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lol
I thought it was rather obvious that I was talking about the recipient, when I was said something like "When I am addressed as 'You' in a sentence", but ok, subjectivity and santax are tricky sometimes^^
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Most homophobic people I know in real life are women, and it's because of their religion... this seems a little stereotyping and sexist itself. Actually the majority of men I know who are also homophobic are very nice people and have a great family life.
I really get irritated at the amount of people who assume everyone who is homophobic is a bad person. First off, everyone has the ability to change. I was raised to not agree with homosexuality and it wasn't until I was exposed to it that I changed the way I thought. Secondly, just because someone is a homophobe doesn't mean they go around bashing gays over the head with bottles. I know many people who don't agree with it but still think they should have the same rights straight people do.
I am always sad when a human being dislikes someone for the way they were born, be it the color of their skin or their attraction preferences. But tolerance has to work all ways I suppose.
My two cents. Maybe I got the wrong impression from this, but I can't say I agree with it~
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Someone who "doesn't like" the way a gay is, but tolerates it, is no homophobe. A homophobe is someone who doesn't tolerate another person only because he does love the same sex.
I don't care if people feel uncomfortable with a gay around, just like pretty much every gay out there doesn't, but I do care if gays are suppressed because of their sexuality.
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Well then you're making up your own definition of it:
"Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). "
If you're going to use a common term you should put your own definition if you change what it means
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When trying to force your own definition of a common term to someone else, brace yourself for the common definition: (wiktionary)
-phobia
Used to form nouns meaning fear of a specific thing.
e.g. claustrophobia
Used to form nouns meaning hate, born out of fear, directed towards a particular type of person.
e.g. homophobia
Controversially used to form nouns meaning political or religious organizations or viewpoints concerned with limiting or restraining a specific thing or idea.
e.g. erotophobia
homophobia (uncountable)
1. (obsolete, individual occurrences) A pathological fear of mankind.
2. Fear, dislike or hate of homosexuals.
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Now put the two words together. Two words apart can mean something totally different when they are put together. I got my definition from the same place. That is common knowledge.
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Put the two words together? -phobia and homophobia? You mean homophobiaphobia? The fear or hate towards homophobes?
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No, you noted phobia, I was saying Homophobia is the only definition I was talking about, which you posted. You can have a fear of something but be tolerant to it. I have a fear of spiders and I hate them, I can't stand to be around them, but I don't kill them. I think they have every right to live.
I understand where you are going with your message, but I personally found it a little sexists due to the fact that the majority of those I know who have a fear of gay people are women. I found your message untrue in my experience. As I stated before, I was not sure what your intent was, I was offering some critique on clarification. From the way I saw you reply to other people, someone preaching about tolerance you're not very tolerant. Perhaps that is because we disagree on the term being used, but since I am not the only one who found it hypocritical perhaps you can take this as critique. This is an art site, after all.
If you just wanted people to agree and like you then this would go on facebook. I don't mind people calling things like this art but take some feedback if you post here.
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Learn to read the whole comment before you start to answer based on the ignorance of what you didn't read
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I might offer the same advice my friend~
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I really don't get why it's named "homophobia" It's not the fear of gays, it's just the nonacceptance of them..
But otherwise, it's halfly true most sexists are Anti-homo, But there are some Anti-homo peeps who are not sexist. Providing the fact that, Stating Gender facts and Genes is not being sexist, just true, and it is.
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Because "homophobia" means "Fear, dislike or hate of homosexuals." (wiktionary)
And, again, this definition can be read in several ways, for example: "Fear of a gay man loving you the way you love women".
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I think some homophobes are afraid of unwanted advances made by men who are attracted to them. They can't handle that situation so they revert to hatred. That is to say men make unwanted advances on women, and even women on men, yet the victims aren't heterophobic, if that exists. I think this is typically why lesbians see far less hatred. They are actually attractive to straight men in many cases, so the men have nothing to fear, and therefore nothing to hate. It seems men are the ones perpetuating more hate, while women are more sympathetic. I realize that was full of many generalizations, but its how I feel.
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Well, you don't call it "heterophobic" in your case, but "sexist", "chauvinist" or "macho", because heterosexuality is "normal" (statistically, not ethically), while homosexuality is "special".
That is how language works, and that is why you got a word for "women's rights activist" (id est "feminist"), but not for "males rights activist" (or actually you got now, but as a response to feminism, not in the first place). Language (and the brain) works with prejudices and statistical "normality" and then expresses the differences of the particular.
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This is true, but a phobia may pertain to anything, correct? But it seems highly unlikely to be afraid of normal.
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Well, you are afraid of something specific, no matter how normal it is (Anthropophobia, afraid of other humans) or about being normal (google led me to "Autophobia", actually the fear of yourself).
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Autophobia, eek! How could that be possible
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The same way that selfhate is possible, I guess.
Think of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde or the more modern adaption "The incedible Hulk"...both seem to be knit around this theme of "Autophobia"
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I agree yet disagree. Such is life.
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I recall some quote that was ascribed to Winston Churchill: "If two people agree on everything, one of them is unnecessary". (seems to be no correct quote, but it's a good one^^)
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lol that is a great quote.
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I LOVVEEEE it<3
Don't let anyone tell you it's crap, because it's not
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Nice. Also, I think homophobia also often stems from a feeling within the self that they don't fully understand. Most people, after all, are not 100% straight, and we're told that that isn't natural when it 100% is.
But I think this is kind of cute, if not only just accurate for a portion of people.
And I wonder why there is a comma or period in the middle?? Not grammatically correct.
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That comma is there on purpose: to piss of the Grammar Nazis 
Actually, I think it's kind of a Germanism; in German grammar there's always a comma in front of a 'that' like this, I guess that's the reason for this stupid mistake - almost 90 comments and nobody mentioned this before....strange?^^
What to do now? I think, I'll leave it there, this time indeed to piss off the grammar nazis
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haha I'm an English Lit major and Creative Writing master's student so I notice these things... well, sometimes. I'm sometimes terrible with grammar myself, but this was just odd (probably because I didn't see it as a Germanism)
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Well, Germanism neither is the correct term, but I think you know what I mean: A mistake made by people used to the German grammar (they told us in English class to NOT DO THAT specific error over and over again
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haha, yeah I knew what you meant.
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Oh you know, because if you're gay that means you're attracted to EVERY male you see. Just like if you're a straight male, you're attracted to every single woman you see, right?
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While I can see how this would be relevant in some cases, it simply isn't true in the majority of cases that I myself have seen.
There is a case of this I do know of. For example, a man I know is a rather obvious homophobe. He is also exceptionally sexist, believing that all women should be barefoot, pregnant, and chained to the stove (these are basically his exact words). He is an extreme case, though, and ought not be considered the rule.
A great many homophobes I have encountered over the years have been this way either due to not really understanding homosexuality, or simply disliking it. Many of them have cited religious reasons, and yet, some homophobes I've seen treat their significant others quite well. This is not often true, this saying. In some cases, yes. But the majority, I'll have to say it is against. I have not encountered many of this subsection of homophobia. Most are driven by other reasons, from what I have seen.
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Indeed, I have my reasons for being a homophobe but not for that saying. For example, as a Chinese, I find the couples imbalanced (two yangs or two yins). As the daughter of a biologist, I know that chances of promiscuity are high in those couples.(The history of AIDS in the gay community.)
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I think, you have either misunderstood the concept of "homophobia" (hating homos, or, as a pre-stage, the aversion or dislike of homos) or the reasons of those people to be homophobes (citing religious reasons, but actually not keen on being loved by a gay)
Am I right? Otherwise correct me^^
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Oh, no. I fully understand the concept of it. I just haven't found many who hate or dislike homosexuals based upon the concept of fearing that they would be treated as they treat women, that's all. I have encountered people who hate, dislike, or otherwise find themselves discontent with homosexuals. I do understand the concept, my friend. Simply haven't met many with this particular reason. Most I've met are single, highly religious, or simply influenced by the views of society.
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Then you don't understand humans: They lie :-p
They give reasons, that they might actually believe to be their true reasons, but aren't.
There's a reason to feel discontent or hate or dislike, and if it's not about "God said so and I follow blindly" it's usually about what gays do with each other, which is just the same as men and women do.
You see, they are afraid to be treated by them, as they treat their women
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Dude, it seems to me that you're just as close-minded as homophobes based on your conversation with this person, who is clearly stating facts of his/her experiences with homophobes.
You have (as far as I know) not stated that you have met a homophobe, and that your opinion is the sole truth.
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"Dude", it seems to me that you are allowed to have any opinion you like, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody's feelings. He may think of it as facts, I don't, and that's what I said. He may continue the argument or not, but I don't think he needs you to pick his fights
And why would I say, my opinion is the sole truth? Or that this polemic catchphrase was the absolute truth (which would be a contradictio in adiecto, a polemic never is the whole truth, it's a polemic. A polemic is a polemic is a polemic
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I was treated by homophobes poorly, yes, because homophobes can't understand why a hetero does accept homos as fellows. That you have to think of abuse, when someone says something about "how you treat women", tells much about you, but it doesn't say anything about me. But as you said, trolls have their reasons - what's yours?
(too bad you blocked, but that's how trolls do, right?)
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While you go around spouting why people miss the point you are trying to get accross, you have also missed my point.
Your comment evaded the sole purpose of my comment.
I'm sorry since its likely a family member was a homophobe and treated you poorly, or perhaps your father was abusive towards women. Even trolls have an underlying reason for why they do what they do.
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OMG!!! You're so right!!!
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Homophobia: Fear of being viewed sexually and forced to agree by a member of the same sex and being obligated to accept because it's prejudice to be utterly disgusted.
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yes, because being viewed sexually/raped by someone of the opposite gender is any better and not at all disgusting.
seriously wtf. nobody is ever forcing you to accept sexual contact from any person. just say no, be they male or female. rape, molestation and sexual abuse is a crime, and crime applies to all genders.
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I saw a picture on the facebook that expounded on this beautifully:
"Homophobia: The fear that gay men might treat you the way you treat women, and that a lesbian will treat your woman better than you do".
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Maybe it does, but it also destroys some interpretations of this, like:
"The fear that gay men might love/adore/respect you the way that you love/adore/respect women"
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I doubt that someone was getting the adoration message out of something that was pointing out any potential sexism. > >
That said, it's an interesting take on homophobia. ('-' )
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i dont believe there is such thing as natural fear of gays its more of hate or feel uncomfortable around them because its totally gay XD
but homophobia is an excuse to be against homosexuality
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Homophobia means to be against homosexuality
And it's not natural, it's learned behaviour, for others, whole cultures or even animals, aren't homophobic.
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exactly my point, i assume it means fear because of the phobia part
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