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It's time to bring you the Cybertronian grammar. This is the simplified version. ^^And as Professor Armanduil said: "This grammar will be necessary in the future."
Collab with ^_^
Video for pronunciation: vimeo.com/104192600
Second lesson: btfly009.deviantart.com/art/Zu…
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BTFly009 In reply to ??? [2014-11-18 00:06:15 +0000 UTC]
It was easy. ^^ My friend is writing more lessons.
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TheBaesCommsAccount In reply to BTFly009 [2014-11-18 00:35:01 +0000 UTC]
ah, that's cool can't wait to read more of them X3
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SeekerNami [2014-08-25 10:23:23 +0000 UTC]
I'm totally mermerized. I love this. I love every single bit of this.
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FrancescaNekoryu [2014-08-24 11:27:24 +0000 UTC]
Is that grammar lesson completely yours or is based on afficial materials?
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BTFly009 In reply to FrancescaNekoryu [2014-08-24 19:01:47 +0000 UTC]
This grammar is something totally new, here. ^^
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ilovemy3cats [2014-08-24 06:14:18 +0000 UTC]
Haha yes please make more of these. I can read and write cybertronian but I want to learn to speak it
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BTFly009 In reply to ilovemy3cats [2014-08-24 19:03:02 +0000 UTC]
The lessons have been updated, was placed a link to the videos showing the pronunciation. ^_^
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CuriousCucumber [2014-08-22 08:21:39 +0000 UTC]
*head spinning*
woman who do you do this??? I mean .... hooooooooow
this is just so official and real and .... how
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BTFly009 In reply to CuriousCucumber [2014-08-24 19:04:27 +0000 UTC]
^^ Glad you liked!
Now were placed links to videos that show pronunciation. ^___~
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RedOptics [2014-08-20 17:06:19 +0000 UTC]
Now I have to learn this version of cybertronian xD The other version was so hard ><
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BTFly009 In reply to RedOptics [2014-08-21 01:06:50 +0000 UTC]
I didn't know the other version. Glad you enjoyed this one. ^_^
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RedOptics In reply to BTFly009 [2014-08-21 02:07:46 +0000 UTC]
The original version in the movie, like, the real life version lol
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BTFly009 In reply to RedOptics [2014-08-24 19:35:42 +0000 UTC]
Ah, I thought you were talking about comics. ^^
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Lemniskate [2014-08-20 12:12:56 +0000 UTC]
The very first thing necessary is to explain your transcription: What's the difference between vowels with a following h and those without?
Would there be a difference between zan and a hypothetical *zahn?
Is the au in rauh a diphthong and thus has the word only one syllable, or is au a sequence of two monophthongs (a-u), thus has the word two syllables?
What does the digraph ss in the word zussan signify? Does it mean that you have to pronounce the s long? Would there be a difference between zussan and a hypothetical *zusan?
I guess your transcription is based on the conventions of the Portuguese alphabet, but most of your readers might not know them.
There is an error when you're talking about simple and compound syllables: your simple "syllables" are actually simple glyphs, and your compound "syllables" are compound glyphs. Your compound glyphs designate syllables that have only an onset (e.g. tsa, where ts- is the onset and -a the nucleus of the syllable) or a coda (e.g. ohn, where depending on your transcription's conventions either o- or oh- is the nucleus and either -hn or -n is the coda of the syllable), whereas your compound glyphs designate syllables that have both an onset and a coda.
Your one example of conjugation (rauh zan suisson) combined with the information in the vocabulary that zan is the infinitive leads me to the hypthesis that the conjugation for the present consists of personal pronoun + infinitive.
My knowledge of the Mayan writing system is based on this extremely useful book: Introduction to Maya Hieroglyphs by Harri Kettunen and Christophe Helmke. I'll pay close attention whether the wrting system really is 1. similar and 2. more elaborate than the Mayan wrting system.
Why the raving lunatic Galvatron would write an introduction to this academic topic is beyond my understanding.
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Suisson In reply to Lemniskate [2014-08-21 19:26:54 +0000 UTC]
Oh, yes! It was my mistake. The h exists to give a slight extension in the pronunciation of the vowel. The lesson has been corrected.
Yes, the words are different. Words can be zan (to be), zahn (ornament) or za'ahn (love) with distinct meanings.
The word "rauh" has two syllables, rah and uh . Together they form a hiatus ra-uh. Each syllable with its distinctive sound.
Yes, my transcription is based on sound value in Portuguese, which resembles the sound value of the Cybertronian language. We are providing videos to show the pronunciation of the words.
They define these symbols as syllables. This is as close as possible of the grammars used here. So I transcribed as syllables.
Thanks for the book! Now I understand what Galvatron and Professor Armanduil said about Cybertronian language!
Galvatron has been described as a bad boy in this world. This was a mistake. For now, your knowledge about the bots is little, my friend. And how do I know (put a mysterious background music here)? One day I'll tell you!
Thanks for the questions and please keep asking about these simple lessons. ^_____^
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Lemniskate In reply to Suisson [2014-08-25 13:08:28 +0000 UTC]
Who is "they" who define the symbols?
I listened to the pronounciation guide video. I'm no phonologists and my native German colours my sound perception. This is what I heard:
tsah - vowel sounds nasalised: IPA: [t͡sã] instead of [t͡sa]
tseh - short vowel
tsih - long vowel
tsoh - short vowel
tsuh - long vowel
ahn - short vowel
ehn - long vowel, but different quality than in tseh: [t͡se], but [ɛn]
ihn - short vowel
ohn - short vowel
uhn - short vowel
tsahn - short vowel
tsehn - long vowel
tsihn - short vowel
tsohn - short vowel
tsuhn - short vowel
ah - short
eh - long [e]
ih - short
oh - short
uh - long
zan - I hear [t͡sã] instead of (assumed) *[zan]
rauh - not sure, but it sounds like the stress is on the second syllable
biahr - stress definitely on the second syllable
drohn - halflong vowel sounds nasalized: [drɔ̃ˑn]
kabahr ka drohn - intonation-vize, kabahr ka behaves like one word with the stress on bahr
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Rethalia-Prime [2014-08-19 20:15:31 +0000 UTC]
This is fantastic! I'm gonna be spitting this stuff out for the rest of the week XD
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Rethalia-Prime In reply to BTFly009 [2014-08-21 01:14:00 +0000 UTC]
Omp that would be perfect XDD
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BTFly009 In reply to Rethalia-Prime [2014-08-21 01:32:51 +0000 UTC]
We're doing a video showing the sounds. ^____~
This will help in pronunciation.
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Rethalia-Prime In reply to BTFly009 [2014-08-21 01:56:36 +0000 UTC]
That is awesome, I can't wait!
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BTFly009 In reply to Rethalia-Prime [2014-08-24 19:36:34 +0000 UTC]
The link has been added. ^__~
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Bluetabbycat [2014-08-19 20:07:35 +0000 UTC]
SUPER AWESOME! I've always wondered about Cybertronian language!
I'm curious though, what is your source for this?
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BTFly009 In reply to Bluetabbycat [2014-08-24 19:06:23 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, dear! Glad youliked!
Well, nothing of this world, I guarantee! XD
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Myth--and--Destiny [2014-08-19 16:29:45 +0000 UTC]
I don't get it, but I shall keep an eye, or optics, out for more like these. (:
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BTFly009 In reply to Myth--and--Destiny [2014-08-21 01:11:06 +0000 UTC]
Oh, there will be more classes. We will also leave a link with the sounds. ^__^
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BTFly009 In reply to Stopmotiontk421 [2014-08-21 01:09:31 +0000 UTC]
Yes, very, very useful. ^__~
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Suisson In reply to Spikeprime [2014-08-22 22:40:19 +0000 UTC]
Oriohn! Because Optimus is Latin and Prime, in this case, a title. And it's just Oriohn without Pax (this is also Latin ^__^) You can read: O-ree-on. And this is the link for you to see how to spell this name: www.pinterest.com/pin/38090608…
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Spikeprime In reply to Suisson [2014-08-22 22:51:20 +0000 UTC]
Well... I'm afraid it wouldn't be Ohrion, because he was called Orion Pax until he became a Prime, even on Cybertron, before he comes to Earth he's called Optimus Prime.
So again, I wonder how Optimus Prime would be spelled with this language, since I can't see a method of spelling that
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BTFly009 In reply to millylove1098 [2014-08-21 01:14:55 +0000 UTC]
We're doing a video spelling the sounds. ^__^
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millylove1098 In reply to BTFly009 [2014-08-21 11:43:21 +0000 UTC]
I'm looking forward to it!
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