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Is there any way to circumvent hot topics?
Heard it isn't possible to disable them. Is there any other way?
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FINALLY! Now DA just needs to restore Eclipse to the old site layout
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Raw Code Please
Coding is an essential skill and allows for more freedom with creativity.
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Unless I missed this update, will writers be seeing a (in my opinion) much needed increase in the allowed word count for text-based deviations?
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DeviantArt, I Am DisappointHave you ever wondered what engaging with a brick wall for nine months feels like? Well now you don't have to, because you can do so vicariously through me.
^This is a small sample of the past nine months.
I'm feeling incredibly burnt out at this point. Discourag
Please fix the coding issue. You are hurting artists by not doing so. Eclipse in its current state makes countless things people worked hard on and paid for useless.
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Hello! Just two short question, if you don't mind (thank you). They're very similar as well.
Someone brought up that they'd prefer a system like Toyhou.se where there is a normal text function that is not HTML, and a button that can change it to HTML setting. There's even a button called WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) where people can put in code, test it right on the spot before going live (and even edit it in 'normal mode'), and switch right back to make adjustments as needed if anything's broken or missing. The WYSIWYG part is super nice but not completely needed. I then asked my friend if it would be difficult to code/implement and they said it probably wouldn't be.
So I wonder if this is a reasonable compromise for easy access to all, and letting people who love coding do what they'd like? Or if there's another underlying reason, or the HTML "hijacking" is really the biggest issue? I mean I understand in this post it's clear that HTML is NOT coming back, but a lot of people still aren't happy with this reasoning. Please allude more or even just answer my questions. Thank you for reading
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Coding is part of my livelyhood. Just because someone can't do it or isn't willing to learn doesn't mean you should punish those that have learned. One of the biggest selling points of Core for my friends is being able to make their pages look 'pretty', on their own terms. Fuck off with this no-coding bullshit.Β
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I hate to say it.. But for me as a coder, part of the fun IS fixing the broken parts. It's not ideal and can cause some frustration when something doesnt work how I want it to, but coding IS fun... Especially the final rush you get when you get it coded right.
What if there was an option to toggle between "rich editing mode" and "html mode" just like journals currently do?
HTML is not truely web-site breaking like css or java is.
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Y'all better be prepared for a lot of people leaving. You're trying to take things away to make something that's fine as it is into something else. You know how YouTube went and changed everything and people don't like to use the service anymore? The same thing's going to happen here.
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this is such a bruh moment im fucking crying... please let this be an early april fools
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not to sound mean but... why don't you better make gifs have the same preview as if they were like static images instead of taking away some page deco benefits?
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I have some questions about the 'other options for page decor that won't involve coding' that you've mentioned, would we still be able to add stamps and other page decor with it?
There's so many artists who just only create stamps and page decor such as pixel icons, buttons, dividers, and page dolls. It'll really be pointless for them to continue if we can't use them in the future.
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Thank you for replying! I'm happy to hear that we can still use them
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Isn't there anyway we can show our stamps, gifs, buttons and all?
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Please add a way to include gifs from other sites, not just from giphy. Just by copying and paste url. The gifs I want to include aren't from giphy. Also, add a way to include images pngs and jpgs from other sites too, just by copying and paste url as well. I like to customize my profile and also include in journals, pictures of my favorite characters, but they are from other sites. I want to be able to include pictures from other sites in both custom box and journals.
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I don't like the idea of giphy. I rather use my own. The problem I noticed is it won't let me upload all the gifs I like. Also check my profile to see what I mean.
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I'm not talking about the eclipse format. I want to use a format that will support multiple gifs.
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Can you show me an example please?
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Hey I tried adding my gifs in my custom box but its not working...
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Well I always get this preview thing and then when I upload it from stash my gifs loads take too long or never load at all. I got these gifs from makeagif.
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Thanks because I can't stand the whole preview only. Its really annoying and I really wanna add my gifs to my custom boxes. Please do let me know if they reply.
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Sure try these
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makeagif.com/gif/mario-party-1β¦
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hmmm.... almost like it isn't fair for some people to have gifs because others might not know how to add them to their profile.
Ironic.
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Right, but its also easy to copy/paste coding for things to spruce up your profile using CSS.
Using "people don't know" isn't a valid excuse, especially when 90% of your customer base only buy cores to use coding. There is always going to be something people don't know how to do, the example of this person not knowing how to install a GIF is exactly what I was getting at. I wish you guys would just be honest with the reasoning as to why you got rid of CSS/HTML. If you had successfully polled your clientele about the use of CSS/HTML instead of just randomly making assumptions, you would have gotten a far better understanding of what we as paying people want. I get its hard to support your large clientele with markup but at the same time, a lot of us are paying you good money every month/year to use these things. As someone who buys multiple cores and super groups, its actually pretty upsetting that dA and the staff doesn't listen to the feedback the paying people are giving you.
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Giving you some real life examples since I drive a bus for a living, it would be like taking a semi-busy bus route away because not everyone uses it. Not everyone uses it, sure, but the paying people who rely on it every day do. Despite protesting to the company, the company refuses to listen or reason with their paying customers, now leaving these people out of a way to get to work every morning, home at night or a way to get groceries.
Relating this bus route to dA, 90% of your dA core members coding and have had no problems with it even though there are some glitches and limitations. I understand it is hard to include markup for each and every user, but speaking from someone who has been on this platform for 13 years, markup on this site has always been different, had limitations, but it made people happy. People made a living coding dA profile pages, groups, I paid someone decent money recently to code my group front page only to see this announcement. The person I bought these services are out of a side job, cannot get exposure for their businesses, so on and so forth. Even using basic div tags, etc in custom boxes and group profiles would make this so much better...Β
Obviously the staff came to the conclusion about this for a reason, and the reason you've given isn't the full truth. dA is attempting to be inclusive with all of these updates, but ignores their fanbase screaming "please stop" and refuses to address these issues truthfully. If its a lack of staff, that's one thing, just tell us.Β
I have funded this site for a good 10 years, I have bought items from the store when it was an actual thing. I have my super llama plushie right next to my screen. If its anyone that is passionate about this site, its me and I'm legitimately worried about the direction this site is going. I am putting aside things like the utter horrible UI of eclipse because UI is something that a member can get used too (new people? not so much... just something to think about). This change is becoming more like Facebook, you can only customize your profile to a certain extent, all our profiles look the same... This is an art site, please please please encourage creativity. Like I said in a previous post, CSS and HTML are an artform. You're suffocating your clientele. People are leaving.Β
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The site isn't hard to navigate, manage or use as is? What do you mean make it easier? Why is dA fixing things that clearly isn't broken? Right now, switching from current site to Eclipse, its actually harderΒ for me to use because the UI is utter trash. Is the UI being fixed? Right now I see no effort to fix that, just decisions that are making the paying customers super upset. If you wanted to make the site more like the mobile app, you guys are heading in the right direction (is the mobile app still as bad as it was back when it was released?). Sure even though the site kinda looks good on mobile it is still utter garbage to navigate. Whether it be on mobile, tablet or computer. Maybe the UI isn't even being considered, I mean someone obviously chose these colour schemes which does this site no justice whatsoever, why would ease of using the site really matter? But seriously black and white? I know staff probably have those glasses that filter blue light but dang have mercy on the rest of us please! The contrast is horrendous. Why stray from the green dA colour is so classically known for??
I am not concerned about gifs since they weren't hard in the first place. It was simply an example of what the excuse was you gave, vs an "easy" option in Eclipse. The person you were speaking too didn't know how. Its just ironic that that is the reason ya'll are ridding with CSS/HTML. GIPHY is a bad idea, from personal experience.Β
All kidding aside though, you didn't need to completely remove markup to make the site or user creation easier though?Β You can be inclusive for everyone. Add options for those who don't entirely know how to use coding (or want to dabble their toes in it a bit) through your new interface. Even custom websites give you the option of "Visual" or "Advanced" version of coding. Visual for coding-noobs, advanced for those of us who need to fix it or want to use it to the extent that it is capable of. If your sole reason is that you want everyone to know how to use the site, bam bingo problem solved? Even Wordpress is able to make your site look good across all platforms and gives users super crazy customization options with the option of using Advanced settings (aka coding). Sure it takes a lot of work, but it canΒ be done. Leads me back to the staffing question... Is it a staffing problem? Is there not enough of you to get it done? If that's the case, that is completely understandable. Not having your members not know how, though, isn't because there are very clear ways around it which allow both a visual editor and an advanced coding section.Β
Are you telling me as a super group purchaser every year, I'll be able to do something like what EquusBallator has done with coding on their front page but... without coding? Menu bar, custom links, columns, the whole shebang. Or am I limited to your preset options in your editor now. If that's the case, is super group pricing going to be cut in half? What am I going to be paying for? I can ask the same thing about my own page... non core members are getting the same benefits as core members except... the custom box? What am I paying for? Is this what I'm funding? Presets?Β
Also I can't help but laugh at the "we know some people will be unhappy"... some???? Have you even read the comments or replies on your own comment?? Its like a solid 90/10% unhappy to happy about this decision right now. I'm not sure how "some" came into play. Like I said, polling your paying clientele was probably the best decision - hell, it would probably be smart to poll them now to see if you're making a huge mistake.
Announcing and removing something this big on the site without having a functioning example of how this editor was supposed to work was a very bad idea. If this editor can do as much customization as you make it sound (which really, the editor is all presets... there will always be drastic limitations, not the same as CSS) perhaps having a working, functioning example of that when you made this announcement would have been better:
"hey we're getting rid of this thing you love and cherish but here is what we're replacing it with" Cuts the sting down a little and lets people actually make up their minds about the site instead of waiting and prolonging the inevitable. If I knew what the editor looked like, how super groups were going to function, etc. I'd either start planning my large group to leave dA and move off site or I'd buckle down and try and plan around it. But you've given us nothing to work with. Why release a beta with literally nothing ready?Β
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