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Published: 2015-06-13 07:55:12 +0000 UTC; Views: 24570; Favourites: 612; Downloads: 10
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Men have problems. Women have problems. Men and women are people. People should matter equally.Now why is that so hard to understand? Feminists are quick to counter any mention of men's issues with "b-but male privilege!" As if that diminishes the severity of men's issues, including:
-high suicide rates
-low access to domestic violence shelters
-increasing numbers of high school and university dropouts
-prostate cancer
-overwhelming majority of the homeless population
-longer prison sentences
-anti-male bias in family and divorce courts
-huge majority of workplace deaths
-majority of veterans suffering from PTSD
-and much, much more.
Does "male privilege" make those problems go away? Do they not matter just because women have problems, too, which feminists deem automatically worse because 'patriarchy'? Screaming "privilege" doesn't help the veteran about to kill himself because the family courts took his children from him. Screaming "privilege" just lets feminists get away with ignoring him.
And even if privilege did negate people's problems, most of the feminists screaming 'privilege' should just shut up because they're white and have "white privilege" and black people have it worse.
Yes, I know, "intersectionality," "power politics," "oppression of women," other buzzwords yada yada yada. But feminists crashing conferences about the male suicide epidemic, shutting down shelters for men, and throwing a hissy fit when a Men and Boys focus team is proposed to address dropout rates isn't helping anyone at all.
And no, you can't just blame it on the "patriarchy."
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My question: why do antisjws think that feminists are out 2 get em? like are yall actually that damn sad
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Oh, I dunno, how 'bout the fact that they'll silence any and all opposition, demonize everyone who just so happens to disagree with them (and in some extreme cases even terrorize them), and get the public eye, the media, and even the fucking UN to side with them, while facing little to no consequences for the above.
But of course, you'll just deny it to maintain your worldview built with a foundation of pretty lies.
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1. feminists aren't terrorists idk where u got this
2. demonising men, whitys, cissies and hetties dont get them killed
3. depends on what standpoint yr at, buddy. if somethings offensive or discriminatory, society will call it out??? like name one tumblr feminist who is a bad feminist??
4. lol i hate men why are yall like this
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"1. feminists aren't terrorists idk where u got this"
Guess you didn't read the "some extreme cases" bit.
"demonising men, whitys, cissies and hetties dont get them killed"
Actually, it has. Consider "Battered Woman Syndrome", which was used to justify a woman burning her husband to death, even though there was no actual evidence of her being abused by said husband. She even got awarded a metal of "bravery" for it on fucking Oprah of all shows.
Besides, it prevents them from having their voices heard, gets them attacked in public, has them constantly ridiculed and put down, getting fired from their jobs, and having their lives completely ruined in general. Outright murder's being the norm is the very next step.
"depends on what standpoint yr at, buddy. if somethings offensive or discriminatory, society will call it out???"
Oh yeah, like that one murder I just mentioned. Or the others things, for that matter.
"like name one tumblr feminist who is a bad feminist??"
All of 'em, and so are you.
"4. lol i hate men why are yall like this"
I hate feminists. Why are you all like this?
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Women who want women to have rights are not terrorists though ? You're a mcfucking bitch
'Demonising' (AKA: making white people, men and cishets aware of their history) white male cishets is not dangerous to you as a white person, male or cishet. Imagine trying to use Oprah as a way to block out my opinion you cisboy
Oh no! The SJW Feminists called me out on my mcfucking bigotry? Lmao the horror anti-SJWs must go thru.
Nice try sweaty but I'm not a tumblr feminist uwu<3 what about the feminists who care for men and every gender? Y'all forgetting em?
You hate a group of people just cus yall aint agree with women. Imagine being sexist LOL cant relate
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"Women who want women to have rights are not terrorists though ?"
Wanting women to have rights isn't and never was the issue. Blaming all men for it, demonizing them, and ruining their lives is the issue here.
"You're a mcfucking bitch"
And you're unimaginative.
"'Demonising' (AKA: making white people, men and cishets aware of their history)"
That's not demonizing, and again isn't the issue here.
"white male cishets is not dangerous to you as a white person, male or cishet."
Actually, it is. It's why I don't date women.
"Imagine trying to use Oprah as a way to block out my opinion you cisboy"
I'm not blocking out your opinion, I was just pointing out an example for my case. I guess pointing out examples and generally backing yourself up is such a foreign concept to you that you don't understand it when you see it.
"Oh no! The SJW Feminists called me out on my mcfucking bigotry?
Lmao the horror anti-SJWs must go thru."
I love how you're implying I have a victim complex and yet you consider someone disagreeing with you to be bigotry.
"Nice try sweaty but I'm not a tumblr feminist uwu<3"
Doesn't matter, you're still a bad feminist.
"what about the feminists who care for men and every gender? Y'all forgetting em?"
You can't forget something that doesn't exist. And no, feminists just claiming they care for men's rights doesn't mean they do. If they did, they wouldn't be feminists.
"You hate a group of people just cus yall aint agree with women."
Is that a bit of projection I see there? Why yes it is!
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uwu <3 men are 'demonized' bc y'all have fucking abused us for centuries and y'all are so fucking dumb you can't tell 'women warning girls of creepy men who will sexually harrass them' for 'demonizing' uwuwuwuw <3
When POC say 'I'm a victim of racism', a woman 'I'm a victim of sexism', a trans person 'I'm a victim of transphobia', and LGBT+ person 'I'm a victim of some form of anti-LGBT hatecrimes' etc etc: there is a high fuckin chance they dont wanna be greeted with 'Stop demonizing us!!' You know that gif that says 'What have you got against us whites?' and the guy just looks at him deadly? Thats how we feel when we say 'I dont want to be friends w/someone who makes me feel unsafe for my religion, race, gender (identity), sexuality or ability' (granted if they're brave enough to say that w/o someone slitting their throats) we/they are not looking to demonise you for your identity. I'm cis and if a trans person told me 'Can you step away from me for a while?' I will do that because I'm not a pissbaby who will scream 'CISPHOBIA!!' like yourself.
'I love how you're implying I have a victim complex and yet you consider someone disagreeing with you to be bigotry.'
if u believe cisphobia, heterophobia etc exists, you have a wild victim complex budee
Nowhere did I say I was a feminist and if i did i was joking. Bud, I'm not a feminist & I dont identify as one. Not everyone who has worldviews different to yours is a feminist
The difference between disliking men and hating feminists is that feminism isnt a gender lmao who are you????
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"uwu <3 men are 'demonized' bc y'all have fucking abused us for centuries"
Not disproportionately. Just because women aren't often direct doesn't mean they aren't just as abusive as men.
"y'all are so fucking dumb you can't tell 'women warning girls of creepy men who will sexually harrass them' for 'demonizing' uwuwuwuw <3"
Yeah, 'cause it isn't demonizing to say that black people will steal from you. (sarcasm)
"When POC say 'I'm a victim of racism', a woman 'I'm a victim of sexism', a trans person 'I'm a victim of transphobia', and LGBT+ person 'I'm a victim of some form of anti-LGBT hatecrimes' etc etc: there is a high fuckin chance they dont wanna be greeted with 'Stop demonizing us!!' You know that gif that says 'What have you got against us whites?' and the guy just looks at him deadly? Thats how we feel when we say 'I dont want to be friends w/someone who makes me feel unsafe for my religion, race, gender (identity), sexuality or ability' (granted if they're brave enough to say that w/o someone slitting their throats) we/they are not looking to demonise you for your identity. I'm cis and if a trans person told me 'Can you step away from me for a while?' I will do that because I'm not a pissbaby who will scream 'CISPHOBIA!!' like yourself."
The only problem with your argument is the fact that men aren't victimizing women disproportionately. There's a common misconception that it happens which causes many women to fear men, but belief doesn't make something true. Just because you're scared of men victimizing you because you belief they will doesn't mean they will.
Men are raped as much as women are. Men suffer just as much domestic violence as women do. Men are the victims of more violence than women.
Looking at the facts, women don't have cause to fear men, but men certainly have cause to fear women. After all, a woman can ruin a man's life with but a word, can physically hurt him and the police arrest him due to the Duluth model, can take half of his accumulated wealth, prevent him from seeing his children, get regular payments from him, and if he can't keep said payments up, he gets sent to jail.
This is why I don't date women, even though I could. It's just way too risky for me. You, on the other hand, don't have any more to fear from men than from women.
"if u believe cisphobia, heterophobia etc exists, you have a wild victim complex budee"
Never said that either of those exist, because I don't believe they do. It's really sad how you need to put words in my mouth to make a point.
"Nowhere did I say I was a feminist and if i did i was joking. Bud, I'm not a feminist & I dont identify as one. Not everyone who has worldviews different to yours is a feminist"
You certainly hold to the feminist narrative, which isn't all that different to being a feminist.
"The difference between disliking men and hating feminists is that feminism isnt a gender lmao who are you????"
Not sure what point you're making here, which is unsurprising.
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this is really embarrassing for yall & this is honestly been going on for too long and im just too tired to talk back to u so deadass bye lmao
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Translation: I've been proven wrong but I'm too cowardly to admit it, so I'll just leave.
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ive not been proven wrong youve not proven anything at all lmao rip tho
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I've refuted all of your points and counter-arguments, while you've failed to do so for mine. I'd say that's ample proof of my case.
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Damn Girl, You Got Pwned!
I'm not gonna mention the name of a certain sexist bitch that decided to shit in my neck of the woods on dA, because I'm better than that. However, I'm also not gonna delete the message, so anyone who's curious can easily scroll down to my comments to find them if they want.
Anyways, I'm quite baffled at the HUGE response to her. There's like, 9 pages of that stuff already, and I have a feeling it's only gonna grow. I mean, I can take care of any sexist myself just fine, but I'd like to give thanks to everyone else that jumped in. Nice to see such support, especially when we're in such an abysmal social climate like this.
Cheers!
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What does one of my journals have to do with this?
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Is Feminism Necessary? Or are men obsolete? The first question will obviously provoke several people's instincts to cry out "Misogyny!" against me. But what about this second question? Well, that's just a valid question worthy of discussion. But is it? Let's compare both questions, shall we?First, let's look at "Is Feminism necessary?". Feminism is a political movement, a set of beliefs, a worldview, a system. Anyone can be a feminist or agree with feminism, regardless of gender, age, ethnicity, etc. Necessary means "needed to be done, achieved, or present; essential". At its core, it's a purely neutral notion. Cleaning the house regularly or paying the bills are necessary but not very enjoyable. There can also be "necessary evils". Some things can be greatly appreciated and enjoyed but not necessary like films, music, games, and other such pleasures. So the question "Is Feminism necessary?" insinuates a notion that questions if this set of beliefs is essential for the welfare of society. Questioning any doctrine's relevance is a positive and healthy thing for anyone and any society to do, for it requires people to think about the world around them. If Feminism is indeed completely necessary for the welfare of society, then there is nothing to fear from such a question, as the answer would only lead to the confirmation of Feminism's necessity and reaffirm the belief, strengthening it. Now let's look at the question "Are men obsolete?" in comparison. Men is a demographic. It is a group of people who have been given a certain gender and they genuinely identify themselves with that gender. Both of these things are inborn traits of a person and aren't chosen. Obsolete means "no longer produced or used; out of date" or in the case of a trait of an organism "less developed than formerly or in a related species; rudimentary; vestigial". In the first definition, tools become obsolete when they're not longer used, either because they've met the end of their usefulness or something better comes along to replace it. In the second definition, an organism has an obsolete trait when its less developed when compared to similar traits. No matter what the definition, obsolete always carrys negative connotations. So the question "Are men obsolete?" insinuates that a group of people who didn't choose a trait they just so happen to have as tools who are no longer useful and/or said trait is less developed than a similar trait. Simply asking this question strips men of their humanity and then questions their worth. If someone asks this question, they already believe men to be subhuman, and if they believe men to be obsolete, then they also belief them to be nothing of worth as well. This question attacks a group of people who so happen to have a trait they did not choose to have. And yet when someone asks "Is Feminism necessary?" the typical response is one of complete disdain and the person is accused of hatred, while if someone asks "Are men obsolete" it is met with genuine curiosity and possible discussion. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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Men's issue #1:
Child Support Charges..
oooohhh the bane to ALL mankind.. no pun intended.
But no seriously, Feminism is cancer.
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I approve this message.
Just because I have female genitals that doesn't mean the opposite gender should cater to me, nor does their issues 'not matter'. For a group that says they support equality, it seems that now, sadly, it turned into superiority. Matter of fact why in the world are we fighting for feminism in first world countries? We have the right to vote, the same rights as men, protection of amendments, and laws protecting us from discrimination in workplaces on top of that. If anything we should help women in Islamic cultures, whom are stoned for getting raped.
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Feminists should be fighting for female rights, not attacking men for dumb reasons.
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yeah but some are against men for some reason
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I don't know why, but I imagine a little kid in a ball-like shape with hands over her ears and, well, screaming privilege.
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They do not. Believing so trivialises the problems women face.
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Guys, they literally stated on their page that they were a troll.
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Please tell me you're being ironic
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jesus people how have you not figured out this eevee fucker is a troll
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(Troll account, but anyways)
By that samd logic, women's issues don't matter because they trivialise men's.
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No it doesn't. I don't agree with the entirety of OP's beliefs, but acknowledging various amounts of intersectionality and privilege, so to speak, between the sexes and genders is not equivocal to trivializing problems that women face.
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Saying something matters does not trivialize how much other things matter
I daresay men have more issues than women
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the suicide rate for men is three to five times higher for men than it is for women. (source: www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.n… )
male victims of rape are severely underrepresented and not spoken for enough in our society. (source: aifs.gov.au/publications/male-… )
there are very few male-only shelters, most of which get shut down after a few years, and of those few male shelters, the Salvation Army owns many - and the Salvation Army is a homophobic organization, meaning any trans, gay, bi, or pan men can be denied shelter there. (source on male shelters getting shut down: nowtoronto.com/news/downtown-m… , sources on salvation army being homophobic: www.huffingtonpost.com/zinnia-… www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/priva… )
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Wow. I had no idea about the suicide thing.
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People can shout "Men shouldn't victimize themselves" For all they want, but that won't deny the fact that there are indeed males, young boys, who get sexually abused (more than often at school or at home). But some social media in 2016 seems to not acknowledge this..
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When men rape woman, its terrible and messed up
When woman rape men, its either sexy or funny
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Just as feminists like to point out that men get erections and ejaculate when they're getting raped they ignore the fact that women get wet and climax as well. So technically from that argument of theirs alone no one gets raped at all.
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And that they "should have enjoyed it"
Disgusting
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Exactly...
or when you see cartoons of ugly girls harassing men/boys, it's considered comedy
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But as soon as it's an ugly guy harassing girls...
gg society, gg
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Some great examples are
Tootie from Fairy Odd Parents
Wackie Jackie from Kick Buttowski
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I'll always love the scene where Timmy (Fairy Odd Parents) is dressed up as a girl and says to the green fairy "well you know what I think??" to which he responds "who cares what you think? You're a girl now!"
Damn "political correctness" has ruined everything
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They did that in Mulan, too! When she wasn't wearing her soldier clothes and instead wore a dress, everyone ignored her when she was warning the town about the surviving Huns she said, "why won't anyone listen to me?" and Mushu said, "look at you, you're a girl again"
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Oh yeah!
Good luck getting a 2016 rerelease for that film
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I know men have problems but so do women. I've grown and I can say I see the need for feminism but not like what you think. More like men and women need to overcome stigmas. But to be honest I've heard this so much that it's starting to make me think women don't have issues which is not true. When will there ever be people who list legitimate male AND female issues in one post?
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"I know men have problems but so do women."
As the saying goes: everything before the but is bullshit.
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I was actually diagnosed with Autism when I was 5 years old and I had a really hard time trying to make friends
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Same, I've had ADHD too since I was a toddler. It's so hard for me now, and I have depression and anxiety.
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me too! I unfortunately suffer from depression, generalized anxiety and ADD ^^'''
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