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kaaslave [2014-11-23 08:29:19 +0000 UTC]
If all these guys fought, I think it'd boil down to Neo vs. Freddy. (Or maybe Neo vs. Pinhead.)
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Chellsshade In reply to kaaslave [2019-04-26 12:20:51 +0000 UTC]
In the Matrix, Neo wins. In the Dream-realm, Freddy has it. I the real world... yeah I think it goes to Pinhead.
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SilentGuy2011 In reply to camilopezo [2013-11-18 18:41:57 +0000 UTC]
That's what I thought too when I looked up D&D alignments on Wikipedia, Riddick is classified as chaotic evil, and Jack Sparrow is chaotic neutral.
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Chellsshade In reply to SilentGuy2011 [2014-01-24 14:04:49 +0000 UTC]
Even though Riddick is painted as dark and malevolent, his actions do not hold true for a Chaotic Evil character.
Riddick is a killer. Ok so virtually every other action hero. Arnold's body count not including Terminator has got to be in the hundreds and yet he is rarely depicted as evil. Riddick fights when the fight is brought to him. Evil seeks conflict. Riddick doesn't.
His protectiveness of Jack/Kyra also does not fit an evil character. She doesn't give him anything an evil character would value (wealth, service, sex, ... possibly worship). I just can't see an evil character going through all he did for her without a bigger payoff.
At the end of Pitch Black, all he had to do was sit tight and he had his escape ship. Instead he wades back out into the hoard of monsters to save Fry. That is definitely not evil.
Even though Riddick's PR tells the audience he is a bad guy, I can't think of one overtly evil act he commits. I don't count killing those hunting him or to protect Kyra as evil. He doesn't torture. He doesn't kill bystanders. He doesn't rape. He is morally questionable about possessions and takes what he wants but to me that is Chaotic far more than it is Evil.
I think a character who just wants to be left alone is a perfect example of Chaotic Neutral.
1) Everything is all about him.
2) The rules don't apply to him.
3) He is not above causing harm or doing good as long as it suits his interests.
4) Like some animals, he is vicious when cornered but leave him alone and he leaves you alone.
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Omega-Killer In reply to SilentGuy2011 [2014-01-03 04:39:17 +0000 UTC]
I seem to be a little late in discovering this, but the quote for Neo isn't classified as Chaotic Good, it's classified as Chaotic Neutral.
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Omega-Killer In reply to SilentGuy2011 [2014-01-03 18:07:05 +0000 UTC]
Chaotic Neutral is all about freedom. So in a sense, saying that Neo is trying to free everyone from the program's control is a Chaotic Neutral alignment.
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SilentGuy2011 In reply to Omega-Killer [2014-01-03 21:22:33 +0000 UTC]
I see where you're coming from now Chaotic good and chaotic neutrals both follow their heart in what's right and wrong and disregards rules and traditions and their methods are generally disorganized, but the difference is Chaotic Neutrals focus on their freedom first before others and they are known to be unreliable. Chaotic goods oppose rules and traditions not just for their own good, but for everyone else, and their intentions are good even though they tend to be unorthodox like chaotic neutrals.
So, to be honest with you, Neo's quote at the end of the first Matrix movie is more aligned with the chaotic good alignment, because he is telling whoever controls the machines that he will show everyone a world where anything is possible, breaking the laws and traditions the machines made in the Matrix to keep humans in line. I can't view this as chaotic neutral because Neo isn't putting his freedom first before everyone else. Keep in mind that chaotic neutral aligned people are generally individualists.
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Chellsshade In reply to SilentGuy2011 [2014-01-24 14:08:15 +0000 UTC]
I could not have said it better. I person who wants to tear down the system is Chaotic. The question then becomes why. The desire to "show these people" is what made me think CG over CN.
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SilentGuy2011 In reply to Chellsshade [2014-01-25 12:58:29 +0000 UTC]
I thought so. you made the right call.
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Freyad-Dryden [2013-09-05 01:39:15 +0000 UTC]
You know, the Lawful Evil one might be the most appropriate match ever.
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Chellsshade In reply to Freyad-Dryden [2013-09-09 11:44:48 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. I wish I could have found a better quote for him though. For a character with as introspective dialog as he has you would think I could find a better LE quote. The problem is he doesn't see himself as LE so many of his great lines contradict his actual alignment.
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Freyad-Dryden In reply to Chellsshade [2013-09-09 17:14:02 +0000 UTC]
I think that quote fits it best. "These are the rules, I follow them. It doesn't matter what you think about it." That's the best summary of lawful evil you can get.
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