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Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan president... Vector plus some edit in photoshop... Wish Serbia had people like this leading the country, bold and fearless...Related content
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This is a great tribute. I'm using it as my wallpaper!
I don't know if you've ever seen images of Chavez, back when he led his first failed coup in the 90's. The guy was a handsome young buck:
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Then came prison, the American coup, 1% plots...those all stressed his body to the limit. The man looked heavy at the end of his life, because he actually carried the weight of this world with him 24/7-365.
Much respect Bokula!
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Hey, thanks! Yeah I saw some pics. I think he was a great leader, people probably won't realize how good he was until they see how bad is the American set up president, if that happens there. But it's happening everywhere, even in my country.
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En el infierno y gusaneado jajajaja, Murió hinchado mudo y chillando como un cochino hjajajajajaja
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Como es que se dicen ustedes? "los pacificos?" "venezolanos somos todos?" como siempre y una vez mas la "oposicion" demuestra su miseria. #ChavezViveLaLuchaSigue
Siga DESCARGANDO LA ARRECHERA
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Ellos si. Yo no. Yo hablo por mi. Tu eres una basura. Y tu chavez esta gusaneado desde hace 9 meses, Arrodillese basura!
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Just out of curiosity, how much do you actually know of what Chavez has done for Venezuela?
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He hasn't sold the country out. If it happens thats when Venezuela is fkd... Just like it happened to Serbia
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He's paid over 30 million dollars in oil to companies owned by Bush and his friends. And though he could have sold it in Euros or gold, that would have insured a very high profit and a very big wound to USA, he's done so in dollars.
To give you an idea, Iraq sold its oil in euros before the war, and it was sinking the dollar real fast. After USA took hold, they forced the country to sale on dollars, even though the profit would only be a fraction of what it could be.
Iran is starting to sell in gold rather than dollars... guess what country now claims they have nuclear weapons?
That aside, the number of murders in Venezuela before he came into power were more or less 7.000 a year (in Caracas alone), now it's over 20.000.
All (and I do mean ALL) public services, like water and electricity and schooling have gone from bad to worse, there daily shut downs that could last up to three days depending on the area, those that are openly against the government are killed or worse.
There's even a law that he implemented not too long ago that allows ANYONE between ages 16 and 50 to be drafted into the army.
I have met and seen people from Cuba that tried running away into Venezuela to escape the dictatorship... things are so bad here that they want to go back to their island. But they can't because the government confiscated their passports the moment they touched land.
For these last elections, Venezuelans that live in Colombia tried to cross the main bridge between the two countries in an attempt to vote. The bridge was collapsed (uncertain reasons). Even then, whole families went through by foot (over waist height water) just to go to vote. From Tokyo, people have paid hundreds of dollars just to be able to go to Venezuela for the elections. Embassies all over the world were swamped with those that went to vote remotely (those that could, obviously).
Do you honestly think all those people went to vote for the man that has ruined our economy society and history? All the while calling it things like democracy, an act of God, a revolution for the people and for freedom? You can't get an 80% attendance rate for ANY election if they're not hoping to change something in the country.
Maybe politicians thus far from everywhere haven't been much up to standard... or even close. But Venezuela was better with the previous dictator than with this man.
I do suggest you get yourself informed through more means than the official ones (if at all possible at this point), because if politicians (any one of them) have taught me anything, it's that the louder they speak the greater their lies are.
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"But Venezuela was better with the previous dictator than with this man" I don't know how much you know or where are you from but... That was so wrong, anyway I don't want to start a fight with someone who isn't going to believe my words anyway.
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Dunno where you're from, but you're clearly not living in Venezuela right now.
Delinquents now wield machine-guns and do shootings at the police stations every now and then, just to warn them not to mess with the "law". Officers left and right are murdered, my best friend's father was from the national guard and he was shot in the back while eating lunch, they didn't even steal his wallet.
Roads and highways collapse and unless some high-up is really bothered by it, repairs can take up to three years for something as small as two of three highway lanes being buried under rock.
Electricity gets cut off on constant intervals with the exception of the capital, sometimes you can go a week without light. Insanely high taxes are handed out to those that consume electricity at certain points of the day (the ones most needed). The electric centrals that once had more than enough to sustain the country are being sabotaged on a daily basis, we don't even produce 70% of what we once had.
Schools get militarized or taxed so heavily that only a handful can survive. English has been forbidden to be taught in over half the schools, instead forcing the public teachers teach Indian (from the locals, not the one from India) which was barely spoken all-together.
Chavez claims that, in his rule, no one has starved. Well, now that we can never be sure if we'll find milk, meat, sugar or beans in our super-maket (sometimes we can go on for months without neither) whole families buy dog-chow so as to avoid starving to death. Numbers show that the unemployment rate are on the floor... but they don't show that they consider someone asking for spare change in the corner of the street to be thought as working either.
In many areas of the capital, if you talk badly about the 'president' you are almost certain to get shot. Most likely by someone of the Colombian guerrilla, most of them were paid, given a gun and a place to stay in Caracas by the government years ago.
You can't even stop at a red light without being constantly looking into our rear-view mirrors because "Secuestro express" happens every fucking day! (They kidnap you in your own car and then make you empty your bank-accounts to pay them... they let you live if you're lucky)
And that's not even talking about the bureaucratic nightmare that comes for anyone that's not openly in favor of the government. Many companies just go bankrupt or are acquired by the government without even compensation. Whole buildings that had once been used for things like press, bottling or the like now just get dusty because they were acquired and the country shuts it down.
Venezuela might have once been a beautiful country that was on its way to becoming powerful, advanced and actually civilized. Now it's fallen and continued to fall down thanks to that 'Revolución o Muerte' shouting corrupt liar. If we're lucky we won't get into a civil war within the next four years.
I don't know what you know or think you know about the previous dictator, and I'm not saying that he was a saint or anything, not even close. But of the two evils, he was the lesser one.
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Dunno where you're from, but you're clearly not living in Venezuela right now.
Yes he is. Read his comment.
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Just because he's from Venezuela doesn't mean he's living in Venezuela. The same way that you could have been born and lived most of your life in a town, but be currently residing and living somewhere else.
Right now, most families of the important supporters of Chavez are not living in Venezuela, they went away several years ago. I wonder why?
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The best supporters are the people inside, those who left the country are those who believe that it would end in war, that they could had been killed and it would be a chaos today... But is not, I'm currently living in Venezuela in the city of Valencia... Is beautiful.
About your other comment, sorry for the delay... But seriously I even told my family about what you "see" here, I guess you're from here too? otherwise you couldn't be sure of that, perhaps you learn it from CNN? if you did... I feel sorry for you.
What you're trying to portrait is like something that could happen in the worse parts of Mexico with the drug dealers... Sorry for my english btw now... Let me start with that violence, we have 2 channels here famous for being totally the oposite of the other... VTV and Globovision; the first supporting and showing every good thing from the government (and yeah... hiding the bad things as much as they can) and globovision showing the worse and denying every good thing... Better say ignoring it completely making the people believe 2 lies... That the country is perfect and that the country is about to fall apart tomorrow, the truth is that we're getting better... We're trying hard to educate the youth with better beliefs because that's the only way to end with the violence... We know that the criminal can't learn and we can't just put them in jail forever.... Frankly criminals is the main problem here and corruption (from both sides) because Chavez is always approving and funding new projects but before reach the goal ...the money just "dissapear" You can blame the mayors and governors (from both sides) for that too, Chavez doesn't rule the country alone in his desk... that in some of the cases because with him we now have lot of things that before we could only envy from other countries.
Anyway even that being said is not close to what you said sir, if that were true then we wouldn't be able to get home from work, trust me, I hate globovision they would do anything to make the government look like hell, but you know? they can... They allow them to say whatever they want and there's no Guerrilla colombiana firing their building for that.
"Venezuela might have once been a beautiful country that was on its way to becoming powerful, advanced and actually civilized"
No, the old government would not had let their bussiness with big american enterprises (remember? those who were here taking the oil and selling us the products made with them later? products that we are making now?) get lost... And they didn't had the equivalent of Globovision against them... Back then it was NOT allowed like today.
Anyway... I didn't wanted to discuss here... an advice, open your eyes... Check both sides and then make your own conclusions.
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Bueno, ya que tu inglés no es tan bueno, déjame hablar de la economía venezolana en español (Just in case, if you don't speak Spanish, which I now doubt, ask and I'll translate this text to English).
La producción de petróleo de nuestro país ha caído por el suelo, petroleros venezolanos, la gran mayoría de ellos, han sido botados del país, sustituidos por Iraníes que cobran demasiado. En universidades, la carrera petrolera ha sido cancelada en varias universidades porque "Hay demasiados petroleros". Hay que decir, que gracias a Chavez, Colombia ahora tiene el doble de producción que hace diez años, los expertos en petroleo de nuestro país ahora están ahí... curioso, no?
Yo no veo ni VTV ni Globovisión, porque al final, los dos están bajo control del gobierno, curiosamente. Que mejor manera de mentir a los ciudadanos que vendiendo las ideas de los puntos extremos (El bueno y el malo) siendo ambos falsos. Y, tristemente, CNN está en manos de los gringos, que les conviene que nuestro dictador siga en el poder (después de todo, casi 60% del petroleo vendido por venezuela lo compran ellos, y como bien sabes, estamos muy barato. Si Chavez quisiera realmente herir a los gringos y ganar más dinero vendería en Euros y oro, no dolares).
He estado en Valencia, es bonita, si. Pero que una parte sea bonita no significa que el resto no esté hundida en miseria y corrupción (sugiero que te leas Los Juegos del Hambre (el libro, no la peli) para que te hagas una idea de lo que me refiero).
Lo que decía antes, de que gran parte de la FARC ha sido traída a Venezuela es cierto. No digo que vallan por la calle como un ejército pegando tiros a la gente o los edificios, lo que digo es que muchos de los hogares y apartamentos expropiados ahora están ocupados por colombianos armados que reciben un salario a cambio de mantener un ojo sobre los que viven y pasan por la zona. Muchos hasta presumen de ello.
Algunos de mis amigos no tienen la suerte que he tenido yo. Padres, hermanos, primos y conocidos han muerto en manos de estos mismos personajes. Como ya he comentado antes, hay zonas donde hablar en contra del gobierno abiertamente te garantiza ser tiroteado.
Hasta el momento, ninguna de las cosas que he dicho son mentira o falsas, ni siquiera exageradas, sugiero que busques bien para asegurarte de lo que dices. Y eso incluye preguntando a gente que no forma parte de tu círculo social.
Ahora, para acabar este texto, quisiera hacerte una apuesta.
El señor presidente (si es que aún se le puede llamar señor) y sus compinches han estado hundiendo Venezuela y preparándola para lo que va a suceder dentro de poco.
Gracias a las tendencias de autodestrucción y venta de petroleo exageradamente barato inclusive cuando nuestra producción está cayendo en picado (especialmente después del incidente con la refinería, que nadie sabe porque no se han hecho controles de calidad y mantenimiento en tanto tiempo, algo imposible de creer sabiendo el tamaño e importancia de dicha estructura), nuestro preciada moneda, el Bolivar (o Bolivar Fuerte) ha crecido sobre una burbuja.
En menos de un año, esa burbuja va a reventar. El valor del Bolivar va a caer y el precio de la gasolina (dentro del país) va a subir como la espuma.
Venezuela va a entrar en crisis. Y el presidente va echar la culpa a quien no fue mientras gente morirá de hambre en la calle.
Te juro que espero estar equivocado, pagaría con gusto la apuesta solo con saber que no pasará.
Pero esta no es la primera vez que un país con muchos recursos se le pone un títere de líder (por obra y gracia del poderoso Don Dinero) para hundirlo mientras aclama el aplauso de las masas (Mientras un puñado de personas recogen todas las ganancias).
Lamentablemente, tampoco será la última.
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If he's not living in Venezuela, then how come he used the word "here?" Explain that.
What makes you think that his supporters (and/or their family members) don't even live in the country? Especially when most who are AGAINST Chavez are usually living overseas like in the United States' Florida?
Also, where did you get the idea that a dictator from before is much better than the current President? The current President isn't even bad at all. :\
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I am from Serbia, not from Venezuela, but we were in a similar situation. Foreign forces want to take everything from YOu, no matter how it looks like now, it can only be worse when they come. Same stuff with Gaddafi and Mubarak... Egypt is raging again, democracy didn't bring what they were told it will.
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Ah yes. I'm aware of that.
Someone I know who is also Serbian told me about how Chavez was an ally to the Serbs and was willing to tell the US that "Kosovo is Serbia" (Kosovo independence is nothing more than US trying to play world police) and actually helped them when the US bombed them in the late 90's. Am I correct?
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Yes. They created an imaginary state down there, breaking all the rules they set themselves lol. They did that just so they can create a military base there without problems, and control the drug path, coming from afganistan over turkey etc. coming to Kosovo and spreading to all europe from there. You look how other countries are, but new "democratic" states have to make many sacrifices to get there and it's not even guaranteed.
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Have you even read my comment? At all?
Please, read it over, check your sources, and tell me if ANY of what I've said so far is a lie.
Also, I'd advice you be careful on where you get the facts from. Like, for example, the president claims that he's completely against USA and that he'd never support them... even though around 60% of Venezuelan oil is being sold extra cheap to them (and I mean cheaper than the Arabs... like ten times cheaper).
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Your comment is a common position among critics of the President and I can only say "been there, done that."
I'm sorry but I could say the same thing to you and ask you to check your sources as well, because as far as I know, I do not recall him ever saying that he won't do business with the US, but rather to keep foreign powers such as the US and EU from taking his nation's resources without the approval of him and his people.
Not everything is as simple as it seems.
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I'd like to ask what "without his approval or him and his people" actually mean. Because millions of dollars worth of oil are being sold almost daily, yet I barely see any advance whatsoever in Venezuela's economy.
Yes, not everything is as simple as it seems. The same way that many believe Chavez earner his spot, when in reality he should still be locked in his house due to crimes he committed before even considering being president.
Conveniently, most of the large industries that're not heavily bound and controlled by the government and its filthy rich supporters are either shut down or very close to that.
He claims he won't allow the taking of his resources, yet he drives away the Venezuelan oil miners into Colombia, hiring foreigners that charge way too much and don't even have the necessary experience to actually keep production.
He claims he's improving public service, when in reality he's sabotaging the existing one and putting up the exact same thing he brought down just so he can say "I built this".
And if he's really so desperate to avoid giving control of his resources to foreigners, why doesn't he do something like sell the oil in Euros or Gold like Iran or Iraq (before the war)? It would bring greater profit without any major paperwork or trouble. Plus it'd be a heavy blow against USA (which he badmouths daily every F***ing time he speaks in the radio).
Also, how come that, if he's helping Venezuela so much, the murder rate has more than doubled since he came into power? Why maintenance and inspection protocols in bridges, roads and one of the LARGEST refineries IN THE WORLD have been almost entirely stopped and avoided? Why do supermarkets sell milk that's to expire the very same day, if they sell milk at all? Why does he deny bringing FARC soldiers to Caracas when Colombia's guerrilla has suddenly reduced in nearly 30% and the number of Colombians in Venezuelan ghettos has more or less tripled?
I love my country, its culture and most of its people.
But don't you dare tell me that the monster that calls himself the peaceful and just leader of this nation is a wonderful man that's done nothing but good when five years ago my best friend was left in a wheelchair because he was in a "Marcha" (protest where a whole bunch of people gather, like in Wall-Street not too long ago) and the military, under direct orders of the so called president, shot at the crowd, hitting my friend in the back when he was trying to help his brother to get away from the tear-gas.
Not everything is what it seems through your TV screen now is it?
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You know that the US and Europe both had histories of colonizing the world? Especially that of Latin America, Asia and Africa? Hence the "without approval" part, because the US and European powers would often take resources for their own and still do.
Also, take a good long look at this and you'll notice the the improvements to Venezuela's economy since 1998 when the current president took office.
The crime problem is a problem that has lasted since forever, so it's not something you can blame on any leader. There's efforts to put an end to crime in Venezuela.
Also, if you seriously think Chávez is a criminal, think again. Remember Caracazo? When the administration of Carlos Andrés Pérez cracked down on people who protested against his administration? Do you honestly think that Venezuela before 1998 was a good place?
Also, FARC and Chávez are not close friends nor are they allies. FARC members have been arrested by the Venezuelan government.
Do you honestly think I get this info about Chávez from TV? Also no, I will dare to tell you that Chávez is a peaceful and just leader as well as someone who's done good for Venezuela. You don't get to decide if he's a monster or not for a simple reason: You haven't lived under a dictatorship akin to that of Augusto Pinochet of Chile or Fulgencio Batista of Cuba. Also, Chávez hasn't sent troops, planes and drones to bomb Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, sent millions of dollars of aid to Israel to colonize the Palestinian land. Whatever protest you had against the president is NOT comparable to the Occupy movement. Your arguments are flawed here, because they do not speak for the millions of Venezuelans whose lives improved under the president.
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I'll ask the question of "Why has the number of people murdered more than doubled since he's come into power" once more. [link] [link] [link] [link] [link]
I'll ask "Why, if the country is winning so much money, public infrastructure remains a piece of shit" again too. [link] [link]
I'll even put in "Why the hell if he's supposedly working on bettering Venezuela, does he have the military take aggressive action against protests?". I'm not too sure about what videos are leaked into the internet, but the last few dozen protests were dispersed by shooting at the crowd.
And why o why does he seem rather queasy when the subject of human rights comes to light? [link] [link] (read the last couple paragraphs on this one)
Yes, I do know many people have profited and improved their life-style with Chavez's reign.
I'm pretty sure there was fraud in these elections too. Between the fact that the foreign votes were annulled and not taken into count, that the results were given BEFORE the election process could even finish in many parts of the country, and that the president ordered tanks to go about the city.
He even allegedly won in the states of Zulia and Carabobo, which were heavily AGAINST him by a huge margin in the polls.
Does it sound somewhat similar to how Bush won the re-election?
Yeah, sure, Venezuela has imprisoned FARC members, that's true. But what they don't say is that said members are freed from the prisons within the year, be given Venezuelan nationality and allowed free movement through the city. [link] do you actually believe that prisoners could have such amount of weapons without the officers responsible of the place knowing?
[link] do you honestly believe that they're making a guerrilla army specifically against USA? It's like when USA increases their own police forces soon before a crisis just to "ensure".
I might not have been under real full-out dictatorship, and I know that the previous leader wasn't roses and peaches either (after all, he was the one to take Chavez out of his house arrest back in the nineties before he became a presidential candidate). But then again, it seems that you've come to the belief that somehow Chavez is a better leader for Venezuela than the last guy.
I'll leave with just one question: Do you know how a dictatorship/communism is put in place without the need of an actual revolution? (you know, the military taking over the government and such)
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Do you know how a dictatorship/communism is put in place without the need of an actual revolution?
Sorry but you lost all credibility at this sentence.
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Here, let me rephrase that:
Do you know how a country becomes communist without having to resort to violence?
That aside, I don't think that saying something like that could reduce the credibility of the rest of the comment, and articles.
Unless of course your intention all along was never to actually learn more. Then be my guest and just ignore this, no sense to talk to you anymore if that's the case.
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Yes it would still reduce your credibility, because you're stereotyping Communism even though Communism was irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
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Maybe the answer has something to do?
The question is the question, the answer is the answer. If you believe that it's impossible for one and another to be related, then remain in your narrow frame of mind and carry on.
If not, I'm still waiting for your answer.
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Indeed, it seems that the less one knows the more likely it is they believe to know it all.
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I Srbija je mogla da bude obecana... Al' nas unistise... Sto iznutra sto spolja...
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He just won last week, Chavez for 6 more years ! yes I'm from Venezuela
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I saw some people not appreciating his stands and views on USA and other things, but he is right, I am from Serbia and we thought changing the people on top would bring better times, but now USA and Europe brought their own people here and it just got worse... I hope we will stand for revolution again!
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Of course! don't give up on that, yeah USA is mad because we don't let them take our oil for free like the old bad times.
Serbia is a great country, I'll keep trying to make your art famous here, let's see if I have luck with twitter!
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thanks! Revolution shall begin!
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Let's see if I can make him see this... But I'm just a common guy
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