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Cid-Vicious — Life in the Ghetto - now without colors
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Just because something REALLY look more dramatic in black-and-whiteColored version: [link]
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The colored version was great, but this transcends. There is more sunken-ess. Did you make a series out of this?
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Thanks. Actually, I did. I intended to make a picture for each chapter if the author could get them translated to Portuguese (I'm Brazilian and at time to read it in English was kind of exhausting). But there is also sketches through my gallery.
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I am very impressed. This is a tough subject matter to handle well. I still feel the best rendition was Spiegle's Maus. But kudos to you so far.
Wish I could speak Portuguese. I speak some Spanish and am fluent in English and Hebrew. But alas no Portueguese.
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Thank you. Before reading "Maus", my main inspiration to make this series were "Schindler's List" and "The Pianist". I always search for references for historical themes to make them look like the period portrayed, especially in this case. And after reading "Maus," I think it's one of the best books I have ever read. What I liked most is that Vladek Spiegelman is a human being: cantankerous, racist, bourgeois... Anyway, he is authentic, not just your average flawless hero
I also understand some Spanish, or at least enough to talk to some pilgrims during World Youth Day (I have never seen so many Argentines in Rio before!). But now my English is much better, as you can see. Hebrew? Wow!
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Schindler's list was very good. I have yet to see the Pianist. Life is Beautiful was ok. Of course there is all of the documentary footage that the Nazis themselves filmed. I never understood why they did that, except maybe they thought they were invincible and wanted to record their "greatest gift to mankind"? Sick.
Yes we are all human and therefore flawed. I agree that flawless heroes are at best boring, and at worst an embarrassment to whatever cause they espouse. Didn't the Cardinals in Spain in 1492 consider themselves flawless? As did the Nazis, the Puritans, the etc etc etc of myriads of idiots that think their way of life is the only way? The Kabbalah holds that evil was born when Adam ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and not of the tree of life because he then created an imbalance that led to discernment without compassion. Without the ability to modulate discernment, knowledge turns severe and becomes judgement unrestrained. To the Kabbalists, this was the source of all evil, the lack of divine balance.
I grew up bilingual in Hebrew and English, so it doesn't feel that special to me.
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Well, let us not forget that we cannot judge yesterday's people by our current concepts. Do you think the Ku Klux Klan would not have built their own version of Auschwitz in the Deep South to ensure the supremacy of the white race if they had the chance to do so? And according to the concepts of the 1930s, minorities were not even considered human beings, and as murder is only when a human being kills another human being... About about all the footage on it, it's normal for criminals (mostly psychopaths or those motivated by a "sense of duty") to keep the memory of their deeds: long spoke of an alleged photo of Tsar Nicholas II and his family riddled with bullets after their execution in 1918. Why, after all, the Revolution would love to have a photo of four innocent girls and the hemophiliac 14 year-old crown prince murdered in the name of its so glorious principles... And let's not even mention the hundreds of other psychopaths who are out there like Charles Manson.
Beautiful theory. But what I think is that evil itself is the inability of human beings to act according to the principles of Humanity, without succumbing to animalistic impulses that lead to all sorts of deeds that will one day culminate in the atrocities of which we spoke in paragraph above.
Oh, yes... But still, for me, to have knowledge in any language so complicated is something worth mentioning
Thank you. I've learned over the years on the internet, and recently found out that I can also have a conversation face-to-face! Yes, moreso: Portuguese as well as Spanish, French, Italian and even bloody Romanian have the same root: the Latin language. That's why we're called "Latin peoples". But still doesn't mean I can understand Romanian!
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Oh I agree with you in part about judging yesterday by today's standards. I think some things are beyond the pale though of any age. For example, Twain's use of the word Nigger in The adventures of Huck Finn is not inappropriate, as it was the custom of the times. Blacks being beaten though, while pervasive, was still morally wrong. Even some people at the time felt it wrong. So to excuse it on the basis of they did not know better, seems to me, to be incorrect. Not everyone in the 30's would have agreed about the human being thing, so... I do think there are some things that transcend relativism.
As for the KKK, thankfully they did not have the power (or perhaps criminal intelligence) to do that. But you are very right. Anyone can become such a monster. It is not the provence of a single group, nor are any groups immune from the ability to become so.
Yeah, I know, lots of psychopaths keep momentos. It still seems weird to me, and I am a psychiatrist.
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This reminds me of something I read: one of the defenses used by slavers was a religious rhetoric that preached that since Blacks were pagans, their soul could only be saved by the service to the Christian white man and the rejection of their "innate bestiality". According to those who believed it - or at least it used to mask one ruthlessly practical side - slavery and segregation were the way of the white man helping his Black brothers in Christ.
About Twain and polictical correctness screwing historical fidelity, it crosses a little with Maus: many people didn't like it because, according to Art Spiegelman on a page, Vladek matches the greedy Jew caricature to a T, to which his stepmother agrees, saying Vladek feels "physical pain" for spending a dime. The point is that if that was how Vladek really was, so that's how he should be portrayed, instead of cutting his "less pleasant aspects" to make him "acceptable". These imperfections makes he look even better when we look at his sweet moments with his first wife
Well, I never said that certain things should be forgiven because at the time were considered "normal" by most people in the past. Right and wrong depend on a very basic sense, but in the end are defined by the will of the majority and customs, although viewers from outside disagree or even some opposition raises within the majority group. In Nazi Germany, for example, there was national resistance against Hitler, even people who in the end weren't affected by the racist policies of the government, but so knew that to exterminate minorities just for being different was and is morally wrong. Things like the Holocaust can be understood according to the context of the time, but can never be forgiven since they are still morally wrong by today and yesterday's standards.
Or perhaps the way things work already met their goal, after all, lynchings - especially in the 1910s, also known as the Nadir - were public events where even children should attend to learn the "natural order of things". Sure, there are a whole myriad of psychological, behavioral and environmental factors to consider, but let's face it: it seems that some people are simply born that way (they have a loving family, a decent house... And yet go in a killing spree!). Just makes everything more frightening and unpredictable
Really? How interesting!
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