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"I have known many adults who have treasured throughout their lives some of the books they read as children.I have never come across any adult or adolescent who had outgrown comic-book reading who would ever dream of keeping any of these 'books' for any sentimental or other reason".---the old guy pictured up there,in the real book with the title at the top.
"Dewey Defeats Truman"
---published about the same time.
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"I've never met anyone who would do _____, so therefore not only is it not done, it is not done by any sane and respectable person."
--- lots of narrow-minded people around the world, since forever
And to be fair, the whole nostalgia kick/ collecting as a hobby tip is a rather recent invention, late coming into any kind of respectability. Remember how Disney used to sell cels from its animated movies in a big bin at Cinderella's Castle for like a dollar each?
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They did?
Considering how much such a cel can go for these days,I'm going to assume that was at Disneyland in its early years.
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They did, and they did it as recently as the 80s. I remember that wooden square bin and the cels for sale quite clearly. I leafed through a few from Cinderella featuring the mice myself.
There was for decades a profound disconnect in the value of a Hollywood product, between all the people that produced it, and al the people that consumed it. Cels and the old-style mat background paintings and the costumes and sets and all that were just tools, and a means to an end. Once the production was over, into the trash it all went. A good number of all those great mat paintings used in the original Star Wars trilogy, for example, are gone forever because once they did the SFX shots that required those paintings, the big glass pane was washed clean and the artists started on the next painting for the next SFX composite shot.
There were many gasps of shock and horror when it was discovered that most-all the pieces of the miniature diorama used in the old David Letterman set were promptly sent to the trash bins out back once the last show was taped. But that's show biz.
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I guess there's really no way of knowing what movie paraphernalia will or won't become valuable...when they shot the final scene of the 1976 version of King Kong at the base of the World Trade Center,hundreds of New Yorkers hired as extras stripped pieces of fur off the giant figure of the dead Kong...four years later,in their book The Golden Turkey Awards,authors Harry and Michael Medved jokingly suggested that these would be worthless,their opinion stemming from their dislike of the movie.
And yet,if you really had a piece of Kong '76,I can't help but wonder if today it might actually be worth something!
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Yeah. It might be worth... a laugh.
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you've have really captured, on what that idiot Fredric Wetham has stated in that terrible book of his, in this great artwork
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It wasn't until long after I first posted this that I'd wished I'd thought to put Alfred E. Neuman somewhere in the picture.Wertham's book led to those pointless Congressional hearings,which eventually caused the downfall of EC comics,which eventually led to...guess?
Hint:"What,me worry?"
Oh...and thanks for the 
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Sadly Wertham was a typical case of "good intention for the biggest good". He really thinked he was helping the young people but instead damaged a growing and interesting comunicational media. He also cheated: he cahnged and twisted the declarations of his patients and study subjects to the studies fit to his hypothesis. And that is exactly the opposite to any scientific discipline. At least that the last thing I just read about Wertham. There was a librarian, Carol Tilley, who made her thesis about how the good doctor made his studies fit his pre-conceived ideas. [link]
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I've read Tilley's thesis...It had occured to me to mention it when I originally posted this work,but I just forgot.Thanks for including the link!
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You're welcome.
You know, I feel bad for Wertham. He maybe was thinked that was the best but now he will be remembered as a dark chapter for comics and psychology studies.
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I had heard rumors, but... is this the actual illustration on the cover?
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No,this is something I did.Look up "Seduction Of The Innocent" and you'll see why.
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Yeah, I figured as much, but I had never seen the actual cover.
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My whole cartooning career is pretty much based on thumbing my nose at the Comics Code Authority and ESPECIALLY Wertham's poorly-researched book.
This is awesome.
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Wertham had nothing better to do, so he was just being a dick and just go after anything he didn't like. He is truly the forefather of a jackass who complains about a certain media and thinks its corrupting children.
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According to my sources,Wertham said he'd never approve of censorship;given his opinions on other socio-political matters of the time,I'm inclined to believe that...but that still doesn't change the fact that he wrote "Seduction" at a time when the average American adult wasn't willing to question any sort of authority.I mean,look how far Joseph McCarthy got in that same climate!
Thanks for the
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It's been a while since I looked it up, but apparently what he really wanted was what amounts today as an MPAA Ratings System for comics, kinda like what most books have now on their covers. Everyone just went nuts over the "expert" and did what they thought wouldn't "affect" children anymore. But apparently, even Wertham's research was incredibly weak regardless of his intentions.
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Supposedly,his reasoning was based on the fact that most of the kids he examined in juvenile correction facilities read comic books...so,logically,comic books are a corrupting influence.
Thanks for the
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Yep means alot to a bommer, doesn't it?
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This is excellent. I love the EC Comic book style, plus the references to Tales From the Crypt, the beginning of the horror comic genre.
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For the longest time I wanted to render that ghoulish trio...I finally found the perfect format to do so.
Thanks for the
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Heh heh heh... the Crypt Keeper, the Vault Keeper, the Old Witch... very nice!
And no problem!
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Funny you have this posted right as there's a big brouhaha going on about DC deciding to announce that one of their main characters is gay...
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I heard about that.Big deal...they've had several gay characters for years.
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they've had ones that were implied through subtext, but not officially said "Yes, this one is gay."
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Um... yeah they have had out-and-out gay characters before. The blue alien Starman and Obsidian from Infinity Inc/Justice Society to name two.
And the gay character is officially Alan Scott, who's going to be the Green Lantern of Earth 2.
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