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BlackJill — One is not like the other
Published: 2012-03-03 05:44:20 +0000 UTC; Views: 11806; Favourites: 304; Downloads: 12
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So this is related to *Valgaror 's recent journal concerning what may have been a removal of an avatar either because it was flashing or because it contained a swastika.So just to be certain, I've included both.
Most people have no idea that the swastika was not originally a Nazi symbol and that there are archaeological records as far back as 4000BC, which appears on pottery left behind by the Samarra, an ancient culture in what is now Iraq.
The swastika appears in many cultures and religions as a symbol of peace, harmony and in some cases represents the four corners or eternity.
The swastika is actually not a symbol of hate either. It was misused and quite possibly misinterpreted by the Nazi movement the same way people misused the Spanish/Portuguese word for black, negro. It's quite likely Hitler meant to use the swastika as a symbol of spreading the white movement to all four corners of the world, though there are many other theories on this subject.
While the one on the left represents (is perceived as) hate/war, the one on the right represents love/peace.
Remember...
Context always matters.
So what you see here is not what you see here .
Edit: Perhaps I should have clarified it better. I'm not saying that the NS symbol is a symbol of hate/war, I'm stating that that's how it's perceived by people in general.
So wtf is up with removing the avatar?
I guess we'll find out one way or another.
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A really good point here, even here in Finland it was used in military aircraft but now it can't be because ignorant people associate it with the stolen symbol of other ignorant people. And who are westeners to go tell others not to use this symbol. "We don't want you to use this symbol because one of us stole it for his group of idiots and now we are offended." I mean bunch of white westeners trying to force others to theyr ideas, isn't that exactly what Hitler was all about?
We could just as well be offended by cross because of crusades and abortion clinic bombings. The point is that we shouldn't let fanatics to influence our thoughts.
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Reminds me of a scene from Iron Sky.
Anyways, I totally agree with this stamp.
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Thank you for making this. Also, the Hindu/Buddhist one is usually facing the right, though.
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Ahh, I sent the comment before finishing it, blame telephone call in-between. All Indo-European peoples have the same roots, that is what I wanted to say.
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I guess it has been removed because of the symbol, not flashing. The Nazi symbol is banned in many countries and the original symbol treated alike. Pity, because it is ancient Slavic symbol, too, you may see it in Slavic Neopaganism and reenactment symbolism. In the end all have roots in India. dA staff could educate themselves and judge better.
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I love both swastikas, sieg heil!
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And don't see how that can be confused for a nazi-swatztika.
But I have epilepsy, so I can receive seizures easily, it was probably taken down for fear of people having seizures. And maybe because it looked like a nazi-swatztika.
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Ironically enough it a Swastika also looks like the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet 'Alef'
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From what I remember, some time ago I've read that what is knows as swastika is actually pronounced SU-ASTI in Sanskrit, meaning "He is good" (He being God) and represents rays of the Sun.
It was meant to show God's love for all his children and that he is a source of all life. Germans took that symbol and turned it around so it represents opposite and on top of that they rotated it 45 degrees as if it is moving, advancing. Pretty much German swatsika means something along the lines of "advancing darkness".
I prefer original idea, despite being against religions
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You know this was a good luck symbol used by early aviators before WWII?
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One of them is actually used, or was used, On Japanese military uniforms. I think it was the reverse of the swastika.
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Shame that an icon of harmony like this has forever been tainted by those pathetic excuses for human beings (AKA Nazis).
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ok? that was a little mean but ok just OK
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i'm pretty sure you already know this (as you seem well-versed and studied in this) but i feel the need to say that the origin of the swastika was a symbol of the sun. it means unity and optimism and moving forward.
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THANK YOU. Sometimes I wondered if I was the ONLY person who knew this
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errr which kind of idiot will confused these two pics....?
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Every Jew and politically correct retard in the West
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Can you make another dis-confusion about star of David vs Hexagram?
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It is of extreme importance that people know what this is, instead of living ignorantly.
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I'm very happy someone has finally explained this to the people who didn't know.
I knew to a point it was used before the Nazi's but I didn't know the full background.
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The swastika have had many meanings in a lot of different cultures around the world. In Europe the swastika used to be a symbol of luck and that (I believe) is the sole reason Nazi-German used it in their flag and elsewhere.
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Oh now I undestand why people have these avatars. I never bashed on anyone for them I was just curious.
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People always found me weird or "evil" because I like how swastika's look...
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Before I understood the iconic meaning of it I used to like it too O.o
No one knew I don't think because I was a quiet kid. I think I drew it wrong most times anyways.
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But how do you animate with that framerate
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If you mean the fade in and out animation along with the flash frame rate, it's simple.
When fading in or out, the longer it takes the slower it will become. So if I fade the opacity in or out in increments of 5% while using a 0.03 frame rate, I can still achieve a smooth animation and still be able to have the flashing in between.
Also, with Photoshop, you're able to control the frame rate of each frame. For example, if I want the first five frames to be 0.5, the five frames in the center 5.0 and the last five frames being 0.05, I can do that. How it looks will depend on the amount of frames I use. The faster the frame rate, the more frames I need in order to achieve a smooth animation.
If you're using Gimp, simply use more layers of the object you're animating. For example, create your animation layer by layer, than merge each of those layers into single layers that will become your frames. Then with each frame, add your (####ms) in the name of each frame and go to Filter -> Animation -> Playback. Observe to see if the animation is smooth, if not, go back and either create** or delete frames, or adjust your timing. Repeat until you've achieved your desired animation.
** If you're creating more frames, check to see if the motion of the animation is smooth or jumpy. If you want something to go slow, make certain you move the object only a little bit (a few pixels) at a time for each frame. If you want it to go faster, increase the space between each position.
Example: For a slow animation -> X X X X X X X X If the X's were animated, they'd seem to glide across smoothly because there is little space between each of them on each frame.
For a faster animation: X X X X X X This would make them seem to move faster.
Be sure to match the motion of the animation with the frame rate. Like the fading opacity, the faster your frame rate is the slower you want your object to move so that when it's actually animated it will look smoother.
I hope this helps, if not I could see about making a tutorial. V:
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Notice how they are facing opposite directions. People need to keep that in mind.
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As I read it, I heard he liked it because there was a swastika on a church arch outside his window. I dunno if that's true though lol
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I wonder how many people would flip the fuck out thinking this is KKK: [link]
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One time people graffiti'd all over my neighborhood and my garage door was covered in the symbol to the right. So much fail.
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hmm. i always thought it was a broke cross, that went with the Irish... learn something new every day.
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Thank you so much for spreading that information.
I knew it was a Buddhist symbol, since my uncle's a Buddhist and he passed that info onto me, but I didn't know it was in other countries as well.
Besides, wouldn't DA not have the right to remove it if it were a swastika anyway? The Nazi party is a legitimate political party and they have a right to represent themselves as long as they're not acting against the rules, am I right?
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It's also an African symbol of peace.
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I wouldn't doubt it.
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I support this, so much.
I find your information very interesting, there are things about that symbol I never knew before. Do the people here on dA who have the 'Nazi' symbol support peace, or are they more on Hitlers side? Wondering because I've never really gotten a chance to see what their views are.
As far as the avatar, it's too bad dA's admins don't seem to fix their own wrong actions. They like to post up a journal trying to get white knights to agree with them, or say nothing at all. Either way, nothing changes since they must always be right.
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Hitler even made sure to add a tilt an circle around it as to not taint it entirely.
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You are aware that's bullshit, right?
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actually, it isn't. Look it up. :/
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Nope, it's complete bullshit. What serious movement do you think would consider itself "tainting" a symbol?
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The flashing could be due to epileptic seizures...Everyone's different with how much would cause a seizure, so that's probably the reasoning behind that?
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Both of those are exactly the same. The swastika is a symbol that was chosen by national-socialism because of it's implied meanings. Slander doesn't change that and by pretending that "One is not like the other", you are merely reinforcing this standard of doublethink, where one thing chosen as symbol by someone is all right, while the same thing chosen as a symbol by someone else isn't.
I turn it left, I turn it right, I switch it upside down and encase it in a circle, I add dots or swirls, but the fact remains; A swastika is a swastika is a swastika.
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No, I said "One is not like the other" because dA removed an avatar and we believe it's because it had a swastika on it, so I was playing on how people believe they're different. Though each culture has different uses or meanings for it, the shape is nonetheless pretty standard, with some exceptions of course.
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Ah, well, fair enough then. I still feel that it is a bit misrepresentative, implying the statement that Swastika does in fact not equal swastika.
But art is almost all about interpretation, after all.
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