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Just a little sketch from a stolen (or borrowed) idea until the person I stole it from does her own versionThis is an epic meeting of two ancient enemies - the desert saint and the dessert saint...they will do battle eventually and it is said that when they meet the sky will darken (or turn pudding-coloured, at least) and frogs (frog legs particularly) will drop from the sky and the end will be nigh
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nitah [2008-11-25 15:09:05 +0000 UTC]
der rechte lΓΆwe...! der ist einfach hinreissend!
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charonferryman In reply to WhoKilledGoethe [2008-11-25 22:00:56 +0000 UTC]
Danke Dave Wie geht's dir - schon lange nichts mehr gehΓΆrt...
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barbarasobczynska [2008-11-24 19:30:17 +0000 UTC]
haha, oh, that's awesome I especially like how you drew the face of a dessert saint who looks like a hybrid between some pudgy Buddha, some Epicurus'-follower, and my lovely physics-teacher from primary school
I mean the desert saint is also awesome, but to be honest -
I'm just not particularly fond of the way you draw shades, i prefer your linearts , and the clean lineart of the dessert saint's face is really nicely drawn
not to mention the superb 2 lions placed somehow contrastingly to the human couple - one lion starved yet childlikely cheerful and the other fat and nonchalantly lazy - beautifully finish up the whole funny composition
I'd bet the author of the idea will think the picture does the idea justice and makes its absolutely sufficient illustration
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-24 21:02:34 +0000 UTC]
By the way: did you notice what the desert saint is eating Mouthwatering, isn't it?
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-24 21:31:49 +0000 UTC]
haha aww, i see he's eating desert roots
(
pardon me but at first i thought he's carrying some worms
)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-24 22:30:14 +0000 UTC]
Real desert root for a real desert saint (and the dessert saint's hair looks a little like cream with a cherry top
)
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 08:38:10 +0000 UTC]
oh, yes, i noticed i also like the hair of the desert saint a lot, he looks like he was hairdressed by the same hairdresser that was responsible for A.Einstein's hairstyle, only now experimenting with Mohawk hairstyle a bit
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 11:52:36 +0000 UTC]
Einstein's Mohawk...a left over from his punk years...I'm sure right at the edge of the desert there's a little hairdresser's shop for all the aggrieved desert saints who wake up with sand and thorns in their hair
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-24 20:57:33 +0000 UTC]
The desert saint is a "classic" sort of face the way I draw it
But I like the dessert saint as well, the lineart is a little more loose and fluid...(your physics teacher?
)
Erm...you're the author of the idea, so I'm glad that you indirectly think it's absolutely sufficient
(still waiting for your version, though
)
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-24 21:28:50 +0000 UTC]
yes, we had such a superb eldery physics teacher in primary school, he was really insanely funny,greatly explainging physics, and even explaining his young students that with a piece of uranium or plutonium one can even construct a simple atom bomb in one's bathroom as a young villain obviously i was enamoured with a teacher who was telling us such things
during tests if someone was trying to ask him about something that's in a test he was always funnily pretending he was just a tidying-person and that he knows nothing of physics
anyways he looked a lot like that dessert saint
erm, i'm still waiting for an appropriate male model to pose for me dressed in just cream & cocktail cherry in the dunes
otherwise i'm not ever going to make a "dessert father"picture
:grumpy: (
*hint,hint*)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-24 22:32:49 +0000 UTC]
Hidden by Owner
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 10:08:52 +0000 UTC]
you see, all fired up by the topic of spinsters i forgot to tell you good morning i hope the morning has indeed been good so far, that you ate your Honigbrot, combed your hips, fed the Annoying Cat and so on
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 11:47:14 +0000 UTC]
I should comb the Annoying Cat instead, since he started a Rastafarian look at the nape of his tail...
Good morning By the way, I think one isn't a spinster until 50 at least, so you're at best a half-spinster and a not very convincing one at that
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 13:16:30 +0000 UTC]
in Poland it starts a bit earlier it seems, after passing 30 usually, but sometimes ones that are totally past hope when it comes to ever finding a man of their life (because of immense ugliness, intensely difficult personality or intense lack of luck in love matters,or some different multiple reasons, or all of the above vide*Basia-AlmostTheBrave for instance
) tend to be treated as spinsters 'in spe'
practically even earlier heh, you see i've just recently read a funnily bittersweet "I'm a Spinster" manifesto'journal on that nasty phenomenon by one - immesely talented btw - girl [link] so you see since it's a burning problem for some, the whole negative-spinsterhood-dialectic, let's just maybe refrain from using the term in a negative meaning (I mean at least until it becomes popularized with a new positive meaning by a new generation of cheerful humorious spinsters,eh?
)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 15:37:07 +0000 UTC]
You fisher-for-compliments, you, certainly not ugly at all and only a little difficult and certainly too much self-pitying You will lead an army of cheerful spinsters, but then you'll find someone and will betray all of your followers most tragically
(and don't even dare to give me a more self-pitying response
)
Funnily enough the only thing that seems to be expected of people in their middle thirties in Austria is that they have had at least one divorce (I suppose in countries where family values are more important, there is obviously more pressure to have a family) From my family I'm not exactly predestined for an easy time - my father was married four times and my mother never (
Your deductive skills will have led you to the conclusion that my parents were never married
)
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 18:24:07 +0000 UTC]
haha that would be hillarious (and very nasty) if i betrayed the community of cheerful spinsters like that, being its leader, fortunately for my future followers though, this is very unlikely to happen
(it wasn't a more self-pitying responce
,was it? so i hope i escaped the dangerously looking bat happily
)
oh, i didn't know, well,but they have two beautiful sons(especially their first born son is particularly well-done i must say
) so it's like they formed some family nonetheless,at least in the face of Mother Nature,and obviously women who have children it's a whole new story - they are never treated like spinsters,even if they never marry, actually -when i come to think of it - from evolutionary reasons it's quite undestandable that spinsters are the most hated by the society kind of humans, 'cause bachelors may have sired some children even though they don't live with them nor take care of them which is common among men, but still they could have taken part in extending human race somehow, but a childless single woman it's like a slap in the face of Mother Nature,since it's clearly visible she never contributed to prolongation of the human kind existence
well,of course it's a very pessimistic naturalistic way of seeing things, besides civilisation gives also two other basic ways of life for single women that are more or less socially acceptable and let one to avoid falling into the spinsterhood-stereotype-bucket - becoming a saint(usually a nun) or a whore, or (a rather new option,and not really socially accepted yet) a lesbian, well, I'd say devoting life to art or literature or some different form of creation that gives the others (that could have fallen into depression and kill themselves for instance, without art or literature, or philosophy or poetry etc.) will to live, and consequently - love and make new humans is also an indirect contribution to further extending of the human kind, but it seems not all people believe in such a real influence of art on humans and that may be a reason why for instance being an artist or a writer while being an eldery unmarried childless woman still doesn't let one escape the "spinster" stereotype, and unfortunately i tend to notice such women(even if they are great and talented) are often treated in a mildly offensive condescending way(which is just an adult more sophisticated way of making fun of them,like children do in primary and high school in relation to spinster-teachers), they just don't treat them not as seriously as married(or non-single) women or as men(wih men the problem doesn't really exist, single men are basically treated as seriously as unmarried ones, maybe that's why you cannot fully sense all the discriminating nastiness of the spinsterhood-stereotype and you think I'm not really serious, just fishing for compliments, which I'm not, even if the problem doesn't relate to me that badly yet, but a few years more and I'll learn the same thing the hard way,I mean empirically not just by objective observation or other poor older spinsters
the petting was adressed to the poor ol' spinsters of course, once I'll say "us poor ol' spinsters" or - if i manage to start a generation of cheerful spinsters
- "us happy funny spinsters"
)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 19:17:07 +0000 UTC]
The bat stays here - for precaution only (and of course I'll give it to your followers after the betrayal
)
Well, you create beautiful, uplifting and inspiring art (if you were to create erotic art, Poland would have a population explosion from people being "inspired" by your drawings, I'm sure )...and if there is one thing I wouldn't worry about is how "society at large" is treating you. I wonder who is going to treat spinster-like women like that? Their families? Random strangers? I mean it's just a stereotype not a description of a person and one can't really be offended or afraid of a stereotype - one can be amused for a moment, realizing "Oh my god, I'm acting like a stereotype" but then one goes back to the insanely complex process of living and acts unstereotypical 99 times out of 100.
People who are your friends will not treat you condescendingly, it doesn't matter who you are and how you behave (and even if they do, you can always prove them wrong) Besides once you're a cheerful spinster (short time, since the moment of betrayal looms, of course
) you will change Polish behaviour towards spinsters alltogether
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 19:35:11 +0000 UTC]
ah,friends, well,the problem is spinsters are often too bitter,hidden behind their coldness or too shy and socially-inept to even have friends
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 20:02:31 +0000 UTC]
Well, here is one friend for the wannabe-spinster erm, I mean...
(and friendly, businesslike
)
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 20:15:08 +0000 UTC]
oh,not enamoured anymore ex's are definitely no good material for friends for overly romantic wannabe-spinsters who normally have problems with moving on it only makes spinsters holding on to false hopes and wishful thinking and closed affairs
no good, no good at all,
but of course a friendly hairstroking is always welcome even from bussiness partners,especially if they're particularly talented in hairstroking
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 20:35:12 +0000 UTC]
Well, then have a stroking hand (they are now improved, so you can set the timer for as long or short as you like It's a good business idea, I think
)
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 21:34:15 +0000 UTC]
goodnight,Sebastian,I'll go to sleep early tonight i think please do let me know how it went with patenting a stroking hand with a timer
ciao dude
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-25 21:53:42 +0000 UTC]
Whoa...just returned from the patent office. There was a woman on night shift and she kept looking at the stroking hand as if she wanted one of her own right away...so I sold one to her, but of course I forgot about having it patented And it was the perfect opportunity...I'm sure next time there will be a grumpy man working in the office who'll look at my patent very angrily
Sleep well, Basia
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-26 15:10:01 +0000 UTC]
I hope you're having a good and apparently dA free day
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-26 21:32:39 +0000 UTC]
yep, I am, well in fact I've got a bit of a headache right now,and it's not nice to stare at the computer screen when your head aches,so ciao,goodnight
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-26 21:35:07 +0000 UTC]
Then I hope you'll be well again soon...try to get some fresh (cold) air tomorrow - maybe that helps
Thank you for writing all that criticism despite your splitting headache
Good night, Basia
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-26 21:40:18 +0000 UTC]
goodnight Sebastian
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-27 18:13:15 +0000 UTC]
By the way, since we were talking about films - do you know this film [link] ? It sounded vaguely interesting and I was wondering?
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-27 18:59:39 +0000 UTC]
nope, i don't, i mean i've heard about it - a couple of eldery people taking care of a camel, something like that, and i know screenplay is by Kieslowski, but I'm not especially fond of that Jerzy Stuhr, even though (or maybe precisely because of that) he's such a popular "guru" of Polish modern cinema and everybody praise him, and he behaves like such a know-it-all type, and maybe because he's too much "into comedies"
(when he was young though he played in a very funny sci-fi Polish comedy "Sexmission" about 2 men landing in a "future-world" without men ruled by just women [link] )
,or maybe because I just don't like to watch his face and hear his voice particularly much, and he's the director and one of two main actors in that film so if you want to watch a film about an eldery couple in hard times I'd rather suggest you watching the "When the Wind Blows" animation, I'd bet it's much much better(even though I haven't seen "The Big animal"
ah, prejudiced me), or when you desperately want to see a Polish film about a couple - "The Garden of Earthly Delights" by Lech Majewski is an interesting, but a very difficult neo-realistic film(and a kind of boring, even though critics say it's brilliant
)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-27 20:44:49 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I would probably react just as prejudiced if you asked me about a popular Austrian film (of course we're safe from that since there are no popular Austrian films or directors )
"Sexmission" Sound quite weirdly funny...
I recently noticed another film by Majewski called "Blood of a Poet"...after so many Polish films disapproved by you, I start to wonder what are the films that awaken your patriotism?
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-27 21:10:40 +0000 UTC]
not many, not many at all, my patriotism doesn't feed on Polish cinematography, definitely rather on literature
but there are a few Polish films i like
here's "A Short Film About Love" [link] and of course by Kieslowski I also adore first part of "Dekalog" for some reason (maybe because I watched it being very young, and in addition around Christmas time) the first part of Dekalog seems particularly dear and nostalgic to me, not as sad as the plot itself would imply,
I also like "Mother Joanna of the Angels" a lot and actually find it a pretty creepy movie, with a very peculiar atmosphere, scary in a very distinguished "white" way, because the film is very "bright" somehow, there's a lot of white, and yet it is a very dark sad film , I couldn't find its trailer unfortunately, but here's a tribute video made of pieces of the film, and i think it gives one the atmosphere of the film, [link] I hope you'll like it I also liked dorota Kedzierzawska's film "The Crows" about two little parentless girls (I couldn't find a trailer neither, so here's a tribute video to the movie [link] ), there was also a Polish film "Brute" which was overall very mediocre but had a superb music by Michal Lorenc here's the most famous piece from the soundtrack [link] ) well,of course I love pretty much all Kieslowski's movies, but those like "3 colours", since they're done mainly in French" I don't consider them Polish movies that much, but of course "Blue" for instance is superb, have you seen it? I actually also do like "Double life of Veronique" even though some people are not as fond of it as of other Kieslowski's movies
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-27 22:15:43 +0000 UTC]
"Mother Joanna of the Angels" looks mesmerizing...beautiful images and I liked the strange, scary voice singing over the clip...the clip from "Wrony" looked beautiful as well (and I know another film by D.Kedzierzawska called "Pora Umierac" - I have it somewhere here but haven't watched it yet)...I must admit I haven't seen anything by Kieslowski - the closest I came was "Heaven" which was made after one of his scripts, I think I'll have to amend that soon...Just listening to the music from Brute which is lovely
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-27 22:46:04 +0000 UTC]
oh, but "Heaven" is not really Kiesliowski, you know, there is much more of Tykwer than of Kieslowski in that film i think,
from Kieslowski-"Bleu",oh, gosh, I nearly envy you never watching "Bleu",it's such a beautiful film, I wish i've never watched it yet, and "La double vie de Veronique" are a total must I think(big part of action of "The Double Life Of Veronique" takes place in Krakow
), "The Short Film About Love" is also beautiful,and as i said i adore the first part of Dekalog most, the one illustrating (very subtely)"You shall have no other gods before me"
oh, yes, I'm happy you agree about the music from "Brute"
awesome,isn't it?
oh, "Pora Umierac" ("Time to die")? I've heard it's a great(and contrary to the title -pretty optimistic and full of life - they say) movie, wih a superb role of the main heroine,but i haven't watched it yet
and yes, "Mother Joanna of the Angels" is amazingly picturesque film, each scene is like a black&white painting, it is incredibly classily filmed movie, easthetically it really is breathtaking and beautifully ascetic and somehow geometric movie
still i think Kieslowski's movies depict Polish spirit, i mean the best of Polish spirit more, with all its sadness,nostalgia,mysticism,tragism,sense of poetry better,well,Kieslowski was a cinematographic genius i think so of course it's an overly proud statement to say Kieslowski's films reflect Polish nature, while they reflect even more at some points,i mean they are absolutely universal well,you can tell I am a Kieslowski-fan I suppose
but Kawalerowicz's "Mother Joanna" is also a masterpiece(although not all Kawalerowicz's movies are, well"Pharaoh" is also good but it's visible that it's done very long ago, and is not so up-to-date, while "Mother Joanna..." is ageless of course
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-25 20:53:15 +0000 UTC]
the bussiness idea is perfect
you should run to the patent office right now and get it patented
go go go Sebastian, maybe it's not too late
, at what time do they close patent offices in Austria?
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-28 14:51:07 +0000 UTC]
A late good morning and good day to you Maybe you remember the local travel guide that I was supposed to be writing or co-writing? I got a call today for a preliminary meeting to talk abot what we want to put into it, so maybe it will actually happen at some point
I hope the world is still safe and you didn't give birth to evil dream messiah, so I still get to work on that at least
Have a great day, Basia.
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-28 15:31:40 +0000 UTC]
that would be awesome!let's hope it will actually happen at some point
awww, you mean you hope i didn't give birth to an evil messiah yet, 'cause if not you'd like to help me work on that? you mean to help me to give birth to an evil messiah?
(
mwahahaha! perfect,of course you can work on that any time
...hmmm,i mean of course i fear a progeny of such an unserious playful creature as yourself could possibly have enough of dark genes to become an evil messiah
but with all my purely demoniac genes i think still there would be a chance we could have some demoniac children
and even if not,oh well,activities leading to numerous evil or semi-evil babies with you would be enjoyable enough*hint,hint*
*Basia in a saucy Friday-night mood* just kidding, you too have a great evening and weekend,Sebastian
)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-28 20:23:04 +0000 UTC]
I couldn't access dA for half a day and what do I find now that I can?...a pervert!
I meant I want to do work before the world ends
...not all that naughty stuff
(Now I feel like the priest foot
)
Besides, I don't think I could raise evil children...I'd just make them good by allowing them everything and so they'd end up too bored by their father to actually do anymore world-enslaving things Or I would design a playfully evil education for them
Have a good saucy evening then, Basia
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-28 20:41:52 +0000 UTC]
yep, you write like you go for winning a contest for the most hopeless pansy ever i remember even when i a few times offerred Ken being a father of a bunch of our possibly genius bilingual children he never ever answered in such a pansy-like manner "all that naughty stuff
"
you're slowly turning into your left ascetic foot i see
*
have a nice pansy-like evening,you silly creature*goes to a sperm-bank to find some possibly darker genes*
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-28 21:04:45 +0000 UTC]
Well, perhaps it is time for the biker foot, then *prances around and s everything in sight* If you had offered genius biligual evil messiah children I might have reconsidered
Evil messiah children are just too predictable if they only speak one language (besides I still don't know when it's safe to answer you in properly
terms again you know
)
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-28 21:38:59 +0000 UTC]
oh, it's absolutely safe to answer me in "" terms, they don't make me amorous,just humorious and carefreely flirty, i observe generally talking seriously and wisely about serious things makes me amorous in general, so if you want to be safe from my amorous moods without putting me in bad mood at the same time you should write unseriously (like you already are writing most of the time
) and silly-saucily-flirtatously(you have to work on it
,mister,if not in relation to me then at least to some other more attractive girls, in order not to turn into an awfully asexual unflirty creature
)
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-28 22:17:51 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I was mostly careful because I thought it might put you in a bad mood...it's much better to be able to be flirty and silly, really...now I'm relieved...I have to work to get back in silly, flirtatious mood, true
*goes off to read de Sade and watches "educational" material*
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barbarasobczynska In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-28 22:26:05 +0000 UTC]
good boy!
goodnight then,not so badlily-pansy-like-creature
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charonferryman In reply to barbarasobczynska [2008-11-28 22:54:05 +0000 UTC]
Goodnight, you mother of many future evil messiahs
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Lechtonen [2008-11-24 19:29:12 +0000 UTC]
This is what I call mythic resonance.
No, really, it's always a joy looking at your linework.
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charonferryman In reply to Lechtonen [2008-11-24 20:58:03 +0000 UTC]
The first Fibaburn illustration is up next...
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Lechtonen In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-24 20:59:12 +0000 UTC]
I'm so looking forward to it
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charonferryman In reply to Lechtonen [2008-11-24 21:14:29 +0000 UTC]
I just went through your requests again...I'll start with the group of Tsachor warriors as this is the less demanding image (although I still think it will take me at least a week, probably longer considering the amount of time I have available for drawing right now)...tell me a bit about them - what are they fighting for/against?
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Lechtonen In reply to charonferryman [2008-11-24 21:45:17 +0000 UTC]
P'chach Tsach P'chach Tsach see themselves as fighting for "tsachor", which is a concept that refers to their tradition and mode of proper behaviour. However, from outside, this group seems fanatical. Most tsachors don't react that way when the colonial forces step on their land. They are usually much more indifferent, or at least un-organized in their resistance.
The colonial powers consist of several competing merchant and noble alliances that come from technologically advanced kingdoms and empires. They have bronze and iron weapons, large ships and developed systems of trade and social control.
They come to "Tsachoria" to steal "ichor" from the land. It's substance that can be used in various ways to create magical effects. It's one of the most valuable resources in the current international politics. Most tsachor tribes don't understand the causalities in work here, although they might spontaneously protect their holy lands, whenever they are falling under colonial abuse.
In practice P'chach Tsach P'chach Tsach are bandits who operate in difficult terrain and try to make sure the orcs, humans, elves, dwarves and other foreign people can't sleep in peace in their little colonial fortresses.
Ask more!
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