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Ok, so I've been doing this picture for about 2 and a half months on and off and I cant do it no more! This pic has been a battle of determination, sometimes I look at it and think 'yeah I like that' then I look at it again and think 'no, dont like that at all'.__
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As I said above this pic has been a struggle, I'm not normally this daring with the angle and I would kinda just like a constructive overhaul on it! But I appreciate that's a lot to ask!
So I would be grateful for any suggestions on the following;
Lighting
Composition
Did I manage to create any depth
Is the picture too busy
Does it work as a whole
Thank you
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Comments: 81
BloodBanePhage [2009-10-20 18:35:18 +0000 UTC]
Alrighty, here we go.
Lighting
I like it for the most part. Although the right wing is partially obsured by what looks by leaves that overshadow it. In my opinion, if they are flying up, then a swarm of leaves should not be obscuring that much of his wing. Those leaves would not cast shadows with all the indirect lighting either.
Composition
A winged figure holding a woman and flying straight up? I think that is an interesting subject matter. With his slight blush and her wonder, it adds a strong emotional element to the image as well.
In my opinion, you did very well in this department. (though I could have handled a few less leaves to distract from the two characters)
Did I manage to create any depth?
Most definitely. There are the leaves right up close to the camera in yellows and oranges; one in focus, but the others mainly too close to see well. (very good)
Then there are the characters in the midground. They are the focus and center of the image. (brown leaves obscuring his wings are distracting, and throw off the sense of realistic depth)
Finally, there is what looks like a grassy field beneath them, or perhaps an open park. By the lack of detail on the grass (only blended patches of color) it appears they have ascended to a modest height at the moment of this image.
Is the picture too busy?
They are in motion as are their surroundings... so, it is fine that it is busy and blurred around the border of the image. The only things that need to be in focus are the characters faces and the space between their faces. This gives the illusion that the camera is on them and they are the focus of the image, while the blur and distortion around the characters gives the illusion of movement. (the wings could be a little more directionally blurred to give more sense of a flapping motion)
Yeah, the leaves may not do much to enhance the characters, but it fills empty space with something that interests the eye. (that is great)
Just uncover the wing shadowed in brown leaves... The yellow leaves that float in front of the lens are fine though, as they are eye-catching and add to the depth.
Does it work as a whole?
Yes, I think it looks nice as a whole. Just uncover the wing shadowed in brown leaves, that is not so nice.
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Cookiepoppet In reply to BloodBanePhage [2009-10-22 00:02:14 +0000 UTC]
Thanks so much for the feedback! Its the first time I've tried something this big and daring (for me) and I really didn't know how to approach it, especially creating depth and lighting! At some point would love to attempt another, lol I may have this open for reference! Thanks!
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KawaiiHimeArtist [2009-10-20 02:37:53 +0000 UTC]
I love how their expressions are like they are letting go of the worry. I think the angle is great and the back ground looks amazing. =]
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Cookiepoppet In reply to KawaiiHimeArtist [2009-10-20 10:56:51 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much!
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KawaiiHimeArtist In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-21 01:10:45 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome! =]
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Rijio [2009-10-19 21:11:23 +0000 UTC]
Okey~ Time for some feedback!
First up it's really good, it deserves a warm and friendly fav+
I especially like the way you made the colors it's both vivid and moving!
You made an awesome job on the composition as well as on the character, I love the softness of the emotion <3
You worked the leaves very well and again it gives the impression of movement which myself I wish I could do.
My advice on this one would be to try to work a bit more on the wings as they look a bit stiff compared to the rest but still is overall a very good submission!
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Rijio [2009-10-20 11:08:27 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! Yeah I'll do that, I'm forever drawing angels and I'm still trying to nail realistic looking wings, I think your right about them seeming stiff I'll try be a lot looser with them next time!
Thank you for the feedback!
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Lukis24 [2009-10-19 20:51:18 +0000 UTC]
You did a good job on blurring out the background to make it look like they are flying. I think the angel that is flying's eyes, they look a little droopy and big.
Lighting: the lighting is good. It seems to only be visible really in the middle of the picture though.
Depth: The depth is very, very good. The only thing I can point out is that the girl's hair should be falling down, it looks like it's falling to the side.
Hope this helps, great peice
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Lukis24 [2009-10-20 11:21:38 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! I really did struggle with his face you can see how much its changed from the orig pic [link] his eyes looked way bigger than the girls so I tried to make them smaller, but it didn't work so well!
And yeah, looking at it now maybe her hair is a bit too much anti-gravity!
Thanks for the feedback!
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epic-bando88 [2009-10-19 20:50:06 +0000 UTC]
I think you pulled off the angle well!!! just work on the expressions abit because the guy looks a tad... high. Great job with the coloring and nearly everything else!
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Cookiepoppet In reply to epic-bando88 [2009-10-20 11:30:02 +0000 UTC]
Hee he he yeah that was an accident that I couldn't seam to fix he looked ok in the original pic [link] it went wrong as I was colouring then I tried to fix it, but I think I made it worse!
Thanks for commenting!
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epic-bando88 In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-20 20:38:09 +0000 UTC]
haha!
you're welcome!
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EquinaSephine [2009-10-19 20:17:09 +0000 UTC]
I quite like how you did this composition, especially how you placed the figures in the middle ground, and the illusion of speed.
I also wish to say this picture definitely is not to busy, and has a lot of depth.
Good work
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Cookiepoppet In reply to EquinaSephine [2009-10-20 11:40:06 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much, that's good to hear as I'm never sure when to stop adding stuff to pics!
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edgeraven [2009-10-19 20:11:24 +0000 UTC]
From #GimmeFeedback .
This is quite well done, overall -- at least, I think so. It is much better than I would have managed.
However, I think actually that the diagaonal hilighting is a bit of the busiest part of it. Why is it there? Is it supposed to show movement?
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Cookiepoppet In reply to edgeraven [2009-10-20 11:56:59 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the feedback! No I was trying to create fractured light like it was coming out through the leaves, but I didn't really know how to go about it hence why its so bold, its the first time I've tried to include light as a feature not just for shading reference!
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SHO111 [2009-10-19 20:05:42 +0000 UTC]
Well, I absolutely love the angle! It's amazing! You did a great job! And as for feed back:
I feel like there is too much going around but then again when something takes flight the rustle of the wings will make things messy. So I do and then I don't feel like there's too much going on. The male's face however seems a little...eh...weird. The female's face is gorgeous and I love her expression. Great job overall.
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Cookiepoppet In reply to SHO111 [2009-10-20 12:03:18 +0000 UTC]
Lol that's exactly my feelings on the pic too, I like it but I don't like it at the same time, and yeah your right the guys face got a little smooched while I was colouring then I couldn't sort it out afterward, I think he looked ok in the orig drawing [link]
Thank you very much for commenting!
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SHO111 In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-20 23:26:59 +0000 UTC]
You're very welcome! It was my pleasure.
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zooha [2009-10-19 19:04:08 +0000 UTC]
really cool i like it a lot but it kind of hurts the eye because everything is blurred so maybe only blur the things that are above them and as it gets closer to them unblur it and add more details to the ground so itll look like their flying up and not just a collage of stuff. hopefully that will help because this is a really pretty drawing
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Cookiepoppet In reply to zooha [2009-10-20 12:18:58 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I did wonder if I should have done something more with the ground, but I never really know what to do with backgrounds, lol usually I leave them out and just have colours!
Thanks for the feedback!
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OoOEmotionOoO [2009-10-19 17:03:30 +0000 UTC]
The colour-use and lighting looks fine to me.
The only thing that is bothering me a bit is that the guy looks pretty stoned. xD
Other then that I find it awesome that you dared to make such a huge piece.
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Cookiepoppet In reply to OoOEmotionOoO [2009-10-19 22:16:13 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for commenting! Ha ha!! Yeah, I'm with you there, that was the point where I decided to give up! If you check the orig drawing [link] his face is fine, it got messed up as I was colouring, then I just couldn't sort it out!
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OoOEmotionOoO In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-20 11:58:00 +0000 UTC]
haha I know how that goes! I have the same problem sometimes >.<
It's still a very cool picture ^^
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Cookiepoppet In reply to OoOEmotionOoO [2009-10-20 12:07:04 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Lol definitely gonna be a while before I try something this big again!
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OoOEmotionOoO In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-20 12:10:03 +0000 UTC]
I never created something this big.
I'm a whimp -_-..
That plus, I'm lazy as hell xD
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Kanille-Hime [2009-10-19 16:53:25 +0000 UTC]
Composition, depth and ligthing are pretty good I think. But it's a bit too busy for me. All the leaves blur the charas a little too much.
By the way, you did a great job with the girl hair !
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Kanille-Hime [2009-10-19 22:23:33 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, I did the girls hair after the guys so I got the hang of it by then!
I never really do environments for my pics as I don't know what to put in them, ill defiantly try tone it down next time!
Thanks for commenting!
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Kanille-Hime In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-21 16:40:36 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome !
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Wheatart [2009-10-19 16:14:01 +0000 UTC]
Firstly, I have to say I love crazy angles! The dangerous one with this is deciding whether they are lying down or spinning. I like the leaves blowing across, and I think the one thing that might improve this pic is if some of the streaks of wind were whirling around the characters. I don't think wind blows straight very often. But that's jus tmy opinion.
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Wheatart [2009-10-19 22:36:26 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! Good point, I didn't actually think of what wind would be doing!! I kind of just picked a direction for the light and worked everything around that! Ill keep that in mind for next time, it just makes sense!
Thanks for commenting!
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gppr [2009-10-19 16:01:32 +0000 UTC]
I think you've covered the couple a little too much with falling objects. They are the focal point and some elements in front of them are making it hard to see their detail. The loose feathers are awesome I love how they become bigger and unfocused as they come closer to us (yes you've created the impression of movement for me). and so are a few of the leaves, but the thick patches of leaves are covering too much. I'd love to see their faces clearly and the wing on the left. We also need to see some blurred details on the ground far away to notice the depth. Very daring and nicely executed angle. I like the lighting, but I'd like to see it with less elements to give a better opinion. All in all, I think it does work as a whole.
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Cookiepoppet In reply to gppr [2009-10-20 12:25:18 +0000 UTC]
I did draw the first version of this with the intention of showing his entire wing span, but after I done it I decided I didn't like it so I changed it to how it is now. I've never attempted anything like the foreground before so I may have got a little carried away with the leaves!
Thanks for your comments!
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Lumysaara [2009-10-19 15:58:52 +0000 UTC]
i like the way the painting turned out, especially when it comes to those strikes that create the feeling of whirlwind and motion blur. also, there is a lot of depth in the image, due to the colors used and the well placed detail of the leaves in the foreground, opposed to the sharpness of the background.
in terms of composition, i think that it would look more balanced if the orange strip of cloth would be placed in the left side. to counterbalance the one in the right.
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Lumysaara [2009-10-19 22:49:38 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the feedback, I forgot to draw the loose cloth in with original pic, so I drew them later I photoshop and wasn't sure how to place them, looking at them now I think you are right!
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Langepon [2009-10-19 14:59:23 +0000 UTC]
Your couple seems to be flying or dancing, maybe both. Beautiful idea.
I must say, the the blurr is a little to strong here. The couple isnΒ΄t blurred at all, but looks like itΒ΄s in a rapid movement. IΒ΄m still thinkig whether this is okay and for some reason it seems to me, that photo artists must know this kind of topic well.
But the part, that bothers me the most is the leave texture in the background. They are not blurred and they donΒ΄t seem to be flying. But the couple is partly hidden by this texture. I suggest you use another texture with not so many leaves of you do as you have done with the single blurred leaves and make it on the whole picture like that.
If you have questions, donΒ΄t hesistate to ask. ^^
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Langepon [2009-10-20 12:30:33 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I'll try that, I must admit I didn't know what to do with the tree texture. I didn't know how to go about making it from scratch so I played with the pattern fills in photoshop! Same with the busy foreground I wasn't sure how to create depth, so I filled it and kept adding blur to the stuff closest to the front!
Thank you very much for the feedback!
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Langepon In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-20 14:08:07 +0000 UTC]
*reads the feedback from the others*...now IΒ΄ve got an idea. What about if you donΒ΄t delete the tree texture but make it part of the groung under the couple. I mean, they have to stand on something, donΒ΄t they?
And the busy foreground is good since it creates movement...but the others said that already XD
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Langepon [2009-10-21 23:46:38 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! You know what, I can see how that would work in my head and I think you're on to something there! I wasn't intending to go back to it but I might just have to play with that!
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Langepon In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-22 00:00:46 +0000 UTC]
Yessss, thatΒ΄s what I was waiting for! No, not the great return to the pic, I mean the brainwork! *laughes* I wonΒ΄t be in vain, I guarantee it. Every little try adds some points to the experience, doesnΒ΄t it?
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Langepon [2009-10-22 00:10:59 +0000 UTC]
Lol too true! You just get to a point where you don't know what your looking at anymore and need a fresh pair eyes!
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Langepon In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-22 14:20:06 +0000 UTC]
Flipping a picture sometimes helps to see the mistakes too. But IΒ΄m always horrified at what I see when I do it XD
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Cookiepoppet In reply to Langepon [2009-10-25 18:27:50 +0000 UTC]
Aah ha ha, yeah I know that feeling! I've done that with drawings before, but never with a coloured pic!
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Langepon In reply to Cookiepoppet [2009-10-25 19:00:35 +0000 UTC]
ItΒ΄s worse, trust me!! XD Naah, joke. It really helps with everything, from anatomy issues to colouring.
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dawnmist [2009-10-19 14:23:41 +0000 UTC]
Your experimentation paid off. This is lovely! I adore the colors and the people, and the faces look perfect. Stunning work here.
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