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Description "I honestly don't really like Millie. She never had much appeal to me and I feel like she was too mean to Blossomfall, but I can understand why she was acting the way she was."
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"I don't think Millie deserves all the hate that she gets. She's done some bad things but everyone makes mistakes."
Ok cool.

"ANYONE WHO LIKES MILLIE IS FUCKING STUPID. CAN'T THEY SEE HOW MUCH OF A BITCH SHE WAS?"
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"HOW FUCKING DARE YOU INSULT MILLIE. SHE'S FUCKING PERFECT. SHUT UP AND GO DIE."
sToP.

So recently I received some comments from Millie supporters and it encourged (for the lack of a better word lol) me to redraw this:
   
and rehash my opinions on Millie.


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My opinions on Millie have changed a bit over the years; I don't hate her as much as I used to, but I still dislike her. [LENGTHY RANT AHEAD I'M SORRY; skip to the cut if you'd like]

My anger against her have fizzled because I've seen people bring up a few good points. She brought Graystripe back home. She was only worried about Briarlight because she had almost lost her two times before. She acted the way she did against Blossomfall because of her stress.  I could go on.
I mean, compared to Rainflower, Millie is an absolute ANGEL.


Although I am completely aware of these points, personally, Millie has never been much of an appealing character. Here are my reasons :

First off, I will not use the argument "Millie stole Graystripe from Silverstream" because Silverstream has consented Graystripe's relationship with Millie and supports it. (and the fact that the Erins confirmed Graystripe will choose Silverstream when he enters StarClan is punishment enough for Millie lol... Graystripe and Millie's relationship in the novels wasn't that great anyways.)

Millie...just doesn't do much. I haven't read the books in a long time, but from what I recall, I don't think Millie has done anything significant after she brought Graystripe home (but even so, Graystripe just doesn't seem as fun of a character at all when he comes back, compared to the original series). The only think I remember her for is fussing constantly for her kits and sharing prey with Graystripe.

Millie coddles Briarlight excessively. Yes, I understand that she almost died twice, but doesn't that in a sense show Millie that she's a fighter? Jayfeather is there to take care of her and Briarlight has shown to be strong and independent.
There are other mothers in the series who have experienced traumatic events with their kits. Frostfur was the mother of Cinderpelt AND Brightheart, yet she didn't go hysterical and yell her other children. (YES, i get that Frostfur was born a clan cat and is used to violence and injuries, but she had two of her own kits mangled and defaced and still remained calm and loving to her other children.)

I've seen people say that Blossomfall is a bratty attention whore and that she's the bad guy. People compare her to Bumblestripe and say that he didn't care if Millie ignored him. I agree that she was acting a bit childish, but every cat has their individual personalities and what they deem "acceptable behavior" from their parents. It's like that when they were kits, Blossomfall grew accustomed to being pampered by her mother. That's why when Millie started ignoring her, Blossomfall felt neglected and jealous. Sometimes, you can't help those feelings. Blossomfall herself has said that she felt guilty for having them. 

Then Blossomfall and Ivypool went into the tunnels. Blossomfall openly expresses "Will Millie miss me if I die down here?". She's truly insecure about how her mother views her. I don't think that this is "bratty". A lot of children who are ignored by their parents will doubt their love for them and make them feel neglected. When they return, Millie does something that I really don't like. She berates Blossomfall, confirming Blossomfall's fears and making her believe that Millie would not have missed her if she had died in the tunnels.

Millie says that what they did was irresponsible, which I agree to; they were wasting their time and were being dumb. But then she goes on to her to "grow up and become a proper warrior." Um. Proper warrior? Millie, who stays back in the clan and whines and cries and coddles Briarlight apparently know what it means to be a proper warrior. I don't remember seeing Millie go out and hunt for Briarlight, so why does she so strongly feel as though Blossomfall has to?
She goes on to say that "Briarlight would do anything to help feed the clan." Ok, way to go. Not only are you making Blossomfall feel like you wouldn't care if she died, but now you're comparing her to Briarlight. THE VERY THING THAT SHE IS FEELING GUILT ABOUT. that is one big no-no. (correct me if I'm wrong, I read this on the wiki) Brackenfur even approaches Millie and says that the important thing is that they're safe. She then proceeds to yell at him.

People have said "Well, Blossomfall should've confronted her mother about it." But after all those things that Millie has said, would Blossomfall really have felt secure enough to open up to her mom? Also, shouldn't Millie be the ADULT and talk to Blossomfall FIRST?

I don't really remember what time frame the above scene took place, but it also unnerves me. Blossomfall isn't the one who confronts her mother about the injury. She didn't want to take her mother's "attention". Hazeltail has to be the one who calls her and tells her "Hey, I think your daughter's sick." Millie then waves her of in a very "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT" way and says "What? She's fine. I have to go check on Briarlight." Really? Briarlight can live a five minutes without your attention. What ticks me off is that Millie doesn't even take a second to walk over and ask what's wrong. 

tbh, I would like Millie a lot more if the Erins had included some sort of scene where she and Blossomfall console in eachother and apologize. But sadly it never happened. Afterwards, Millie just seemed indifferent to the whole situation.

I guess all of my reasons above are invalid if you play the "she was hysterical" card, but eh, those who defend Millie would have found a way to counter me anyways.

tl,dr; I have no doubt in my mind that Millie loves her kits. I know she does. She's not a terrible mother, but for the reasons above she's certainly not one of the best either. I can understand why people like her and that's totally ok! I just personally am not fond of her.

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Point is, people who are allowed to love Millie have all the right to. They are allowed to defend her and admire her. Likewise, people who dislike Millie are entitled to their opinion and are allowed to express why.

What is not ok is when you get disrespectful and personal about it. Do not insult someone personally because of their preference or dislike for a character. Do not wish death upon them. Do not get overly passionate about trying to change someone's mind about a character. Do not get butthurt over FICTIONAL CATS.

I'm actually thinking about closing the comments on the old drawing. I've looked through them the other day and it's a bit of a mess. x'D

Feel free to leave your opinions, but please be tasteful and respectful. 'preciate it.

aa well i wasted 45 minutes typing that and now im tired. sorry if there are grammar/spelling mistakes anywhere i will proofread later.

g'day.

do not use, redistribute, repost my art and/or my characters without my permission thanks
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Comments: 488

Mothstar1234 [2021-04-25 22:15:31 +0000 UTC]

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WarrriorsFan [2021-04-20 08:35:36 +0000 UTC]

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Metaco15 In reply to WarrriorsFan [2021-07-22 22:17:49 +0000 UTC]

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NightstormXStarstorm [2021-03-21 00:46:14 +0000 UTC]

I agreeeee serentity. I used to like her until i saw how she treated blossomfall

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AuthorChanStarUwU [2020-07-31 05:58:19 +0000 UTC]

Miller cam die in a hole

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Sharkythegecko [2019-05-02 01:33:43 +0000 UTC]

I noticed she didn't appear in the allegiances for Lost Stars. Either they "forgot" her or she's dead, which thank starclan if she's dead. She was just a wast of space in the elders den! She only cared for one of her kits, she never actually DID ANYTHING besides bring back Graystripe! It was time for her to die already to be honest, although she might not be missed by many people. Blossomfall is ok, I don't really know much about her since the Erin's only use like the same 4 characters every dang book. I love the art btw :3

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Metaco15 In reply to Sharkythegecko [2021-07-22 22:18:04 +0000 UTC]

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SparrowTheFireWolf [2019-04-16 14:29:54 +0000 UTC]

Who is the cat next to Blossomfall, it's been a while since I've read the books

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CascadingSerenity In reply to SparrowTheFireWolf [2019-04-16 15:20:56 +0000 UTC]

hazeltail ^^

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voncikama In reply to CascadingSerenity [2020-04-26 21:14:26 +0000 UTC]

Millie is worst mom at this world!
I mean if you have tree kits then take care of them all !!!!!

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Vixxeon In reply to voncikama [2020-07-31 23:30:11 +0000 UTC]

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voncikama In reply to Vixxeon [2020-08-01 07:04:04 +0000 UTC]

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Vixxeon In reply to voncikama [2020-08-01 15:51:23 +0000 UTC]

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voncikama In reply to Vixxeon [2020-08-01 18:22:16 +0000 UTC]

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Vixxeon In reply to voncikama [2020-08-02 00:41:27 +0000 UTC]

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voncikama In reply to Vixxeon [2020-08-02 06:36:12 +0000 UTC]

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Vixxeon In reply to voncikama [2020-08-02 16:27:23 +0000 UTC]

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voncikama In reply to Vixxeon [2020-08-02 17:58:00 +0000 UTC]

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SparrowTheFireWolf In reply to CascadingSerenity [2019-04-16 16:17:20 +0000 UTC]

ah thank you, btw I love your art

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CatScratches425 [2019-04-05 23:44:34 +0000 UTC]

I don't really like Millie. This may be my favoritism towards Blossomfall speaking or my huge obsession with SilverxGray, but honestly she never appealed to me. I do understand why she took more care of Briarlight, but the way she treated her other two kits, mainly Blossomfall, kinda annoyed me.

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Rosethewarriorcat [2018-11-30 06:26:17 +0000 UTC]

I like Millie. she was only mean to Blossomfall because she WASNT paralized for life, she loved all her kits the same. Silverstream is a mary-sue in my opinion.

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luvwarriors In reply to Rosethewarriorcat [2020-05-04 13:15:33 +0000 UTC]

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MagicCat360 In reply to Rosethewarriorcat [2019-05-20 15:30:35 +0000 UTC]

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YeenaDeena [2018-10-18 17:16:23 +0000 UTC]

I am glad Briarlight died. She were a waste of space. Honeyfern died for nothing. Hope Millie feels pain.

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-08 07:18:56 +0000 UTC]

What? 
A waste of space?
Would you say that to a person in a wheelchair?

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YeenaDeena In reply to AlphaAreus [2019-02-08 09:07:43 +0000 UTC]

A person in a wheelchair can actually do things so no. But Briarlight is the most useless cat I've ever seen and boy am I glad she is dead

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MagicCat360 In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-05-20 15:33:43 +0000 UTC]

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MagicCat360 In reply to MagicCat360 [2019-05-21 22:10:41 +0000 UTC]

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YeenaDeena In reply to MagicCat360 [2019-05-20 19:44:27 +0000 UTC]

Brightheart was an amazing character who actually did something good. She survived a trauma. Who babied her? Cloudtail even hung out with that slut Daisy more then Brightheart for awhile. Briarlight got babied by Millie, another cat I am glad is dead! (WOO!) Of course I am happy!

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MagicCat360 In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-05-21 22:09:40 +0000 UTC]

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YeenaDeena In reply to MagicCat360 [2019-05-22 17:51:24 +0000 UTC]

But still, saying "Oh she's alright, I'll go check on Briarlight" to Blossomfall is NOT ALRIGHT. Blossomfall had been injured while Briarlight laid there doing medicine cat stuff. So yes, I can blame Millie for that.

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Phapha332 In reply to YeenaDeena [2021-07-07 11:44:36 +0000 UTC]

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MagicCat360 In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-05-22 20:11:07 +0000 UTC]

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YeenaDeena In reply to MagicCat360 [2019-05-22 22:28:09 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, I am on Sunset and she's a rail pain in the ass there. But I guess I'm more mad that Cloudtail is ditching Brightheart for daisy.

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MagicCat360 In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-05-26 11:24:00 +0000 UTC]

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-08 09:32:40 +0000 UTC]

Yowch! Not a shred of sympathy?
That's alright though, you have your opinions.

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YeenaDeena In reply to AlphaAreus [2019-02-08 11:03:37 +0000 UTC]

I hate Millie and everybody that is related to that wretch, that's why. I could write an entire bible on why I hate her.
So no, no sympathy. 

Also, Brightheart got no sympathy from Bluestar/Daisy or Daisy's kits, so why should Briarlight get any kind of sympathy? Because her pathetic excuse of "warrior" mom called Millie gets butthurt otherwise? I think not. Millie is the biggest scum of the entire series.
Even Crowfeather, an asshole is a better parent then she could even dream to be.

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-08 19:37:08 +0000 UTC]

Well, i can understand your bitter hatred for a character in this series. 

Ivypool is my least favourite cat in the whole series, i hate her to the core. 
But... i don't hate Flipkit, Thriftkit and Bristlekit. It's not their fault who their mother is. 

I don't exactly understand why someone would hate characters whom are related to a character that you despise.
Sure, Blossomfall and Bumblestripe are honestly, just... bad. I don't like them at all that much, but i don't exactly blame them. They can't control who their mother is. I can't even dislike Blossomfall's kits, even if their parents are immensely far apart in age.

Also, may i just say, it's better off comparing Millie to worse parents (like Rainflower or Sandgorse) since Crowfeather did love his son, but his damaged relationship with Nightcloud made it impossible to bond with him. 

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YeenaDeena In reply to AlphaAreus [2019-02-10 08:35:12 +0000 UTC]

Hm.. I like Ivypool.. EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SHE NAMED A KIT "FLIPKIT". Flip.Kit.  Why?

I don't like Bumblestripe because he is a pain in the ass, but Blossomfall, well I understand her. It's Millie's fault.
Well, sure am glad she will lose her mate in starclan. 

Yeah, wait who was Sandgorse?
Also, Crowfeather is just using excuses. Divorced parents can stand to meet their exes for their children. Crowfeather is just weak.

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-10 09:52:57 +0000 UTC]

Welp, Fidgetflake is worse. Flipkit might be called something that makes sense in the future, unlike what they did with the skyclan medicine cat. 

Yeah, i agree that Bumblestripe was defiently cruddy, and Blossomfall had her bad and good moments. 
Let's not forget the time though, when millie was actually a great character. In the manga Greystripe's adventure. 

Sandgorse was Tallstar's dad. (Now that i think about it though, Sandgorse and Crowfeather are kinda the same)
Crowfeather and Nightcloud's relationship was exactly the problem. Nightcloud was SO overprotective of Breezepelt, it made it impossible for Crowfeather to talk to ANY of them, much less when they are together.

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YeenaDeena In reply to AlphaAreus [2019-02-10 11:17:38 +0000 UTC]

*Throws up* No..is that a thing? FIDGETFLAKE!? (I haven't read many books since I live in Sweden and have to buy from the US or Uk.)

Never read the manga's, but I still can't like Millie..

Oh yeah, I forgot. Nightcloud was just.. GOD, Breezepelt is an adult! My boyfriend's parents are kind of the same with my boyfriends 22 year old brother so fuck Nightcloud. (People who baby their grownass children should get slapped)

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-10 20:17:39 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. I'm guessing he was named fidgetkit for that fact that he fidgeted a lot as a kit. But.... FidgetFLAKE? Really Frecklewish?

I guess i can understand. But please, i recommend you read it when you can.
Not just for Millie, but just for the enjoyment of it. It's a nice story. 



Yeah, Nightcloud wasn't that good either. Alas, there are some people who are so desperately clinging to their adult children whilst treating them like they're six. 

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YeenaDeena In reply to AlphaAreus [2019-02-10 20:35:31 +0000 UTC]

I don't know. Millie annoys me, mostly because my favourite character is Silverstream..

I hate those people

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-10 22:59:43 +0000 UTC]

if it weren't for Millie though, Graystripe would have died.

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YeenaDeena In reply to AlphaAreus [2019-02-11 08:01:10 +0000 UTC]

Then he would be with Silverstream, which is what I want. Besides, I don't like Graystripe... Also he should die, not just because I hate him, but because he is old af

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AlphaAreus In reply to YeenaDeena [2019-02-11 08:37:35 +0000 UTC]

True. 
And i agree. Poor old bloke...

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leafpool4life247 In reply to YeenaDeena [2018-11-03 14:39:21 +0000 UTC]

Harsh. I agree with you that Honeyfern died for nothing, but Briarlight is amazing! (In my opinion, anyways.) I used to hate Millie so freaking much... But then I read Graystar's (Yea, I think he should have been leader, deal with it.) adventure, and I realized how far she would go to be with Graystripe. 

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icerose20 [2018-08-10 11:09:59 +0000 UTC]

I have to point out that Millie has no grounds to make the assumption that Blossomfall was wasting her time, unless she was out in the forest observing Ivypool and Blossomfall. If that was the case then why didn't she stop them from going into the tunnel?
I do not think that her scolding of Blossomfall was justified by any means.

She jumps to a conclusion without asking what happened or how they got hurt. If someone from your family came home injured after missing for hours, would you assume they were playing around?

I also agree with you that Erin Hunter should have added a scene that brought closure to the matter.

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Mellowix In reply to icerose20 [2018-09-17 20:07:50 +0000 UTC]

Millie has every right and in fact should, scold her reckless adult daughter. Millie already had enough to deal with Briarlight being at risk of dying every day, so she thought she should reply on her Adult children, to well, act like adults. They were on a hurting patrol during Leaf-bare, expected to feed their struggling Clan. And they'd also been warned about entering the Tunnels in a Clan meeting, when Icecloud almost dislocated her shoulder when falling in one. Yet here are, Ivypool and Blossomfall, fully grown warriors; abandoning their duties, wasting an entire afternoon of hurting, ignoring a very clear warning, risking their lives for no reason and make the entire Clan waste their time by searching for them. In fact, a rockslide almost fell on Blossomfall, scratching her leg.  Blossomfall's poor family has enough to worry without her rushing off and being a complete moron.

It was a fact that Ivypool and Blossomfall were doing nothing but messing around when they entered those Tunnels. Reread the scene, it's not accumulation.   

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icerose20 In reply to Mellowix [2018-10-02 23:34:31 +0000 UTC]

Like I pointed out before and I will point out again, Millie has no idea that Blossomfall and Ivypool were in the tunnels or how they spent that morning. For all she knows they might have encountered danger. We, the readers know that Blossomfall and Ivypool were in the tunnels, Millie does not!!

I am not denying that what they did was stupid. I pointing out that Millie drew a conclusion with no evidence.

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