a pic can be very hard, too! I try to imagine my poses, but sometimes I need references ^^ And yes you did a great job! What a great idea - headcanon accepted
You are welcome, I love and appreciate your work so much ... without yours mine would not be possible <3

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Berserker79 In reply to AlistairAndAnders [2017-03-11 23:27:38 +0000 UTC]

Can't argue with you there: sometimes working on a pose is difficult even if you have a reference picture. The first attempt I did at posing Bethany for this work was a disaster: I was almost ready to give up, but fortunately I went back to making another attempt the next day and I managed to come up with the poses you see here.

Lol, glad to hear I managed to spread some love for my headcanon regarding Bethany's staff!

No problem, I'm happy the models are useful to other Dragon Age fans. Keep making more pictures, it's always good to have more Dragon Age fanart!

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AlistairAndAnders In reply to Berserker79 [2017-03-12 17:12:48 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes, posing can be pretty hard! *phew*
Your headcanon is great, so why not?

I will definitely make more, but I don't have much time at the moment ... sadly

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Berserker79 In reply to GothicGamerXIV [2017-03-04 18:36:19 +0000 UTC]

That's right! Unfortunately, it's a quite underrated movie... And thanks for the !

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