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Description From the EGS:NP section of my comic El Goonish Shive
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Impybutt In reply to ??? [2016-11-23 22:15:52 +0000 UTC]

Hey now, I challenge any football player to do a layout without pulling something.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Impybutt [2016-11-23 22:32:51 +0000 UTC]

There are plenty of professional athletes.

Also don't quite get what you mean, not really a sport person... XD

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Impybutt In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-23 23:26:10 +0000 UTC]

Here's a good video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6eU9…

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Impybutt [2016-11-24 00:15:02 +0000 UTC]

If he trained for that, he could do that too.
There are male cheerleaders too.

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Impybutt In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 04:35:01 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, hence my disputing the 'devolution' idea

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Impybutt [2016-11-24 12:53:12 +0000 UTC]

That's not why I said devolution...

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Impybutt In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 22:35:07 +0000 UTC]

Then why? I'm not getting the joke :/

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Impybutt [2016-11-25 02:14:17 +0000 UTC]

I had a whole conversation about this with others, please check first.

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Impybutt In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-25 10:13:52 +0000 UTC]

Got it; you have an awful lot of growing up to do.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Impybutt [2016-11-25 11:18:15 +0000 UTC]

ME?! They have alot to learn, not me. XD

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hawk222 In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 17:25:09 +0000 UTC]

We know why you said devolution. It's because you seem to view women as lesser beings than men. It's not that hard to figure out.

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starfyredragon In reply to hawk222 [2017-01-11 17:35:22 +0000 UTC]

RadicalDanny   if hawk222   is right in synopsis of RadicalDanny...

On the topic of "women being a devolution of men", it's simply not true.

Actual genetic and mental differences between genders are much, much smaller than most people think. A surprising number of the differences are actually from the differences in guy and girl *culture*.

For example, most don't know the male and females brains, when controlled for culture differences, aren't discernible, aka, if you raised a man like you would a woman, his brain would look just like a woman's brain. It's not like the difference of being two difference species, and more like the difference of being from two different countries.

Further, genetically speaking, the actual genetic differences between male and female are often talked about being the "Y Chromosome" versus the "X Chromosome". Thing is, though, a Y Chromosome IS an X Chromosome, just shorter, and almost every single gene on the Y chromosome is on the X. In fact, there's ONLY one gene on the Y chromosome that's different, and that gene is, if I recall, only a single base pair different.

All of your genetic code (and that's just a single cell), all untangled and laid out, is about 2 meters long. In that two meters, the only thing separating a guy from a girl is a single atom.

Now, add to that the fact that viruses insert stuff into DNA all the time; and that can disrupt a gene from expressing. Although no virus targets it currently, it's hypothetically possible that a virus (such as the common flu) could evolve to target it at any time, and if that happened, catching the flu could literally change gender. The only reason that doesn't happen already is purely a roll of the dice.

Now that I've made point of how simple that one extra gene is, I'll get onto the point. That one gene does one task... it turns off a bunch of other genes. It's nothing more than a toggle switch. That switch is all that seperates guys from girls. Now, how much does it turn off? Enough to where the male would-be X chromosome looks like it's missing a leg because male chromosomes don't bother taking info they're not going to use, and that gene turns off that same area in the X chromosome a guy gets from his mom.

So, that said, the female DNA has a lot more functional data than a guy's does, hand's down.

Now, switching back from normal genetics and back to Pokemon evolution: When a Pokemon evolves, they change or add types, but never drop from two types down to one type.

So, at the end of the day, it makes little sense to claim one gender is the evolution of the other, but IF you're going to insist that one gender is the evolution of the other, the only solid case would be women being the evolutionary form.

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hawk222 In reply to starfyredragon [2017-01-14 03:45:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your insight! It was pleasant to read.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to hawk222 [2016-11-24 17:28:07 +0000 UTC]

Guys are the superior gender.

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hawk222 In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 18:05:30 +0000 UTC]

It's nice that you believe that (it's really not), but don't expect to be in the majority.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to hawk222 [2016-11-24 18:15:15 +0000 UTC]

Guys are stronger, faster and smarter...
The first two is why genders are separated at the Olympics, male athletes are often higher ranking then the female athletes

The last one is that there are still more male scientists, even though women are free to choose that profession for a long time now.
And scientific breakthroughs are happening more with male scientists to boot.


I'm not being sexist, just stating the facts.

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hawk222 In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-25 18:31:31 +0000 UTC]

Lol, it's cute that you think that.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to hawk222 [2016-11-25 18:51:56 +0000 UTC]

I don't think that, I KNOW that. XD

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-27 10:32:54 +0000 UTC]

When it comes to physical strength, men do have an advantage. That advantage is gone when it comes to things like cheerleading. I would also like to note that the average (and medians) between men and women when it comes to physical strength aren't all that far apart. It's enough to make a difference in top sport, because slight differences are very important when everyone is performing at their peak.
As for your statement about female scientists, I would like to point out that in a time when women weren't supposed to pursue an academic carreer some of the leading mathematicians and scientists were women. Many of the advancements that led to the computer and the internet were done by women.

The reason why there are still less women in corporate and scientific carreers, is because there's still a glass ceiling for women. People like you, who think that women are somehow less capable, are still rampant throughout these men-dominated domains and thus account for the smaller number of women in these fields.

But I would also like to point out that by your own reasoning you're an inferior specimen of the male gender. You're neither a great scientist or a successful athlete.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-11-27 12:46:44 +0000 UTC]

Obviously you haven't read the entire conversation I had with others...

Also I wouldn't turn away women just because they don't have a penis.
I hire people based on their qualifications, gender has no impact on that decision ^^

I never said I was the best male kind had to offer, however you know nothing about my real life work or personal life.
So you have NO grounds for such a statement.

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-29 12:02:44 +0000 UTC]

You say you hire people on their qualifications, but you're clearly prejudiced towards women.
You might think that you actually give them a fair chance, but you go into it thinking that a man is probably better for the job (and you're clearly not even aware of it). That's not a fair chance.

I've read what you had to say about this.
You've first dug the hole deeper, then you moved the goalposts.

And dont worry. I'm not judging you. YOU are judging you. I'm using YOUR standards to judge you. I don't agree with your standards at all. It's true, I DON'T know anything about your work, personal life and achievements. So tell me how great you are. Prove that you live up to your own standards.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-11-29 12:51:40 +0000 UTC]

Woah! You're putting words in my mouth here...
I'm not against women.

When did I say I was superior to everyone?
I'm just your average Joe, plenty of women being better then me too, I'm not embarrassed to say that.

Look pal, I'm just saying fact. Rudimentary as they be. They ARE still facts.

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-29 14:24:23 +0000 UTC]

You're misinterpreting statistics to say that men are superior. You base yourself on physical strength and academics achievements. You're ignoring the fact that the differences are very small AND the other factors that influence these things.

If men are superior because of physical strength and academic achievements, then you are, by your own reasoning, inferior unless you're a great athlete or scientific genius. So either you're judging yourself to be an inferior man or you can prove how awesome you are. Or maybe what you're saying about the "superiority of men" simply isn't correct.

You're not AGAINST women, no. You just have strong prejudice about them and you THINK that evidence is based on facts, but you haven't looked into the whole picture. You're making one logical fallacy after the other and one confronted with them, you just make new ones (moving the goalposts for instance). And based on your prejudice you will expect less of women and (without knowing this yourself clearly) seek to confirm your own bias. You will claim that you treat them equally, but will still give men an unfair advantage, thus perpetuating the very "facts" that you claim to base yourself upon.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-11-29 14:39:16 +0000 UTC]

Talking to you is like talking to a wall, good day!

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-29 16:04:45 +0000 UTC]

Because I debunk your logical fallacies and use your own logic against you?

If you keep insisting that the facts proof that this wall is a doorway, you will keep running into a wall.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-11-29 16:26:22 +0000 UTC]

Meaningless insult ignored.

I said GOOD DAY!

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-30 23:22:31 +0000 UTC]

I heard you the first time.
I would also like to point out that replying to something is not ignoring it.

I can't help notice how you turn your back on an argument if false use of statistics or fallacies don't work.
It's sad that you don't wish to learn from this and adapt your flawed worldview.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-11-30 23:50:00 +0000 UTC]

I said GOOD DAY!

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-04 09:31:37 +0000 UTC]

Very nice imitation of Fez from the That 70's Show.
Other than that: I heard you the first two times.
If you want to end a discussion, maybe you should stop replying to it.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-04 09:50:11 +0000 UTC]

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-04 17:24:17 +0000 UTC]

Really?

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-04 19:12:41 +0000 UTC]

...

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-07 06:40:16 +0000 UTC]

Well... You're the one who wanted to get away from this discussion... Do keep going if you want.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-07 12:24:43 +0000 UTC]

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-08 10:53:39 +0000 UTC]

Keep going.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-08 12:27:55 +0000 UTC]

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-09 10:22:43 +0000 UTC]

Still at it, I see.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-09 11:32:19 +0000 UTC]

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-12 08:44:35 +0000 UTC]

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-12 09:53:40 +0000 UTC]

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-13 09:19:51 +0000 UTC]

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-13 13:21:38 +0000 UTC]

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Zeldenhandel In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-12-13 17:03:58 +0000 UTC]

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Zeldenhandel [2016-12-13 17:46:41 +0000 UTC]

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hawk222 In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-25 20:44:04 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure, I'm sure. And I know that you just keep commenting on things like this to get your kicks.

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Laser-Wing In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 18:59:18 +0000 UTC]

Guys are also weaker, slower, and dumber.

Choosing a profession has a variety of reasons, not necessarily only "smartness."
"Scientific breakthroughs are happening more with male scientists" because half of them don't acknowledge the women's contribution.

You're being sexist, because you're making judgments based on a superficial understanding of statistics.

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Laser-Wing [2016-11-24 19:10:22 +0000 UTC]

You're just contradicting me. :\

Well there are other professions like that, that still see far more guys then gals.
Medical profession, women are more likely to become nurses then doctors!
Business jobs, women more secretary's then CEO's!
Teaching jobs, women teach more young children then (pre)teens (where kids tend get more "unruly") XD

I'm just going by the general factual statistics, yes.
But that doesn't make me sexist.

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Laser-Wing In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 19:19:50 +0000 UTC]

sex·ism      (sĕk′sĭz′əm)

n.

1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.

2. The belief that one gender is superior to the other, especially that men are superior to women.
So yes, that makes you sexist.

Why are women more likely to become nurses than doctors, secretaries than CEOs? Is it because they're women, or maybe because people treat women differently and other reasons? Isn't it rather naive to only consider one parameter?

Based on what you said, you only took a glimpse at the actual statistics, maybe read some buzzfeed article on it, but didn't actually look at the quoted statistics. Do you actually know anything about stochastics?

Aside from all that, do you really think that strength, speed, and "intelligence" are the only valuable qualities in a human being? Especially considering that we live in societies? If your mother wasn't as pain-resistant as she was, you wouldn't have been born. If people didn't show empathy, and emotional intelligence, then society, as it is, would not exist. Outlying strength and speed especially don't exactly matter much outside sports, do they?

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DannyAndYoko In reply to Laser-Wing [2016-11-24 19:32:01 +0000 UTC]

The first part about sexism in the dictionary is sexist against men! o_0

Fine, I'll stop teasing.
Though still poor guy for being turned into or replaced by a woman.

I'm actually a firm believer in TRUE equality.
Not this new age feminism crap where, women are acting like professional victims.
And you do have to admit that men are just IN GENERAL physically stronger and faster, not to say women can't achieve the same. 

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Laser-Wing In reply to DannyAndYoko [2016-11-24 19:51:48 +0000 UTC]

When the dictionary says "especially against women" it doesn't mean that it's especially sexist if it's against women, but that it's generally more often used when it's against women.

Being turned into a woman isn't bad because he's being turned into a woman. It's bad because he is turned into not-himself, which includes several differences, including gender. I don't think he would be very happy if he were to be transformed into a stereotypical nerd either. It can be shocking enough when you suddenly have a different eye color, especially if it's involuntarily.

You spent time trying to convince someone that women are inferior to men, and now you tell me you're a firm believer in TRUE equality? Were you just trolling before? What were you trying to achieve? Personal experience tells me that if someone assumes someone else is "acting like professional victims" then they're projecting.

I don't see any particular point in making these kind of generalizations. That said, I have four sisters and three brothers, all of which are very different people, with very different skill sets. My older sister is studying quantum physics, my younger sister is studying psychology, another sister wants to be a doctor. All of us are pretty bad at sports, but the best one is the sister wanting to be a doctor. Personal experience taught me that gender superiority is bullshit.

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