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NOTE: I'm perfectly aware that I skipped Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.Reason for this is that Bioware has absolutely no interest in creating a sequel, and if I'm correct, they're having several legal issues regarding this "Dark Brotherhood" being too similar to "The Dark Legion" from the comics.
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This is the last Sonic-related thing I'll probably upload. (Besides self-made Sonic related custom figure pictures)
Thing is... the Sonic fanbase has kinda become a little too volatile these past few years.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the fanbase, as there are some impressive talents throughout it, and some people with neat ideas!
Just be respectful and be free to share your ideas.
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Anyway, this is my new timeline theory.
I like what I'm seeing of Sonic 4 Episode II, however, it seems that SEGA wants to kill the past classic canon through Sonic 4, and I don't really like that.
So I pondered, and I pondered... the Sonic timeline is full of plotholes and loopholes, I was bound to find something to counterattack SEGA's "canon simplification" movement.
And I came up with it.
Basically, the Timline is divided (so far) in 3.
-The Classic Timeline
-The Modern Timeline (which follows up from the classic)
-And the... em... Classic Reboot Timeline (which follows Classic Sonic after Sonic Generations, taking him back to the events of Sonic 1.
Howver... this time, Sonic did not manage to get a GOOD FUTURE for Little Planet, thus the events of Sonic 4 took place.
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I think Classic Sonic was snatched from his timeline at some point throughout Sonic 1 (wether at the beginning, or at the end pre-credits, since he's in Green Hill Zone), so naturally, he'd go back to it after Generations. Either transitioning to Sonic 2 or whatnot. Some events were probably altered before they began, sending them on a slightly different path this time.
As for wether Sonic, Tails, or Eggman remember things... Maybe some things, not everything. They probably remember enough to prevent some events from taking place.
This is my way of justifying SEGA not counting the Game Gear games in their "new timeline" today. Haven't really given it much thought lately.
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No, thank YOU!
I don't remember if I justified Metal Sonic's prescence in Sonic 4.2 due to the "classic reboot" now leading to a bad future, or if Eggman reactivated Generations' Metal Sonic. But I do think CD and Generations have a kind of bond which I believe explain why Metal Sonic is back.
Trust me, I used to have perfectly good explanations for everything, but it's been too long now. XD
But now it looks as if Classic Sonic going back to Sonic 2 after Generations makes sense too. (He does know how to spindash after all).
Oh, and there was this other theory, which I don't think I ever represented here, where in Generations, when they were both trapped in the white world at the end, both Eggmen came up with the idea of building the Death Egg Mk.II. But since they had to part ways to their respective timelines, they designed them differently (couldn't work on it together anymore) in Sonic The Fighters, and Sonic 4.2.
Oh well, maybe for version 3.1 someday.
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Funny, I had a similar theory running through my head as well.Β One of the problems I had when constructing a canonical timeline was finding a suitable placement for "Sonic 4".
We all know Metal Sonic makes his debut in CD, which establishes his rivalry with Sonic. This is fallowed by his appearances in "Sonic Triple Trouble", "Knuckles Chaotix", "Sonic Drift", "Sonic the Fighters", and a small cameo in SA1. But "Sonic 4" (which is stated to take place after S3&K) depicts Eggman recovering Metal Sonic shortly after his race with Sonic, and all the characters have their modern designs (which "Generations" established as being older versions of the characters). So where does that place Metal Sonic's other appearances?
With the game taking place in a seperate timeline, this makes a whole lot more sense. Especially with the Metal Sonic boss fight in "Generations".
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Ah, you seem to be quite knowledgeable about the Sonic universe! Could I please get your opinion on a theory of mine about Eggman? fav.me/d5m2b3k
Thanks!
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Great timeline! Although I am a bit iffy about the inclusion of spin-off games like Spinball and Drift (and don't get me started on Bean Machine; That's a different Robotnik), it's amazing how you managed to include every game in the series, and even explained why Bad Future Stardust Speedway appeared in Sonic Generations and Sonic 4! (Very Zelda-esque of you. ;D) I tip my hat to you, good sir.
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Thanks!
Well, Spinball and Mean Bean machine were included for fun... but also because I got a few complaints that I "SHOULD" include them (even if the obvious difference in universes are obvious) BUT.... I included them with a white arrow as if saying that IF they could be included in the timeline, that's where I'd reckon they'd be placed.
Sonic Drift however is a lot easier to fit, but that's just me.
Wonder if I should make a Version 4.0 where there is no timeline split a'la Zelda.
BTW, kind of off topic-ish, but I heard Takashi Iizuka (SEGA's CEO) said that the classic games all take place in an "alternate universe".
...Kinda weird if you ask me, don't you think?
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Okay, I can understand that. And I'd love to see you do that new timeline.
As for the "alternate universe" bit, I would understand if he meant "alternate timeline." However, I can't say for certain. Maybe he did say what he meant. I don't know.
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Uhm...There was no canon after Sonic & Knuckles. There were no main series games between S&K and Sonic Adventure. Sega simply saw an opportunity to fill in a gap.
Interesting theory though, I'll give you that.
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Not to mention that Knuckles' opening dialogue in Sonic Adventure seemingly retconned any games that involved Knuckles leaving Angel Island prior to Adventure (e.g. Triple Trouble, Chaotix, etc). :\
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Not bad...I really hope someday we get a historia for sonic like the one legend of zelda got. I would absolutely love that as a long time sonic fan
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I'm an idiot. Perfect Chaos destroyed Station Square in Sonic Adventure, not Sonic Heroes.
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Good theory, but I must add criticism.
First off, Sonic didn't have the Spin Dash is Sonic 1, but it's confirmed to be the absolute first game in the series, and he didn't know Tails in it.
Second off, Station Square was destroyed by Perfect Chaos in Sonic Generations, meaning that every other game with Station Square (except Generations) must take place before, like Sonic Pinball Party.
Third off, despite what it looks like, a few months actually take place between 2 and 3 (this isn't criticism, just a point that can open up new placements).
Lastly, they wanted Sonic 4 to link in with Sonic Heroes, meaning that Sonic CD's bad future and Sonic 4 have to be part of the main timeline.
Besides all that, it's still very thought out. Good job.
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well it's much less contrived than the Zelda timeline I'll give it that.
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But if Sonic CD now takes place before the Death Egg games and Sonic 2 GG, then why would Robotnik use clearly-inferior models of robot Sonics for those games instead of Metal Sonic?
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Did you hear about Sonic Before/After the Sequel? If that game is correct, than Sonic 1, 2, 3&K all happen between the space of a few days (considering day-night cycles in the games), to a few weeks depending on when Knuckles encounters EggRobo.
It also eliminates the possibility of Sonic CD happening between Sonic 1 and 2, since Sonic is transported straight from Green Hill to the first zone of SBTS.Β
Sonic After the Sequel, interestingly, features a prototype Mecha Sonic.
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Simple: Metal Sonic took ONE HIT against a wall, to be defeated in Sonic CD. Robotnik clearly wanted to build a (perhaps slower but) more resistant version of Metal Sonic. Hence why Silver Sonic was built (or Mecha Sonic MK1 if you prefer)
Granted, time still proved Metal Sonic was still the better robot.
By Sonic Triple Trouble, Robotnik already found a way to not only repair Metal Sonic, but increase his defense permanently.
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In other words, Robotnik just made the Mecha Sonic line to stall for time while he fixed Metal. I still prefer the concept of the Mecha Sonics leading up to Metal Sonic's creation by have each new one be more and more dangerous than the last.
By that preference, I still favor keeping Sonic CD as being post-3&K. However, I do like your idea of splitting off Sonic 4 from there as a separate timeline.
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Yeah, you could say that!
I remember also supporting the idea of Metal being the last of the Mecha series... until I tried to unite all games under a single canon, and started following several clues.
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Sonic CD (Metal Sonic, took one blow and was destroyed)
Sonic 2 Master System (Beta of Silver Sonic was created)
Sonic 2 Genesis (Silver Sonic perfected)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Mecha Sonic built from Silver Sonic data, shattered to dust permanently by Knuckles)
Sonic Triple Trouble (Metal Sonic is back, more resistant than before)
Sonic Pocket Adventure (Silver Sonic is re-activated, possibly because Metal is still too damaged)
Sonic Adventure (Metal Sonic and Silver Sonic both in statis tubes undergoing repairs most likely)
Sonic Heroes (Metal Sonic's complete rebellion against Eggman)
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Granted, now that I think of it, Metal Sonic could have still been created after the Mechas, built for more speed, and later upgraded either way. So it's just a matter of preference really.
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Forgot the fact that Metal Sonic was probably missing in Sonic Pocket Adventure due to his transformation and defeat from Knuckles Chaotix.
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