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davidfoxfire — Haggling Thread: Clarice Kat by-nc-sa

Published: 2012-10-09 06:57:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 1897; Favourites: 13; Downloads: 24
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Description I have two more Chromatown characters I wanted to hash out before I'm ready to work for the Pitch Bible. Right now I just have the initial idea with a short description and sketch of the character, but nothing's quite right set at this time. So I'm sending this Alpha-stage sketch and characterization for others to hash with me. When I get the feedback, I can progress with the piece above.

Clarice Kat replaces Marie Swiss as Chromatown's Flatmate (And if I'm feeling a bit naughty, 'friend with benefits') and occasional Damsel in Distress. She also moonlights as a Cabaret performer, hence the sexy outfit. Personally, I think Amber uses this character to deal with her lack of a love life.

What I wanted help is with, maybe she can get some variety in her wardrobe. Granted, most of the time she wears evening gowns, but I don't want to go back to fetish/placeholder outfits (Maid, Bunnygirl, Sera Fuku, and the others). Anything that can help me improve this character will be greatly appreciated.

EDIT 01: I changed her outfit to something closer to the period, a simple 1920s dress, but I still have a cut skirt showing a lot of leg, and the opera gloves. I do hope that I got the anatomy better in this pose.
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PorygonV [2012-10-12 12:42:05 +0000 UTC]

Updated: Anatomy-wise, it's a good change. The pose isn't as dynamic as the old one, but it definitely conveys a little class and a light, flirty tone. It was also necessary to fix the tail so it would come out from the back of the dress.

It seems a bit different from the other 20s era toons you've shown, and I think it might be because she doesn't have the 'mask' of white like the others do. Not that she needs it or anything, it's just me rambling again. I did think the evening gown was a good concept, sort of a jazz age singer by night sort of thing.

On the whole, I do have to ask: What sort of cartoons is Amber planning to make? I'm sure you may have to draw at least parts of the cartoons in the strips, to show people actually watching them, so it would be wise to address it some.

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davidfoxfire In reply to PorygonV [2012-10-12 16:33:26 +0000 UTC]

Well, not all characters are black. Some like Johnny are closer to gray, and with Clarice, she's a white cat. And I go all black clothes (and the evening gown will be back, maybe it'll be her usual outfit?) for contrast.

And for the cartoons, it'll be the first thing you see. To start, ChaomaJohnny gets visited by Pat and his goons over the cheese hoard Johnny keeps in his apartment.

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kompy [2012-10-10 01:49:12 +0000 UTC]

If I may be so bold? I was reading up a book on Disney animation that included the story of how Walt was forced to make a new character after losing the rights to Oswald The Rabbit and I noticed two things: One, the need for a simplistic design in order to make animation and Two: even Walt used references to other shows from time to time if only so he could avoid doing the same thing as the other guy.

So with these thoughts in mind, I offer two suggestions: One, research how the industry prepares character sheets -- turnarounds, expressions, proportions, all that jazz. The more thought you put into designing characters as if they were going to be animated, the better your chances of making your Chromatown cast a bit more believable, at least in regard to the toon cast.

The second one, and I don't blame you for being wary of doing this: Actually watch some 1920s cartoons, not just Mickey or Oswald ones, too. Try comparing how other animation companies designed their characters to how Walt did it, then use your observations from that to better imitate the style. Take note at the low number of details, the use of black and white, everything you can gather to make a style that could theoretically work as a homage but is more "Amber's" style. Remember, you're doing those toon designs from the perspective of a woman that went to art school and knows a thing or two about character design and animation (or at least I assume, anyway).

Just tossing my two cents here.

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PorygonV [2012-10-09 12:13:51 +0000 UTC]

Artistically, I would recommend you take a look at the area around her lower torso and hip. Given how high the cut is and how much leg is shown, it looks like she lacks her hips and stomach area. Also, every cartoon I have seen with anthropomorphic female characters in dresses had their tail through the back end of the dress.

I'm guessing it's a typo, but who does Clarice share a place with? I'm 90% sure it's Johnny, because well... It's you. You're a bit predictable when it comes to your male leads. But, somehow there's this 10% that's waiting for a surprise.

And as for what she wears otherwise, a cursory Google image search for "1920s fashion" shows lots of basic dresses and hats suitable for the time period. I'm sure that gives you a little something to work with.

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davidfoxfire In reply to PorygonV [2012-10-09 16:50:35 +0000 UTC]

Jeez, I was so worried about making sure the crouch isn't shown that I forgot that part of the anatomy. Whoops. And always have the hole in the back for the tail as well. Perfectly understandable.

Oooooo, I should surprise someone over who she lives with? Fine by me, heh heh heh.

And thanks for the tip on 1920s fashion.

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