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Dragonells — Adoptable Price Guide: 2015 V.2

Published: 2015-09-01 09:28:14 +0000 UTC; Views: 2583; Favourites: 33; Downloads: 2
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This is for the more... common adoptables from the younger or newer people to deviantart.
Please remember this is my opinion and what I believe is fair!

So the first one is a dollmaker. very common and fun game.
However I see a lot of people who try and turn a profit. Myself in included I did once do that but I learned that's a very poor and cheap way to go about a respectable business with art. I feel that dollmaker designs aren't you're style at all. You've put 0% of effort or originality into it. But some people seem to expect at least 20
I also feel that trying to sell these designs is a form of art theft. Of course the original artist who made the game allowed or expected it, but to me earning a profit from something you have put no effort into and has none of your own work in it whatsoever is theft. So I'm not a huge fun.


The second one also bugs me. How do you expect to make profit from a design where you've just copied and pasted a picture overtop of a base? You cannot be serious?
I feel like that's not theft but close to it. It's certainly not your design at all. You may have put a very very minimal effort into overlapping the two images but I myself did that design in less than a minute.

Lastly is another common thing I see.
So you MAY put some effort into this, so what? 
You're taking a pre-existing design and just putting onto a base of a completely different species. So original!
I used Charmander and Pinkie Pie as an example. EXACT same colours, different species. To me that is 100% theft. Because you've taken somebody's original design and just altered the species.


Now I'm not here to yell at anyone, when I first got into art when I was a kid I did the exact same thing! So I KNOW a lot of the issues that come from it, but I assure you, you do not improve yourself or your art if you continue that path. 
I'm here to educate and set you on a better understanding of making designs for other people.
It's worth so much more if you practice your art everyday and do it that way.

Below I'll list some amazing people you can check out who has really made a shine at creating unique designs.
Hopefully from them you can learn and be inspired (not to steal) to have a crack at it this way.












These designs are NOT for free like my last lot was. I don't think they're worth anything so nobody gets them.
Look through my gallery for better designs for sale!


Dollmakers are by
bases are by:
 Free Lines - Wolf Cat Gryph Raptor Rodent
 Lineart (P2U)
 Adopt A Cub Base
Charmander belongs to (c) Pokemon
PinkiePie belongs to (c) MLP
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Comments: 18

Maphein [2018-05-02 14:46:38 +0000 UTC]

I love u

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HoodedWolf7 [2016-02-29 14:22:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for linking this to my doll-maker-made adopts. I guess I was really discouraged and ignorant to use the doll makers. You see, I originally have the design in mind but no skill to color it in, but I should have known better than to use other's art. I had deleted the adopts I made and now attempting to draw them by hand. Please don't take this as mockery because I am truly grateful of your opinion. 

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Dragonells In reply to HoodedWolf7 [2016-02-29 14:27:47 +0000 UTC]

it's no problem at all! I would have offered to elaborate and add more to hel out, but most people are quite rude and upset
It's fine to use dollmakers for adoptables or designs, I just don't believe they should be sold for any form of profit since they're already premade designs and ideas from somebody else's art, but good for you! 
I'm glad that you're going to try so hard!

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voloras [2015-10-25 23:39:33 +0000 UTC]

People may choose what they would like to do. Apparently, you people get bothered by this just because it is "easy" and it makes artists who do not use bases harder on them to do their daily adoptable and what not. But I don't think really anyone is going to care if they actually use a doll designer.

You have to understand this, some people cannot make superior adoptables and or designs, which makes it hard for them so they use doll design or whatever that website is. Yes, of course this is your opinion and you will respect mine, for I,  am respecting yours.

Half of the TLK characters have the same color, dark brown, light brown, etc. They don't really have much colors to catch the eye, it's just, plain. The same color as Kovu or simba possibly even scar. If you mean the adoptables don't have color to them and are worth nothing... //Stares at the TLK fan-made characters\\

Also, reading your description it said...

"I feel that dollmaker designs aren't you're style at all. You've put 0% of effort or originality into it. But some people seem to expect at least 20 "

Actually, for your info, many people only expect 2 or 3 points for them because they know that the design is not theirs.

This title also doesn't give me a clue of a guide on how to "precisely" make an adoptable worth the points the person is asking for.

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Dragonells In reply to voloras [2015-10-26 01:55:16 +0000 UTC]

thank you for your input, however it seems I am in fact along the right lines of showing how much people try and price their poorly made adoptables
Just because some people are better at it than others doesn't leave excuse for poorly made work with little effort, or just in fact plain stealing
but if that's what you support, go ahead, I'm here to educate and challenge creativity, not force opinions. 

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voloras In reply to Dragonells [2015-10-26 01:57:00 +0000 UTC]

"Not force opinions" uhm. I came here because you placed this on my friends 2 point adoptables. Yeah.. okay.

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Dragonells In reply to voloras [2015-10-26 22:00:55 +0000 UTC]

yes to educate. 

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voloras In reply to Dragonells [2015-10-26 23:14:46 +0000 UTC]

yeah sure

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Dragonells In reply to voloras [2015-10-27 00:09:04 +0000 UTC]

thank you for your interesting input all the same. 

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voloras In reply to Dragonells [2015-10-27 01:24:09 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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Cynderthedragon5768 [2015-09-15 23:48:42 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh thank you for mentioning me ;u;

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Dragonells In reply to Cynderthedragon5768 [2015-09-16 02:22:44 +0000 UTC]

no probs bobs

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JellyRaptorPotamus [2015-09-01 23:08:41 +0000 UTC]

The way I see it is if you use a game to get an idea/design down then REDRAW  it using you own skills is one thing, but I agree actually just screen shooting the game image and selling is a mock of what adopts are, and can make it harder for the artists that are actual drawing/basing adopts to sell they're designs

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Dragonells In reply to JellyRaptorPotamus [2015-09-01 23:22:01 +0000 UTC]

agreed

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StarFlightTheWolf [2015-09-01 20:25:52 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you completely. 
People can't just take a charater that belongs to a someone else and change its species and sell it. 
C'mon people really think they can profit from a picture? 
Seriously just give it away for free

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Dragonells In reply to StarFlightTheWolf [2015-09-01 20:36:57 +0000 UTC]

exactly

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oCrystalArt [2015-09-01 15:48:48 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you on these
Most doll makers actually say you cannot profit from them
Also its technically illegal to take copywrited character such as mlp and sell them
Also if you take a photograph and use it, unless its open domain thats also theft. 

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Dragonells In reply to oCrystalArt [2015-09-01 20:37:41 +0000 UTC]

mhm and I've noticed so many people making adoptables like those so hopefully this will knock some sense into people. 

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