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A deist is a religious person who believes God exists, and usually also prays. You can be a deist but not be a Christian. You don't have to be a Christian to be a "religious person". Still confused, you enormous friggen idiot?
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youtu.be/tVr0_F7AhOo?t=169
Well, are you sure your right about deism? I left a video explaining what is Deism.
Religion is a cult of people who believes in specific stories that are told to them.
""Still confused, you enormous friggen idiot?""
Look, if you cant handle a decent conversation , might as well end it?
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You don't even comprehend the difference between religions and cults. You're a shining example of the narrow mindedness of atheists. Sure, not all atheists are as ignorant and misinformed as you, but you sure do exemplify a whole bunch of stereotypes. 
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So...Even after those evidence, research and videos that I have provided you and it is not enough?
So did you ever clicked on those links to check things out?
Let me see, Define cult:
""The term cult usually refers to a social group defined by its religious , spiritual , or philosophical beliefs, or its common interest in a particular personality, object or goal . The term itself is controversial and it has divergent definitions in both popular culture and academia and it also has been an ongoing source of contention among scholars across several fields of study.""
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Typical ignorant smug atheist, you don't like religions so you call them cults. Get over yourself, you easily offended little twerp
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So if religion isnt a cult? Can you explain to me about the differences of a cult and religion?
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You're willfully ignorant if you can't comprehend the differences
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Not gonna be rude but,you havent answer my question?
And how could I know if I could comprehend it if I havent understand the differences?
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Typical smug atheist, so little information, yet so much smug arrogance. Go try visiting a church, talking to the people, ask them your questions. Open your mind, be a little curious, stop being so willfully ignorant.
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And how are you sure those people arent wrong?
I mean we do have the library, google search and dictionary websites to find our evidence right?
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"And how are you sure those people arent wrong?"
About what? Be specific.
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So you prefer to get answers from a flawed/inconsistent results over accurate , proven and consistent results?
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You're not even making any sense.
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What Im saying is that trying to get answers from church itself is less accurate than trying to get answers from well written and educated authors.
Especially consider that christians generally get offended when theyre religion is called a "cult".
For example: Even something as simple as google can show up with most of the answers that happens to be more proven.
Youtube videos even have evidence to demostrate it?
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Especially consider that atheists generally get offended when their religion is called a cult
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But Im not offended when you called atheism a cult?
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You don't understand the difference between generalities and cases of specific individuals.
You are astonishingly ignorant on many, many topics.
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So what your trying to say is, you prefer general ideas that came from many christians over actual facts that expers has spent decades to make?
Thats insane dont you think?
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You're not even saying what it is you're referring to.
Is this still about your desire to call things you don't like cults?
Typical smug arrogance, you're confirming so many bad stereotypes about atheists....
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^Are you the one who is the one being offended or is it me?
Because you couldnt take that people classifying christians as a cult while I can tolerate atheist being classified by a christians just fine.
Most of the christians I met usually tolerate being classified as a cult.
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You're shocked and surprised that using a derogatory term to demean a legitimate religion is offensive.
Seriously, are you mentally handicapped?
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Lemme see...
derogatory = "showing a critical or disrespectful attitude."
Well Im not sure if I think if Im offended but I sort of think you are?
Considering that most of your comments were assumptions and insults.
-_-;
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And you're not engaging in insults?
How stupid are you?
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Explain to me how am I insulting you? Where did I said anything wrong.
If you cant come up with a logical and rational one then the accusation of me being "insultful" is invalid.
Claiming I am stupid but yet you dont have any proper evidence to prove your "superior intelligence", sounds close-minded isnt it?
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You don't realize how calling a legitimate religion a "cult" is an insult.
That's more than enough evidence to prove your inferior intellect, dumbass.
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""You don't realize how calling a legitimate religion a "cult" is an insult.""
The reason you find it offended is because you dont really like to see your religion as refer to as a cult or classified as something that is insignificant and basic.
Or as Pearl from Steven Universe:
"Humans live short , boring , insignificant lives so we made up stories to make us feel like were something bigger. We want to blame on all our problems on some single enemies that can fight instead of a complex social network that is beyond anybodies control."
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I'm not a Christian.
Of course you get your philosophies from children's cartoon shows. You're an imbecile.
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Yeah, a kiddies show, that happens to be more educating about human emotional compensation/teaching to understand an individual for their differences,philosophies about human life with beautiful animation visuals.
What I think its kind of ironic is that you have tendency to "judge a book by its cover".
Before you try to make a bias judgement of how close minded others are? I suggest try to hold that judgement on yourself first please. -_-;
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Oh fuck off. You don't get to call decent people cult members and then cry about being insulted, you ignorant little bitch. Go read a book.
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Except I did read a book books.google.com.my/books?id=f… ?
"You don't realize how calling a legitimate religion a "cult" is an insult."
-You just contradicted yourself with:
"You don't get to call decent people cult members and then cry about being insulted, you ignorant little bitch. "
So after a decent conversation you beginning to show a sign of swearing, using peoples minuscule grammar error and claiming that they are idiots without study.
Thats a really pridictable sign for a Republican.
Since this isnt the first time I talked to someone like you, another one of them is
"Oh fuck off." Dude , Chill. This conversation is not the end of the world.
And just to remind you again? I dont get offended by calling an Atheist "cult" because its nothing wrong.
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Holy shit you're dense. That's not a contradiction, you ridiculously stupid dipshit. You ARE an idiot, you've been providing evidence for this fact for this entire conversation.
When I told you to fuck off, that means fuck off. Don't make me block you.
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1.Blocking me is not the end of the world so I had no problem with that.
2.You couldnt come up with a proper evidence or a conversation and yet your easily offended.
Proves your not really open-minded as you said you were.
3.Dont need to worry about blocking me, I already did. Since thats what you wanted. Bye~
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I'm not sure why it has to be either or. Personally, my belief in Christ enables me to enjoy the wonders of Creation.
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Doesn't that limit your thoughts to God made everything? Sorry but humanity does not need God, if such a being exists then he is a sick sadistic fuck who lets his followers suffer. Wonder if Harry Potter was written in a desert thousands of years ago would people believe that?
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By what standard would you call God sadistic? A human one? Which human's? What is your objective moral system by which you would like to judge? Also, do you not think there are some situations where it necessary to suffer for some greater good?
Why is it inherently a bad thing (as you implied) to think that God made everything (whether by fiat or via some process like evolution is another argument that we need not go into).
Re: Harry Potter, doubtless there are simpletons out there who do indeed believe it is a true story, just as some genuinely believe the earth is flat. The real question is do we have any good reason for believing there is an almighty deity. Your thought?
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The fact that ROFLTURKEY never asked a religious person how a good God can exist in a universe that has bad things in it shows that he's ridiculously closed minded
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Yeah I'm totally closed minded. Who gets stoned to death in your holy book? Not the son is it? Pretty sure those disrespecting the father are to be killed. Also what does it say about gays?
All religious fanatics cherry pick parts of their book when it suits them.
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Life, existence
It's about the heart, not the mind.
The heart it's the priority.
Open your heart first, then your mind.
The Old Testament it's not an example to follow. It's a story about how some things happened.
At that time humans were not mature to understand better rules in the same way that children cannot get many things. Do you teach children the same way you teach adults? Jesus came and brought us the new real rules we must follow and these are rules of the heart, not of the mind.
Jesus says nothing special about gays, nothing more than what he says about every other sin. They are all welcomed, but don't expect to be allowed to transfer your sins into the church.
The promise it's not about this life, the promise it's for the eternal life, for your soul.
But again it's not an exchange. Your source and your destination is your heart.
The law of the heart is alive, the law of the mind, no.
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But why then teach "children" by such cruel stories? Is that right to spread fear of damnation and sin to make people obey, or to teach them judge everyone by something they were said is "right"? Cause that is the Old Testament, it's a cruel story full of strict rules "Do as we say, or you'll burn in hell".
And the New Testament, being better indeed, still has the son of God die in cruel way, he's forced to sacrifice self in the name of redemption of humankind.. Who said, humankind was all condemned. Is that really the way of hearth?
Beside, you used words "Jesus says nothing special about gays, nothing more than what he says about every other sin." Than you say, being gay is a sin = you judge and bring all gays to the level of of other considered sinner like liars/murderers etc. Do you think is that right?
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At that time human were barbarians they couldn't be controlled another way. Even today we apply extreme laws for extreme cases that cannot be controlled in any other way, than to spend their life in prison. These barbarians of that old times are "children" in terms of mental growing. Do you have to suggest anything else for someone who keeps on stealing and killing?
Now if you ask why some people teach children with these stories then you should ask them. I am an Orthodox Christian and no one taught me to follow the Old Testament. As said above at least in Greece where I live the Old Testament it's not an example to follow. It's a story about how some things happened.
Jesus just had a moment, but HE WAS NOT FORCED TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF. Where did you find this?
Yes, human kind was condemned by it's own acts and way of living. In this life we are still condemned, because we need to change more. Do not mix answers I gave creating impressions. However yes, when anyone, even more if He is Jesus the son of God and man, sacrifices himself to save others it's the way of the heart.
Not all sins are considered equal in the New Testament, not personally I considered them equal. There are grades. What is up in this scale it's a big theological discussion. I never brought gays to same level with murderers. I just said that everyone is welcomed, because less or more we are all sinners.
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I understood what you meant by children = low conscious level of those people, let's call them barbarians. But I wonder still if there was need to put "restrains" cause for me, the most perfect thing on this world is Nature. We try to restrain animals/earth itself for our purposes, same way people since ages try to do it to other people, I don't find that way right nor good, it's using people, not loving them. If God himself gave us the "free will" gift, why people themselves claim to restrain each other and put own will upon them? I found SO many contradictions in (not only) christian religion, it just "obey, or you'll suffer"/"someone hit your face, give him another cheek to hit" etc etc.. I find those thing opposite to nature laws.
And well, I say he was forced, cause how they hell he could escape, once was accused and convicted? The place was full of foes, everybody knew him, he was alone put among the bloodthirsty crowd, it not seem a free choice.
And well, I would rather ask WHY people are like this. Maybe it's because they are raised in sick society that tried to enslave their minds with thousands of rules/religion/law/overpopulation... Not focusing on forcing them to change by putting fear of being burned in eternal fire, rather find the source of their destructive behavior. Of course, that is just my opinion, cause for me religion is a kind of muzzle, but surely for you won't be acceptable point, because of rules you follow.
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There are no contradictions. You speak of humans actions and not what is written. Where it's written "Hate-fight-kill each other"? You take ugly things and you put them inside Christianism. God gave us free will to choose and some advices you may say.
I'm not sure for what you mean by "nature laws". Nature's actions it's based on instict, needs and the strict maths of action-reaction. I see no heart in nature, no forgivance, no "undo" (on intention level as actions cannot be taken back). Yes, it sounds like a kind of opposite.
By "he's forced to sacrifice self in the name of redemption of humankind." you meant forced by others? Sorry but what I got was that you meant forced by God, as I heard this before by others non Christians. Yes, people forced him, they killed him but again Jesus was not forced, Jesus was God and man at the same time he was-is powerful, he could escape at any time, but he prefered-chose to show us what selfsacrifice means.
People are like this for many reasons, the two basics are that they want power-more power-more gold and that they cannot tolerate different.
"Do this or you will go to hell!" it's words by people who use religion as a tool or simply get things in a wrong way or sthey are stuck in other ages. I cannot know in what way they tell it to you, for what reason, what people. I hear this often by people outside Greece, I don't have such experiences. The heart of Christianism it's the words of Christ and not what other people say or do. Concerning the past yes, many times religions were used to serve evil actions. This is also happening today and this will keep on happening. But if you have an evil or wrong translation this doesn't mean the original is wrong or evil. If you are so much interested start reading on your own the New Testament and at least at first place stop thinking of what others say and do.
We are here talking just fine and in the end you throw "...because of the rules you follow."
Ooo Yes, I follow the rules of my heart!
Don't disturb me again, if you don't apologize.
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I apologize warmy as Hell for thinking and discussing, if you need my apologize, feel better.
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Blabla my religion is bad interpreted by ignorants, is not my fault, bla bla bla I don't don't that bla bla ...I'm glad Jesus didn't tell people to stone their women, or we would be screwed
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Once lost the ground, they come with agressivity, don't they? All have the same speech, "My religion does that, I don't"... Doesn't it remind something? I could take more serious one christian who'd "Yes, we do that, and I agree with"
Anyway, after such warm answer looks like is
Flawless victory for you.
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Unlike you I'm NOT hiding behind smart words.
Does nature do this?
FUCK YOU!
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huhh? You're not even referring to something that happens anymore, you big doofus. A reformation happened, crack open a history book and you might not sound so friggen dumb all the time. sheesh! typical....
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