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Description So I finally finished something for this story. And it only took half a year!

Not even joking about that. This origin story idea has been in my mind (originally intended to be a fan fiction) pretty much unchanged since way back in May, so a few details are possibly slightly outdated. If you care at all about why it took me so long, or my extra thoughts on this thing look at this journal entry , because I don't want this description to become as long as the picture itself. I hope this comic is clear enough for people to understand my story from the picture alone, but there are also a lot of details I would have included in the written version that couldn't really make it into the comic form, even as large as this is.

I actually finished an earlier version of this more than a week ago. In that one, I used dialogue instead of narration, but I felt like it just wasn't working. The story was too condensed, so the dialogue felt forced. So now I have this slightly odd alternative, and I realize it looks a little awkward in a few places how the ponies are all just standing there. So keep in mind that they are conversing, just that anything they would have said in such a small space would have been pretty redundant to the narration, so I felt it was better to leave it out entirely and let their interactions be somewhat vague. At least that way I didn't have to worry about using Ye Olde Ponyish due to the Nightmare Night episode.

I don't think I could ever be completely satisfied with this, and there are still things that bother me about it, but it's a lot better than the other version, in my opinion. Bleh, though, this thing has been molding in my head for so long, I can't even tell anymore if the ideas I wanted to express came through at all. I really hope this thing makes sense and everything...I keep bouncing back and forth trying to decide if I mostly like how this turned out or not.

Last thing I want to mention here is about Luna and Celestia's friends. That was the one aspect of this project that most had me procrastinating and waffling around. I honestly wish I could have done this story without having to define them at all. I felt like the whole point of those characters is that everyone has friends and other loved ones who matter to them personally, but to others a few steps away they become an unknown piece of the collective whole. Who Luna and Celestia's long-ago friends may have been is important to them, but to an audience it's enough to simply have the idea of their friends, with their individual identities unknown. I had to portray them somehow, though, but didn't want to just make up a bunch of random OCs. So, the character designs of their friends are...complicated. I'll leave it at that for the moment. If you don't like how they look, just think of them as placeholders for ponies we don't know.

So, was it worth all the effort and time spent trying to figure out what to do with this idea? Hard to say...this is the sort of thing that makes me feel kinda nervous in a way I don't get from just a silly random joke picture. Probably should have just stuck with writing it instead of comic form. In any case, I don't think I'll be doing something this complicated again.

[November 24] Thanks muchly for all the positive feedback, all. It feels good to see my little story received so well, and I'm starting to feel like I should remove that paragraph about wondering whether this was worthwhile. So I really appreciate all the comments, even if I don't reply to each of them.
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Comments: 215

angelmar741 In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 04:32:35 +0000 UTC]

I was so confused at first bet then it made sense. There's that moment at towards the end when you're just like "ohhhhhh, I get it now." Really nice comic, the art looks on par with that of the show.

Nice job!

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blackblizzard95 [2011-11-24 04:03:36 +0000 UTC]

and then
THE INTERNET

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ShinjiNichida In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 03:25:25 +0000 UTC]

Just made me start to miss my friends

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Syntaxcapt In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 03:21:09 +0000 UTC]

Interesting dialogue, something to ponder on....

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Hmorris15 In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 03:00:07 +0000 UTC]

Worth the wait!

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DashieKitten [2011-11-24 02:57:01 +0000 UTC]

How is luna bigger than celestia in the last pane?

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ooOJuicyOoo In reply to DashieKitten [2011-11-24 03:53:58 +0000 UTC]

she's not. if you look carefully, they're exactly the same height. Celestia's head's partially covered by her crown-thingy though. ^^

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DashieKitten In reply to ooOJuicyOoo [2011-11-29 03:04:37 +0000 UTC]

Then how are they the same height? Luna is Celestia's lil' sis... so shouldn't Luna be smaller than Celestia?

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ooOJuicyOoo In reply to DashieKitten [2011-11-29 05:03:03 +0000 UTC]

hmm late growth spurt perhaps..? xD

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DashieKitten In reply to ooOJuicyOoo [2011-11-30 00:37:38 +0000 UTC]

Makes sense.

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CrunchNugget In reply to DashieKitten [2011-12-01 16:11:50 +0000 UTC]

I figure they were both full-grown by the time this happened. Just because Luna is younger doesn't mean she'll be smaller forever. I did make Luna shorter in the flashback portion, when they were still fillies, but as adults a younger sibling can even end up as the taller one.

I assume the only reason Celestia is bigger in the show is because she had 1000 years to get ahead, especially since the Nightmare Night episode showed that Luna is getting taller now.

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pYez [2011-11-24 02:19:49 +0000 UTC]

I liked Craig & Lauren in the background.

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SonicRainBoom12X In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 02:01:06 +0000 UTC]

...derrrr... i really dont get it...

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CrunchNugget In reply to SonicRainBoom12X [2011-11-24 19:20:58 +0000 UTC]

My journal entry I linked at the beginning of the description might clarify it for you. Since I knew I was making this kinda vague, I felt like I needed to provide a fuller explanation in case it didn't make sense.

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SlyWitWritingIsMagic [2011-11-24 01:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, I liked this comic quite a bit.

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mahlielpwnee In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 01:38:10 +0000 UTC]

nice idea, and i wont even go into the scientific reasons why life couldnt have persisted that long without light.

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CrunchNugget In reply to mahlielpwnee [2011-11-24 05:17:35 +0000 UTC]

That was one thing I wish I could have explained better...this darkness is settling in over a period of a few months. It gets a little bit darker and a little bit colder every day, as their sun slowly (slow from pony perspective) dies. I realize that in itself makes no sense, since that's not how stars die, but I figure it can work differently in their universe.

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mahlielpwnee In reply to CrunchNugget [2011-11-27 23:33:02 +0000 UTC]

in other words: ITS MAGIC! I DONT GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT!

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BronyLink In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 01:25:02 +0000 UTC]

You sir are just awesome.

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moonsugar33 In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 01:21:34 +0000 UTC]

This is beautiful.

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OneAndOnly67 In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 01:08:37 +0000 UTC]

lovely! simply regal!

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TheGrimside [2011-11-24 01:00:59 +0000 UTC]

So great. Just so, so great. Well done.

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enp In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 00:59:40 +0000 UTC]

I felt a chill down my spine after panel 10.

That was just too pretty :3

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bionicdragon5 In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 00:53:32 +0000 UTC]

Words cannot describe how true and amazing this is.
Well done!

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breaksystembse In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 00:52:44 +0000 UTC]

...

I bow to this beautifully crafted piece.

This better be in the Hearth Warming's Eve episode, or I'ma sue somepony.

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kitsune85 In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 00:34:42 +0000 UTC]

Interesting take on the formation of the original Elements of Harmony group. I like the contrasting of light and dark in this one.

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jelly-berry [2011-11-24 00:31:55 +0000 UTC]

BRAVO SIR, JUST BRAVO!

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ShadTheCrazed In reply to ??? [2011-11-24 00:14:32 +0000 UTC]

Bravo! Bravo!

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LolZorzs [2011-11-24 00:03:55 +0000 UTC]

Bellissimo! Now this! is an origin story. Bravo!

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mockingjay-fly-away [2011-11-23 23:43:50 +0000 UTC]

LOVE LOVE LOVE
THis is beautiful.

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weirdfuzzything In reply to ??? [2011-11-23 23:22:06 +0000 UTC]

this... is.... AWESOME

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pj202718 [2011-11-23 23:18:10 +0000 UTC]

If they don't make this canon, they're insane in the membrane.

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EonMaster In reply to pj202718 [2011-11-23 23:25:50 +0000 UTC]

Not sure how this could be canon considering Discord would be running amok during their fillyhood.

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CrunchNugget In reply to EonMaster [2011-11-24 05:48:44 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I admit that's a bit of a problem. Mostly that's because I took so long making this. Discord didn't even exist yet (that we knew of) when I started the story.

But in my long-winded journal I did make an attempt to explain how this could work and still account for Discord. To put it as briefly as I can, maybe Discord started out as more of a cosmic (semi- or unconscious) force of chaos/destruction that permeates all of existence, in opposition to a more constructive force that became Harmony. He did call himself the "spirit" of chaos. So the spell that pulled one of the forces into a more tangible form gave the other one an opportunity to manifest in a physical form capable of acting willfully. Discord is so powerful because he's literally part of the underlying workings of the universe.

It all depends on how you interpret Celestia's statement that Discord "ruled Equestria in a state of eternal unrest and unhappiness." It's possible she meant "eternal" quite literally, because he'd been around for all of existence, "ruling" in a somewhat abstract way. Fitting into my story, he was essentially why their sun was dying in the first place.

When you think about it, if Discord had been around for long in the form he had in the show, could their world really have been stable enough to allow ponies to even live?

But then that's just my after-the-fact attempt to reconcile my story with information I didn't have when I started.

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pj202718 In reply to EonMaster [2011-11-23 23:44:13 +0000 UTC]

Point taken.....

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Chortortle In reply to ??? [2011-11-23 23:06:35 +0000 UTC]

YES.

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TheYelliaes [2011-11-23 22:58:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow. Just Wow! That is the best origin I've seen.

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Dagould1984 [2011-11-23 22:55:52 +0000 UTC]

Now this is just pure beauty, and the six months you spent on it were well spent. I will admit it took a second reading to get what was going on. However I blame that on seventeen straight days of work taking it's toll then on you not getting your point across well.

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PaperMatt202 [2011-11-23 22:55:27 +0000 UTC]

Aww, Young Celestia and young Luna look so cute!

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Dann-The-Yoshi In reply to ??? [2011-11-23 22:53:06 +0000 UTC]

That was beautiful. I loved that comic.

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MidnightWonko [2011-11-23 22:46:00 +0000 UTC]

Celestia and Luna were originally unicorns?

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CrunchNugget In reply to MidnightWonko [2011-11-24 06:11:22 +0000 UTC]

I like to believe they started out as normal ponies, yes, since we don't have their official origin story yet.

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MidnightWonko In reply to CrunchNugget [2011-11-27 13:24:23 +0000 UTC]

Okey-dokey-loki!

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Zogger568 [2011-11-23 22:45:47 +0000 UTC]

And if you wake up one morning, and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we did our job.

-Thie reminds me of the movie Sunshine.

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KooqieTS [2011-11-23 22:44:04 +0000 UTC]

Sadz.

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Rixlan In reply to ??? [2011-11-23 22:35:23 +0000 UTC]

It's possible the Elements worked differently in the past. In Return Of Harmony Celestia only mentions Luna and herself using the Elements. Perhaps the two of them together represented kindness, laughter, honesty, loyalty, generosity, and magic.

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CrunchNugget In reply to Rixlan [2011-11-24 05:59:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's possible too. But then she also never explicitly said the two of them DIDN'T have help in using the Elements.

Part of the reason I decided they must have had friends was because of how Celestia looks at her cutie mark as she reads the friendship lesson at the end of episode 12. "Sometimes, the thing you think will cause you to lose friends and feel left out can actually be the thing that helps you make your closest friends, and realize how special you are." Then the "camera" zooms in on her cutie mark as she looks at it and sort of sighs knowingly, like she's remembering something from her own past.

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LuridChronomancer [2011-11-23 22:31:29 +0000 UTC]

I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit. This is lovely.

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CrunchNugget In reply to LuridChronomancer [2011-11-24 06:03:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. I just was feeling kinda nervous about how people would see this, especially since it was somewhat vague, and some details were hard to portray how I was thinking of them.

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Duckbro In reply to ??? [2011-11-23 22:16:44 +0000 UTC]

I...I need to go change my pants. This was far too epic, please excuse me for a moment.

*5 minutes later*

ok now then, HOLY FUCK THAT WAS AMAZING!!!! Any chance I can utilize this origin story in a fanfic I have planned? I'll obviously site you for the reference.

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